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Emp please do a video on the history behind RUclips Poops. You would be the perfect guy for the job given your knowledge of it
Hello
EmpLemon thanks pickle rick. Your my favorite meme.
Rick and Morty murdered my wife
Shut up pickle rick
A friend of mine said he dosen't like the new episodes because Rick burps less.
So thats an opinion I guess.
@Adam Senzai wouldn't be a bad thing.
I also noticed it! And on the line of the video, I think it has to do with the constant grandiose 'smartest man in the universe' moments, in detriment of the more down to earth weird grandpa moments of the first seasons
the characters stutter less in general.
While that doesn't ruin the show for me by any stretch, I did notice that his drunkenness got really toned down after the first season or so. I do think it added to his character and the comedy a bit.
@@thenew4559 I agree. It made the character more interesting.
Rick and Morty gives you two choices:
> Praise it and sound like an oblivious pseudointellectual
> Criticize it and sound like an oblivious pseudointellectual
True
Be silent
Screaming pickle rick in a macdonalds makes me a pseudo intelectual.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Alex F. Yes, yes it does
I'm a felon Morty!
I’m Felon Rick!
I TURNED MYSELF INTO AN ABUSER MORTYYYYYY
"IM WIFEBEATER RICK"
@@life_exploit lolllll
Funniest shit I've ever seen
The therapist scene might be heavy-handed but i feel like it was dan harmon getting sick of the fans who worshipped rick and didn't get the point. And then fans attached themselves to the fucking pickle.
They get sick of the fans a lot since in every other episode they piss on the audience about some "going back to simple adventures sucks"
was a bit of an ode to sopranos i thought as well, i never thought that came off too corny and it was the whole show!
Funniest sh¡t I’ve ever seen
(Joke)
It's all fun and games to worship a fictional nutter like Rick, so long as you get it into your head that if he existed in real life, you reallly, REALLY, shouldn't want to like him.
@@birkinsmith88 lets be honest, they're mostly saying that as pretty average people. this man was literally designed to be unbearable, seeing him get better was probably some of the best you could do with him
Most people who call themselves nihilists cite works written by people who were trying to warn others not to think that way.
To quote SFO: "When you got two people who based their actions on Nietzsche, and end up causing catastrophic atrocities on humanity, while constantly misinterpreting his message, you know you got someone's who's pretty tough to read", which leads to the more common quote: "People don't read Nietzsche, they read quotations of him and find them to be cool".
What people need to understand is that Nihilism is WRONG and only leads to stagnation.
@@nickthepick8043 not inherently u can take a Bojack lens on Nihilism where nothing matters objectively but that doesn’t mean one should sit around and complain ab it all day do what u can with what u have regardless of weather there’s inherent meaning in the universe
@@anthonytitone That is also true. Sorry, what I meant was that shows like Bojack show why Nihlisim is wrong, and that you should do something about it rather than just do nothing.
This is why I embrace absurdism much more than nihilism. Absurdism is like nihilism without becoming an edgelord.
I kid you not, he turns himself into a lemon. He calls himself “EmpLemon” Funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
I prefer Season 2, when he was just "Emp".
Clearly this is a downward spiral because of all the women writers.
The emperors new lemon
I thought he turned into an emperor
Is that an insult to our kind?
@@Killifar BROTHER
The fact "wubba lubba dub dub" means "I am in great pain, please help me" manages to capture all of the shows greatest strengths and weaknesses simultaneously.
How?
@@SekiLapse your request is DENIED 😂
@@MadManMitch shocker...
@@SekiLapse it's nonsensical word vomit that was retconned to make it have a deeper meaning to give Rick a more relatable character flaw.
@@Wannabechefguy correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that that line from bird person comes in the same episode where the phrase is first said if not definitely in the same season where it is first said so I don't think it's a rhetcon like you claim.
2013: Futurama ends, Rick and Morty premieres
2023: Rick and Morty's fate hangs in the balance, Futurama returns
I would say this is another case of equal exchange, but I'm not so sure anymore.
If futurama returns in a good way, with the same essence that it had, then oh boy Rick is doomed, it is like comparing Doom's return in 2016 and Duke Nukem forever in 2011, and i love Duke Nukem 3D and Manhattan project, point is, one is literally Eternal, and the other one is barely alive via the power of memes.
@coleabraham4350 and now 2 months later, yes sir Futurama did just that.
Fourth Law of Thermodynamics - Conservation of Creative Energy
Futurama revival was kinda eh... The Xmas episode has seriously become one of my favorites of the entire series though.
@@ParanoidThalyyMVSit was better then I thought and personally only had one *bad* episode
Everyone wants to think that they are Rick... but in reality, they’re actually Jerry
I'm mister meeseeks, look at meeeee...
Stop using those labels, they're dumb.
#deep. bruh
I don't understand why people think they want to be Rick. Both Rick and Jerry have traits that are good and bad but neither character is seen as something to strive for.
Piano Fry probably because Jerry is portrayed, on the surface, as lame and ignorant. He’s unemployed and stupid. As pointed out in the video, he is the embodiment of mediocrity. Rick, however, has created a portal gun that can go ANYWHERE. He can do anything and try to avoid the consequences of his actions
_"Rick and Morty got marketable"_
*plays ad*
Genius.
So you also have a high IQ.
@An On still a funny skit
@@BigFanOfCocks ur mum is still funny
@@EpicGamer-kj1tj thanks, she tries really hard to make us smile!! she would love to hear that someone appreciate’s her humor :D
Having adblock makes me use my imagination with these great as placements.
