I personally think that Geo and Cole are just really good friends. I think we should normalize really good friendships between two dudes without making it romantic
A hot take is im kinda happy about pixal not being back in the picture yet , i hope for pixal to come back when zane gets a focus arc in dragon rising instead of just randomly
I agree with Jay has enough screentime because there are many other things happening when he comes back he should have enough time to really shine.(but I still miss him)
Also, where the heck did the Wolf guys even COME from?! The Shadow Dojo was deserted when Ras and Jordana arrived there, and then they just spawn in off screen and appear when Cinder fights Arin and Sora
When they bring Jay back, I really hope they "fix" his character. Like, Jay was one of the best characters in season 1-6, but since season 8 Jay has just got more annoying, childish, and unfunny. So they should bring back old Jay.
I kind of theorize that Jay's loss of identity plotline is based off the fact that the character did somewhat lose his identity in the later seasons. If only he'd kept his character development from Skybound.
Gandalaria is funny and cool. It’s actually good that they made her a little lively to completely ruin the original impression of her as an “ancient being”
One problem of Dragons Rising, that is ignored by every youtuber, is bond between Lloyd and Sora. More correctly, its non-existance. They are supposed to be a team, but it feels like Arin is the only thing that keeps them together. And it wouldn't bother me if they didn't have so many parallels: abandoned childs, who grew up in toxic society, who were betrayed by friend/idol (Pythor and LaRow), who made a terrible mistake (serpentines/photacs), who have issues with parents, who inspired people on rebellion against tyranical ruler. Am I the only one who thinks so?
Please, I want more interactions with these two, I mean Nya is not a bad master for Sora but come on Lloyd found the two first, also she should interact with Wyldfire, she needs to interact with someone that is not Kai or his family
I see the the same thing with Geo and the FSM. Their similarities being: >Born of two races that hated each other. >left their place of birth to the avoid the conflict >made/found a new place to call home >have a happy family
I would want Jay to come back, but I'm hoping when he does. It isn't the same exact problem his character had in the recent seasons. I'm hoping it can be a restart to his character, and fix the gripes I had with him for a while. Like his childlike personality taking over, or having Nya constantly be a part of his character all the time. I feel like what they were doing with him is a breath of fresh air, he's finally having development and independence for once. We hardly see that
@@flafex8977 I agree he really should had died in Crystallized I really don’t know why Tommy didn’t do that but if Wu returns in Dragon’s Rising I might actually drop the series I really want the ninjas to mature and finally know that Wu is gone and he can’t come back also it would be good for Wu’s character that a thing he kept a secret killed him, and if Wu returns there’s no point for Lloyd to become the master.
There is a line that I love about Egalt but is in the spanish version( btw is in the lego official channel) where he says: Maybe the ninja did it good after all, he respects them now, hope we see more of him and Rontu
The relation between geo and Cole is a big thing in the community I think. Like yeah they could be gay they could be good friends but some people forget that it’s literally just a ship like all of the others. It’s fine to not ship it. The problem is the number of people who hate like HATE the ship and mainly because it’s gay. Like imma be honest I thought Cole was gay like in the beginning of ninjago. I mean the episode with his dad and when Cole is saying to him that he doesn’t want to be a singer was so gay coded
Yes lol, like, my 8 year old self was watching Ninjago and wondered why he saw and was inspired by Cole so much, 10 years later watching the show from the beginning I realized why, Cole has always been a bit gay
as someone who grew up with this show, watching people unironically go full on hysterical for no reason is sad and cringe. she ra depicted a gay relationship, and it was fine. voltron did, and it was fine, the owl house did, and guess what? shocker i know, but it was fine, Hell, ARTHUR DID, and it was fine. i fail to see the issue here. if you don't ship it, fine, but don't act a fool in public, like it's really embarrassing for both you and the fandom.
