Great video but i feel like the discussion is a little incomplete. What about titanium and steel? Both can be fairly light. Steel being on the more elastic side. Titanium being lighter than aluminum but as stiff
Titanium in competitive cycling has been obsoleted by carbon fiber. It used to be material of choice for lighter bike decades ago but nowadays it's a choice for nostalgic buffs with disposable money.
@@event4216 are you a competitive cyclist? probably not, and so isn't 99.9% of cyclists. So why should you buy a carbon bike, just to have to buy a new one every few years? Buy a titanium bike and you won't need a new one for the rest of your life.
@@ReaperCH90 I'm not a comp cyclist, so I'm OK with alu or steel frame, and alu rims. So are 99% of cyclists like me. As I said, titanium these days is obsolete in comp cycling and a money pit to rest of cyclists. Your statement "and you won't need a new one for the rest of your life" is quite vague as our bodies change so change our needs for a frame and titanium frame is a risky venture considering how finicky it is to weld. At least, I would buy it only from company which honors warranty as titanium frames may crack at welds and then I wouldn't want to be rejected because "you probably crashed it so we aren't replacing it". Regarding that "magical ride" qualities I believe a set of nice tires do more than titanium frame for a tiny fraction of price.
I'm a Surly fanboy so I'm riding steel but my Steamroller is running Aluminium wheels. My Krampus has 45mm carbon rims though. Love em both honestly. I know which one will hurt the least if/when they need replaced though haha
@FOADGang oh for sure, it's warrantied but I'm maybe too skeptical that I'll ever get things fufilled. Can't say anything until I need to and hope that day doesn't come haha
Imma keep riding my old as steel frame that was not supposed to be a fixed gear bike (it´s basically from a junk yard) but it´s kinda cool to make a 28" fixed gear out of a 26" mtb lol This was also an extremly cool way to get into fixed gear riding becuase building a fixed gear bike is much easier than most other bikes (unless youre like me and you have to modify your frame then it´s kind of a hassle but even that it´s totally doable) it was also cheap especially when you consider that I was able to get some decent quality wheels that I could carry over to another frame if I wanted to. Well and money is kind of an issue as a student especially when youre like me and you already own a couple bikes and go bikepacking and stuff like that it gets expensive very quickly. Anyhow go build your own bike it´s so cool to keep fixing it and getting it to a state were it´s start being reliable and you know every bolt, every bearing and every spacer on your bike
Got a question What bike would you recommend for my first fixie? I’ve been riding BMX bikes but would like to switch over. I’ve been eyeing the state bike Label v3
I'm new to fixed gear but my wheel broke so I order one in shoope but I order a 700x28c tyre but my tube is 700x23c is it okay if I put a 700x28c tyre to tube that is 700x23c?
Aluminum is eternally recyclable, which I like. Carbon can be stronger than metal when woven correctly, and lighter AF which is an obvious benefit. I’d say both are purpose designed and beneficial in specific circumstances. All that being said, #steelisreal 😁🤙
Hi I'm rain I'm 16 years old I'm from the Philippines thank you, you have inspired me to ride fixies and try to learn tricks ( I haven't learned any tricks yet but I am trying) but recently my frame has gain a really bad misalignment to the point that my back wheel is hitting the frame giving a fact that my bike only cost 3,800peso which is around $64 in dollars so it's kind super low end and I can't buy a new bike because my family is not very wealthy to the point we just have enough to eat 3times a day sometimes and added that I'm just a student who is flat out broke I'm leaving this message because if u can pls help get fixie any type of fixie will do just something I could use to ride to school and so on and because when time's get hard the only thing I got on my side is my bike I wish I could get bike pls u won't probably read this but I'm grateful for everything and your content your video has helped me when I feel down u given me the greatest inspiration to ride my bike.
For fixed I like steel with some nice bendy Velocity A23s and tubeless. You will get strong from riding fixed anyway so the speed will come, might as well have a comfortable compliant bike. If you want to go fast for real, might as well just become a roadie with full carbon everything and skinsuit.
Aluminium is much *less* stiff than steel. But it fatigues more so if you want to live you need to use large diameters and thick walls for stiffness, and it still ends up lighter.