Pickle Rick was a fun episode imo, and I liked the psychiatrist bursting Rick's bubble temporarily. He takes himself way too seriously, so someone who he doesn't respect at all seeing right through his bullshit felt satisfying at the time.
I totally agree with this
yeah. the show directly addressing rick and Beth’s character flaws was important. The family’s reactions in the car ride home to receiving such a confrontation is what made the episode great to me. Wouldn’t have got a heavy scene like that if the show never said it out loud
Pickle Rick is a phenomenal little bottle episode that fell victim to its own popularity, as popular things do.
Had the same feeling. The idea of rick getting a reality check does appeal to me but I don't think it was executed well.
Or maybe you handle something like that in a manner consistent with the plot that makes sense. That entire episode felt forced down the audience's throat and highly unrealistic for the character we've been presented in season one and two. The season one and two Rick would likely have barked back harder at the annoying therapist and cause antics. This Rick is just some doormat.
Well emp I guess everything is cyclical because I’m listening to your videos while grinding out homework late into the night.
i JUST realized why it’s called adult swim after hearing “all kids out of the pool for adult swim” for YEARS
yeah it's a real thing public pools have for like an hour where kids can't swim so the adults can enjoy the water too. Always has been
@@josephs.3372 It's not a thing in Finland so I had no clue until now.
@@Haispawner It could be an expressly American thing, but yeah. Most public pools have times of the day often called "Adult Swim" where only adults are allowed in the pool so they can swim without annoying kids in the way.
@@vezonf3nrak Thanks for the knowledge, fellow internet user
ruclips.net/video/nTPos60kDtk/видео.html
It speaks volumes when 90% of a fandom says they “identify” with a character that’s nihilistic, self-aggrandizing, self-centered, self-destructive, alcoholic, morally corrupt, selfish, apathetic, and just downright more toxic than venus’s atmosphere...
And the funny thing is, those fans are more like Jerry irl. They saw Rick and fantasize about being that brash against society and get away with it.
I never gonna understand that...
@Nonya Biizwacs glad somebody still remembers moral oral
Yet I unironically think that THAT'S where the show gets its charm: the storytelling and thought processes of the characters themselves.
@@kos2919 Facts
Given how season five is almost a straight rebuttal to the shift of season 3, I look forward to seeing your thoughts as the show continues
And almost completely killed the show in the process. I'm not sure how they are going to pull it back from the gravitational singularity that is the incest baby.
@@cryoraptora303tm2 honestly? I forgot it even happened until the ferret episode. And I assumed they were ripping on themselves by making a new pickle Rick. That’s how I interpreted it anyway
Season 5 was a disaster
@@kebabkebob7808
Nope, of course it was not a " disaster "
for me, it was one of the best seasons of all since the third one.
The jokes are amazing, the themes and parodies... it was a phenomenal season! = )
@@caiovasconceloslara5627 You are delusional
This needs an update to 2024
to this day i still dont understand how The Boondocks wasnt more loved and viewed, it had great characters, really funny comedy, and extremly good political commentary that made fun and critized basically everyone, just like south park does
Do you really want to have the same fate happened to The Boondocks? On top of that a lot of those type of people who want to be trendy miss the actual point of The Boondocks cartoon series and the comics.
bocodamondo South Parks political commentary both aged like shit and is very shitty in it’s new episodes
south park has aged well and its fantastic
on god, i heard about a remake but uhh radio silence on that :(
The Boondocks had an issue of audiences seeing it as "that black show", if you're in a room of mixed races and bring up the Boondocks, it's really obvious to see who watched it and who didn't
"Pickle Rick won this show an emmy"
And not the season 2 finale?
Saddest shit I've ever seen
Bet you don't even clap at all the pop culture reference.
I like Pickle Rick, if only for the absurdity of it. The memes did taint it.
Rick turns himself in to the Galactic Federation > Rick turns himself into a pickle
I *burp* TURNED MYSELF INTO AN EMMY MORTY, IM EMMY RIIIIIICK🥒🏆
The season 2 finale was really good, but there were also better episodes in season 3... Tales from the Citadel definitely deserves some kind of award, and the first episode of season 3 was also really good
So in short, the show had its own identity and themes that it elegantly portrayed, but halfway through, the creators got weak from the fame and abandoned their original intentions to cater to the consumer? Blimey if we haven't heard that one before. Excellent video, Emp. Always love your stuff.
They abandonded their og ways to go agaisnt the consumer
It’s crazy coming back to this now that Justin Roiland is officially sacked. I assume R&M is officially dead or soon to crash and burn w/o him. I mean sure you could find a voice actor who sounds like him but I don’t think you can replace his influence on the overall show. It’s like South Park without Trey Parker or Family Guy without Seth Macfarlane.
@@fluff018 I mean they probably already did a ton of work on season 7 and wanna just complete it but who knows if it’ll continue after. Maybe they’ll be able to just recast for him and find new writers but Rick and Morty is definitely lucky that it’s a major cash cow (or at least was, the viewership continues to tank). This is a really bad time for animation a lot of stuff is getting dropped and cancelled more and more.
It's well known that he has had almost no influence on the overall show besides writing a couple episodes (two of which were interdimensional cable.) Time will only tell if the show will actually crash, but I doubt it will
I’m actually really excited for season 7
They apperantly haven't had much to do with the writing process recently anyway plus his voice is easy to find someone else to do. I think the show will be fine.
