This is my style of build-making. I definitely min-max, but I like to do it following a theme. I also like to roleplay little stories for all my characters. Makes them a bit more fun. I am happy that your enjoy it. Thank you for your comment and kind words.
An Arc/Fth build has always been my favorite build in ER, and prophet my favorite starting class. Super versatile caster with tons of spell power while not giving up much melee damage in return. The DC seal is just too good. Its the perfect build in my eyes. I usually build it with less mind and more endurance and faith.
We can definitely take points from Mind and put them in Endurance. As for Faith, it's pretty min-maxed already. More points there won't really increase our incantations damage by much. Unless you were looking to meet the requirements of a specific incantations, I would keep Faith at 30. Thank you for comment.
@FrownyGaming yeah, I agree that 30fth is all you need for damage. I just like to switch spell loadouts a lot and I enjoy some of the higher requirement spells.
I'm always happy to see another build video from you. I used to really struggle with int/faith and I was sure it couldn't work. Then, I saw your build video for int/faith and it is my favorite build out of all the ones I have. Like you said in that video, it really does have an answer for everything.
I think that this is a very good build to return to Elden Ring. It can come online very early game, it provides good damage, and the extra Discovery from Arcane really helps drops. It should be very useful to you. Thank you for your comment.
I’m so glad this video is here. Was going through the DLC on an NG+1 character and accidentally made it to the final boss super quickly but it was way too hard. I decided to cut that run short and was gonna start a new one based around dragon communion but was unsure where to start from so this video helps a lot.
I appreciate your honesty at the end of the video-I recognize the good aspects of the build but I sometimes don’t get the “feel” of dragon communion spells the same way as sorceries. I might just be a stick in the mud. What I am doing now is playing through using certain weapons or concepts that feel fun. Like, I’m doing a dexterity build based on Casca from Berserk, using the Noble Slender Sword to capitalize on stance-breaking with the Square Off ash of war and playing without summons. I love the feel of being completely alone in the game except for a sword and shield and hitting a stance break has much more meaning. Another build I enjoyed earlier was a misbegotten build, starting with the iron cleaver and roars, charging headlong into battle. I never got far enough along to get the iron great sword, but it felt awesome to pressure enemies and run at full tilt into every combat and somehow come out of it okay. I often used every single flask and hit point of survivability to win the fight, but it was an accomplishment. That’s where I’m at for builds now.
Forming builds based on weapons and character concepts is extremely fun. Trying out different weapons, even if they may not be a perfect fit to your style, really develops your skills as a player and gives a ton of new ideas. Thank you for your comment.
In most pve cases I would agree with not using the named dragon incantations due to the fp efficiency, but I think if you ever do pvp/invasions or fight very agile bosses, having the better turning and tracking of the named variants will result in more damage due to being less likely to miss your target. (Plus some of them like Smarag's Glintstone Breath you can combo with terra magica on an int/fai build for a truckload of good tracking damage cone)
This is a fantastic point. I completely agree. If I were to go into PvP, I would switch out the basic breaths for their upgraded versions. Thank you for bringing this up and for your comment.
Smarag helped me dps spike the gargoyles. In ng+ im using the unamed breaths more. But in playthrough 1, named breaths helped do that little extra dmg against bosses.
I also confess, This is a great video. I absolutely love how in depth your guide goes to explain every little details and reasoning being your choices. It is greatly informative and I absolutely love it. At no point during the video were I left wondering why you did this or is there a particular reason for that spell or equipment. You gained an instant sub, I'll immediately be on my way to see if your other builds are of similar quality. (I just wonder what are the 3 most powerful ones)
I am very happy to hear about this. Your comment and kind words mean a lot to me. There are plenty of builds in the channel, and I try to make each one a little bit unique. I hope that you enjoy them. Thank you for your support.
Hope your doing well, Frowny. Another nice hybrid build. Good insight on the basic vs named dragon incantations. I mostly used the basic because of my low investment in arcane, so interesting to know they're still arguably the better choice even with a high investment.
Happy that you enjoyed the video. Now I am going to try to make a versatile pure Faith caster. I have a few notes that look promising. Thank you for your comment.
Great video! I just started my 3rd run of the game and wanted to try using the dragon incantations for the first time. You did a wonderful job showcasing and detailing all the nuances of the build. I appreciate the optimization while still trying to make the character make sense in theme. Subbed!
Another thing that pairs super well is a better bleed weapon. It can either be a normal weapon like a flameberge or godskinpeeler with Seppuku ash of war and the Occult variant. Or it can be a weapon like the Reduvia dagger that can shoot blood from range. Since you build super high Arcane since the Dragon seal has an S scaling it also makes the bleed effect stack super quickly on enemies. You can even have the White mask and the lord of bloods exultation talisman giving you a damage boost when bleed procs. Which you can proc yourself pre-fight with Seppuku.
Yes, you are correct. That being said, if we do this, the build gets turned into another general bleed build and loses all identity. I really don't like that. Every build I make goes for a theme and tries to stick to it. This helps fulfill the roleplay and it keeps the game fresh. Thank you for your comment.
Man, I do miss watching your ER vids. I haven't played the game for a while as I was playing Wo Long and Lies of P during those months, but your guides and build vids are still ASMR.
I love this build, in my case I tend to use less fp, I would modify this only if fromsoft fixes a bug with the erdsteel dagger, which strangely enough, if we put the blood/poison/occult affinity on that dagger, apparently doesn't take account the arcane scaling, if fromsoft fixes that, then the dagger would work perfectly with something like 40 dex, 30 fth, 45 arcane. With this is just enough for the scaling of the dragon communion seal and I would have basically something similar, but with a reduced cast time (obviously also a radagon icon), anyway, wonderful video and I honestly love this build
Wow this is my exact build but with a 5 point difference between mind < endurance. Also to squeeze out more damage, I use the highland axe on my belt instead of the shield. Great build and video, keep them coming!
