How to Control the Fight or Flight Response - Jocko Willink

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024
  • Excerpt from JOCKO PODCAST 52.
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  • @freneticfanatic
    @freneticfanatic 7 лет назад +362

    Get comfortable being uncomfortable. A motto for a well examined life.

  • @dogisnotreal1
    @dogisnotreal1 7 лет назад +56

    Excellent advice Jocko! For those that are suffering from Panic Attacks, don't try to "control" the fight or flight response in an aggressive way, that can only exacerbate the problem (WHY CAN'T I STOP PANICKING!?!?!?!)
    Instead, gently noting that you are feeling anxiety and then sitting with it while noting the feelings as they come along can be therapeutic. Jocko is right on the money in regards to physical exertion and competing. Getting used to the butterflies, the increased heart rate, tingling sensation, ect. is important so that IF you start to feel these sensations while feeling anxious, they will be easier to gently take note of and move along.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 6 лет назад +1

      Don't know how much you still care... BUT while you're at it, taking notes of feelings and sensations and all...
      You can work on breathing exercises and relieve them over time... The more you practice that, the more you can control them (in a subtly more assertive, though not aggressive manner).
      It's also worth note that this is one of the GREAT advantages of having "theme parks" as an available recreational activity... Check out the rides that make you "feel worst"... AND repeat them.
      In general, if something makes you uncomfortable or nervous, even confused... Doing it more often in practice tends to diminish the "problem"... In a weird way, I got that kind of advice out of a Singer Book of Sewing (of all places...lolz)... It was a section about "threading the sewing machine" specifically. The book advised that if you're uncomfortable threading the thing, you should take it back apart (all the way or as far as possible) and start all over again, repeating the process until it was "second nature"... for what that's supposed to be worth. I still have to "think about it" to accomplish the task, but it's not a big deal... at least with my varieties of sewing machines (lolz again)... ;o)

    • @PhysiqueFuel
      @PhysiqueFuel 6 лет назад

      gnarth d'arkanen How do you deal with the anxiety of your heart beating faster when exercising and the feeling that you can t breathe during exercise? Basically how do you prevent yourself from panicking?

    • @liteknight
      @liteknight 5 лет назад +4

      @@PhysiqueFuel Don't aim to "prevent" the panic, that will only result in more panicking. Rather, aim to be able to manage it. You achieve this one step at a time, one foot in front of the other. Push yourself to your own current limit every day. Even if that limit is only a 30 second run or less. Limits are variable, some days will be better than others. But every day you have to commit to wanting, desiring & even NEEDING to be better than you were yesterday. & one day after many, many days of falling, failing, stopping & continuing the next day, you'll no longer be burdened by that panic, but fueled by it's presence & that's the day panic attacks become your b*tch & no longer dictate your life. Discipline, discipline, discipline - always. Best of luck to you & anyone who's in that situation. You've got this!

    • @Jattmafia313
      @Jattmafia313 4 года назад

      Physique Fuel you have to accept that nothing is going to happen. I had the same issue at the gym I feared overexerting because I was already dizzy from the anxiety. Once you have been told by doctors there’s nothing wrong with your heart you have to just accept that you are healthy and you won’t pass out or die because you are working out. It’s such a rare thing to happen unless you are on high levels of drugs or old.

    • @spikeboy101
      @spikeboy101 6 месяцев назад

      I can control my anxiety by soothing myself or talking but my problem is I get extremely pissed off during Muay Thai training when I'm forced to keep going even tho I'm near burnt out. I get pissed off because there's no point to going extreme every session. I can't recover this way. I then think about how much of a waste of time this is and that starts to piss me off. I don't know if that's fight or flight but I don't know what to do. Can anyone help me with an answer?

  • @chiaroscuro3552
    @chiaroscuro3552 7 лет назад +46

    I've also heard the response as "fight, flight, or freeze" it's why we think of what we should have said right after the meeting where we were being criticized. I like how Frank Herbert wrote, " fear is the mind killer"

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 6 лет назад +4

      Yeah, too bad more people don't tend to tell you about "freeze". ;o)

    • @b123me
      @b123me 3 года назад +2

      @@gnarthdarkanen7464 i always get freeze and flight i’ve never gotten fight and i want to know how to activate it because i might need it some day