@@Zachajewia1110 i wonder of thata true, or just damage control from Adult Swim
25:31 if a man tells you he empathizes with the character of bojack horseman and thinks it’s a good show, it’s all good, but if a man tells you he’s LIKE bojack horseman, YOU RUN
Bojack is such a good character but such a bad person.
@@porassrivastava8242 that hits it right on the nail
and yet, in one way or another, most of us are.
I’m a good friend, big family person, etc… but I also have similar negative or self imploding habits.
If you’ve been through the ringer in life, it’s easy to slip into a depression that you don’t fully see what’s happening or how you’re acting.
Most of us are like Bojack, just not entirely, I relate to his trauma but would never follow his actions
Remember everybody: Nobody likes nihilism. Not even Nietzsche liked nihilism, and he wrote the book on it. In fact, he said humanity should and must find a way to rise above it and find the things in your life worth believing in. Take his advice, don't be a Rick.
I think you have a different definition of nihilism than Nietzsche.
We're talking about the guy that wrote "We must imagine Sisyphus to be happy", right?
@@awkwardcultism if you mean the "god is dead" guy, then yes
@@awkwardcultism no its Camus
@@awkwardcultism That is Camus. And Camus said that because Sisyphus didn't have to deal with the existential angst of... existence because he always had something to do. Intrinsically, for Camus life is suffering (it is an existential axiom after all), but you can make the best of it if you take that suffering to be the way for happiness or meaning itself.
And Nietzsche's "god is dead" quote is precisely about what Xylas is talking of. He believed that, having gone past through religion, the modern man would have to deal with horrors. Nietzsche said "What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives; who will wipe this blood off us?"
Doesn't sound triumphant to me.
Don't be a *Squidward
FTFY
Considering how the current season is going I feel like the writers watched this video in its entirety and took it to heart. They'd probably never admit that but emp definitely knew what made the show good.
Lol I was thinking the exact same thing even if I don't necessarily think they actually took notes from this video
I swear the writers watched this video and took the "dysfunctional family is what makes the show good" part too literally for Season 5 lmfao
I hate the dysfunctional family stuff
While still missing the point of what made it good.
@@fruitylerlups530 ok
I just sold one of those Szechuan Sauce’s from the McDonalds promo for $70. $70 for a McDonald’s sauce...this video is spot on.
TheGhostKidney7 Yeah lol and that’s considered “cheap” for them. Some people try to sell them for $200
Marcus Thompson Would you pay $70 for 6 nuggets worth of it tho?
Get outta here! Yep people are strange lol and apparently some have more money than sense...
Wow
wow i can't pay rent
"Can a fandom be so insufferable that they damage their shows reputation beyond repair?"
Yes, Steven Universe.
Yes, it's called JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
@Aumima Mimadino which is a goddamn shame. I still hold the opinion that Undertale is a masterpiece, but saying that outloud will probably get me to hell on earth
SU definitely has one of the worst fanbases ever, but it's infamous reputation isn't just on them.
Sometime around season 4 all of the show's flaws started growing larger and larger until all aspects of the show devolved to the point that "Change your mind" happened.
I'd say it's reputation is thanks both to its toxic fanbase and the writing of the show itself imploding.
@Aumima Mimadino
UTs fanbase was an absolute Dumpster fire for a good while, but I'd say both it's fanbase and reputation have mostly recovered.
A large number of the toxic fans were trend followers who have moved on to other things, and a lot of the cringy younger fans grew up and came to their senses.
Nowdays the fandom is mostly chill, and I've seen lots of people return to it and giving it praise again.
So I'd say it wasn't beyond repair.
Basically every single fandom with certain enough members and a certain age-group, 13-40~
This whole explanation of why Rick and Morty is a family drama is exactly why the newer seasons aren't good. They sideline this whole relatable family element and it's just episodes that are all based around a single joke being repeated ad nauseum
I suffered from serious insomnia all through junior high and high school, maybe sleeping an hour or two at most. Adult Swim was my best friend during that time. King of the Hill, Futurama, Naruto, and Inuyasha got me through many sleepless nights.
King of the Hill and Futurama are both back on Adult Swim if that means anything.
Drawn together always gets forgotten
@@dominikweber4305 not if you're Spanish speaker
instead of making it a habit, when you get insomnia, dont play into it. Just relax, get very bored, and stare at the ceiling.
"Pickle Rick won this show an Emmy"
I felt violently ill after hearing that
How that fucking episode got nominated over The Ricklantis Mixup and somehow won is beyond me
@@uncensored008 Damn. It should've been The Ricklantis Mixup.
won it an emmy AND an enemy
Ricklantius mixup was great, but you can't sleep on Pickle Rick. It gave a big bad punch on the face of fans who think they're Rick(referringto the therapist scene)
The emmy's mean nothing
"Can a fandom be so insufferable that they damage their shows reputation beyond repair?"
kpop
As a snyder fan and the mcu fan, the snyderverse fandom and the mcu's fandom or at least a small part of them has become like this toxic superior group that look down upon you if you don't like what they like.
3 words. My hero academia. If you don’t know you don’t want to. If you do I’m sorry.
@@spencergalland5754 unfortunately, I do.
The Steven Universe fandom comes to mind
@@porassrivastava8242 What? Cringe.