I am not in a position to actively test this so, correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember that the Highland Axe does NOT affect Dragon Communion Incants. That said, even if it did, using the double Dragon Communion Seal set-up is better because the seal gives a 15% damage versus the Axe’s 10% increase. In any case, lowering Mind for more Endurance is a good change. It’s a sacrifice I would make as well if I needed for Equip Load. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Given the added endurance point, I guess there is an argument for the Highland Axe if the gentleman is also using roar based ashes of war on his main weapon. I don't know either if it works on dragon breaths, but assuming it does, it would be a minor sacrifice in damage for convenience of use.
I swear every build you make is like you're reading my mind on things I want to test (: You always save me so much time on testing, number crunching, and just things I would miss Love every upload m8 (:
I've been binging this guy's videos. He has quickly become my favorite Elden Ring RUclipsr. I haven't played Elden Ring yet. I'm looking for a build that is fun and challenging, but most of all, has high discovery. Maybe if I do something like this, but lean harder into arcane instead of faith, and use the ripple crescent halbrad, I could have a more fun experience.
It means a lot to me that you are watching multiple videos that I have created but I have to say: just play the game. You don't need a perfectly efficient build the first time around. Just explore the world and enjoy the first time experience. We only get one of those and Elden Ring is very special. Thank you for your comment and support.
I usually end up running a "Dragon Alignment Build" basically this but I can also use the few items describing Dragons, and the Dragon Scale Sword (Ice Lightning sword the dragonkin drops) ends up being my usual main weapon, with a Morning Star set to Occult/Bleed depending on the area's enemies... I end up using the Radagon Icon instead of the Roar Medallion simply to fire off spells a bit faster, and have the Gravelstone seal in my right hand... but beyond that, well most of our bits are the same...
@@FrownyGaming Eh, i just noted Dragon Spells did rediculous damage, for heavy FP cost, so I got a Dragon weapon then built my build around dragons, added the gravelstone seal to have Placi's ruin deal more damage, alongside it allowing the Lightning Spear to be stronger overall... honestly if I start a new character i will run your build most likely, just adding enough dex to wield the Dragonscale for a backup for the bleed immune enemies
Great video. I prefer Dragon Fire and Glintstone breath for use on horseback and named Ice and Rot Breath attacks for ambushing enemies. I enjoy the versatility you get by jumping down on enemies and casting the breath attack as you descend. For me it's all about the ambush attack with ice and rot.
This is a good strategy. You are able to keep a few options from both sides of the scale to better suit your situation. I like it. Thank you for your comment.
great vid and as much as i enjoy the dragon skills im not good enuff at the game to use long casting skills and survive lol, cheers for the entertainment
Hey Frowny nice to see a new unique build from you, what would you suggest using alongside the dragon com. seal in regular new game as there is only one to collect?
on my first playthrough and found that mimic tear helment, but was playing with a more int-focussed spellcaster build so that arcane bonus wasn't that useful for me. but might respec now and go for what you made here, maybe with a bit more focus on the incantation side. overall, great video and very well detailed!
I've been wanting to do a Faith type build but man watching your video has me thinking I could just go Arcane and use that dragon communion seal's arcane scaling instead of going heavy into faith and getting a seal that scales less. I'm not the biggest fan of the dragon spells (yet...mostly because I just don't know how to get them to work properly) but I'm thinking I could even use pyro, lightning, black flame, everything faith offers plus you have the status effect when it comes to melee that arcane can give. Damn this build looks fun.
I am glad that you enjoyed the video. As you mentioned, this build allows you to do many different things within the same stat spread. It is part of why it is so efficient. Thank you for your comment.
love the to see more arc faith build, using morning star too which is my personal favorite from the hammer class. still i think this build are better off with arcane weapon that deal split physical and elemental damage like rob, mohg spear, morgott sword, and eleonora poleblade since they wont receive nerfed physical weapon ar as harshly as their pure physical counterpart like bloody helice or blood poison and occult affinity weapons due the silver tear mask debuff
This is a good point and I believe that you are correct. Those Arcane weapons require a larger investment into their requirements, so I would lower Mind to fit them in. That said, I think that the Occult Morningstar is enough, debuff included, to supplement the build. It is mostly a caster, after all. Thank you for your comment.
Great build - actually all your builds are solid - you've got my sub:) One question though, is it possible to get more than 1 DC seal on one play through?
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and support. The only way to get more than one Dragon Communion Seal per playthrough is to have another player drop one for you. Otherwise, it is one per cycle.
You are correct. 28 FTH is enough. I just pushed it to 30 in order to reach the first Soft Cap for Faith-Scaling of the Seal. It gives a bit more damage and I believe that the 2 points are worth it.
@@FrownyGaming ah that makes sense. I missed that. I’m forcing myself to do a “region locked” progression of this build to enjoy the gradual build of power. Really enjoying this dragon cleric so far.
Hey, I really like your videos, the builds are great, I am not really into min-maxing and optimizing to the point that it isn't fun anymore, but I love when the builds have a soul, and fashion and coolness are a huge part of it! And your videos surely deliver on this! I really love this cleric-type build, but I am not super into the dragon incantations, as powerful as they can be... Could swapping out arcane for more Faith and adding intelligence work? In that case, I am thinking it could pair the morning star with the stormcaller ash of war, and then opt more for high faith incantation, and golden order incantation. Do you think is viable in NG and NG+ situations? Thanks
I am glad that you enjoyed the video. I always like to give my builds a little bit of lore and try to keep a theme going. It makes them a bit more fun. As for changing this build, take a look at this video ( ruclips.net/video/24wZm8fzgMc/видео.html ). It is a INT/FTH Caster that I think can serve as a base for what you are looking for. Thank you for your comment.