Honestly i dont ship geo X cole but seeing how geo remembered cole in s2 just made him look like he was crushing bad , what i hope for is that geo has a crush on cole but cole doesn’t like him back
Regarding the whole Cole Geo thing, I personally see it as more one sided on Geo's part. I'm sure Cole still cares about him and the others in a familial way, just a bit differently if you know what I mean. They're just a bunch of wholesome beans.
i really miss jay 😢 and ofc i want him back but i feel like it’s kinda good 👍🏻 that he is not showing up really quick because it will make people watch the new seasons coming out more and it will put more drama in ninjago. jay is my favourite ninja 💙 in my opinion and i miss him sooo much 😢 and i just can’t wait to see him reunite with the ninja🥷😃, but i think it’s a good idea they make everyone just soo excited for him to return 💙💙
This isn't dragon's rising or relevant but I think Zane should have been the main character in the fire chapter. It would fit with the ice chapter and would have made Zane's sacrifice and disappearance way more emotional. It would also fit with the visions which could have played a bigger role and we haven't had a Zane season since s3
Idrk if this is 100% true, but I’ve heard that Jay is turning evil next season and that next season will have a tournament or something. Based off of those two theories, I think it could be a really good opportunity to reintroduce Neuro (sorry if I spelled it wrong) back into the plot. Maybe he could fight in the tournament and help the ninja. The main reason I think bringing him back would be great because if the ninja find out Jay is evil, Neuro could read his mind. Neuro reading Jays mind could give us some more info about Jays life after the merge and could just give us more information about what has been happening with him in general. I literally thought of this while I was watching this video so idk if this makes a lot of sense. If u have a question feel free to ask. Edit: Also sorry for yapping so much
The team looks amazing now Jay is not something they need I hope he stays as a villain and slowly remove some ninja for the future team like Lloyd as the new Wu
@@Nick_The_Furry I think what they mean is with Jay gone there's more time for Kai and Nya's relationship as siblings to shine. It was more or less non-existent during the 11 minute era.
Ninjago is popular in many countries, the stunt of lgbtq will never happen in ninjago and should never have, it will get the show banned in those countries like russia and china and middle eastern countries, so why risking popularity just for some sh*t?
@@amedits2651 Still no, because theory makers of these countries will be aware of this and start complainig about it, and no again because not everything should be lgbtq,
I hate 'shipping' full stop. Just let things be. I cannot fathom why anyone would be happy that Jay is gone. One of the mains? What is wrong with these people? I've missed him.
I bet that Arin will be the elemental master of rotation, (how in the frickin' heck would he do object spinjitsu otherwise, if you really think about it) and if this turn out to be false, then that's just lazy writing in my opinion.
It's really crazy to me how people are really angry about Cole being gay, I mean homophobes have been around forever, but like, When I was younger, I watched Ninjago up until season 5, and Cole was always my favorite, during my Ninjago marathon with a friend of mine last year, the first thing we noticed It was like how Cole's entire development in the first seasons was easily relatable to LGBT people, I even thought there was already a consensus in the community that he was gay, I was surprised when I saw that a good part of the community couldn't imagine this or were even irritated by it
It’s simple if u have any brain cells u would know that in the first season they called eachother brothers 🤦🏻♂️ none of the main ninja are gay unless you support incest They all call themselves brothers their family. Not everything has to be gay
Agree. Whats crazy is that Cole was shipped with basically every character in the Ninjago Community for years now, the most popular being Kai x Cole, and nobody complained. "The show will get banned in some countr-" SO WHAT? Just because some countries haven't caught up on modern time and act homophobic means the show cant represent gay people? A lot of media started to represent gay people. We need to normalize it. Seriously.
I think it's absolutely hilarious that the most hated ninja has been given a combined total of only 2 minutes of screentime across 30 episodes. I say this as someone who likes Jay and is hopful for what they do with him in the latter half of DR S2.
12:03 im pretty sure he's talking about the fact that lloyd pays no respect to kai after he's replaced with one of the forbidden 5 at the end of part. I mean, lloyd does outwrite say that arrin helped the ninja win. You just lost kai it is not a win unless you don't care about him. Also another major complaint about the episode(in my opinion) is that wasn't kai's soul technically shattered therfore he should not be able to be replaced for one of the 5. Anoying but the lore does not clarify if the soul has to be completely shattered(like to the point of cinder). Clarification on that would be nice.
