Prey Drive Verses Defense Drive Demonstration Using "Bean von Prufenpuden"
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2010
- Protection demonstration using an 18 week old GSD puppy. You will see balanced drives. Both prey and defense drive are present in this puppy. You will also see pronounced fighting drive and high quality grips. This puppy was bred by Animal Resorts and Training Center and is suitable for a wide range of working applications. For more information contact David Harris @ 502-542-9747 www.protectiondogsales.com
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You might want to listen to the video before you write a comment. This was an educational demonstration, not training. She wasn't TRAINED to be defensive. She is NATURALLY defensive and very demonstratable for people to actually SEE and HEAR the difference. The fact that you cannot see it doesn't make it not so. Watch the rest of her videos over the next year and a half. Then show me your dog working. I like to see proof. Not talk. My videos are out there. Show us yours.
Well over 3000 videos now. 4-12-17 Growing and growing. Quality never goes out of fashion.
You sound so dumb david harris. A dog should never be put into defense until they are mature. This is a puppy. If it is put in “defense” then it fears for its life and has a different posture than that. Thats still not defense in ur video. Putting a dog in defense before they are mature enough to handle it creates instability. Your dogs are not serious dogs anyway. The only reason you are somewhat successful is because you have good advertising and put so many videos up that people who dont know anything about dogs thinks its so cool.
Didnt he just say he did not train her do that? What are you talking about? He said she was that way naturally and he used her to demo the difference.. I would imagine the pup is ok.. after the one video..
Show us your dogs then. Let's see them :) You clearly didn't understand the purpose or the content of this video and David has trained thousands of amazing, well balanced dogs. I don't assume you can say the same. That's alright though, because you can say whatever you want from behind your keyboard, without being held accountable to prove your words, because were it your dogs compared to his, yours would pale in comparison, no doubt.
@@danielc5489 didn't you listen to what David was saying in the video? Good God you're a cringy troll know it all, with no proof, he said show proof all you did was troll David with senseless nonsense, shame on keyboard warriors like you are even aloud to leave comments.
Keep doing you David Harris great job demonstrating 👍
I am so glad to learn the difference in the terminology and that you explain the difference in terms like defense and prey drive and others.
You can certainly see the balance. I prefer that in a personal protection dog. Thank you David for sending the link to this video. I love how you break down the terminology. Balanced drives versus military dog training versus the sporting dog. Thank you.
You are welcome.
Excellent Video! I wish every breeder understood "Balanced Drives," and the differences between them. I have met quite a few people that should watch/ learn from this. Awesome puppy, what a great representation of a well balanced GSD.
this is a great lil dog..fearless
Awesome Video! Awesome dog.
Nice pup !!
That is amazing at 18 weeks old.
Thank you. She is all grown up now and living in a wonderful home with four children to watch over. She is a lucky and happy dog.
18 weeks? I want a dog like that lol. This dog will kick ass in the field or protection
Very nice demo -- the barks and behavior are entirely different. Nice dog if you're looking for that balance for your specific discipline. I bet you could ask these guys to set you up with a puppy with more defense or less defense and still have great prey drive for training. She's definitely a fighter (which is great, if you need it).
This is a very nice puppy. Would love to own her myself. Weather you agree with what he showed or not, the pup is still nice. I personally don't see anything done wrong. Good job.
good helper work
Command for?
strong gsd
That's the point. Most people cannot see, do not know, and do not understand the difference between prey and defense drive. So, it's not surprising that you do not see the difference. it is subtle. She is very young. Mostly what this super nice Prufenpuden pup has is "Fighting Drive" in spades. She likes to fight and is capable of seeing the man as prey at a very, very young age. But, there is defense drive there and you can HEAR it if you listen. Thanks for watching.
It seems to me that with prey drive the barks are more high pitched and playful. While the protection drive is more deep and gutteral.
I noticed the same with my dog. If I hear a high pitched bark I know she's playing with someone/something. If I hear a deep bark it's always directed at a perceived threat. I'm not a trainer but I guess playing and instrument kinda made my ears more sensitive, I guess.
What commands do you use???
I know I mentioned in another video that I love a black dog and yes while that is true the most important thing to me is health and the package I'm looking for and that can come in any color for me.
Question: Before I've only heard that people work puppies on prey till they're ready for defense, and also that fight drive comes from experience (a shift in mindset).
But this pup here really seems to be very serious about what she is doing.
At what age does the defense and fight drive develop, manifest and show?