Hello👋! is it possible to use a dexterity weapon such us katana? Because they also has blood loss build up and they're fast wich cause blood loss faster and easier
Sure thing. It's possible. With this build, you will have to make some changes. The Uchi has 11 STR, 15 DEX requirements in Elden Ring so you are going to need to take one point from Strenght, and four from Mind, and put the all into Dexterity. You will have less FP, but it's not really a big deal. Hope this helps. Thank you for your comment.
ok so I'm doing the exact same bild atm.. firstly I didn't know that u cld use the heal spell on revnants.. what a nice trick.. I absolutely hate those things lol.. just a couple questions.. 1: y no buffs? 2: why no mohgs bleed talisman? 3: I understand it's more of a pure caster build but that weapon wld just be a little too under powered late game.. great vid man! 👌 and yes I 100% agree I didn't hv as much fun with this build either..its strong af but.. I dunno lacking in the action department
You mostly answered your own question here. The reason why I do not go further into the bleed strategy is because I wanted to focus on the spellcasting theme of the build. I wanted something that would use mostly incantations, and the just have a side weapon for weaker enemies. I think that it came out to be very strong, but I am not a huge fan of the Dragon Communion incantations, so it wasn't as fun for me. Thank you for your comment.
There are plenty of Elden Ring guides in the channel. It is a bit frustrating for me because my work is keeping me away from content creation at this time, but I will make great efforts for the DLC. Thank you for your comment.
It is definitely possible. Technically speaking, we can build something like this. As for its efficiency, I trust that it would provide a good build. All of the incantations that you mentioned can be used through the Dragon Communion Seal for good damage scaling. I would give it a shot and see how it performs. Let me know how it works for you. Thank you for your comment.
Arc/fth is how I got my platinum. I was playing fth/?? until the valiant gargoyles... then I looked into dragon communion seal and smarags Glintstone breath... I never looked back. No respec compared for my prophet. Only need 45 arc / 30 fth / 50 vig/ 38 mind in my experience.
45 ARC / 30 FTH / 38 MND is the skeleton of the build. After this, you can level Endurance, Vigor and weapon requirement Stats as you wish. I chose to keep Endurance low and go for more Arcane for additional melee scaling. Also, a little bit more Mind can't hurt. It is a very good build. I am glad that you found success with it. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming yeah, I kept end, str, and dex pretty low to pump vigor at 150. Plenty of decent weapon setups at lightweight. I tended towards shamshir and off hand med shield / sg curved sword at the end. But I occasionally would go back to short spear with blood tax... and the morning star for enemies weak to strike. That said, I still need to spend sometime with twin blades, reapers, whips, great swords, colossal weapons on another build to see how I like them. Didn't use them much on my 1st playthrough.
im trying to build something similar right now. but its mostly a pyromancer. thinking 168 60/45 arc/fai with DC seal and fire giant seal on the offhand for giantsflame buff. my spells would be like dragonclaw, dragonmaw/greyolls, take thee, oflame, catch flame, give me strength. for melee right now i just have a bleed longsword that i might switch to occult, with some multi-hit weapon art. talismans im thinking godfrey icon/stalwart horn charm, rad icon, flock's, and millicents. this is to buff damage, maximize effectiveness of hyperarmor, and get casting speed maxed out
This is an extremely aggressive build. Most of the resources going to offense and area of effect. I like it, it's a good idea. Let me know how it works out for you. Thank you for your comment.
I get picking lands between rune as the keepsake but if you pick stonesword key you can get dragon communion seal at the start of the game, then go khalid to kill greyoll, 5 hearts and a lot of level up immedietly Greyoll will take a lot of time to kill, unless you use bleed and theres a grace right behind her, so grab torrent run to that grace activate it, grab a bleed weapon go back kill greyoll no where near a "better option" keepsakes are keepsakes just saying it's an option if ya'll want to be able to get your dragon seal early, the dungeon is a pain but doable just take your time i ran through on another character had someone trade the seal to the prophet character, then had the prophet character run through two seals right before you've left the starting area Great build, ran a dragon samurai build round bleed and dragon spells on my first ever playthrough when the game came out had heard they'd been nerfed into the ground but this build has restored my faith (and arcane) in the build it's perfect having two catalysts to, as my ds3 main character was a two pyromancy flame pyromancer so can stick to what I know, again great video
@@FrownyGaming hey man I get the cleric theme but I just got put on to a cool weapon while playing that boosts roars Highland axe it seems weaker due to lack of bleed but it can be occult infused and to my knowledge stacks with roar medallion pushing greyolls and the roar Ash of war even further beyond sharing it because I wanted your thoughts on using it as a boost item and so people know about it you get it in stormviel castle it can be infused and has the same requirements as morningstar
The Highland Axe is a good weapon, but it is weaker than a double seal set-up. The Dragon Communion Seal gives us a 15% damage boost to all Dragon Communion Incantations. On the other hand, the Highland Axe gives a 10% boost to all Roar-Type abilities. So... Two seals is 1.15 x 1.15 = 1.3225 ~ 32% damage boost One seal and Highland Axe = 1.15 x 1.10 = 1.265 ~ 26% damage boost The biggest source of damage for this build are the Dragon Communion Incantations, so I am more interested in optimizing their damage. When I cast, I bring out the double seal to increase the incantation damage the the fullest.
I'm working on this build in a fresh playthrough as we speak. Quick question, what's the best way to get the dragon hearts needed to get all the incantations?
Well... having to defeat the dragons is definitely complicated at low level. What I did is beat Agheel over at Limgrave, seeing as how he is the easiest dragon fight. Afterwards I went to Dragonbarrow and sliced Greyoll's tail for 10 minutes with Poison and Bleed. That gets you 4 hearts which is enough for the basic breaths to a combination of breaths and maw/claw. This is enough to get you going while you naturally get more hearts by progressing through the game. Thank you for your comment.
