Designing The Most Efficient Car In The World With Chris Anthony, CEO of Aptera - Episode 21
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Today I get a chance to sit down with Chris Anthony, Co-CEO of Aptera Motors, whose design philosophy is 100% centered around creating the world's most efficient car. Their most recent model reveal, Gamma, was well received at Fully Charged Live in September and has attracted industry players like Sandy Munro to their board.
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One of my buddies just ordered one of these cars. He's moving over from a Tesla Model 3. It'll be pretty cool seeing him driving it around our little town of 10,000. He will definitely stick among all the diesel farm trucks and full size SUV's we have all over town.
Mine is coming to a rural town in Southern Iowa.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *WHERE IS YOUR NEW APTERA BRUCE???*
*Where is your 2022 Paradigm Edition???*
Who's the bigger spammer Joe Scott or sander van der kammen?
@@chadthundercaulk1167 *I'm not selling anything, the truth is available free of charge.*
huh why? With that money you can invest in this beautiful company. Either you want to waste your money or wait for the burn scandal of this company and are playing it smart. Idk - but either way we'll see.
This is THE most impressive conversation of 2023. You will NOT be able to top it. Try as you might..
Ok...OK.... you could 1-up this convo by having another in 6 mo
@@EarthCreature. ...
Yeah he's gotta wrap it up for the year. This episode was just that good!
Hold on, I hope that’s not accurate.
First, I believe the conversation was in 2022. Secondly, the Aptera delta reveal I hope will eclipse this conversation.
Joe, I've always enjoyed your videos, and I've been a supporter of Aptera since 2020. So it is so good to see you two get together and talk. I met Chris at the FC show and besides being VERY busy, he took the time to answer my questions fully. I had also seen snippets of this video elsewhere and figured that I'd watch some of it, but ended up enjoying the whole hour+, while your conversation went all over the place (happily). Chris Anthony and Steve Fambro have worked to create the exact vehicle that I want to own. The Aptera will be super efficient, with a very low operating cost, but it will also be lightweight, nimble, and fun to drive. 2 seats and 3 wheels is not the best driving solution for everyone, but it looks to be ideal for me. Thanks for an enjoyable afternoon with your interesting show..again.
Refreshing to see someone who is a CEO and KNOWS what he's talking about, and not throwing sh*t at the wall and see what sticks...
He knows what he is talking about, the problem is nothing he says is ever true!
@@sandervanderkammen9230 oh, Elon, get back to twatter and finish the company already... I mean, the job.
I remember seeing you at that show! Thanks for coming, I've been trying to share stuff more thanks to your talk.
I love the Aptera idea, already pre-order one!
I like how the editing of expletives just faded away mid interview.
Great discussion, maybe next time you can talk about the vehicle. Just sayin… 🤷♂️
-Body composite composition.
-Battery technology/cell type.
-Motor type.. etc!!
Vaporware scams like Aptera can't give any specifications because they don't exist...
Looooved this! He’s so chill, this reminded me of a Joe Rohan podcast with the going off topic, so good! Hope to see another conversation with him, Joe..thank you!
I just watched another video and read several books on regenerative agriculture that says it is critical to have animals on the farm to sequester carbon by building soil. It has to be grass-fed beef raised on a regenerative agriculture farm, but that system is better for the earth than farms only growing plant-based food. Building back the soil that has been destroyed by industrial farming techniques is an opportunity pull carbon out of the air.
Massive feather in your cap Joe, great interview with a fascinating guy.
Hope these guys succeed, we need something like this.
From Einstein's papers I have read, I always assumed he was using light as a way to help explain his concepts... It never seemed like he considered light in a vacuum as the "speed limit of the universe" that so many physicists talk about.
Nothing has changed. The dude was wrong in saying that Einstein was wrong. Einstein has never been proved wrong in anything yet. Nothing in the universe has been proved yet to travel faster than light.
@@adimchionyenadum2962 Einstein himself admitted he was wrong about many things. One was his claim that black holes could never be observed.