Not only does GCN say "Aluminium" instead of Aluminum.. Ollie of GCN explained why his pronunciation is the only real ..and RIGHT one !! "Aluminum" isn't right ... Sorry to shatter your world.. But the Material named "Aluminium" 🤷🏻♂️ I worked as a Metal Builder and learned really a Ton in my job !! And if you seriously work with metal , your "Aluminum" does not exist 😂 Its just WRONG 🤷🏻♂️
Im tryna get back into a fgfs so i can ride to work it’s not to far I miss riding in high school it was so sick I was a good friend of the destroy bikes guys im from the Bay Area🫡 im tryna get back into a 26”
Which are you going for? Aluminum or Carbon?
Alu with full carbon fork
titanium with carbon fork
Steel 😎
Cromoly bars,Cromoly forks
steel
Steel
It’s real!
My next Frame will be Steel again ! Definitely!
Great video but i feel like the discussion is a little incomplete. What about titanium and steel? Both can be fairly light. Steel being on the more elastic side. Titanium being lighter than aluminum but as stiff
Yes there are lots of exciting materials to explore! Haven’t had a chance to experience titanium myself.
Titanium in competitive cycling has been obsoleted by carbon fiber. It used to be material of choice for lighter bike decades ago but nowadays it's a choice for nostalgic buffs with disposable money.
@@event4216 are you a competitive cyclist? probably not, and so isn't 99.9% of cyclists. So why should you buy a carbon bike, just to have to buy a new one every few years? Buy a titanium bike and you won't need a new one for the rest of your life.
@@ReaperCH90 I'm not a comp cyclist, so I'm OK with alu or steel frame, and alu rims. So are 99% of cyclists like me. As I said, titanium these days is obsolete in comp cycling and a money pit to rest of cyclists.
Your statement "and you won't need a new one for the rest of your life" is quite vague as our bodies change so change our needs for a frame and titanium frame is a risky venture considering how finicky it is to weld. At least, I would buy it only from company which honors warranty as titanium frames may crack at welds and then I wouldn't want to be rejected because "you probably crashed it so we aren't replacing it". Regarding that "magical ride" qualities I believe a set of nice tires do more than titanium frame for a tiny fraction of price.
Video quality is insane! Watching your videos for ages and its so cool to see progress
I appreciate that! Thank you very much!
Good to see you back! Most of aluminium frames come with a carbon fork. So to answer your question : both...
Great point!
Aluminium or steel on everything, MTB, gravel, road, fixed gear. The tolerance levels are quite great and they are affordable.
Great point! Love to see the bike industry embrace these materials more.
I'm a Surly fanboy so I'm riding steel but my Steamroller is running Aluminium wheels. My Krampus has 45mm carbon rims though. Love em both honestly. I know which one will hurt the least if/when they need replaced though haha
Steamroller is all time! It seems like a lot of carbon rims come with lifetime warranties?m
@FOADGang oh for sure, it's warrantied but I'm maybe too skeptical that I'll ever get things fufilled. Can't say anything until I need to and hope that day doesn't come haha
That Bareknuckle is one of the all time great bikes.
4.5k km with my 1800 classics. Still true as a new. Worth every penny although they were just 300 euros.
Imma keep riding my old as steel frame that was not supposed to be a fixed gear bike (it´s basically from a junk yard) but it´s kinda cool to make a 28" fixed gear out of a 26" mtb lol
This was also an extremly cool way to get into fixed gear riding becuase building a fixed gear bike is much easier than most other bikes (unless youre like me and you have to modify your frame then it´s kind of a hassle but even that it´s totally doable) it was also cheap especially when you consider that I was able to get some decent quality wheels that I could carry over to another frame if I wanted to. Well and money is kind of an issue as a student especially when youre like me and you already own a couple bikes and go bikepacking and stuff like that it gets expensive very quickly.
Anyhow go build your own bike it´s so cool to keep fixing it and getting it to a state were it´s start being reliable and you know every bolt, every bearing and every spacer on your bike
dt swiss sponsorship sheesh nice!
I was thinking the same thing!
Thank you! Very stoked about to ride the wheels!
Thanks!
Thank you very much Tim! 😊
I also just picked up a Nishiki Alien!