Absolutely. You can get the Dragon Communion Seal and the basic Dragon Communion Incantation very early game. The same goes for the Bloody Slash Ash of War. I had a relatively comfortable early game while playing with this build. Thank you for your comment.
In this particularly build, since we are focusing on Dragon Communion Incantations, it is more efficient to run two Dragon Communion Seals (one in each hand). The reason is because the seals give a 15% boost to the Dragon Communion Incantations. Meanwhile, the Highland Axe offers only a 10% boost to roars. This is why I chose to not use it in this build. Thank you for your comment.
is there a reason you went to 30/60 for faith/arcane? the difference between 30/60 and 28/45 is only 17 incant scaling or a 6% increase in damage which really doesn't seem worth it for 17 levels worth of stats
There is. It is an accumulation of smaller reason that made me decide to heavily invest in this spread. First of all, I already have the rest of my Stats in order. I have 60 Vigor. I have what I need for weapon requirements and I have the perfect Endurance to stay right under 70%. As for Mind, I am very comfortable at this level for a full caster. As such, I decided to focus on the damage Stats. 30/60 FTH/ARC gives fantastic Incantation Scaling that scales well with all of the damage-boosting elements. Then, it also increases the physical damage of the Occult weapon, which helps to offset the 5% penalty from the Silver Tear Mask. At 60 ARC, I also hit the second Soft Cap for status application which, admittedly, is not much, but it adds up. You can certainly invest these extra levels in other damage stats in order to use different weapons. Or put them into Endurance to use heavier armor. But as far as this build goes? I knew that I needed very little investment for the gear that I wanted. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming thanks for the response, it does make a lot of sense with that context. I've been working on an arcane/faith build myself that uses an occult cross naginata with spectral lance. it's been pretty fun so far.
I have not finished the DLC so I have no idea what you are talking about. I am going through very slowly exploring as much as possible. At this time, I do not have an answer for you. Once I go through the full DLC and can test things, I will share results. Thank you for your comment.
I am afraid that Malenia has already been defeated in this game file. But it was very easy. I summoned the Mimic. I breathed ice. The Mimic breathed fire. Then we broke her stance with Maw. Both phases took about a minute. Dragon Incantations are awesome for this. Thank you for your comment.
With 80 DEX, 80 FTH and 45 ARC, you can use most weapons in the game at full power. For a Keen Nagakiba, you would get optimal DEX scaling as well as a fantastic boost from Electrify Armament from the 80 FTH. Thank you for your comment.
For this build, the Physick is not important. You can use whatever you want. Personally, I chose the one that gives you more damage negation and the one that gives you more HP. But you can also choose to use one of the elemental ones to boost your damage, or the one that negates FP spending for a few seconds. Definitely experiment to see what works best for your. Thank you for your comment.
For fun. I slapped down the Mimic and suddenly I had the whole battlefield filled with maws, claws and various types of breaths. It was hilarious. Thank you for your comment.
Venomous Claws is extremely fun. I recommend having a secondary weapon like a straight sword or dagger that you can put Poison Moth Flight on. This will allow you to remove the claw's poison from the enemies, dealing good damage, and allowing you to immediate re-apply it again. Let me know how it works for you. Thank you for your comment.
If you are interested, I created this build video: ruclips.net/video/8-wnEnOgqU0/видео.html During the second-to-last chapter, I explain the strategy that I mentioned. This build is more Strength oriented, but I believe that the theory will help you bring out good power from the Venomous Claws. Do not hesitate to check it out.
This is a great example of its utility. That said, as useful as that may be, I do not think it's worth an additional 50% FP cost. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming I think the named dragon breath attacks are better for some bosses. While the normal ones are way better when traversal a level fighting normal enemies, since you need to conserve FP until the next site of grace. You can also do the mixed physics flask to gain magic power and unlimited FP for a short time. Giving you atleast one free breath attack against a boss, and if it's free the extra 50% FP does not matter and getting a damage boost is nice. Also jumpin in the air while doing it can let you avoid damage and it looks badass.
Your comment interests me. What do you mean by “fashion, ego driven, bull”? Honestly, you can say a lot of things about my content, but “ego driven” got me puzzled.
I really like that your builds actually feel like a traditional rpg class and not just an amalgamation of the best stuff in the game.
This is my style of build-making. I definitely min-max, but I like to do it following a theme. I also like to roleplay little stories for all my characters. Makes them a bit more fun. I am happy that your enjoy it. Thank you for your comment and kind words.
i see dragon communion i click instantly
Sound logic. Thank you for the comment.
An Arc/Fth build has always been my favorite build in ER, and prophet my favorite starting class. Super versatile caster with tons of spell power while not giving up much melee damage in return. The DC seal is just too good. Its the perfect build in my eyes. I usually build it with less mind and more endurance and faith.
We can definitely take points from Mind and put them in Endurance. As for Faith, it's pretty min-maxed already. More points there won't really increase our incantations damage by much. Unless you were looking to meet the requirements of a specific incantations, I would keep Faith at 30. Thank you for comment.
@FrownyGaming yeah, I agree that 30fth is all you need for damage. I just like to switch spell loadouts a lot and I enjoy some of the higher requirement spells.
arcane faith/dragon builds are so damn stat heavy just like faith int hybrids, but God, do they hit hard.
amazing video and happy holidays!
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and kind words.
I'm always happy to see another build video from you. I used to really struggle with int/faith and I was sure it couldn't work. Then, I saw your build video for int/faith and it is my favorite build out of all the ones I have. Like you said in that video, it really does have an answer for everything.
I also like that build a lot. INT/FTH was extremely fun to make, so it makes me happy that you enjoyed it. Thank you for your comment.
Been thinking about hopping back in to Elden Ring. Will most likely use this build for that playthrough. Thanks Frowny! Great work as always!
I think that this is a very good build to return to Elden Ring. It can come online very early game, it provides good damage, and the extra Discovery from Arcane really helps drops. It should be very useful to you. Thank you for your comment.