This does not detract from his greatness.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *WHERE IS YOUR NEW APTERA BRUCE????*
@@n.brucenelson5920 *YOU ARE NO EINSTEIN IF YOU INVESTED IN APTERA*
@@sandervanderkammen9230 i just said. Einstein was wrong. By your logic you have admitted I was right all along. Thank you, but I think you were showing us all your level with that comment.
I have watched a part of this interview on Aptera Owners Club RUclips channel. So when I saw it again today, January 2 2023, I thought it was stale news given that Aptera Delta design was already out. Anyway I decided to take a look, sure I wasn't going to watch the whole 1 hour-11 minutes show. But guess what, I watched the whole show. I didn't know Chris Anthony was such a verse human being with so many diverse interests, from a computer geek to a vegan. From an holistic philosopher to quantum astrophysics. No wonder they built this unique vehicle which is more than a mere piece of technology. I now understand why Aptera is a philosophy with a lively soul, and that was why I was attracted to it from day one. Aptera is truly a Movement of the people. They will succeed where others have failed. Congrats Joe for this chat!
It seems to me that data driven manufacturing creates the ability for a company like Aptera to copy and paste their process into multiple locations, thus enabling their stated philosophy of micro-factories as opposed to giga-factories. So while they may only be able to make 20,000 cars a year in one location, if you multiply that across 100 locations, that adds up to 2 million cars a year. There are more than 500 cities in the world which have a minimum of 1 million inhabitants, and almost 1000 cities which have over 500,000 inhabitants. If you include the areas around those cities which also contain potential Aptera buyers, there is a lot of potential for Aptera to sell their vehicles all over the world. Even if only 1% of the world's population lives within say 100 miles of a city that assembles Apteras, that's 80 million people who are potential buyers of the Aptera.
This way of thinking is already on Aptera's horizon.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *WHERE IS YOUR NEW 2022 APTERA PARADIGM EDITION BRUCE???*
They should first be able to even start a production. But they are lacking money, experience and a roadworthy production prototype.
@@vic321344 This is same problem these guys have had for over 18 years yet they continue to take in millions of dollars from investors and produced nothing but false promises to start production.
They missed their lasted production deadline January 1st and there is still no pre production model yet.
If it smells like Bullshit? It is Bullshit
something exciting about the future? awesome. thanks, Joe. i think everyone needs this optimistic technology to look forward to. 🖤
It's very hard not to be completely impressed by Chris Anthony, he is all round grounded guy with his views energy foot print of foods for the masses, personal health, enthusiam for efficiency in every field it was refreshing to see him talk so openly here .
Its unfortunate as everything he says never turns out to be true..
Aptera has had yet again missed a hard deadline to begin delivery
The company operates exactly like vaporware investment scam
@sandervanderkammen9230 that is demonstrably untrue. This is no Nicola Badger. They have been building REAL prototypes, signing REAL supply contracts, and building an ACTUAL factory. They have been consistently moving toward production with full transparency in the process. If you think it's vaporware you have not been paying attention.
@@cali-electro-dad What do you call a "real" prototype? Nobody knows the data of the solar, no 600 mile version, no 1000 mile version existent.
The only thing you get from Aptera are promises, phanmtasies and renderings.
@@vic321344 I guess we'll see.
@@cali-electro-dad You are obviously a very gullible and naive person who is also very unfamiliar with this investment scam company.
Chris and Steve have been defruading its investors for over 18 years now.
They have taken millions of dollars and produced nothing but false promises.
Aptera missed another production deadline this month with no explanation or excuses.
Just finished.. this makes me more bullish on aptera…
What? You designed a vehicle to be efficient and practical and not to a lifestyle? Who'd a' thought?
I very much want this car. That said, I don't buy expensive things that don't exist yet, nor have a wide review. I would hate to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle whose tires mysteriously catch on fire in 0 degree weather or whose exterior melts under moonlight. I'm saving up now and I hope to put down money in a year or two or three (with expected delayed delivery). Hopefully the production model gets good reviews.
As a side note, please don't become another Apple by telling customers what they want (and being totally wrong sometimes). You may need to make a whole different model that handles snow better but drops efficiency 10-20%, or offer a different color for some reason. Of course telling you not to model yourself after the most successful company in the world is probably bad advice, but, as a former Apple user, I swear that company only exists because its customer base is a cult/religion.