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 3 года назад +3

      @@b123me I always struggled with fight... It's reacting to the fear of the situation with anger... AND admittedly, that was my defacto... got into occasional trouble back in the day before I learned to control it.
      BUT you may or may not find any particular techniques helpful. If you practice the thing you think you need (like fighting) in a reasonable training manner, you then know how to employ it in your life, should the need arise.
      At least, in theory. BUT as I pointed out, they don't often teach about "freeze" and you don't always get to choose how you react to the fear you're going to feel in a crisis situation...
      The good side (for you) is that fighting is so rarely actually useful, you will likely never really need it so much... Adults give up the childish fancy of fighting over every little thing and it's a mark of maturity and expertise to not have to get angry all the time.
      BUT sometimes it's the right answer, too. AND in crisis mode, you're fighting for your life... not for sport. The sports training WILL help with things like form and function, being able to deliver more damage than you take... BUT you're well advised to understand there's a big difference between boxing or wrestling in a gym or studio and what's going to happen in the street or parking lot... or the jungle or desert. AND there's no referee around to keep you from getting killed or to stop you from killing someone...
      At any rate, you'll want to learn techniques and moves, so take up Jiu Jitsu or Boxing or some relatively strong and fierce form of combat sport. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is a dominant form, but you can look to the UFC and check out the champions and regular contenders to figure out a "style" or "sport" that you want to pursue. AND get angry once in a while... like truly seething hateful rage. You can experience emotions without them running you,.. I had to take time to learn it, but there are still times I would've been better off with fight or flight, and I got freeze anyway... SO there's only so much you can really exert in choice on the matter. AND how to manufacture rage is something so natural to me that I find it almost laughable to try and explain it to someone else... I just get angry... I'm comfortable being angry, most of the time, so.... that's how I go to Fight as my nearly automatic response.... ;o)

  • @Graydog-sx6le
    @Graydog-sx6le 7 лет назад +12

    I took up skydiving a few years ago after a tandem jump. It scared me a lot but I knew I wanted to face that fear. I went on and got my A license and got about 100 jumps. I'm no sky god but I got comfortable with it and learned to enjoy it. Great talk Jocko. True as true can be.

  • @aaronramsden1657
    @aaronramsden1657 7 лет назад +33

    true, my first 5 skydives I was overwhelmed, the next I let that feeling run through me and accepted it, then pushed it aside

    • @Graydog-sx6le
      @Graydog-sx6le 7 лет назад +2

      Aaron Ramsden True, after a few jumps I got more comfortable. It's amazing how relaxing jumping out of a plane can be. I understand what you're saying.

    • @aaronramsden1657
      @aaronramsden1657 7 лет назад +1

      Geoffrey Grayson its very tneraputic and blows out a lot of stress for me, although its been a year since I've jumped I'm still very keen

    • @Graydog-sx6le
      @Graydog-sx6le 7 лет назад

      Aaron Ramsden , Yeah. It's been a few months for me due to time and weather. Plan to get back down to my home drop zone this week. Catch back up with some friends. Life's short. Get happy.

  • @marioalosangeles
    @marioalosangeles Год назад +16

    I work security and I've been in several fights, I've faced danger and I've had weapons pulled on me. Thankfully I've never been seriously injured and I can protect myself.
    As of lately my fight or flight response has been sensitive. My heart starts racing at the slightest raise of someone's tone. It used to take a lot for me to react that way, so idk why suddenly my flight or flight response is so reactive.

    • @R-zb6lb
      @R-zb6lb 11 месяцев назад

      How are you holding up now? It's been 7 months since your comment so I'd really love to hear how it's going.
      I struggle with this so much and unfortunately it's grown in literally every area of life so I just avoid everything.

    • @RSTactical
      @RSTactical 10 месяцев назад

      Shchuman resonance is changing on earth and if you're around those cell towers all that EMF prevents any of the earth's frequency from reaching you. And it's vital

    • @RSTactical
      @RSTactical 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@R-zb6lbHave you tried meditating? Not like " aaaahnmn" but more so focus on deep breaths for 5-10 minutes and the present moment. When you feel triggered remember that and start slowly and deeply breathing until you feel more calm and clarity. God bless

    • @manateerpg1396
      @manateerpg1396 9 месяцев назад

      That’s interesting, it’s no wonder the older we get, the more easily we get that adrenaline rush.

    • @calisurfduuuddee8183
      @calisurfduuuddee8183 Месяц назад

      Since 33 or so something changed in me as well. I am way more sensitive to freezing.