I’m so glad this video is here. Was going through the DLC on an NG+1 character and accidentally made it to the final boss super quickly but it was way too hard. I decided to cut that run short and was gonna start a new one based around dragon communion but was unsure where to start from so this video helps a lot.
I am glad that you found the build useful. Thank you for your comment.
I appreciate your honesty at the end of the video-I recognize the good aspects of the build but I sometimes don’t get the “feel” of dragon communion spells the same way as sorceries. I might just be a stick in the mud.
What I am doing now is playing through using certain weapons or concepts that feel fun. Like, I’m doing a dexterity build based on Casca from Berserk, using the Noble Slender Sword to capitalize on stance-breaking with the Square Off ash of war and playing without summons. I love the feel of being completely alone in the game except for a sword and shield and hitting a stance break has much more meaning.
Another build I enjoyed earlier was a misbegotten build, starting with the iron cleaver and roars, charging headlong into battle. I never got far enough along to get the iron great sword, but it felt awesome to pressure enemies and run at full tilt into every combat and somehow come out of it okay. I often used every single flask and hit point of survivability to win the fight, but it was an accomplishment. That’s where I’m at for builds now.
Forming builds based on weapons and character concepts is extremely fun. Trying out different weapons, even if they may not be a perfect fit to your style, really develops your skills as a player and gives a ton of new ideas. Thank you for your comment.
The breakdown of the different kinds of dragon breath is incredible, thanks for sharing 👍
I am glad that you found it useful. Thank you for your comment.
In most pve cases I would agree with not using the named dragon incantations due to the fp efficiency, but I think if you ever do pvp/invasions or fight very agile bosses, having the better turning and tracking of the named variants will result in more damage due to being less likely to miss your target. (Plus some of them like Smarag's Glintstone Breath you can combo with terra magica on an int/fai build for a truckload of good tracking damage cone)
This is a fantastic point. I completely agree. If I were to go into PvP, I would switch out the basic breaths for their upgraded versions. Thank you for bringing this up and for your comment.
Smarag helped me dps spike the gargoyles. In ng+ im using the unamed breaths more. But in playthrough 1, named breaths helped do that little extra dmg against bosses.
I also confess,
This is a great video. I absolutely love how in depth your guide goes to explain every little details and reasoning being your choices.
It is greatly informative and I absolutely love it. At no point during the video were I left wondering why you did this or is there a particular reason for that spell or equipment.
You gained an instant sub, I'll immediately be on my way to see if your other builds are of similar quality.
(I just wonder what are the 3 most powerful ones)
I am very happy to hear about this. Your comment and kind words mean a lot to me. There are plenty of builds in the channel, and I try to make each one a little bit unique. I hope that you enjoy them. Thank you for your support.
New frowny just dropped! Happy holidays!
Happy Holidays! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment.
Hope your doing well, Frowny.
Another nice hybrid build. Good insight on the basic vs named dragon incantations. I mostly used the basic because of my low investment in arcane, so interesting to know they're still arguably the better choice even with a high investment.
Happy to see your comment. Overall in PvE, at this kind of investment, I think that they are completely superior. Thank you.
Your breakdowns are unreal man. Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and kind words.
Another great build! Appreciate you still making them. 👍
Happy that you enjoyed the video. Now I am going to try to make a versatile pure Faith caster. I have a few notes that look promising. Thank you for your comment.
this video is awesome man
explained so well that even a noob like me understood everything
I am happy that you enjoyed the build. Thank you for your comment.
Great video! I just started my 3rd run of the game and wanted to try using the dragon incantations for the first time. You did a wonderful job showcasing and detailing all the nuances of the build. I appreciate the optimization while still trying to make the character make sense in theme.
Subbed!
Thank you! I am glad that you enjoyed the build. Your comment and kind words are appreciated.
Another thing that pairs super well is a better bleed weapon. It can either be a normal weapon like a flameberge or godskinpeeler with Seppuku ash of war and the Occult variant. Or it can be a weapon like the Reduvia dagger that can shoot blood from range. Since you build super high Arcane since the Dragon seal has an S scaling it also makes the bleed effect stack super quickly on enemies. You can even have the White mask and the lord of bloods exultation talisman giving you a damage boost when bleed procs. Which you can proc yourself pre-fight with Seppuku.
Yes, you are correct. That being said, if we do this, the build gets turned into another general bleed build and loses all identity. I really don't like that. Every build I make goes for a theme and tries to stick to it. This helps fulfill the roleplay and it keeps the game fresh. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Yeah that make alot of sense. It is more fun to acually limit yourself and play with a theme.
Man, I do miss watching your ER vids. I haven't played the game for a while as I was playing Wo Long and Lies of P during those months, but your guides and build vids are still ASMR.
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I love this build, in my case I tend to use less fp, I would modify this only if fromsoft fixes a bug with the erdsteel dagger, which strangely enough, if we put the blood/poison/occult affinity on that dagger, apparently doesn't take account the arcane scaling, if fromsoft fixes that, then the dagger would work perfectly with something like 40 dex, 30 fth, 45 arcane. With this is just enough for the scaling of the dragon communion seal and I would have basically something similar, but with a reduced cast time (obviously also a radagon icon), anyway, wonderful video and I honestly love this build
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Wow this is my exact build but with a 5 point difference between mind < endurance. Also to squeeze out more damage, I use the highland axe on my belt instead of the shield. Great build and video, keep them coming!
I am not in a position to actively test this so, correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember that the Highland Axe does NOT affect Dragon Communion Incants.
That said, even if it did, using the double Dragon Communion Seal set-up is better because the seal gives a 15% damage versus the Axe’s 10% increase.
In any case, lowering Mind for more Endurance is a good change. It’s a sacrifice I would make as well if I needed for Equip Load.