Don't hold your breath waiting for Aptera, this company is nothing but one big 18 year vaporware investment scam.
Wow, great interview .
This is the best road trip car ever, I'll be sleeping in the back .
At the beginning you're talking about how the entire car has the same drag coefficient as a mirror on an F-150. That's not surprising.
Now, if the entire car had the same drag force as the mirror on an F-150, that would be very impressive. Maybe that's what you meant? But either way, a lot of people get caught up in drag coefficient and they forget that the word coefficient is in there. A huge car could have a very good drag coefficient, but that doesn't mean that it has less drag than a worse coefficient smaller car.
TigerDirect...there's a name I haven't heard in a while
I have a reservation for two of these! Hoping they continue to be successful. All the best to you and your family.
This is absolutely your best show .
Can't wait.
I'd prefer the 1000 mile version at launch but I'll go 400 full solar and 3wd. Very exciting
I would love for this project to become a reality, but I'm only counting the eggs after they've hatched. I'm getting serious Elio Motor vibes from this company.
If you looked closely at the two companies and their history you would see they are nothing alike. Elio was claiming a motor that didn't exist for an impossible price. Aptera has contracts with well known top automotive suppliers and already has the factory spaces.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *WHERE IS YOUR NEW APTERA BRUCE??? 2022 HAS ALREADY ENDED, WHERE IS YOUR NEW APTERA PARADIGM EDITION?*
Wow. Hostile zombie troll digital stalker Sander Van der Kammen makes his entrance. 😆😆😆
@@n.brucenelson5920 I thought Elio also had contracts with suppliers and factory space?
Half way through… this is good stuff. I hope they can figure out the manufacturing.
It was Joe who misunderstood or mis-spoke, not Chris. The Aptera has the same drag (force) as an F-150 side mirror. The math is straightforward.
Front, cross-sectional area of about 8 square feet times Cd 0.13 = 1.04 effective square feet. Side mirror of an F-150 Xtra cab or with tow package is probably around 1.4 square feet times Cd if 0.95 = 1.33 or 30% more drag. I don't know if this applies to the base model F-150's mirrors though. Anecdotally, I've never seen a base model, post 2000 F-150. Around here, they're all optioned out and jacked up.
I couldn't stop watching/listening to you two. Great show.
Interesting car, but on another note, come on guys ancient hunter gatherers did not eat once a day (when the hunt was successful). They ate many times a day whenever they found something to eat. And on the hunt they noshed - think pemican and bannock - they’re snacks not meals.
So forget three square meals a day and try three light meals a day, preferably that you have put the time into preparing yourself. This intermittent fasting trend is just somebody trying to sell you something: a product, an ideology, or just a fantasy of primordial masculinity. Take it from a diabetic with no agenda.
I've invested in solar for my electrical usage and batteries. I feel they all connect with each other to help each other. It's a more stable, decentralized system where you're in charge! (pun).
this company's better tahn others like teh EVs on teh stock market. It's too bad that there's no solar car on teh stock market, although there is electreon! Roads taht charge your car. These all work into each other - unlike oil that will leave you stranded at the end of the road! We can build roads out of solar panels if we want to - that's where teh 'solar recycling' can come in. It's just wehn you care for a solar panel it can practically last a lifetime you know?
It is funny you brought up fasting, I fast for 36 hours one cycle every month and eat 4 or 5 300 to 500 calorie mini meals during my day and almost no big meal.
yay aptera. I almost wanted to invest with them. I didn't like the structure, but if I had more money, who knows?
8:00 it's honestly not hard to do complex stuff if you build on top of your work - you're just a connector - taking what's not there and bringing it in. So you do things pretty much one step at a time.
Best interview of all time
CHRIS ANTHONY, how can you tell if he is lying??? HIS LIPS ARE MOVING!
Well, that went in a direction that one wouldn't have expected.
Yea even if gas was 10$ a gallon and me driving to and from work 2 hours total my $5000 car is much more economic.
Makes perfect sense to me if you drive to the office once a month, but work at home the rest of the time. An Aptera is not for you. Much better for it to be in the hands of someone who will put it to good use.