I agree that Rick's drastically changed characterization took a turn for the worst in seasons 3 and 4. After watching season 5's lore filled episodes tho, What if it was all planned?(this is just a theory lol) All of those episodes that personified Rick as this godlike entity could've been used as a dramatic setup for season 5's end result; to further explain the central finite curve. Now that we know Rick isn't the strongest man in the universe and is the most vulnerable he's ever been, this sets up the show for more creative writing opportunities. Rick is now put in a situation where he can't runaway from his own problems. It lets us know that Rick's weaknesses never went away, they've just been lurking beyond the central finite curve. I'd like to think that this was the writers' true intentions all along. Could just be wishfull thinking. Regardless, Rick and Morty seems to be at it's peek again. Can't wait to see what they do with Season 6.
Oh damn i'm not the only one thinking they had it planned. just gonna copypaste the comment i just wrote here
"20:25 OH MY GOD i just realized something.
looking back at this, after the season 5 finale... it could be possible that around that time, rick created the central finite curve, and they had it all planned.
"somewhere along the way, rick transformed from the flawed scientist into the smartest man in the universe"
"the show only starts calling rick this in season 3"
i wonder if the creators had the curve in mind back then. if so, that redeems the weird writing back then for me.
also, they confirmed that the "made up backstory" rick "only used to escape prison" was actually real.
either its a big coincidence, they watched this video - or its just genius."
Idk I don’t think they had it planned the whole time if you look at the behind the scenes of the finale posted on adult swim RUclips channel they said they had to rewatch all the old episodes to plan the finale
I doubt it was all planned. It could just be that they saw what they were doing to Rick and didn't like where things were going so they decided to make Rick Vulnerable by making the Central Finite Curve
Season 5 was horrible. Definitely was the lowest for the series and not the peak. Peak was season 2.
That's dumb
The title good show m.A.A.d fandom is actually very clever it’s a reference to Kendrick Lamar’s good kid MAAD city in that album that MAAD is abbreviation for either my angry adolescence divided which could signal how our memories of the show are ruined from the fandom of Rick and Morty it’s also an abbreviation for my angels on angel dust which could also stand for how the fandom is so unhinged and out of touch it’s like they’re on drugs
"Will season 5 come out before the imminent collapse of civilization?" Well I know one thing's for sure; it's gonna come out before Yandere Sim
Amen, brother/sister
Cheers, I'll drink to that
That's a huge stretch, implying that Yandere Simulator is ever coming out
@@dillontyler3002 Hey, don't talk that way! Just you wait, in 3060 it's gonna be the greatest game you'll EVER see~!
Theonetruedog TheDog lovesick: *Oh man, this is gonna be fuuuun*
The briefest clips of Rick and Morty have raised my IQ to just high enough to understand EmpLemon’s content
Fool
I do not detect the sent of the concoction of classified ingredients for capitalist benefit known as "Szechuan Sauce" therefore making your argument underdeveloped and silly.
Where tf did you got the extra 0s??
To be fair...
Based and Lemonpilled.
Not a lot, then.
Unpopular opinion: I love serialized episodes and I want to know the Evil Morty story, how it started and how it will end
Same
Now Rick and Morty is "dead" and Futurama is back.
Glorious victory.
Rick and Morty is that show you're embarrassed to mention around friends, but when watching the show you realise how good it is.
Accurate. There are several shows like this.
Tbh I, only really like the episodes that make you think, like the one where they went into a universe in a battery
I don't really care for the more useless or fun episodes
@Majin Melon you are literally just saying "reddit cringe" in every comment praising rick and morty, pretty shitty ngl
That hits home fr
@@ziggymoondust2281 he has a shaggy profile picture what else did you expect
For the guy who is known for the “downward spiral,” you sure do know how to find the bright side of things.
That’s because the existence of a downward spiral implies the existence of an upward spiral.
@@Dylan_Devine For every downward spiral, there is an equal and opposite upward spiral.
Seanvich you can’t find the silver lining with some dark clouds.
mstrblik I didn’t ask for these chills, but here they are. Thanks.
EmpLemon's wrong on this one. Rick and Morty is pretty bad. Its 'comedy' is terribly pretentious with Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland self inserting their weird fetishes.
I’m glad that whole “you have to be a genius to watch the show” thing past. For Christ sake it’s a cartoon not a lecture on bio chemistry.
Age of Rick and Morty is over
Long live the age of Smiling Friends
Sorry mate but Smiling Friends has already died
@@trixsomethingsomething2095I'm sorry mate but the Brits already lost
@@user-wm8en3pm6z Yes. Lol
It's never a good sign for your fandom when your characters start getting put on Hot Topic t-shirts.
Anit that the truth
That’s when you bail
I mean, invader zim has been in hot topic merch for years and the recent movie was probably one of the best things in that series so...
Hot Topic really lives up to it's name. It's where good things go to die.
Yeah....only music bands should be put on hot topic t shirts
That's literally the only thing I'll ever get from that store
"what is rick and morty about"
about rick and morty duh
I thought exactly the same LMAO
@@juicyd9233 it's about Roiland selling his soul
Dunkey Is Black how?
Sam hyde Charles Carroll Nick Rochefort in world Peace adult Swim million Dollar Extreme
no, seriously, it's a character study of two people over the course of years
and their family
and the world
The family becoming nihilistic like Rick and losing their identity just to become more like him is actually brilliant in itself because it’s what happens when people become enthralled with a narcissistic personality
how can you not become more and more nihilistic if youre constantly exposed to the reality of it. It does make logical sense.
@@jokabox93reality doesn't have to be happy lol
Bro’s hobby was homework
Lol
What's funny is that Emp turns himself into a Lemon.
He's called EmpLemon. Funniest stuff I've ever seen
LEMON EEEEEEEEEMMMMPPPP
Funny joke, terrible execution
No, just NO
Flip the lemon Mumkey
I turned myself into a lemon Mumkey. I'm Lemon Emp.
that is indeed a funny
"It's not just a show about an anti-hero, it's an anti-show."