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@@FrownyGaming Given the added endurance point, I guess there is an argument for the Highland Axe if the gentleman is also using roar based ashes of war on his main weapon.
I don't know either if it works on dragon breaths, but assuming it does, it would be a minor sacrifice in damage for convenience of use.
I swear every build you make is like you're reading my mind on things I want to test (:
You always save me so much time on testing, number crunching, and just things I would miss
Love every upload m8 (:
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Great to see you back with another build! Good stuff mate! 🙂👍🤟
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Another well crafted video
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Amazing build and amazing channel 👍
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I've been binging this guy's videos. He has quickly become my favorite Elden Ring RUclipsr. I haven't played Elden Ring yet. I'm looking for a build that is fun and challenging, but most of all, has high discovery. Maybe if I do something like this, but lean harder into arcane instead of faith, and use the ripple crescent halbrad, I could have a more fun experience.
Sorry for the typos
It means a lot to me that you are watching multiple videos that I have created but I have to say: just play the game. You don't need a perfectly efficient build the first time around. Just explore the world and enjoy the first time experience. We only get one of those and Elden Ring is very special. Thank you for your comment and support.
Babe wake up, new Frowny build :D
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I usually end up running a "Dragon Alignment Build" basically this but I can also use the few items describing Dragons, and the Dragon Scale Sword (Ice Lightning sword the dragonkin drops) ends up being my usual main weapon, with a Morning Star set to Occult/Bleed depending on the area's enemies... I end up using the Radagon Icon instead of the Roar Medallion simply to fire off spells a bit faster, and have the Gravelstone seal in my right hand... but beyond that, well most of our bits are the same...
It’s a really good set-up. Very powerful, although it’s not my favorite one. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming Eh, i just noted Dragon Spells did rediculous damage, for heavy FP cost, so I got a Dragon weapon then built my build around dragons, added the gravelstone seal to have Placi's ruin deal more damage, alongside it allowing the Lightning Spear to be stronger overall... honestly if I start a new character i will run your build most likely, just adding enough dex to wield the Dragonscale for a backup for the bleed immune enemies
Awesome vid. Subscribed. Bring on the DLC😎
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Whoa. This video is a true lesson. Thx!
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Great video. I prefer Dragon Fire and Glintstone breath for use on horseback and named Ice and Rot Breath attacks for ambushing enemies. I enjoy the versatility you get by jumping down on enemies and casting the breath attack as you descend. For me it's all about the ambush attack with ice and rot.
This is a good strategy. You are able to keep a few options from both sides of the scale to better suit your situation. I like it. Thank you for your comment.
great vid and as much as i enjoy the dragon skills im not good enuff at the game to use long casting skills and survive lol, cheers for the entertainment
That's fair enough. Fortunately, the game allows for many different ways to play and build your character. Thank you for your comment and kind words.
Hey Frowny nice to see a new unique build from you, what would you suggest using alongside the dragon com. seal in regular new game as there is only one to collect?
I just used one Dragon Communion Seal and the Morning Star. I added the second Dragon Communion Seal when I got it. Thank you for your comment.
Very cool, man
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on my first playthrough and found that mimic tear helment, but was playing with a more int-focussed spellcaster build so that arcane bonus wasn't that useful for me.
but might respec now and go for what you made here, maybe with a bit more focus on the incantation side. overall, great video and very well detailed!
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I've been wanting to do a Faith type build but man watching your video has me thinking I could just go Arcane and use that dragon communion seal's arcane scaling instead of going heavy into faith and getting a seal that scales less. I'm not the biggest fan of the dragon spells (yet...mostly because I just don't know how to get them to work properly) but I'm thinking I could even use pyro, lightning, black flame, everything faith offers plus you have the status effect when it comes to melee that arcane can give. Damn this build looks fun.
I am glad that you enjoyed the video. As you mentioned, this build allows you to do many different things within the same stat spread. It is part of why it is so efficient. Thank you for your comment.
love the to see more arc faith build, using morning star too which is my personal favorite from the hammer class. still i think this build are better off with arcane weapon that deal split physical and elemental damage like rob, mohg spear, morgott sword, and eleonora poleblade since they wont receive nerfed physical weapon ar as harshly as their pure physical counterpart like bloody helice or blood poison and occult affinity weapons due the silver tear mask debuff
This is a good point and I believe that you are correct. Those Arcane weapons require a larger investment into their requirements, so I would lower Mind to fit them in. That said, I think that the Occult Morningstar is enough, debuff included, to supplement the build. It is mostly a caster, after all. Thank you for your comment.
Oh my friend it's been a while!🎉
It has been a very long time since I made a build video. I am happy with how it came out. Thank you for your comment.
Great build - actually all your builds are solid - you've got my sub:) One question though, is it possible to get more than 1 DC seal on one play through?
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and support. The only way to get more than one Dragon Communion Seal per playthrough is to have another player drop one for you. Otherwise, it is one per cycle.
Follow up question - why is FTH at 30 for this build? It seems like only 28 is needed to meet the incantation requirements.
You are correct. 28 FTH is enough. I just pushed it to 30 in order to reach the first Soft Cap for Faith-Scaling of the Seal. It gives a bit more damage and I believe that the 2 points are worth it.
@@FrownyGaming ah that makes sense. I missed that. I’m forcing myself to do a “region locked” progression of this build to enjoy the gradual build of power. Really enjoying this dragon cleric so far.
Hey, I really like your videos, the builds are great, I am not really into min-maxing and optimizing to the point that it isn't fun anymore, but I love when the builds have a soul, and fashion and coolness are a huge part of it! And your videos surely deliver on this!
I really love this cleric-type build, but I am not super into the dragon incantations, as powerful as they can be... Could swapping out arcane for more Faith and adding intelligence work? In that case, I am thinking it could pair the morning star with the stormcaller ash of war, and then opt more for high faith incantation, and golden order incantation. Do you think is viable in NG and NG+ situations?