What an insanely great talk!
Great video!!!
My biggest concern is the width of the vehicle (wider than a F150-86”), my 71” Elantra gets squeezed by neighbors….peace
The biggest problem is Aptera is not a legitimate vehicle manufacturer, it's a long running investment scam.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Anyone who does due diligence will find that this is a false statement.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *FALSE STATEMENT????*
*LIKE WHEN YOU PROMISED THAT YOU WOULD TAKE DELIVERY OF YOUR 2022 PARADIGM EDITION LAST YEAR!!!!*
*BRUCE YOU ARE A FUQKIN LIAR!*
@@sandervanderkammen9230 My statements do not need bold caps to make them "look" more convincing. I did say that I was expecting delivery last year, but that was before the pre-orders reached the point that they couldn't be filled using vacuum resin molding. I never promised a time frame other than my expectation.
There should be little question that C.P.C. can deliver an even higher quality vehicle.
I also don't engage in name calling with clearly made up accounts.
the car looks very beautiful. i drew up something similar to this shape in 93 in college just because i like cars. the tear drop going to a tail is very pretty and separating the wheels from the main form is also really neat looking. if this car becomes cheap enough to buy ill buy one. love how it looks. if you want to know how the universe really works study consciousness and the human energy system.
Don't smoke weed, it rots your brains and makes you stupid.
Another great interview. I've got mine on order (around reservation number 12000) and so looking forward! I hope they get some sort of institutional and can kick production in gear before 2024.
Still wanting to know the name of that intro music :/
Thx Joe
Aptera's approach is the direction future EV design must go. Relative to rising battery material demand, high efficiency designs with solar-assist and smaller fast-charge battery packs will be required for an affordable EV that delivers good range and performance. Studies have shown that price is the main barrier to EV adoption. That's why an increasing pent-up demand is happening and the affordable Aptera will be right on time to supply that demand. I have reserved mine.
Unfortunately Aptera is not a legitimate vehicle manufacturer, it's an elaborate, long running vaporware investment scam.
Aptera has produced absolutely nothing in 18 years except false promises.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 ...a clearly false statement. My wife and I have ridden in a prototype as have other well known people, including Jay Leno. Aptera now has completed their production design and has contracts in place with major automotive suppliers.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *Quote from Aptera; **_"Our goal has not changed"_*
*_"Our goal is to begin deliveries to our earliest Paradigm Edition customers in 2022"_*
Great interview Joe, had me laughing with you many times, Thanks.
All the super ultra efficient concepts get wrekt by pretty much any requirement of comfort and practicality... my moms purse explodes that joke-craft.
I guess if we go down teh rabbit hole of 'how do you manage' - once you stop worrying about your personal life, you can focus on post-scarcity: building out whatever everyone else needs. Who did you leave behind as you climbed to the top? Those're the first you give a hand to! It's not about what we can't do, but what we can. I mean I could ask how do you manage so many youtube channels. You can ask me how I can type so many youtube comments. It's just that once we're setup we're ready to go - we build and then when we see more we keep building until we're finished. Then we look over it and see our accomplishments saying wow - and that's when we feel everything for a few seconds.
38:25 He says there's a little bit of downforce on the Aptera, but I would love to see the actual CL (coefficient of lift) figure, as I haven't seen it anywhere yet. All the focus has been on CD. I'm actually surprised as usually, the less separated aerodynamic flow (and the Aptera will have the least of any production vehicle), the more the tendency for there to be lift. Glad that the lift is negative. Not that I think this will be used as a high-speed machine, but it's good to know that it should be quite stable at speed.
I'm pro telecommuting, but if I have a car, it's solar. i would even buy portable batteries and solar panels to hasten the charge up time too! Carry your gas station iwth you! I invested in Beam Global at one time - they go hand-in-hand. The issue with solar is that the size needed is a lot, but we really don't need much electricity to get by surprisingly.
