Both are really great... I happen to own both, but the Flight Time is intuitive and easy to set straight away... the Future Factory require some time to get to know the layout. With two separate delays on series/parallel, mono or stereo, etc... it takes significantly more time to get to know the pedal... so considering putting the Flight Time back on the board...
I've been comparing the two myself back and forth in my own mono setup, and there are a couple things that don't come through in a video. The Flight Time being 12v has a more dynamic and higher headroom DRY sound, with a more clear and dynamic treble that also feeds into the delay giving it that treble sweetness and percussiveness that cut through more. And this is only at nominal gain (70), the Flight Time can boost the signal a lot beyond that. It's hard to give this up. The Future Factory dry sounds more compressed and missing top, though that can be calming in a way, probably better on a recording than playing in live situation. On the reverse, there is noticeably more noise with the FT-2Y and the repeats/modulation sound more natural and pleasant on the Future Factory. So the dilemma is better dry and dynamics, or better repeats with more features and lower noise...I'm struggling. I do wish the Future Factory had been 12v instead of 9v, and maybe the issue with dry headroom/output wouldn't exist.
Thank you. I am glad you like it. I record all my guitars and amps these days through loadboxes and into an IR of my own Marshall 412 cab. All drums and stuff I program using plugins. Superior Drummer, Native instruments… Cheers Simon
@@joshbabbitt9243 From what I've read, it's really not as great a choice for mono. It will work of course but you won't get many of the benefits. I looked elsewhere.
Incredible pedals, thank you very much for the comparison. I've been searching for an irreplacable delay for the Moog Grandmother, this just might be it. Just one thing - am I the only one who can hear the tempo diode on the Future Factory bleeding through a loud clicking noise every time you play? Or is it something else? Wondering if that's a specific unit fault or a general thing it does.
Forest Child Thank you. Great pedals. But a loud clicking noise? From the diode? Yes I think you are the only one hearing that? Because it is not there, sorry 😀 Are you sure you are not just hearing the second delay? The pedal has no noise or clicking sound at all. Cheers Simon
Around 9 minutes there’s a lot of those clipping noise when you hit hard....Too high input level cracking noise on first transients indeed, I can hear that too. All around alive and emotional but, please; how do you record these stereo delay signals out into a mono guitar amp? Best, Joe.
To be honest I don´t have a full pedalboard anymore. I only work in the studio, and if I need Multieffects for recording I use the AxeFx as insert. I still use a lot of pedals but only as stand alone units (including FTT). I still think FTT makes the best pedals and I recently did a demo of the New Delay that is awesome. I would highly recommend the Future Factory Delay - it sounds so good. Cheers Simon
Perfect Comparison! Cheers! So, in terms of simple mono repeats, which one sounds better in real life? If FF is same or better than the FT in that aspect, there is no reason for someone to buy the FT. With the term "better" I mean closer to TC2290 sound :)
Good question. Closer to the "holy grail" the 2290 :) well to me the thing about the 2290 (that I still have) is that the sound is so thich and pleasant to the ears. It blends with the mix and works with guitar for some reason. I have actually not spend that much time comparing them side by side but I will if I can finde the time. But back to your question: FF and FT are very close when it comes to the basic sound of the delay however I think the new FF has a little more top end or it maybe clearer sounding. It could be just me but I hear something. I think the question is if you want all the control of the FF. I know I do and I use it both stereo and mono. But again if you want the looper or the BPM analyzer or maybe an easier layout it might be the FT. I would personally always go with the FF. It is just that good. Cheers Simon
Thanks, that's very useful. In the video it does sound like the FF has a little more high end, in a good way. In Schnobel's comparison video between the FT and a rack unit TC2290, the latter had a crisper sound that I preferred, even though they were obviously close. I was looking more at the FT at first, but your video reassured me to jump on a local used deal for an FF.
Is that Nut on that Strat a Custom Roller Unit, or Fender's? And is available in a LEFTHANDER VERSION..? Thanks, for the Comparison on the 2 Delays. I'll probably end up with Both.
Tangentially - Is that an Elite Stratocaster? I notice the steel nut. Trevor Peres mentioned that Fender did away with the steel nut at some point. Sounds great. Very crisp.
Neil Wilson Hi Neil. In my opinion it´s not the difference. It has more to do with the high end in the pedals and the way the modulation works differently. I doubt that you would hear it in a mix though. You would notice the stereo effect of course but both delays can get very close in sound. Different features like the tremolo effect and the modulation might give it away. I love the wide stereo and two delay lines so I use the FF myself. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thanks Simon. I agree. I'm not sure the phase on / off does that much anyways, and definitely more about the filters and modulation characteristics. Nice videos thanks for sharing...