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Defense in 18 week puppy? That all looked like prey to me
Of course it did.
David Harris,how long is your program for a protection dog training,does that include obedience as well.do your clients get to participate so they can have that connection with Thier dog,and what would the cost be!!!!!
I'm very interested in having y'all train my 12 week old Dutch Shepard.Im good at basic obedience,ive owned many catahoula leapord cur's,very smart,stubborn and energetic breed.With very good outcomes.They were working dogs on my families farm,cattle dogs as well amazing hog dogs.Personal companions,natureally guard dogs,and very protective.
My new pup is extraordinarily smart.Still,i need professional trying,im an amateur and know it.Love the things you say,your interactions,and your overall outcome.
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Very nice dog. I have a twelve month female that look identical. The light sable around the neck. However I have a comment to make. I have been involved with dogs for over 50 years and have owned a couple of outstanding protection dogs, real protection. I have been training protection dogs for many decades. It is my opinion that the pup is far too young to work it in defense, especially with muzzle. Although the pup performs well there are a couple of vocalizations that to me indicate stress and
Alex Ribeno You do realize that his is not a TRAINING LESSON, but rather produced for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES right???? No one is defensing this dog. I appreciate you watching the video, now watch it again and listen to the purpose of the video as stated in the beginning of the video. Also, you can see continuing video of this dog up to 20 months on this channel. Bean von Prufenpuden Perhaps by watching her later video you will see that we know what we are doing and all is well. You are right, she is a very nice dog.
My malinois works off defense drive.He has a bit more defense drive than prey drive.His grips are good but then a while after he’ll start letting himself go.Can you get rid of defense drive?
No, but you can be careful not to encourage it. Keep your training light. Stay away from heavy whip action and just have fun. No need to push him. He doesn’t need it.
Is pulling skin above thigh for the OUT?
The super young dogs are very high drive. They do not know to "Out" yet. Grabbing their flank just distracts them long enough to get the tug back. Soon enough they learn to let go. But the dog in this video did not know an out yet. That comes a bit later.
Yes thats understandable. Good job BTW
Why do they have poor grips in defense drive?
Poor is relative. Different jobs require different grips. But, "IF" a dog is coming into protection drive based in "fear for his life" then he wants to keep distance. Watch a wolf attack a elk. They rarely rush in and get a full grip. That is to dangerous and there is no vet waiting by to patch them up. It's life or death. IF the dog thinks he could get injured from rushing in, then they will hold back, rush in, nip, jump back, rush in. It's to slow to release a full grip. So, they take shallow grips with their front teeth. Hope that helps.
The only difference I see is what the target is, she wants the handler. I'm not seeing different drives.
Don I have been breeding for this type and temperment for well over twenty five years. I have been blessed with good fortune and have many, many nice young dogs like Bean in development. Just give us a call. I am sure we can find what you're looking for. We currently have thirty five young dogs in development and they all have amazing drive or we wouldn't be putting our time into them. 502-542-9747 David
Proof in the pudding? LOL
GetMeThere1 Less talk and more show is what we are about. NONE of our 1600+ videos are edited. What you see is what you get. Talk is cheap.
How do you build defence??
Why do you need to do that?
Because my dog thinks everyone and everything is her friend. Which would be excellent for most however I live alone in the worst neighborhood in my city. I take her everywhere I go and I'm tired of randoms approaching us every single day thinking they can touch her or me.
People don't seem to understand "please don't touch my dog". So if she would attest bark at a bad guy id feel safer.
@@angelamacdonald4254 if you need to ask how to train defense is better to not do it because it can be dangerous, and not all dogs work for that, but, you can teach her to bark at people very easy.
This guy is such a joke. The only reason he gets buisness is because he prets on people who dont know what they are looking at. He has good advertising ill give him that. Week ass dogs though. Dogs should not be put in defense until they are mature period. Any reputable trainer will attest to that. You say you have 30 years experience but list your accomplishments bro. Anyone can say they have experience
Yes, anyone can say anything they want. You just did. This video is for educational purposes. Had you watched any of the other 3,500 video I have then you would know we never use defense methods on young dog or old ones for that matter. We are not in the Police or Military business. The proof is in the pudding my little key board warrior. The proof you have given us of your experience is not there.
How is that the “proof in the puddin”? 😂. Defense is not just a police thing. Keyboard warrior 😂 thats awsome. I guess we’ll have to trust your 30 years experience. Proofinpudin is the dumbest name