Did not even know this channel existed. Happened upon it by mistake. Clearly missed the announcement on Joe's main channel.
this guy feels like an offshoot of bob iger. Honestly so many are - he just starts the way and we help him build his mega empire. it's crazy how the person at the top of all the buying spree is just a nice person that wants well for the world. Having money, power, and forwardness doesn't make you a bad person. I believe it's good to have more money because we can help teh environment more. Money isn't a bad thing if you use it properly. I try to contribute to the iron man style - being knowledgeable enough to help out until you can and you get a lot done.
Try vegetarian Persian stews ( khorosh). It’s great with very little fat and protein, it’s served over long grain basmati rice.
17:53 I'm team 'coolest thing ever' - and want to help the company out so much. It's hard because I just don't have those means.
I can't imagine the cost of the wind shield, if it gets a crack. What about the insurance? Will insurance even try to cover it? What about having a shop changing the tires? They may not even try as they can't use a normal lift for it (I assume) or charge me a massive amount for the work.
I need to look deeper in the vehicle as it does interest me. But I have so many questions already >_
None of of these should be big issues. There are already 3 wheelers on the market that can be covered with insurance and due to the light weight, tires will be easy to change from the standard 16" wheels. Any independent shop is likely to be glad for the business. I have already spoken to my small independent shop in rural Iowa.
None of these should be big issues.. mainly because Aptera is a fake vaporware scam.
They are not a legitimate vehicle manufacturer just an investment scam.
*Ask Bruce about his 2022 Paradigm Edition Aptera?*
@@n.brucenelson5920 *WHERE IS YOUR NEW APTERA BRUCE?*
Cool! What is the towing capacity?
The first Apteras do not have a hitch built in. That may come, but it is likely to only be a few hundred pounds if it happens.
I just pre-ordered the Aptera *Sunfreighter Edition* it has a removable fifth wheel hitch and has a 78,000 lbs. towing capacity, air brakes and a 10 ply rear tire... I plan to use it for 40 foot trailers on long haul routes between Canada and Mexico
The only car I would sell my Tesla for.
Aptera is not real, it is nothing more than a fruadulent vaporware investment scam
You will sell your tesla against a motorcycle? The safest car in the world against a deathtrap? Darwin is winking.
XLNT job … what's you name again? 🤣
“I quit coke in college”
Nobody take this out of context.
I think the Aptera is a great idea, assuming we're going to all be able to driver personal vehicles under zero carbon. That's unlikely. Chris, please engage an independent company to help you compute a detailed LCA for your car, now. This is how we must actually assess sustainability of vehicles.
BTW, ebikes are ~4000 MPGe so an Aptera will never be the most efficient personal transportation. You're still trying to build a full sized car, because people don't yet see they will need to compromise much more to get to zero. I will concede that the Aptera gets closer to sustainable, and I recognize you are hopeful that these will be much more likely to stay on the road for decades than the overly complex EVs that are electrical failures waiting to happen. Please read Volvo's and Polestar's LCA reports. Everyone's busy comparing ICE to EVs and they're failing to recognize that no car will be viable under zero carbon. Anyone who says they will be, also takes it on faith that the failed strategy of Carbon Capture and Storage actually works. Electric trains & trolleys plus micromobility are the future of transportation. A 100 kWh Aptera is a really bad thing to call sustainable, because no one needs a 1000 mile range and carrying that massive battery on your light weight design is a serious efficiency penalty. It's not too late to unwind that goal.
Aptera has been a great way for Chris and Steve to -steal- I mean "make" money, this fruadulent vaporware investment scam has been running for over 18 years now.
sinclair is the jordan peterson of medicine 👀
Fluid dynamics can be a real drag, but I won't be surprised if new computer modelling results in products that make real shockwaves... B)
So, when you examine your Aptera after driving at highway speed through a swarm of love bugs you may think you're living the life of a Richard Bach character from his "Illusions" novel? Actually, the idea of reducing collateral damage to the general insect population by transportation does appeal to me greatly. Plus, I just don't like having to scrape off all the little carcasses. However, any chance you could tune the airflow to push mosquitos and yellow jackets under the wheels?
You know how to tell when Chris Anthony is lying?
*HIS LIPS ARE MOVING.*
lab grown meat good. me BUTTER, STEAK, COCONUT OIL and a little non sweet veggies.
and yes. eat lots once. or twice.
why is this not on the main channel?