  • @Make_Boxing_Great_Again
    @Make_Boxing_Great_Again 2 года назад +14

    I once had some unhinged crazy guy try to start a fight with me in the middle of town in an empty back street in the middle of the night when I was walking home from a night out. I phoned a friend and ignored him hoping that he would eventually ignore me, we didn’t know each other but he was constantly insulting me and pointing at me, following me and blaming me for the problems of the world. He became increasingly aggressive and hostile to the point where he pushed me and I suspected that a dangerous attack was liniment. I don’t know if he just fancied a fight or if he was insane. I was tipsy but defiantly not drunk. The guy was slightly smaller than me but not much and he looked in good shape. Since no one was watching I decided to run. I have felt cowardly and ashamed ever since. I will never know if I would have won that fight or not. I’m quite sporty but not an expert fighter. He may or may not have had a concealed weapon.

    • @jayysmalls4443
      @jayysmalls4443 2 года назад +11

      U did the right thing dw buddy

    • @danielduarte3531
      @danielduarte3531 2 года назад

      you did the right thing he could of fr had a knife or something. it’s okay to pussy out sometimes you live to fight another day

    • @Dylann.000
      @Dylann.000 2 года назад +4

      You won the fight in the best possible way! You win every fight you don’t get into.

  • @taoisttiger4702
    @taoisttiger4702 7 лет назад +16

    as another guy in the comments mentioned fight, flight, freeze are actually the full responses. the " deer in headlights" reaction can often be very deadly. potentially useful if the stillness prevents a tiger from seeing you. not so much from a shooter or a car collision...

  • @terryfookwitt
    @terryfookwitt 6 лет назад +120

    I find that after I’ve started crying uncontrollably and shat my pants, the assailants usually walk away in utter disgust.

  • @marksmer1
    @marksmer1 7 лет назад +9

    Your content is very inspirational and appreciated.

  • @JanThorCrow
    @JanThorCrow 7 лет назад +57

    Detach = being the unemotional witness to NOW.

  • @Engel888
    @Engel888 7 лет назад +7

    so glad to have you around. Deplorable from London

  • @crazymasina8524
    @crazymasina8524 7 лет назад +3

    excellent information, great ideas to reflect and incorporate into every day life

  • @RedRedux
    @RedRedux 6 лет назад +15

    (I have dysautonomia) I live in a near constant state of sympathetic response (fight or flight) to the point of parasympathetic being inpaired. I burn through the nutrients of a marathon runner in full work every day without even walking anywhere. It's incredibly taxing, stress kills right? You know what I do about it? I load water and salt 4L of water and 10 grams of salt everyday just to maintain normal blood pressure, I pound vitamins and electrolytes that are in short supply like potassium and magnesium my stomach doesn't digest food well so I drink meal replacements, I take medication to block my heart from freaking out feeling the adrenaline (but it's still there). Unlike most with this illness I exercise regularly and ride horses competitively. I train myself and my horse like maniacs to keep going. So don't give me any weak piss poor excuses about your anxiety or panic crap. If I can fight through it every dam day and every freaking night so can you!

    • @PhysiqueFuel
      @PhysiqueFuel 6 лет назад +1

      How do you deal with the anxiety of your heart beating faster when exercising and the feeling that you can t breathe during exercise? Basically how do you prevent yourself from panicking?

    • @humanityandme
      @humanityandme 5 лет назад +3

      The funny thing is that you began with explaining how horrible it is to go through your illness and then you told folks to not get bogged down by it, just reading that I can understand why people don't choose to soldier on the way you do. You sound like you're not allowing yourself the grace to be comfortable with the fragility of it.

    • @WazigeLogica
      @WazigeLogica 3 года назад +2

      I can't tell if your statement is some form of 'encouragement' or if you're actually trying to deny people the right to express their discomfort because ONLY YOU suffer the real deal in your world.
      Just because breaking your back is far worse than breaking your shin, does not mean you should just 'hop and skip' to the ER when you break your shin. That shin is uncomfortable too and it needs to be fixated and cared for, not just your broken back.
      I hope you don't deny your horse the rest it needs to recuperate from that maniac training you got going on there. And great that you found a way to deal with it. Meanwhile I am damn well complaining about my anxiety as well right here!
      Wish you well and may they find something that helps you soonest.

    • @unkownoflife5959
      @unkownoflife5959 3 года назад +1

      Ill pray for you in Jesus Christs name

  • @engineco.1494
    @engineco.1494 3 года назад +1

    In the fire service we say don't train till u get it right train till you can't get it wrong.