This line right here perfectly sums up why animated shows like Rick & Morty and BoJack Horseman are my favorite shows in the last decade. They both take so much cultural history that's been previously established in America media and constantly reframe and question it.
Not to mention, I love the lack of limitations animation brings to the table when touching on serious topics. Rick's attempted suicide would be impossible for me to watch if it was live-action, if it was attempted with a gun or pills, instead of a sci-fi thingy machine that's generally beyond our comprehension.
I wouldn't consider Bojack to be an anti-show like R&M. Bojack does follow a pretty standard series of events like any other show, it just gives a fuck-ton more nuance and humanization compared to other shows that step into those kinds of topics.
@@99sins I think bojack horseman is definitely an anti-sitcom. The show originally presents itself like a goofy animated sitcom, but quickly becomes much more. The show presents a long storyline that runs through the entirety of 6 seasons, instead of resetting each episode like a traditional sitcom.
However, the show most importantly uses it's sitcom-like appearance as a contrast to the reality of the show and to highlight a source of Bojack's depression. One of the main messages of the show is that there isn't always a happy ending and problems don't always get closure, in stark contrast to the messages of a traditional sitcom. Bojack had a miserable childhood, so his idea of a normal life comes from his time on horsin' around. However, this depiction of life is very different from his actual life. He constantly strives for an idealized, perfect life, and is constantly disappointed in himself when faced with reality.
@@99sins Eh, I would. Because when most shows in the past touched on things like MI and abuse, they tended to use those subjects as just window dressing and motivation for characters being "evil" and "violent". They simply glorified the subject matter. But BJH directly addressed that and many other thing, like Hollywood corruption, sexism, and a long list of other heavy subjects that are just used as plot points in other shows w/o be given proper respect or nuance. So, I would totally classify it as an anti-show: anti-hollywood culture.
You know I'm actually really glad that BoJack never quite got the obnoxious fanbase that Rick and Morty eventually got, but then again I do think that it was always the more mature show, especially when it comes to its standout dramatic moments.
""It's not just a show about an anti-hero, it's an anti-show."
This line right here perfectly sums up why animated shows like Rick & Morty and BoJack Horseman are my favorite shows in the last decade. They both take so much cultural history that's been previously established in America media and constantly reframe and question it. "
What is that even supposed to mean? Like is it because they name off tropes and sterotypes, and found out about anti-humor, maybe because they have a meta narrative and faux meaning shoved in?
Yes they're "definitely" the first shows to be deconstructionist but lets also praise them for calling out shitty lazy writing by intentionally being shitty trope filled lamp-shading writing then not actually going on to show a better way of doing it, its fine to call out or parody a trope but you need to actually then show something better than that trope, you can't just say "haha aren't fart jokes so bad and cliche" without a follow up or you're being just as bad but with a lazy level of "irony"
They both try to subvert expectations but its so shallow that the subversion themselves are at this point cliches in themselves.
after 3 years, i gotta say rick going to therapy was the best decision they coulda made lmao
Just watched the newest episode and lord does it hit every point you mentioned. Rick flying into the abyss because why not, morty struggling to deal with having to solve problems on his own, beth trying to come to terms with the fact she's not the best version of herself, you hit the nail on the head.
Ngl season 6 ep 1 was actually pretty good
I feel like the talking cat who kept telling jerry not to ask questions and just enjoy life was a direct message to theorists like matpat
Thanks that's clearly an original thought. It isn't like matpat said that outright in one of his videos.
@@maanavsikaria189 i havent watched most of his videos, theres over 7 billion people in the world is it that hard to think that two of them had the same thought
@@Surteronarto like i said, i dont watch matpats videos
@@Surteronarto it's actually extremely common for groups of people to have the same thoughts, especially at the same time too. Theirs a whole phenomenon called "multiple discovery" that is all about two different people in two different places having the same idea and/or thought.
for me, directly parallel to this comment, in the suggested videos column, is the video matpat made theorizing about the cat.
People finding excuses to say they are smart is the funniest shit
Was that a smart comment?
@@RobRidleyLive Define smart
@@mr.absolute8556 me.
/s
@@mr.absolute8556 my momm
@@mr.absolute8556 cheeseburger
well based on recent news I don't think this show is going to get any better.
Watching this now that S6 is underway, it really is impressive how the show's managed to turn itself around. S4 was weird and S5 had some stumbles, but all of S6 that's out so far has been really strong, both thematically and in the beat-to-beat joke writing.
When Rick says "love is just chemicals" I immediately thought of the "Hypocrite that you are to trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they are chemicals." Meme.
Not a bad point, actually. The one who goes on living in a world, that he knows can be scientifically deconstructed, will be stronger than someone who just gives in to fate.
@@deadliestvice5356 Science fails and that makes science, science. Of course that things like math and physics can be explained but chemistry requires a lot more "lab" work for good answers.
@@hbtm2951 The purpose of science is to figure out how the world works by calculating, analyzing, examining, and experimenting the living and the elements.
i mean, reality in theory may just stop existing, or maybe it never did. Because we get very bit of information from our eyes, ears, nose, tactile sensations etc.
And there's like an actual theory about reality just not being. You could be a brain floating in space who made it all up to keep itself entertained
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I kid thee not, gentleman, the madman turneth himself into a pickle. ‘Twas truly ludicrous, thou shouldst have witnessed it thyself.