❤️👍
Snow and Ice? Cold weather?
Yes, it will be a cold day in hell when Aptera starts production
I live in Iowa, and plan to use my Aptera year round. They recommend AWD for use in rough conditions, but I will report on the performance of my 2WD model.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *Plan to use???* *You promised that you would take delivery of your 2022 Paradigm Edition Aptera LAST YEAR!!!!*
@@n.brucenelson5920 *WHERE IS YOUR NEW APTERA BRUCE?*
It will be interesting to see how much of manufacturing moves to Mexico over the next 5 to 10 years and/or automated. I appreciate building in the US but it's simply expensive.
In Virginia motorcycles can use "express lanes" for free. That's about a $2500 ($10*50*5) a year savings depending on how far you drive plus the time savings.
What manufacturing? Aptera is nothing more than a fruadulent vaporware investment scam.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Do you have a link that explains this?
@@ScottOstr You don't actually believe that Aptera is real do you?
@@sandervanderkammen9230 You're trolling
I get it
Interesting conversation. I've often said nobody ever died of hunger; starvation, yes, but not from being hungry. It's not natural to have food to pick at the moment we feel a bit peckish, especially when we're often only two or three hours away from a major meal.
"I'm bleeding out of my ears..."... best line of the new year, so far.
Yeah Americas Cup technology is written all over this.
This has vaporware scam written all over it...
@@sandervanderkammen9230 this fake username has "paid shill" written all over it.
I am open about who I am and my history including that I am an early investor, an early preorder holder, and a volunteer brand ambassador.
Dr. Pepper Zero Sugar FTW!
It's an ingredient in my wine cooler recipe (for those who need a little bit of red wine in the morning for heart health).
During the last few years of my mom’s life, I could only visit once a week because my budget was that tight and it was an hour drive each way. Having an Aptera would’ve been a complete game changer. Freedom is right.
Aptera is a big vaporware scam
If I won the mega millions (which is now mega billons) - this is one of the first companies I'd put my money into obviously. I have other avenues - i want more 3d printed stuff too, etc.
So you discovered the way to make a million. Out of a billion.
@@vic321344 you mean a billion out of a million?
@@extropiantranshuman No, I mean it the way I wrote it.
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Disappointed that after 3 rounds of prototypes we still haven't seen any real world or even track efficiency test .
Even light-year did a track test which seemed far worse then their claims but comments were still filled with excited fanboys saying it's good for the test speed. Light-year didn't show a test at the standard speeds calculations are supposed to be based on, so we have no idea if those calculations were accurate or not.
Aptera should show us the standard test their range claims are based on and a 70mph highway speed test.
*18 years of Aptera making nothing but false promises.*
The Aptera aced the Moose test for handling and roll-over. The video is on Aptera's website.
Scam solar EV companies like Sono and Lightyear are already going bust... Aptera is nearing the end of its run... they cannot make more excuses before people start demanding their money back.
I wonder if these people as well as elon build there now car factorys at old abandoned mines sites and fix the land as they pump out ev cars left and right.
This should help them out because the government won't have problems with the building if theres no environmental damage going on you know just fixing old past environmental damage.
If I had the money I would buy this car and a tesla so if I need to load stuff up I can have the bigger ev option 😂.
I don’t understand why people don’t realise that the 1000 mile range car MUST have significantly less daily solar charge benefit than the 250 mile range model.
4* the batteries = 4* the weight= far less possibilities for solar to make a difference.
My advice would be to buy a model that suits your usage. Low mileage frequently? Buy the 250 range version. Need to do lots of long haul, then do 1000 range.
I suspect the vast majority will go the low end range or possibly a compromise next step up.
But only the low end will get near 40 a day when the sun is shining all day.
Theoretically the Regen braking should lessen the impact of the weight on range. With their claimed 700watts of solar most people would only average 20-30 miles of range parked outside without shade. 40miles is San Diego on a long summer day.
@@chadthundercaulk1167 Theoretically anyone gullible enough to believe that solar powered cars would be a practical consumer product is gullible and naive enough to invest in a vaporware scam that has never delivered a single working product to a customer in over 18 years.