Another thing, is that i don't mind Geo x Cole specially, but actually find Geo boring and gave me so much indifference to care about him and his well being
Geo is sweet but yeah I agree. I don’t really see their dynamic, it’s kinda bland. I personally don’t ship Cole and Geo, I’m a Cole and Vania shipper all the way. But if they fleshed out the Geo and Cole more and not so one note, it would be ok
Alright. Let me run through all of these hot takes and see which ones I agree with, disagree with, or mixed on. 2:00 I agree with this. Jay getting only a couple of quick scenes is a great way to build up the whole Evil Jay storyline. 3:31 I agree. Cinder was a cool antagonist, but he does need a backstory to be fleshed out in the future. 4:31 I disagree with literally everything mentioned here. 6:29 I definitely disagree. I like Egalt. He’s a Dragon ninja master that knows Spinjitzu. What’s not to like about him. Also, him being a jerk is justified. He was a sickness plus one of his eyes got hit with a rock, so it makes sense why he acted like that. 7:36 Disagree. The whole reason why the Ninja went to learn Rising Dragon was to counter Shatterspin, so it objectively makes sense to give the villains access to Shatterspin early on. 8:15 I’m mixed. I don’t really care if Arin has an elemental power or not, so I don’t have any to say about this. 9:37 I disagree. I think it’s great that Ras took control of Nokt, it showcases how villainous Ras is. Also, Part 2 isn’t out yet, so the forbidden five will definitely get some kind of role at some point. 11:08 Agreed. I’ve been enjoying how Jordana has been handled so far, and I can’t wait to see what they do with her in part 2 whether she’s been possessed by the Forbidden five or not. 12:06 I’m mixed. I don’t really know what to say to this. 12:55 Disagree. I would rather have DR S3.
Here’s a hot take. I understand that they made a characters the way they are, but the conflicted thing is still about Jay since and wu and Misako and pixel how would they be involved and will cole and Zane learn the ancient dragon technique as well?
I'm glad Wu is out of the picture, I'm sure he isn't dead, and we see flashbacks of him, but not seeing him in the present gives me joy we don't have to see his old ass again until they eventually do a reunion scene (unless dragons rising does plan to kill him off for real this time then thats fine too)
I get what the person who said Arin could have a power and still be special but I believe if you think this you don’t get what makes Arin charming his charm is that he doesn’t have powers but he can fight on the same ground as Lloyd or Kai.
I'll only agree with jays hot take if they give him the screen time hi deserves and handle his story well. If he only appears in episode 20 I wpnt ve pleased and hate it.
Even though I don't think that there is 100% ship in the show. Cole-Geo is a bad relationship, this doesn't have to do with society or any of this freedom shit. Such things shouldn't be included in a Lego kids show. He's literally having a relationship with a munce-geckle dude.
I don’t think that arin getting an element would lessen his importance but it would lessen his individuality, he’s the powerless ninja and giving him an element would squander that and make him less unique.
I like the Cole and Geo ship, there's nothing wrong with being gay but that's just my opinion, I enjoyed Cinder in DR Season 2 Part 1 and Arin doesn't need an elemental power at all.
Me I think jay will rejoin the team and get his memories back in season 2 part 2 or season 3 The 4 finders will become Cole’s ninja students Arin will master regular spinjitzu his object spinjitzu and the rising dragon before he learns what sora did
The Jay take is the BEST take. Cinder is a good character too. Definitely dialed down throughout the part but the interactions show just how power hungry he is I enjoy Egalt as well, though it is difficult to listen to him, mainly just with Arin interactions. Ans I don’t think there’s anything to Cole and Geo in that sense either. They’re definitely just good friends to say the least, and we know how Cole’s character is.
Since his Ninjago Movie remake, I have taken a disliking to Jay, probably because he has lost his sense of humour and, in general, his personality. As a result, his lack of screen time and his disappearance in the show has not really bothered me much as I feel that other characters seem to be taking centre stage with good character development (e.g. Kai and Lloyd).
Tanner nobody gives a fuck if it’s 2024, Cole has literally never given off any hint about him being gay. He literally liked vania like 2 seasons ago. He’s not gay, he’s not bisexual, he’s straight, like he’s ALWAYS been.
Pretty much Cole's entire arc in the first 2 seasons could EASILY be seen as a gay allegory, heck, my 13 year old self could see that when I was watching it on TV
Dude imagine seeing your friend as a villain after 5 years of not seeing him. İt'll be craaaaaazy
I personally think that Geo and Cole are just really good friends. I think we should normalize really good friendships between two dudes without making it romantic
Ye i agree.....not like it wasn't something normal before? Like what you can't have friends anymore or something
Thats the problem with this fandom, they ship any two characters interact with each other even if there is no romance between them
@@KingBoye-y9x That's why I'm so glad Sora and Arin are still friends and they haven't become a thing. Like, I do ship them, but as friends.