Truly a sight to behold
A fine product of comedy
Verily my good sir
Supreme Person no
@Supreme Person Yes
Tbh my favorite parts of this entire show is just seeing Rick’s depression, yeah he’s the most intelligent man in the universe with extremely nihilistic behaviors and almost borderline sociopathy, but at the end of the day he sees that as a flaw at the same time, he’s constantly in pain, feeling cursed with his intelligence just as much as blessed with it, and his family is the only thing that makes him feel human, the people who try to idolize Rick are just dumb, he’s not supposed to be idolized, i believe he’s supposed to show the ultimate result of a man who found the ultimate knowledge. In the end he’s just as flawed as everyone in the world without showing it to the people he’s around
it's a shame this comment was overlooked. this is a perfect encapsulation of what people should do vs what they actually do regarding his character. idolizing a self destructive character is missing the point entirely. just enjoy it for what it is and stop trying to convince yours of concepts that dont exist.
@@robosing225 yes the point of rick is to discourage the search of the ultimate knowledge i believe
@@Braindamaged226 Such a shame their toxic fanbase ruins such a good show. I mean it doesn't _ruin_ the show, but almost gives it a bad rep because of the toxicity of certain "fans."
I feel it's a zeitgeist problem. This generation is full of very unruly behavior that fosters such irritating dialogue between the fans and _the_ "fans." You know, find problems that _you_ make up yourself because you're inadvertently projecting you're own insecurity and behaviours onto your favorite cast of characters. So when said characters deviate from what you expect, it causes a host of problems that you made up for yourself. Had you instead watched the show with the foresight to know "it's just a show." and not philosophize it into perdition, maybe you could actually enjoy it for what it is. Fun.
@@robosing225 yes, i think it’s fine to relate with a character like rick, you’re a person your family doesn’t understand or relates to at all, but to just idolize him makes you look like a piece of shit, considering how he treats others and views others just because of his high intelligence, which is what makes him feel lonely, he’s so smart he can’t help dehumanize them, the only difference between him and the fans is the fans are just a bunch of snarky teens who first discovered cynicism, like every teen does but most become “trolls” and other things to show off their extreme cynicism
haha i aint reading this rick lore because im new to rick and morty
I started watching the show like a month ago and I was surprised by how it was actually good and funny and not so "hard to understand intellectual bla bla bla" as the fandom made it out to be
Wow 😲 you must have a high IQ
Season 1 and 2 ARE smart. It's warning against nihilism. As an ex nihilist the moment Rick turns himself in should have been the series end. Because your actions do affect others and matter. There's difference between fake edgy nihilist and people who realize nihilism is poison
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty
@@CameraX_FNAF so true
@@blackbeast9268 i enjoyed the pizzaz of season 3's opening a ton, but then it eclipsed and got old. Hated season 4 and 5.
i dont even personally think that pickle rick was a bad episode or that is "divided" the audience. i just think the fandom took that joke and wouldn't shut up about it until it became cringe.
The women were the ones who made it cringe.
They incessantly went overboard with it because they thought Pickle Rick was cute, and going overboard about it would be cute. They were wrong.
@@VwapTrader coming from a woman who likes rick and morty: no woman thought pickle rick was "cute" and most jokes were specifically to make fun of guys like YOU
This entire thread is cringe.
@@VwapTrader I am sure you have proof of this claim and this is not just some sexist piece of shit comment?
It's not just the fandom, but the meme community as whole, especially for Reddit. I've seen a lot of Pickle Rick memes all over the Internet and I thought it's funny, even I haven't watched the episode yet.
I don't know about you but saying that "women should be staying in the kitchen" for ruining the show is just... ridiculous.
"The truth is that EVERY fanbase has it’s “toxic” side, and that’s because every fanbase has a huge variety of ages, a huge variety of opinions, and a huge variety of maturities. There will always be people who irritate you, inside and outside of any fanbase. That’s not a fault of the fanbase, it’s a fault of people, and we’re all guilty."
- Scott Cawthon
You hit the nail on the head with that quote.
A lesson I learned the hard way
I can't blame all for the bad of a few.
Unless it's Jojo's in which case the annoying side of the fanbase is like 80% of it
@@SomeGuyHowGoesIt cope
All the butthurt seasonal anime fan cope lmao
Welp, here we are folks, 2023, possibly the worst timeline for anyone whose a fan of Rick and Morty right now...
I'm out of the loop. What's up?
@@crack4184 Justin Roiland got fired from the show because he was charged with domestic abuse and sexual assault.
I stopped watching Rick & Morty after season 4. I'm watching Smiling Friends now.
Gotta love Smiling Friends
Xavier Renegade Angel is an all time classic
You got a license to say that chiqoman?
Fuck yeah
You're goddam right
It's goated
You slumber a cucumber
Emplemon: “If I ask you to picture a Seinfeld fan, you probably couldn’t come up with a definitive stereotype.”
Me: “uh my Dad.”
A guy who enjoys airline food
Lol i was like.. 'old people?'
@@cpiece2450 I was gonna say boomers.
there is no need to write "me:"
*siendfeld song starts playing
Me as just a casual viewer really never noticed these changes in the shows narrative until you pointed them out it. I just enjoyed the show for its sci fi elements and witty humor. It will be interesting to rewatch the first two seasons now with this knowledge
Same I just enjoyed the show for Everything it had to offer
Yeah, don’t change ur views because someone ok the internet told u to. I find the show great and personally do not see a decrease in quality and have continued to enjoy the show as much as ever.