Thanks
In that way I can also take advantage of a flame incantation to reset the cold status, and apply it over again...
I am glad that you enjoyed the video. I always like to give my builds a little bit of lore and try to keep a theme going. It makes them a bit more fun.
As for changing this build, take a look at this video ( ruclips.net/video/24wZm8fzgMc/видео.html ). It is a INT/FTH Caster that I think can serve as a base for what you are looking for.
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Hello👋! is it possible to use a dexterity weapon such us katana? Because they also has blood loss build up and they're fast wich cause blood loss faster and easier
Sure thing. It's possible. With this build, you will have to make some changes. The Uchi has 11 STR, 15 DEX requirements in Elden Ring so you are going to need to take one point from Strenght, and four from Mind, and put the all into Dexterity. You will have less FP, but it's not really a big deal. Hope this helps. Thank you for your comment.
ok so I'm doing the exact same bild atm.. firstly I didn't know that u cld use the heal spell on revnants.. what a nice trick.. I absolutely hate those things lol.. just a couple questions.. 1: y no buffs? 2: why no mohgs bleed talisman? 3: I understand it's more of a pure caster build but that weapon wld just be a little too under powered late game.. great vid man! 👌 and yes I 100% agree I didn't hv as much fun with this build either..its strong af but.. I dunno lacking in the action department
You mostly answered your own question here. The reason why I do not go further into the bleed strategy is because I wanted to focus on the spellcasting theme of the build. I wanted something that would use mostly incantations, and the just have a side weapon for weaker enemies. I think that it came out to be very strong, but I am not a huge fan of the Dragon Communion incantations, so it wasn't as fun for me. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming gotcha
More bro, i need more. Do helldivers 2 or anything else in the information cascade, please bro. I just need more.
There are plenty of Elden Ring guides in the channel. It is a bit frustrating for me because my work is keeping me away from content creation at this time, but I will make great efforts for the DLC. Thank you for your comment.
Is the „Mad Crimson Dragon Lord“ possible? Frenzyspells blood spells and dragon spells
It is definitely possible. Technically speaking, we can build something like this. As for its efficiency, I trust that it would provide a good build. All of the incantations that you mentioned can be used through the Dragon Communion Seal for good damage scaling. I would give it a shot and see how it performs. Let me know how it works for you. Thank you for your comment.
Arc/fth is how I got my platinum. I was playing fth/?? until the valiant gargoyles... then I looked into dragon communion seal and smarags Glintstone breath... I never looked back. No respec compared for my prophet. Only need 45 arc / 30 fth / 50 vig/ 38 mind in my experience.
45 ARC / 30 FTH / 38 MND is the skeleton of the build. After this, you can level Endurance, Vigor and weapon requirement Stats as you wish. I chose to keep Endurance low and go for more Arcane for additional melee scaling. Also, a little bit more Mind can't hurt. It is a very good build. I am glad that you found success with it. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming yeah, I kept end, str, and dex pretty low to pump vigor at 150. Plenty of decent weapon setups at lightweight. I tended towards shamshir and off hand med shield / sg curved sword at the end. But I occasionally would go back to short spear with blood tax... and the morning star for enemies weak to strike.
That said, I still need to spend sometime with twin blades, reapers, whips, great swords, colossal weapons on another build to see how I like them. Didn't use them much on my 1st playthrough.
im trying to build something similar right now. but its mostly a pyromancer. thinking 168 60/45 arc/fai with DC seal and fire giant seal on the offhand for giantsflame buff. my spells would be like dragonclaw, dragonmaw/greyolls, take thee, oflame, catch flame, give me strength. for melee right now i just have a bleed longsword that i might switch to occult, with some multi-hit weapon art. talismans im thinking godfrey icon/stalwart horn charm, rad icon, flock's, and millicents. this is to buff damage, maximize effectiveness of hyperarmor, and get casting speed maxed out
This is an extremely aggressive build. Most of the resources going to offense and area of effect. I like it, it's a good idea. Let me know how it works out for you. Thank you for your comment.
I get picking lands between rune as the keepsake but if you pick stonesword key you can get dragon communion seal at the start of the game, then go khalid to kill greyoll, 5 hearts and a lot of level up immedietly Greyoll will take a lot of time to kill, unless you use bleed and theres a grace right behind her, so grab torrent run to that grace activate it, grab a bleed weapon go back kill greyoll
no where near a "better option" keepsakes are keepsakes just saying it's an option if ya'll want to be able to get your dragon seal early, the dungeon is a pain but doable just take your time i ran through on another character had someone trade the seal to the prophet character, then had the prophet character run through two seals right before you've left the starting area
Great build, ran a dragon samurai build round bleed and dragon spells on my first ever playthrough when the game came out had heard they'd been nerfed into the ground but this build has restored my faith (and arcane) in the build it's perfect having two catalysts to, as my ds3 main character was a two pyromancy flame pyromancer so can stick to what I know, again great video
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@@FrownyGaming hey man I get the cleric theme but I just got put on to a cool weapon while playing that boosts roars Highland axe it seems weaker due to lack of bleed but it can be occult infused and to my knowledge stacks with roar medallion pushing greyolls and the roar Ash of war even further beyond sharing it because I wanted your thoughts on using it as a boost item and so people know about it you get it in stormviel castle it can be infused and has the same requirements as morningstar
The Highland Axe is a good weapon, but it is weaker than a double seal set-up. The Dragon Communion Seal gives us a 15% damage boost to all Dragon Communion Incantations. On the other hand, the Highland Axe gives a 10% boost to all Roar-Type abilities. So...
Two seals is 1.15 x 1.15 = 1.3225 ~ 32% damage boost
One seal and Highland Axe = 1.15 x 1.10 = 1.265 ~ 26% damage boost
The biggest source of damage for this build are the Dragon Communion Incantations, so I am more interested in optimizing their damage. When I cast, I bring out the double seal to increase the incantation damage the the fullest.