U know at first people shipped them as a COUPLE until the writer said its like bro sis relationship which i think is better imo
@@KingBoye-y9x Oh. I always shipped them as friends
I mean I don’t want Jay to be gone forever, but I don’t want him to immediately return to the ninja like Nya did in Crystalized.
fr i didnt like that and i didnt like that she also kind of got her powers back so quickly
It would be nice to be the main villan for season 3
@@dragonwarior778 it's been years since she lost her powers, it took kai months to get his back
A hot take is im kinda happy about pixal not being back in the picture yet , i hope for pixal to come back when zane gets a focus arc in dragon rising instead of just randomly
Or maybe if she returns it will cause Zane to regain his human side!
@@klondikeoftiptoncreek1909 or maybe she will become in his mind like she used to be in season 4 to whatever
@@dragonwarior778 that would be really cool! I hope that she returns!
I agree with Jay has enough screentime because there are many other things happening when he comes back he should have enough time to really shine.(but I still miss him)
Why would anyone want Jay gone!?
But yes i thinking they are handling Jay's story well, dropping hints is very cool when you think about it!
OK I actually love how gandalaria is a hippie, she's got some really good comedic timing
I agree with you she great
Jay is going to remeber himself life when Zane got his true potentional
Its zane not zain
@@AnjeRosales-ep1fe thanks for correcting my spelling error
Also, where the heck did the Wolf guys even COME from?! The Shadow Dojo was deserted when Ras and Jordana arrived there, and then they just spawn in off screen and appear when Cinder fights Arin and Sora
fr thats what im saying
maybe they came through that thing with cinder?
@@BoredTwo what thing?
@@cjbricks422 i kinda forgot what it was but when he was revealed
@@BoredTwo he entered the dojo with his smoke power
When they bring Jay back, I really hope they "fix" his character. Like, Jay was one of the best characters in season 1-6, but since season 8 Jay has just got more annoying, childish, and unfunny. So they should bring back old Jay.
I kind of theorize that Jay's loss of identity plotline is based off the fact that the character did somewhat lose his identity in the later seasons.
If only he'd kept his character development from Skybound.
Gandalaria is funny and cool. It’s actually good that they made her a little lively to completely ruin the original impression of her as an “ancient being”
Cole should think about vania, the time she brought her whole army for him. It would be so sad if cole like geo more than vania 😢
Fr
Vânia literally never showed romantic interest in Cole, they were never more than friend
@@Mr.Vanims if you look closely you will see that vania is attracted to cole
Her "army" was like 4 duded tho
@@nitR0Lard_officialThe writers quite litteraly said on Twitter that Cole and Vania aren't a thing
What If Jay Dos Not Join The Ninja Team In Season 2 Part 2 And He Becomes The Main Villain For season 3
Bro actually is playing with rays fire
Writers confirmed it will be all about season 2 part 2.
@@Gonibot500is that a good thing or a bad thing
@@infinitylord1524 the best thing that could happen in season 3
@@Gonibot500 so we let them cool?!?!
No! I don’t want Jay gone!
Fr
Fr
hes not gone he just forgot all his memories
@@Jaso_n3 Ik
He’s not gone he’s just losing memories BUT PLS BRING HIM BACK😢
One problem of Dragons Rising, that is ignored by every youtuber, is bond between Lloyd and Sora. More correctly, its non-existance. They are supposed to be a team, but it feels like Arin is the only thing that keeps them together. And it wouldn't bother me if they didn't have so many parallels: abandoned childs, who grew up in toxic society, who were betrayed by friend/idol (Pythor and LaRow), who made a terrible mistake (serpentines/photacs), who have issues with parents, who inspired people on rebellion against tyranical ruler. Am I the only one who thinks so?
Ohhh good point
Please, I want more interactions with these two, I mean Nya is not a bad master for Sora but come on Lloyd found the two first, also she should interact with Wyldfire, she needs to interact with someone that is not Kai or his family
I see the the same thing with Geo and the FSM.
Their similarities being:
>Born of two races that hated each other.
>left their place of birth to the avoid the conflict
>made/found a new place to call home
>have a happy family
I would want Jay to come back, but I'm hoping when he does. It isn't the same exact problem his character had in the recent seasons. I'm hoping it can be a restart to his character, and fix the gripes I had with him for a while. Like his childlike personality taking over, or having Nya constantly be a part of his character all the time. I feel like what they were doing with him is a breath of fresh air, he's finally having development and independence for once. We hardly see that
I like Cole and geo as friends I never really thought about a ship
I think they should handle Jay slowly too.