Same bro. Its always good to see things for yourself 👍
Anyone come back here after the Justin Roiland stuff?
:(
Reminds me of that frog episode from Smiling friends. There is not much else to say...
You know when i started watching I didn't expect Rick to be compared to Gex.
GOTY baybeeh
Is it not Gex night?
Emp is a fan of videogamedunkey so it makes sense
Remind me to never drink tap water at Jerry Garcia's house.
beingbutter No, it’s *_tail time_*
Finally an actual analysis instead of “urrr fans bad so show bad blub lub”
the community is half the experience
The fan base is part of it though, like he mentioned due to public expectation and the impact it had on the production of season 3 and 4
Humour it's cringe tho
@@dgam4211 not really, i watched all of rick and morty without ever engaging with the fan base. not because I thought they were toxic, more because it seemed like a waste of time and energy to me personally. to each their own i guess.
Emp was, and is, still apart of the awful R&M fandom. This video shows it well by having him defend a terrible series.
31:31
Hits different now
good show m.a.a.d fandom whats next to pimp a morty
Then RICK
IMO Boondocks deserves much more love, writing was some of the most brilliant I've ever seen
To bad Granddad is; ended from life.
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Agreed
aaron wouldn't be liked by the toxic culture of today. imagine a black guy criticizing black culture in 2020. he'd be crucified by his peers. such a brilliant show that never got fully fleshed out.
Boondocks was really inconsistent in terms of quality writing. Felt like the best bits could have easily been compressed into just one or two seasons worth of material.
@@lunasakara7306 I dont think rest in peace is exactly banned, and if it was, people would have noticed already.
"You had people trying to dissect the greater intellectual meaning behind Mr. Poopybutthole" is sentence that nobody on planet Earth ever expected to hear and that is hilarious
I was hoping I would find this comment and not have to right it myself, thanks bro 😎
I'm still hoping for something to come of that they redid the intro and everything for him and then never really brought up that something was going on with him
@Ｓｔｕｐｉｄ░Ｂｉｔｃｈ (代因ソ) yeah I get that just seems like alot of work for not a great joke oh well they made up for it with pickle Rick anyhow
When they buffed Rick from "smartest man on earth" to "smartest thing in the universe who is basically immortal" they took away any sense of danger and really limited how they can move plots along, like in the pilot how he needs to travel to another dimension to get a serum to fix some broken legs, nowadays he just professor gadgets some leg healing laser out of his cankle and we move along
Early Rick was like a 2009 good Minecraft player, but current Rick is more like a modern "hardcore" player that's basically in creative mode
I understand the criticism of season 3, but I think the aimlessness was supposed to represent the effect of Rick on the family. Without the grounded, familiar input of Jerry, the family started to enter a downward spiral of becoming like Rick, and therefore most if not all consequences or meanings were devalued. Other theorists have said this before, but here are the general points of each season. S1: The family gets to know Rick. S2: The family and audience get to know Rick on a deeper level. S3: Rick toxifies the family. S4: The family learns and begins to become independent from Rick. I think everything that happened in season 3 was necessary for the audience to realize just how much influence Rick has on the family dynamic (the main narrative of the show), especially without Jerry. Season four was then the family realizing how unhealthy they are acting and rising above Rick's nihilism, finding purpose in things other than Rick. And I think a big part of that was Jerry. In 4x9 this change is illustrated perfectly. Rick and his daughter build a society of his "children" where nothing matters, and people are just valued on intelligence. Meanwhile, Jerry finds his own meanings and reasons for why things matter, shown through camping, and eventually gets God power, the power of "faith" if you will. Eventually, the two sides come in confrontation, and Rick is defeated by God only for the kids to kill God anyway, who themselves end up learning from their mistakes in the process. They realize that not caring about anything and being overconfident about their intelligence almost got them killed, and killed God in the process, basically symbolizing how nihilistic intelligence is the killer of faith and meaning. And yet, even as intelligence conquers God, God's corpse still crushes Rick's meaningless society.
Enrico Pucci Pretty good summary all in all. Season 5 may be Rick having to undergo his own personal changes to figure out who he wants to be, and facing his problems more directly. He can’t just rely on the family thinking he’s amazing, he needs to find his purpose
So thats why the universe got reset.
i love those idiots who do the script writers jobs, season 3 sucked and there is no "meta" explanation within the show as to why, and season 4 was even worse
@@nahuelahpa1881 hes not doing anyones job, would you rather the show to blatantly tell you the reason behind every story decision themselves? Show dont tell, remember
@@nahuelahpa1881 Why so serious?
Now talk about Xavier Renegade Angel, the show with weapons grade philosophical insight.
Isnt that show making fun of spirituality and philosophy
i think its a real shame that that show is now just known for being where Rick and Morty detractors went once the fandom went bad
@@xanedivinedragon6553 in a way, but mostly it's an experiment to see how edgy you can get before getting cancelled
nochtczar less edgy, more just nonsensical and less appealing to basically anyone but the show’s creators. Too bad the show is actually really good and super fucking funny lol
It's a show that is simultaneously complete random drivel and strangely meaningful.
I'm kinda glad that they took a turn in 2022 to the kinda old version Rick and Morty
I just wanna mention how I really like your implementation of music in your videos. Harmonically beautiful and helps make the points you make.
Emplemon is the only channel that whenever he uploads, I drop everything and watch.
same
It's a shame that he was exposed by Simian Jimmy.
@@thefakealan what did he do?
Including the baby
Yeah? You and ten million others say the same thing.