Amazing review Simon! Can I ask you something? I'm using FF-1Y and AS-1R, and wanna make it stereo. As I have Victory V4 Kraken Amp pedal, so I'm gonna place my delay/reverb after the amp pedal and go to mixer directly with Walrus Audio Canvas Stereo. In this Situation, should I adjust my Free the Tone pedal's input level switch to "line level"? By the way, I'm gonna connect this pedals with XLR-TS cable(Kraken Cab sim -> FF-1Y) and TS cables(FF-1Y -> AS-1R -> Canvas). I'm not sure this is a right way :( could you give me some advice for this?
THIS is how you do a delay pedal (s) video! Amazing!!!
@@patz-z6d Thanks man 🙏
Both are really great... I happen to own both, but the Flight Time is intuitive and easy to set straight away... the Future Factory require some time to get to know the layout. With two separate delays on series/parallel, mono or stereo, etc... it takes significantly more time to get to know the pedal... so considering putting the Flight Time back on the board...
I've been comparing the two myself back and forth in my own mono setup, and there are a couple things that don't come through in a video. The Flight Time being 12v has a more dynamic and higher headroom DRY sound, with a more clear and dynamic treble that also feeds into the delay giving it that treble sweetness and percussiveness that cut through more. And this is only at nominal gain (70), the Flight Time can boost the signal a lot beyond that. It's hard to give this up. The Future Factory dry sounds more compressed and missing top, though that can be calming in a way, probably better on a recording than playing in live situation.
On the reverse, there is noticeably more noise with the FT-2Y and the repeats/modulation sound more natural and pleasant on the Future Factory. So the dilemma is better dry and dynamics, or better repeats with more features and lower noise...I'm struggling. I do wish the Future Factory had been 12v instead of 9v, and maybe the issue with dry headroom/output wouldn't exist.
Thank you Simon...You have just made up my mind. Which one to purchase ( The Future Factory )..
Awesome. So glad you can use the video. Thank you. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Yeah! I already own the ( Ambi Space Digital Reverb ) Cannot wait to combine the two together...Thanks again!
Great Job Man 🎸🎸🎸
Killer machines but also the clean sound of your Strat is outstanding!
Vigilius60 Thank you very much :)
Thanks for the awesome demo Simon! Sounds ace and and well done all together! How do you record your vids both sound & instruments?
Thank you. I am glad you like it. I record all my guitars and amps these days through loadboxes and into an IR of my own Marshall 412 cab.
All drums and stuff I program using plugins. Superior Drummer, Native instruments…
Cheers Simon
Yep, can totally hear the top-end differences on my end.
Flight Time sounds warm/vintage in comparison.
With all the EQ options of the Future I doubt it can’t yield all the same warmth (more so with the Soft Clip. Section, presumably analog).
Should not have watched this video. Now it’s on its way. How to explain this to the wife 🤷🏻♂️😂🤙🏻
I feel you man , I'm in constant trouble . 🤣
great video, thank you
Piotr Trypus Thanks :)
Hey Simon, curious if the Future Factory is viable if I'm only running MONO. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. Great video as always man!
Same here, would really, really love to know also!
@@joshbabbitt9243 From what I've read, it's really not as great a choice for mono. It will work of course but you won't get many of the benefits. I looked elsewhere.
Future factory has hi and low pass filtering also
Always wanted something from f.t.t & think the future factory is it.
Thouroughly recommend the korg sdd3000, its my secret weapon 🤫
Hi Simon, if one has a mono one amp rig. Is the future factory still a good choice? Or go with the mono? Thank you. Kev
I use mine in stereo and mono. I just switch it to Series mode when in mono. Cheers Simon
Incredible pedals, thank you very much for the comparison. I've been searching for an irreplacable delay for the Moog Grandmother, this just might be it. Just one thing - am I the only one who can hear the tempo diode on the Future Factory bleeding through a loud clicking noise every time you play? Or is it something else? Wondering if that's a specific unit fault or a general thing it does.
Forest Child Thank you. Great pedals. But a loud clicking noise? From the diode? Yes I think you are the only one hearing that? Because it is not there, sorry 😀
Are you sure you are not just hearing the second delay?
The pedal has no noise or clicking sound at all.
Cheers Simon
Okay, no problem then. One more question, does the FF support tone/loop latching?
Forest Child Only Flight Time has the loop function. Cheers Simon
Around 9 minutes there’s a lot of those clipping noise when you hit hard....Too high input level cracking noise on first transients indeed, I can hear that too. All around alive and emotional but, please; how do you record these stereo delay signals out into a mono guitar amp? Best, Joe.