But I‘m happy to see him back.
Wu should be brought back slowly too.
I wish that more nown charackters or even members of the will get a good story like Jay.
@@flafex8977 I hope they don’t bring back Wu ever he has no use in this series.
@@Bric_kproduction Yes but then he should have
died in crystallized.
@@flafex8977 I agree he really should had died in Crystallized I really don’t know why Tommy didn’t do that but if Wu returns in Dragon’s Rising I might actually drop the series I really want the ninjas to mature and finally know that Wu is gone and he can’t come back also it would be good for Wu’s character that a thing he kept a secret killed him, and if Wu returns there’s no point for Lloyd to become the master.
I really liked when Egalt commended the Ninja after Kai learned Rising Dragon technique. It showed some clear development in Egalt’s character
There is a line that I love about Egalt but is in the spanish version( btw is in the lego official channel) where he says: Maybe the ninja did it good after all, he respects them now, hope we see more of him and Rontu
I just wanna know how Arin isn’t having back problems after being throw on his back multiple times in part 2 and during his first encounter with Ras
*Season 2*
WE WANT JAY BACK!!! ITS NOT HE SAME WITHOUT HIM AND WE ALL GET SOOO EXCITED WHEN WE SEE JAY!!!!
Shut up give them time to build his arc stop hoping for something half fasted
@@jasonlefebvre837 ok ok I know but can we at least hope he is shown maybe at the end or maybe episode 18 or 19
@@jasonlefebvre837 you shut up you’re just saying shut up because you’re a hater of Jay
@@jjninjagojayvridk man he's spitting truth ☠️
@jasonlefebvre837 why are u mad over this comment bro
The relation between geo and Cole is a big thing in the community I think. Like yeah they could be gay they could be good friends but some people forget that it’s literally just a ship like all of the others. It’s fine to not ship it. The problem is the number of people who hate like HATE the ship and mainly because it’s gay. Like imma be honest I thought Cole was gay like in the beginning of ninjago. I mean the episode with his dad and when Cole is saying to him that he doesn’t want to be a singer was so gay coded
Yes lol, like, my 8 year old self was watching Ninjago and wondered why he saw and was inspired by Cole so much, 10 years later watching the show from the beginning I realized why, Cole has always been a bit gay
as someone who grew up with this show, watching people unironically go full on hysterical for no reason is sad and cringe. she ra depicted a gay relationship, and it was fine. voltron did, and it was fine, the owl house did, and guess what? shocker i know, but it was fine, Hell, ARTHUR DID, and it was fine. i fail to see the issue here. if you don't ship it, fine, but don't act a fool in public, like it's really embarrassing for both you and the fandom.
Team Zane and pixal 🍿
Hell naw
@@Clanzey wow
Honestly i dont ship geo X cole but seeing how geo remembered cole in s2 just made him look like he was crushing bad , what i hope for is that geo has a crush on cole but cole doesn’t like him back
Cole aime la reine Vania de Chintaro
@@gwenbonis2447Neither Cole nor Vania ever showed interest in each other.
For one I am NOT glad Jay is gone 😢
I WANT MY JAY BACK😤😤😤😤
You are jay tho
Regarding the whole Cole Geo thing, I personally see it as more one sided on Geo's part. I'm sure Cole still cares about him and the others in a familial way, just a bit differently if you know what I mean. They're just a bunch of wholesome beans.
i really miss jay 😢 and ofc i want him back but i feel like it’s kinda good 👍🏻 that he is not showing up really quick because it will make people watch the new seasons coming out more and it will put more drama in ninjago. jay is my favourite ninja 💙 in my opinion and i miss him sooo much 😢 and i just can’t wait to see him reunite with the ninja🥷😃, but i think it’s a good idea they make everyone just soo excited for him to return 💙💙
This isn't dragon's rising or relevant but I think Zane should have been the main character in the fire chapter. It would fit with the ice chapter and would have made Zane's sacrifice and disappearance way more emotional. It would also fit with the visions which could have played a bigger role and we haven't had a Zane season since s3
I miss my boi jaaay 😢
Idrk if this is 100% true, but I’ve heard that Jay is turning evil next season and that next season will have a tournament or something. Based off of those two theories, I think it could be a really good opportunity to reintroduce Neuro (sorry if I spelled it wrong) back into the plot. Maybe he could fight in the tournament and help the ninja. The main reason I think bringing him back would be great because if the ninja find out Jay is evil, Neuro could read his mind. Neuro reading Jays mind could give us some more info about Jays life after the merge and could just give us more information about what has been happening with him in general. I literally thought of this while I was watching this video so idk if this makes a lot of sense. If u have a question feel free to ask.