"He's not a villain, Summer, but he shouldn't be your hero. He's more like a demon or a super fucked up god." Morty
They try to warn you that he's not the one to idolize.
@James F Rick is like the definition of "alpha", the issue is that people think being "alpha" or "beta" matters at all. Referring to people as alpha or beta males just makes you seem like a fucking loser because the terms are pointless.
@@DuckyVanya Isn't he a Sigma? Lone wolf, non-conformist, but still winning despite it all?
Alpha? Tf is this, a Wattpad original?
Clicked for the content, subbed for the ad. That was brilliant, well done.
I grew up watiching this as a teen but as i continue in life im realizing that Ricks 'definition' of love is actually the definition of lust
"This is where Rick becomes a flat character"
_cue Flat zone music_
Yea i see he loves smash bros music lol. Love it
@@zachstarattack7320 Ya I also heard the ice climbers somewhere in there
@@artistmeme8103 and super smash bros melee ost
Beep beep boop boop
@@steveweast475 i stay up so late
I haven't seen a fandom destroy its own media since Homestuck.
Well said
It keeps happening.
Thank you
Care to explain?
@@michaldworakowski187 How free is your afternoon?
"nuanced commentary"
"jaded wisdom"
Thankfully, season 6 seems to have addressed basically everything! As someone who just started watching the show a couple of years back, I am glad I joined in on the right time.
"Buy another one Morty, *consume* Morty!"
*gets an advert for Audible*
TIMING
He deliberately put an ad there for the joke, didn't he
Lol that was low key funny though. But speaking of buy another one morty consume. Pringles, hbo max, and wendys. They became what they were always against.
@@fraz0r820 I'm surprised that Emp would be allowed to do so.
Yall need some adblock fr
Rick and Morty is k-pop for people who bully k-pop Stans on the internet.
Arey Singh sir ki haal chaal
Ok we get it you don’t like us you can stop
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Ashok Singh thanks for reminding me I should probably get some mental help(btw the memes dead and it was a joke)
@@NO-fn6wy sorry man! I know.
This is the 2nd channel tonight thats surprised me with gran turismo music in the midst of the documentary lol its so cool to see such a variety of music... its fun recognizing all of your song choices! Great video!
I hope stuff like this doesn’t happen to smiling friends
Ong
Smiling friends sucks
@@rickandmortyisthebestshowi8907 ur mum
@@_V.Va_ ur mom died in a car crash
@@rickandmortyisthebestshowi8907 u have got to be the saddest fan I’ve ever seen especially for a Rick and morty show? U know Rick hates people like you right?
I couldn't help but notice the Simpsons were green here too. Consistency: I love it
He couldn't help but notice
When a show against nihilism becomes a show about nihilism
Thats because Rick's character is so good, people want to relate to Rick more than the moral of the show because of how cool and smooth he is
@@chancellorrr Rick is actually very smooth and buttery I met him in real life.
@@chancellorrr Rick is a funny character yes but not a good person by any means he’s a sociopathic person yes he has his good moments but over all he is a horrible ducking person
I think people always like Rick tho and so I don’t see how it was ever against nihilism
@@favray we live in a society
Emperor Lemon you are an absolute legend for that first 10 second audio playing in the background, you know what you did and are exceptional for it
The music stops in this vid are killin me, Gorillaz, OG AS theme, The Real Jims, and a song Pan Pizza uses every vid. Dead. Great video!!
To be fair, you need to have a very high IQ to understand EmpLemon.
No
He’s gone so far down the spiral he’s gone beyond the “bottom” reached the top, only to be dragged back down to the endlessness below once again. This is his future. His guarantee. Nobody can help him. But I have a suspicion that he doesn’t want it. The spiral has become his home. A part of who he is. He has accepted this, and you should too.
what if he's travelling in a spiralling never ending portal?
One must imagine emplemon happy
Andrei Bratosin and Sisyphus too
Emp was born in it, molded by it. A non stop plumment since he was a boy and when he finally became a man, the top was heavy was difficult.
@@redline841 He born at the bottom, and he climbed. Just to fall, fall, fall from the top. Now he's climbing up there once more. Perhaps he never reached the bottom.
Dude, this is an amazing video. You really pointed out everything that was needed to say about the show, its good stuff and his rise, and its bad times and its demise with a possible comeback. Im glad you mentioned the fandom bit since it really was a mayor factor that no many people mention.
I was an prime admin of a really huge RyM community with over 50.000 members, and i saw in front row how the problems of the third season began to happen, and nowadays that whole thing is dead since yeah, people got tired of the show. I hope some day it revives as the show itself
Correction: FORMERLY good show
So, what you're saying is...
Pickle rick is not the funniest shit I've ever seen?
Not anymore
Never has been
funniest comment i've ever read
*cocks gun and aims*
Never has been.
WE RIOT UNTIL HE APOLOGIZES, UNTIL THEN, WE CANCEL ON TWITTER
I like how people just universally laugh at MatPat.
Is matpat generally hated?
@@renosanceisdead7365 I hadn't known for the longest time but apparently he is
Hemmoroidza why though
@@chiefkeith57 No idea, maybe his videos aren't upto par with certain people's expectations
Hemmoroidza I can only guess that it is due to his ability to constantly create “theories” that ends up just feeling like he is milking a certain topic.
Some old fans watched him for actually theories that proposed mathematical equations and what not, but now his theories don’t involve that.
Lastly, there are rumors that some of his theories he “makes” are pretty much copied from reddit. But those are rumors.
Rick and Morty is what dumb people think smart people are like. It is written by a couple of community college dropouts.