I'm working on this build in a fresh playthrough as we speak. Quick question, what's the best way to get the dragon hearts needed to get all the incantations?
Well... having to defeat the dragons is definitely complicated at low level. What I did is beat Agheel over at Limgrave, seeing as how he is the easiest dragon fight. Afterwards I went to Dragonbarrow and sliced Greyoll's tail for 10 minutes with Poison and Bleed. That gets you 4 hearts which is enough for the basic breaths to a combination of breaths and maw/claw. This is enough to get you going while you naturally get more hearts by progressing through the game. Thank you for your comment.
Is this a good build for a first playtrough?
Absolutely. You can get the Dragon Communion Seal and the basic Dragon Communion Incantation very early game. The same goes for the Bloody Slash Ash of War. I had a relatively comfortable early game while playing with this build. Thank you for your comment.
If you are roaring might as well use highland axe
In this particularly build, since we are focusing on Dragon Communion Incantations, it is more efficient to run two Dragon Communion Seals (one in each hand). The reason is because the seals give a 15% boost to the Dragon Communion Incantations. Meanwhile, the Highland Axe offers only a 10% boost to roars. This is why I chose to not use it in this build. Thank you for your comment.
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While that may be true, if you are in a pinch and need to cast without having enough time to swap, highland axe is a good backup
is there a reason you went to 30/60 for faith/arcane? the difference between 30/60 and 28/45 is only 17 incant scaling or a 6% increase in damage which really doesn't seem worth it for 17 levels worth of stats
There is. It is an accumulation of smaller reason that made me decide to heavily invest in this spread. First of all, I already have the rest of my Stats in order. I have 60 Vigor. I have what I need for weapon requirements and I have the perfect Endurance to stay right under 70%. As for Mind, I am very comfortable at this level for a full caster. As such, I decided to focus on the damage Stats.
30/60 FTH/ARC gives fantastic Incantation Scaling that scales well with all of the damage-boosting elements. Then, it also increases the physical damage of the Occult weapon, which helps to offset the 5% penalty from the Silver Tear Mask. At 60 ARC, I also hit the second Soft Cap for status application which, admittedly, is not much, but it adds up.
You can certainly invest these extra levels in other damage stats in order to use different weapons. Or put them into Endurance to use heavier armor. But as far as this build goes? I knew that I needed very little investment for the gear that I wanted. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming thanks for the response, it does make a lot of sense with that context.
I've been working on an arcane/faith build myself that uses an occult cross naginata with spectral lance. it's been pretty fun so far.
Now the dlc is out is ghostflame superior to frost breath? And the other one better than fire?
I have not finished the DLC so I have no idea what you are talking about. I am going through very slowly exploring as much as possible. At this time, I do not have an answer for you. Once I go through the full DLC and can test things, I will share results. Thank you for your comment.
Where’s the fight with Malenia? Wanna see one with Arc/Faith caster type.
I am afraid that Malenia has already been defeated in this game file. But it was very easy. I summoned the Mimic. I breathed ice. The Mimic breathed fire. Then we broke her stance with Maw. Both phases took about a minute. Dragon Incantations are awesome for this. Thank you for your comment.
Followed you after this video 🧌 I loved every second of the content and will be trying this build immediately
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Is it ok to have 80 Dex, 80 faith and 45 Arcane with a Keen Nagakiba?
With 80 DEX, 80 FTH and 45 ARC, you can use most weapons in the game at full power. For a Keen Nagakiba, you would get optimal DEX scaling as well as a fantastic boost from Electrify Armament from the 80 FTH. Thank you for your comment.
What did you have for the physick?
For this build, the Physick is not important. You can use whatever you want. Personally, I chose the one that gives you more damage negation and the one that gives you more HP. But you can also choose to use one of the elemental ones to boost your damage, or the one that negates FP spending for a few seconds. Definitely experiment to see what works best for your. Thank you for your comment.
How do you get two dragon seals?
One in NG and one in NG+. Otherwise, you could get it from another player. Thank you for your comment.
Why would I want to use a summon?
For fun. I slapped down the Mimic and suddenly I had the whole battlefield filled with maws, claws and various types of breaths. It was hilarious. Thank you for your comment.
Trying this tonight but my main weapon will be venomous claws :)
Venomous Claws is extremely fun. I recommend having a secondary weapon like a straight sword or dagger that you can put Poison Moth Flight on. This will allow you to remove the claw's poison from the enemies, dealing good damage, and allowing you to immediate re-apply it again. Let me know how it works for you. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming great idea man thanks
If you are interested, I created this build video: ruclips.net/video/8-wnEnOgqU0/видео.html
During the second-to-last chapter, I explain the strategy that I mentioned. This build is more Strength oriented, but I believe that the theory will help you bring out good power from the Venomous Claws. Do not hesitate to check it out.
@@FrownyGaming appreciate it. Faith is my favorite thing to spec
You understimate the power of casting mid air, you can float during the cast and avoid grond aoe while also attacking, for example Godfrey stomp
This is a great example of its utility. That said, as useful as that may be, I do not think it's worth an additional 50% FP cost. Thank you for your comment.
@@FrownyGaming I think the named dragon breath attacks are better for some bosses. While the normal ones are way better when traversal a level fighting normal enemies, since you need to conserve FP until the next site of grace. You can also do the mixed physics flask to gain magic power and unlimited FP for a short time. Giving you atleast one free breath attack against a boss, and if it's free the extra 50% FP does not matter and getting a damage boost is nice. Also jumpin in the air while doing it can let you avoid damage and it looks badass.
Just do it ! Rot Dragon !
fashion Ego driven bull otherwise interesting build
Your comment interests me. What do you mean by “fashion, ego driven, bull”?
Honestly, you can say a lot of things about my content, but “ego driven” got me puzzled.