Edit: Also sorry for yapping so much
i hope Jay doesnt join the team, i hope he stays a villian
He is inevitably going to rejoin the ninja, but i reckon he'll stay as a villain for some time.
It would be cool if he stays a villain but he probably rejoin the team eventually
The team looks amazing now Jay is not something they need I hope he stays as a villain and slowly remove some ninja for the future team like Lloyd as the new Wu
1:20 I sure damn hope he ain’t *cough* *cough* g-g
Same
Jay going definitely helped Kai shine more
Bro is living in a fictional world if he thinks jay is helping kai shine more, the meat riding is crazy
Who is jay?
@@user-467wqij61 i hope this is a joke
@@Nick_The_Furry I think what they mean is with Jay gone there's more time for Kai and Nya's relationship as siblings to shine. It was more or less non-existent during the 11 minute era.
@@Nick_The_Furry bro is living in a fictional world if he can't understand basic English
Whatz a netflix series without gay couples ?
Ninjago is popular in many countries, the stunt of lgbtq will never happen in ninjago and should never have, it will get the show banned in those countries like russia and china and middle eastern countries, so why risking popularity just for some sh*t?
@@7mad211 As long as they just give hints...... And never make It official like Jay kissing Nya.... I don't think their is any problem
@@amedits2651
Still no, because theory makers of these countries will be aware of this and start complainig about it, and no again because not everything should be lgbtq,
@@7mad211 done hogaya ahmed bhai
I really miss jay a lot actually, I want him to come back and reunite with Nya and the others. Nya really misses him.
Hey man go easy on my boy Jay
I kind of wish that cole was the new master. I know why lloyd is but cole has been really mature especially recently.
I hate 'shipping' full stop. Just let things be. I cannot fathom why anyone would be happy that Jay is gone. One of the mains? What is wrong with these people? I've missed him.
I bet that Arin will be the elemental master of rotation, (how in the frickin' heck would he do object spinjitsu otherwise,
if you really think about it) and if this turn out to be false, then that's just lazy writing in my opinion.
It's really crazy to me how people are really angry about Cole being gay, I mean homophobes have been around forever, but like, When I was younger, I watched Ninjago up until season 5, and Cole was always my favorite, during my Ninjago marathon with a friend of mine last year, the first thing we noticed It was like how Cole's entire development in the first seasons was easily relatable to LGBT people, I even thought there was already a consensus in the community that he was gay, I was surprised when I saw that a good part of the community couldn't imagine this or were even irritated by it
It’s simple if u have any brain cells u would know that in the first season they called eachother brothers 🤦🏻♂️ none of the main ninja are gay unless you support incest They all call themselves brothers their family. Not everything has to be gay
Agree. Whats crazy is that Cole was shipped with basically every character in the Ninjago Community for years now, the most popular being Kai x Cole, and nobody complained.
"The show will get banned in some countr-" SO WHAT? Just because some countries haven't caught up on modern time and act homophobic means the show cant represent gay people?
A lot of media started to represent gay people. We need to normalize it. Seriously.
exactly. as someone who grew up with this show. it's embarrassing to see the fandom behave this way.
@@NathanGonzalez-yi9wj what having brother has with being gay?
"It's 2024 guys?..."
-So? We don't want it anyway bro.
Snowflake
Found someone being homophobic xD
@@MagicPotato06 yes I am proudly
I think it's absolutely hilarious that the most hated ninja has been given a combined total of only 2 minutes of screentime across 30 episodes.
I say this as someone who likes Jay and is hopful for what they do with him in the latter half of DR S2.
Wait he is the most hatted ninja? What about kai/Lloyd haters? Surprisingly the only ninja i never saw hate for was Zane
@@nicolas._.2294i hope you realize that kai is the most loved jay and lloyd are the most hated
@@user-467wqij61Jay is not the most hated. He is one of the most popular ninja.