Hell yeah! Such a weird frame!
Got a question
What bike would you recommend for my first fixie? I’ve been riding BMX bikes but would like to switch over. I’ve been eyeing the state bike Label v3
State is a great affordable option!
I'm new to fixed gear but my wheel broke so I order one in shoope but I order a 700x28c tyre but my tube is 700x23c is it okay if I put a 700x28c tyre to tube that is 700x23c?
That’s a small enough difference you should be okay
What bars are those?
Those are the exact same wheels that I have been eye ballin. Is the rear hub single side fixed?
The carbon wheelset has one sided fixed driver, while the alu set is fixed/fixed.
@@FOADGang Thanks!
My commuter fixed gear is made of the material: as-cheap-as-posible.
Aluminum is eternally recyclable, which I like. Carbon can be stronger than metal when woven correctly, and lighter AF which is an obvious benefit. I’d say both are purpose designed and beneficial in specific circumstances.
All that being said, #steelisreal 😁🤙
Hi I'm rain I'm 16 years old I'm from the Philippines thank you, you have inspired me to ride fixies and try to learn tricks ( I haven't learned any tricks yet but I am trying) but recently my frame has gain a really bad misalignment to the point that my back wheel is hitting the frame giving a fact that my bike only cost 3,800peso which is around $64 in dollars so it's kind super low end and I can't buy a new bike because my family is not very wealthy to the point we just have enough to eat 3times a day sometimes and added that I'm just a student who is flat out broke I'm leaving this message because if u can pls help get fixie any type of fixie will do just something I could use to ride to school and so on and because when time's get hard the only thing I got on my side is my bike I wish I could get bike pls u won't probably read this but I'm grateful for everything and your content your video has helped me when I feel down u given me the greatest inspiration to ride my bike.
My favorite part of this video is how nice your hair looks.
Making me blush Garrin
How bout steel frame with carbon parts?
For fixed I like steel with some nice bendy Velocity A23s and tubeless. You will get strong from riding fixed anyway so the speed will come, might as well have a comfortable compliant bike. If you want to go fast for real, might as well just become a roadie with full carbon everything and skinsuit.
Wheels are sick!
Aluminium is much *less* stiff than steel. But it fatigues more so if you want to live you need to use large diameters and thick walls for stiffness, and it still ends up lighter.
Love the look of oversized tubes!
Big speed guy!!
Steel and aluminium frames in this household, aluminium parts on either bike though.
Tried and true!
As long as nobody pays me to cycle: Alu. But eventually I wil buy a hardtail titanium bike. this will also be my last mountainbike.
Awesome! Always wanted to try Ti!
aluminum gang
What makes the difference for you?
Titanium gang!
..money saving over wheight saving..🤗
Aluminium 🫵🏼👍🏼 carbon 👌🏼
Both are pretty great. Best time to be a cyclist!
Steel. Steel is better
All steel components wouldn't work very well, but I do agree it's a great frame material!
@FOADGang yup, I just love building aluminum off of a steel frame and fork. For me steel is always the answer for frame and fork
how about steel😁
chromoly
steel is real 😇
i said what about steel? my wife said, yea and titanium!
Both great materials!
Out of topic but why he look so old at the first half of the video😢?
Cause I'm old!
🌀🌀🌀
🤘🤘🤘
Not only does GCN say "Aluminium" instead of Aluminum..
Ollie of GCN explained why his pronunciation is the only real ..and RIGHT one !!
"Aluminum" isn't right ...
Sorry to shatter your world..
But the Material named "Aluminium" 🤷🏻♂️
I worked as a Metal Builder and learned really a Ton in my job !!
And if you seriously work with metal , your "Aluminum" does not exist 😂
Its just WRONG 🤷🏻♂️
hahahahahah great comment
Chromoly every time lol. Steel frame purists will never not chime in
I love a steel frame!
i would never run carbon parts. oh wait my fork is carbon lol
It's hard to get around!
First please comment
You got it!
Im tryna get back into a fgfs so i can ride to work it’s not to far I miss riding in high school it was so sick I was a good friend of the destroy bikes guys im from the Bay Area🫡 im tryna get back into a 26”
"Aluminum is real" 😂
I prefer steel bikes🦾