  • @slimehex20
    @slimehex20 4 месяца назад

    Thankyou Jocko!

  • @aroundthecornerford4006
    @aroundthecornerford4006 5 лет назад +7

    Don't Fear lol, be the fear... Be BATMAN!!! LOL

  • @cmdctrl4292
    @cmdctrl4292 7 лет назад +5

    Hmm I never got butterflies in martial arts competition or even hard sparing but I can get into a heated argument online or especially in real life and my hands will start shaking as the Adrenalin builds.
    I just watched Dustin Poirier vs Jim Miller and I could tell that Poirier had an insane amount of Adrenalin as he was shaking too and trying like hell to take a breath and calm it down but honestly I haven't been in a fight since middle school so as an adult (31) i don't know if Adrenalin is on my side or if its something that will cause me to lose.

  • @dnsps
    @dnsps 4 года назад +11

    Nothing happens unless you step out of your comfort zone.

  • @hekkenschutz
    @hekkenschutz 7 лет назад +5

    Danke

  • @AmandeepSingh-hc9ep
    @AmandeepSingh-hc9ep 3 года назад +3

    What if I have a fight or flight response during an intimate moment? I have this bad memory from when I was 10. I didn't think of it much until recently. I am 21 now and it haunts me like crazy.

  • @videnz2664
    @videnz2664 2 года назад +1

    You control yourself by controling the enviorment thats the key... try to be happy if everything around you is shit... ya not that easy right? thats why you have to control your outside to control yourself.

  • @ptadisbander7959
    @ptadisbander7959 7 лет назад

    Sick advice. Be mindful. Gotta push.

  • @krombopulosmichael2676
    @krombopulosmichael2676 7 лет назад +3

    Thanks Jocko

  • @raplich8816
    @raplich8816 5 лет назад +2

    I got that response while being robbed by 2 peoples with a knife. I was fucking paralyzed and couldn't think straight in that situation. So annoying.

    • @Monkeyman888x
      @Monkeyman888x 3 года назад +1

      I had a similar experience like 2 weeks ago but a guy kicked in the door of a friend and he told us he had a gun. The moment we heard that we couldnt do anything even though he probably was lying.

  • @gking407
    @gking407 6 лет назад +1

    Deceptively great advice here.

  • @Atrael
    @Atrael 2 года назад +5

    The fight or flight response give an incredible speed and strength boost but it makes you feel very scared but this special ability is very useful for humans because their defense and health is incredibly awful compared to other animal units. I hope God doesn't nerf this ability

    • @Claire_Fundemental
      @Claire_Fundemental 2 года назад

      God shuts down the servers

    • @pax9930
      @pax9930 Год назад

      While I am boxing it doesn't fucking activate when I am in the ring everything just stops I stop worrying

    • @Atrael
      @Atrael Год назад

      @@pax9930 you should try to get scared so you can activate it and level it up in use

    • @pax9930
      @pax9930 Год назад

      @@Atrael yes that's what I am trying Everytime but it stops I don't get scared or feel frightened, but before the fight you best believe I am nervous and scared I love that feeling and the adrenaline boost

    • @catgaming8486
      @catgaming8486 Год назад +1

      "I love that hedgehog" - hungry red egg

  • @solarpoweredafricanvegansp178
    @solarpoweredafricanvegansp178 2 года назад

    Awareness is key

  • @ooglymoogly7
    @ooglymoogly7 2 года назад +2

    i love that hedgehog

  • @Compton2952
    @Compton2952 7 лет назад +3

    Mr. Jocko, Do you think maybe you and Mr. Echo can get Don Shipley on the podcast. Thank you

  • @fizzend1120
    @fizzend1120 3 года назад

    I’m at the rock climbing gym rn I’m trying to “get into my fighter flight mindset”

  • @toasternfriends3329
    @toasternfriends3329 Год назад

    I'm not sure parachuting works to overcome fear of heights. I'm terrified of heights to the point where I can activate an adrenal response simply by thinking about it, but I've never once experienced that same response while skydiving or landing under canopy.