@@poseidon2363Exactly
Jay is my favorite ninja
12:03 im pretty sure he's talking about the fact that lloyd pays no respect to kai after he's replaced with one of the forbidden 5 at the end of part. I mean, lloyd does outwrite say that arrin helped the ninja win. You just lost kai it is not a win unless you don't care about him. Also another major complaint about the episode(in my opinion) is that wasn't kai's soul technically shattered therfore he should not be able to be replaced for one of the 5. Anoying but the lore does not clarify if the soul has to be completely shattered(like to the point of cinder). Clarification on that would be nice.
Another thing, is that i don't mind Geo x Cole specially, but actually find Geo boring and gave me so much indifference to care about him and his well being
Geo is sweet but yeah I agree. I don’t really see their dynamic, it’s kinda bland. I personally don’t ship Cole and Geo, I’m a Cole and Vania shipper all the way. But if they fleshed out the Geo and Cole more and not so one note, it would be ok
@@leahpaz64895 i don't ship them neither, but i don't mind them, and also i ship Vania and Cole :)
In a way, yes, because we need a good story for Jay
Alright. Let me run through all of these hot takes and see which ones I agree with, disagree with, or mixed on.
2:00 I agree with this. Jay getting only a couple of quick scenes is a great way to build up the whole Evil Jay storyline.
3:31 I agree. Cinder was a cool antagonist, but he does need a backstory to be fleshed out in the future.
4:31 I disagree with literally everything mentioned here.
6:29 I definitely disagree. I like Egalt. He’s a Dragon ninja master that knows Spinjitzu. What’s not to like about him. Also, him being a jerk is justified. He was a sickness plus one of his eyes got hit with a rock, so it makes sense why he acted like that.
7:36 Disagree. The whole reason why the Ninja went to learn Rising Dragon was to counter Shatterspin, so it objectively makes sense to give the villains access to Shatterspin early on.
8:15 I’m mixed. I don’t really care if Arin has an elemental power or not, so I don’t have any to say about this.
9:37 I disagree. I think it’s great that Ras took control of Nokt, it showcases how villainous Ras is. Also, Part 2 isn’t out yet, so the forbidden five will definitely get some kind of role at some point.
11:08 Agreed. I’ve been enjoying how Jordana has been handled so far, and I can’t wait to see what they do with her in part 2 whether she’s been possessed by the Forbidden five or not.
12:06 I’m mixed. I don’t really know what to say to this.
12:55 Disagree. I would rather have DR S3.
I agree with you’re opinion except for the Kai and Lloyd one
How dare you? As much as I’m normally patient for such video, my patience is not endless💢💢💢
jay is my fav... why would they do that?! 😭😭
Because he's the worst ninja, obviously
He’s the worst after redesign
@@Nick_The_Furryyou seriously think arin is better?💀
@roaarylion5214 nah I like the redesign more, I'm happy he doesn't have a fade.
@@Gurkistansoldat sometimes yeah
Just me or is Cole just a father to the finders (Geo,Fritz,spitz,and Bonzie)
I saw the title of this and I was like: ExUse MeEeeE HoW dArE YoU!
Here’s a hot take. I understand that they made a characters the way they are, but the conflicted thing is still about Jay since and wu and Misako and pixel how would they be involved and will cole and Zane learn the ancient dragon technique as well?
I can't even be mad at this, it's just hilarious 😂
4:31 is what I'm talking about
Bro called egalt strict Master Wu times a million😂😂😂
I'm glad Wu is out of the picture, I'm sure he isn't dead, and we see flashbacks of him, but not seeing him in the present gives me joy we don't have to see his old ass again until they eventually do a reunion scene (unless dragons rising does plan to kill him off for real this time then thats fine too)
4:16 what happened to ash?
Will there be onother ninjago movie?
My hot take is I'm glad Wu don't comeback. I'm just tired with his character for these 10 years already. Let the man die.
I get what the person who said Arin could have a power and still be special but I believe if you think this you don’t get what makes Arin charming his charm is that he doesn’t have powers but he can fight on the same ground as Lloyd or Kai.
But is the relationship between Cole and Gio official? And the true is that I don’t like that 😢
I want the forbidden 5 minifigures
I don't want Jay gone, Jordana are a good charater and Ninjago Movie 2.... no, I preferer DRS3
I thought the Galdoloria was a plot appropriate character. I also don’t think that she’s a hippie, I think she’s pretty cool.
Movie 2 is a great idea. Love it😂
They should make a movie between the crystallized to core / dragons rising merge time.
Cole should stick to cake and vaniya
Where is the hot take a about jay should stay gone???