@@JoeValenti1968 The FF has a Soft Clipping section with 2 mini knobs and can be bypassed.
are you still using the ambi space and future factory on your pedal board?
To be honest I don´t have a full pedalboard anymore. I only work in the studio, and if I need
Multieffects for recording I use the AxeFx as insert. I still use a lot of pedals but only as stand alone units (including FTT). I still think FTT makes the best pedals and I recently did a demo of the New Delay that is awesome. I would highly recommend the Future Factory Delay - it sounds so good. Cheers Simon
Amazing intro
Perfect Comparison! Cheers! So, in terms of simple mono repeats, which one sounds better in real life? If FF is same or better than the FT in that aspect, there is no reason for someone to buy the FT. With the term "better" I mean closer to TC2290 sound :)
Good question. Closer to the "holy grail" the 2290 :) well to me the thing about the 2290 (that I still have) is that the sound is so thich and pleasant to the ears. It blends with the mix and works with guitar for some reason. I have actually not spend that much time comparing them side by side but I will if I can finde the time.
But back to your question: FF and FT are very close when it comes to the basic sound of the delay however I think the new FF has a little more top end or it maybe clearer sounding. It could be just me but I hear something.
I think the question is if you want all the control of the FF. I know I do and I use it both stereo and mono. But again if you want the looper or the BPM analyzer or maybe an easier layout it might be the FT.
I would personally always go with the FF. It is just that good. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thanks for the answer Simon! I will go for the FF as well! Cheers!
@@Iliaspap80 You are very welcome :)
Thanks, that's very useful. In the video it does sound like the FF has a little more high end, in a good way. In Schnobel's comparison video between the FT and a rack unit TC2290, the latter had a crisper sound that I preferred, even though they were obviously close. I was looking more at the FT at first, but your video reassured me to jump on a local used deal for an FF.
Is that Nut on that Strat a Custom Roller Unit, or Fender's? And is available in a LEFTHANDER VERSION..? Thanks, for the Comparison on the 2 Delays. I'll probably end up with Both.
Hi. Fender made the guitar like this with a roller nut back in 1990 - It also had Lace Sensor pickups like the Clapton Strat. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Yeah I noticed the very Nice Tone of the Pickups. Thanks!!
Thank you upload
Flight time modulation sounds better (smoother) but the future factory with dual delays is awesome
Tangentially - Is that an Elite Stratocaster? I notice the steel nut. Trevor Peres mentioned that Fender did away with the steel nut at some point. Sounds great. Very crisp.
Abyssaeon it is a Strat plus from 1990. Very similar to the early Clapton signature. It had Lace Sensor Pickups originally. Cheers Simon
Looks like the Flight time has the delay phase on - not sure if that is on the Future Factory, which might be some of the difference in Dalys sound
Neil Wilson Hi Neil. In my opinion it´s not the difference. It has more to do with the high end in the pedals and the way the modulation works differently. I doubt that you would hear it in a mix though. You would notice the stereo effect of course but both delays can get very close in sound. Different features like the tremolo effect and the modulation might give it away. I love the wide stereo and two delay lines so I use the FF myself. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thanks Simon. I agree. I'm not sure the phase on / off does that much anyways, and definitely more about the filters and modulation characteristics. Nice videos thanks for sharing...
Neil Wilson Thank you :)
When you go to series mode with only one delay is there any stereo spread on the future factory?
In series mode the delay goes to both L/R. You can add a bit of “spread” using the modulation. Cheers Simon
Amazing review Simon! Can I ask you something? I'm using FF-1Y and AS-1R, and wanna make it stereo. As I have Victory V4 Kraken Amp pedal, so I'm gonna place my delay/reverb after the amp pedal and go to mixer directly with Walrus Audio Canvas Stereo. In this Situation, should I adjust my Free the Tone pedal's input level switch to "line level"? By the way, I'm gonna connect this pedals with XLR-TS cable(Kraken Cab sim -> FF-1Y) and TS cables(FF-1Y -> AS-1R -> Canvas). I'm not sure this is a right way :( could you give me some advice for this?
Is it Mono? I thought the FT-Y2 had a TRS input and stereo outs?
Flight time is mono, future Factory is stereo 😊 cheers Simon
FT sounds good, but no sense limitting yourself to mono...especially with delays...
Have you tried the Eventide Rose? If so how does it compare to the free the tone pedals?
John Cruz Hi John
Sorry no I haven’t so I can’t say anything about that. Eventide pedals are great form my experience. Cheers Simon
Simon Gotthelf Gear Demos can the FF get tape echo tones?
John Cruz Not real tape echo, close with modulation and darker delays but only a real tape sounds like tape echo :)