  • @dani-bossi9345
    @dani-bossi9345 Год назад

    Was walking my dog recently, when my dog sees another dog he instantly wants to go and say hi, this other dog owner had 2 big Caine corso dogs who were extremely aggressive, tried to attack my dog, he then yelled at me to get my dog as if my dog was the problem, he carried on shouting a bunch of things, things like I will break your jaw, if I let my dog off the lead your dog is dead etc, I then felt this massive adrenaline dump come over me, for some reason I apologised to try and deescalate the situation, it didn’t work, I then said to which I regret now, why don’t you put your dogs inside and I’ll put my dog inside and then we can talk, he then went even crazier, walked over to me with his 2 big screaming dogs, my dog is now nervous and scared, so am I to be honest, I had no choice but to take it on the chin and apologise again and walk away slowly, this happened earlier and I can’t stop thinking about it, I hope I don’t bump into him again on his own, he’s most likely not going to keep his mouth shut, I honestly don’t want any problems with anyone, but I have the right to defend myself.

    • @Mark-l7c4g
      @Mark-l7c4g 18 дней назад

      I hope you read this comment. Firstly, I know how you feel and I hope you didn't see that guy again. I had a recent incident where I was sitting in a doctor's waiting room and I had this paranoid feeling before I even left the house. I went to sit on the chair and there was this psycho looking guy sitting opposite me, and I had a bad feeling as soon as I passed him to sit down. The whole time I was sitting there, he was staring at me with bad intentions. He was looking at me like he wanted to seriously harm me, and just obviously didn't like the look of me. Not once did he take his eyes off me, even though I looked away several times. He was utterly fixated on me. I ended up getting so paranoid I just left the waiting room and missed my appointment, and looked back to see if he was following me.
      I'm not a fighter either. I want trouble with nobody, but some people out there just can't leave others in peace. I need to learn boxing or BJJ, but due to mental health issues, I have trouble keeping consistency. Even though all the guy did was eyeball me, I thought about it for weeks and the incident made me extremely anxious. I've had random incidents like that before, where people have taken a random disliking to me and I've felt in serious danger. It fucking sucks. o

  • @YTSH0RTMEME3
    @YTSH0RTMEME3 Год назад +3

    This adrenaline has a higher chance of killing me rather than the actual problem 🗿 I swear I'd have a heart attack one day

  • @titaniummaster1532
    @titaniummaster1532 Год назад

    Stay and fight or run and fight. Now days people are being told to hide or run and hide which could pit you in the position of limited opportunities. The “hide” choice go’s hand in hand with the I am lacking and this is all I can do victim mentality. Stand your ground or flee and fight on the go….

  • @jorgerodriguez3392
    @jorgerodriguez3392 2 года назад

    What about engaging in a confrontation where you are outnumbered

  • @Forthood1
    @Forthood1 7 лет назад +2

    The Boss

  • @Alex00789
    @Alex00789 6 лет назад +1

    There is fight, flight and freeze.

  • @annetteivey
    @annetteivey Год назад

    So my fight or flight when others cross boundaries

  • @mysteriousman4966
    @mysteriousman4966 3 года назад

    I just except it every time I can die so I go with the thinking that I am might probably die and that’s OK.

  • @jl6086
    @jl6086 Год назад

    Got get used to the feeling once get used it you actuslly might like it

  • @MrSilus2000
    @MrSilus2000 3 года назад

    The right response is neither fight or flight. The correct response is to not respond at all. Like Bruce Lee said...it hits all by itself.

  • @TheCriticalSigma
    @TheCriticalSigma 6 месяцев назад

    Control your breath is one tactic.

  • @Roger-fw2lq
    @Roger-fw2lq 6 лет назад

    #JockoforPresident

  • @heltoncarvalho9786
    @heltoncarvalho9786 Месяц назад

    Practice bridges Flight to Fight.

  • @mr.neon9422
    @mr.neon9422 Год назад +1

    Starve got me like

  • @400hpmustang
    @400hpmustang 4 года назад

    Get used to taking punches, absorb hits, jump from a plane, go outside your comfort zone.

  • @_MrLee
    @_MrLee 2 месяца назад

    If you want to have a grip on Fight or Flight join the Military... PTSD will give you the fight of flight response

  • @dwaynesmith2470
    @dwaynesmith2470 4 года назад +1

    Control fight or flight by BREATHING! plain and simple

  • @shantahsieh432
    @shantahsieh432 3 года назад

    Have you tried treating yourself with Weedborn CBD products?

  • @michaela6147
    @michaela6147 Год назад

    Very basic advice. I would have thought you had something better

  • @uppercase5549
    @uppercase5549 3 года назад

    18 ppl should have used flight🏃‍♂️ ...got beat 👊🤜🦶up came back and hit dislike 🌹