Can you please teach me how to join the lego ambassador network 😅😢
I'll only agree with jays hot take if they give him the screen time hi deserves and handle his story well. If he only appears in episode 20 I wpnt ve pleased and hate it.
Do you think LEGO will make the episodes showing cinder’s backstory or even the forbidden 5
Who says first is a 5 years old
So you
Well.....i guess you're right @@Pinkandfriends1
Even though I don't think that there is 100% ship in the show.
Cole-Geo is a bad relationship, this doesn't have to do with society or any of this freedom shit. Such things shouldn't be included in a Lego kids show. He's literally having a relationship with a munce-geckle dude.
lol I call him a purple goblin
@@NinjagoFan_Vania lol 😂
I don’t think that arin getting an element would lessen his importance but it would lessen his individuality, he’s the powerless ninja and giving him an element would squander that and make him less unique.
I agree and this is what I was thinking but part of me kinda wants it to happen anyway but Ur right it would make his character meaningless
I like the Cole and Geo ship, there's nothing wrong with being gay but that's just my opinion, I enjoyed Cinder in DR Season 2 Part 1 and Arin doesn't need an elemental power at all.
Everything is wrong with being gay
Everything is wrong with being gay
Everything is wrong with being gay
Everything is wrong with being gay
@@Nick_The_FurrySay one bad thing about it that isn't related to religion
What it in s2 part 2 Arin unlocks his true potential like sora in season 1
I love you tanner
Me I think
jay will rejoin the team and get his memories back in season 2 part 2 or season 3
The 4 finders will become Cole’s ninja students
Arin will master regular spinjitzu his object spinjitzu and the rising dragon before he learns what sora did
4:39
Now this is what a hot take should be, something that is absolutely ridiculous only 1 Iike 50 people can get behind.
I hope Aaron does not get an elemental power
Geo and Cole are friends
Don't bring DEI into Ninjago and ruin it
snowflake
The Jay take is the BEST take.
Cinder is a good character too. Definitely dialed down throughout the part but the interactions show just how power hungry he is
I enjoy Egalt as well, though it is difficult to listen to him, mainly just with Arin interactions.
Ans I don’t think there’s anything to Cole and Geo in that sense either. They’re definitely just good friends to say the least, and we know how Cole’s character is.
The Title of the video 😭
1:26 I hate Cole’s family in dragons rising
And I hate dragons rising 2
Like same here that’s literally what i said to my sister and she agreed!
I hate all Dragon rising....I don't know, I like more the old seasons (Ninjago master of spintjitzu) and 1 or 3 from Ninjago
@@roll2743 true I don’t rlly like dragons rising 1 but it’s better than 2
Still both are bad and I hate wyldfyre
Nokt could be rusty from being banished for a long time
Ok you’re on thin ice now !
Cole and Geo are a good couple imo
Since his Ninjago Movie remake, I have taken a disliking to Jay, probably because he has lost his sense of humour and, in general, his personality. As a result, his lack of screen time and his disappearance in the show has not really bothered me much as I feel that other characters seem to be taking centre stage with good character development (e.g. Kai and Lloyd).
Super hot take: Cole, Geo, and vania in a polynogamous bisexual relationship
Nah bro, Vania is lesbian
Imo I think jay should come back to the good in s3 and ki returns from nether space in s3 or s4 as it would feel to rushed
Tanner nobody gives a fuck if it’s 2024, Cole has literally never given off any hint about him being gay. He literally liked vania like 2 seasons ago. He’s not gay, he’s not bisexual, he’s straight, like he’s ALWAYS been.
Hay go rewatch ninjago and pay close attention to Cole.
Pretty much Cole's entire arc in the first 2 seasons could EASILY be seen as a gay allegory, heck, my 13 year old self could see that when I was watching it on TV
Uh....no. The writers themself said that Cole and Vania AREN'T a thing, so dont use that argument.
Cool 😊 video
Lord Ras beat that guy because Lord Ras is him.😅
Why are you glas he is my fav
Storm ship
Lava ship
Greenflame ship
Droid ship
DragonJade ship
HotFlame ship
Grenflame....
Jays not gone he is evil and is gonna be unevil
Jay is My favorite ninja!!!!😢
The LEGO NINJAGO DRAGONS RISING movie
Fan Jay ⚡⚡⚡
What why sure jay is annoying but jay is perfect for nya
Dareth is the goat and dareth should be the green ninja
6:29 Fr bro Fr