32:20 - Yeah, sorry, you lost me at "We had to explain to NASA engineers what ground effect was."
I've had a preorder for an Aptera since day one, I've invested in them, but this interview makes me think this guy is a snake oil salesman.
NASA's wind tunnel engineers wouldn't go "OMG! HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY GET IT THIS AERODYNAMIC!‽‽" they've measured World Solar Challenge vehicles - which are even an order of magnitude more aerodynamic than the Aptera (but nowhere near "production vehicle" caliber.)
Dude, your vehicle is good enough, you don't need to exaggerate your engineering process accomplishments by calling NASA engineers dumb.
Agreed. I've been "following" Aptera and it is amazing how often the two co-ceo's, among others, attempt to build themselves up by tearing down others. They are particularly antagonistic towards, of all things, the solar race car community. It's rather odd in that there's so much they can freely learn from them.
Well, send this to NASA, and if they disagree with their claims, let them call them out for distortion. Who made you NASA's defendants?
@@adimchionyenadum2962 It's less about defending NASA and more about being skeptical of Chris Anthony.
@@AnonymousFreakYT Why should I be skeptical of him when he is making public statements that nobody has refuted yet.
@@adimchionyenadum2962 I'm refuting them. It isn't worth NASA's time and energy to correct this random engineer/EV-startup-guy. I'd say the burden is on Chris to prove that NASA actually declared his vehicle "the lowest Cd ground vehicle" and back up his claim that NASA engineers didn't know what ground effect is.
I like the idea. My concern is that extremely light weight and just 3 wheels provides considerably less traction. In San Diego that might not matter, but if you live in a more northern climate and have to drive in snow, or during a heavy downpour where hydroplaning is a concern, this car is simply not safe. I would love to see a second model that tries to be as efficient as possible within the constraints of bad weather performance.
I will be driving my Aptera year round in Iowa. My 1800 lb Gen 1 insight does better than many small 2 seaters in tough conditions and there is reason to believe that with proper tires Aptera will be better. Check out the Aptera ABS/Traction control. I will report on my actual experience.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *THATS WHAT YOU SAID LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE TOO!*
@@n.brucenelson5920 *WHERE IS YOUR NEW 2022 APTERA PARADIGM EDITION BRUCE???*
*WHY DO YOU POST THE SAME LIES YEAR AFTER YEAR??*
You'd have to take into account what causes traction problems to start with. Contrary to popular belief, wider tires don't always mean more traction, especially with hydroplaning.
@Aly Baly Having 3 wheels all with separate tracks increases the the resistance of the snow by 50% and reduces traction accordingly when compared to a 4 wheel vehicle with the same size tires.
It's all a moot point since Aptera is not a legitimate vehicle manufacturer and is nothing more than a fraudulent vaporware investment scam.
When will it ship!!!
NEVER! Aptera is Vaporware
The gating issue is now funding to create the tooling for C.P.C. Group' s presses. If that develops soon we could see the first ones ship this year.
@@n.brucenelson5920 *YOU LOOK LIKE FOOL RIGHT NOW BRUCE! WHERE IS YOUR NEW APTERA???*
drag coefficient do not depends on area/cross-section. As far as I remember, to calculate drag you multiply drag coefficient by area, so comparison of side mirror to a whole car is super misleading!
Chris doesn't have a clue what he is talking about... you can always tell when he is lying too... His lips are moving!
I'm still not convinced it's not vaporware. I'd love to be wrong, I'd buy one in a heart beat. But hell no on a preorder/reservation.
A pre order reservation only costs $100 to get in line.
Aptera pre-order fees go into escrow and are refundable at any time. We already know this occurs in practice.
*Aptera is a total vaporware scam*
Did the Aussie get banned for spam or just forget his login?
@@chadthundercaulk1167 He might be crazy but he is not stupid like rev. Bruce Nelson.
Not practical for my family. Their website says 25 cubic feet of storage, as if that's a selling point. Our Honda CRV has 39.3 cubic feet behind the second row and 76.5 cubic feet with the second row of seats folded. As much as I'd like to save the environment, I need to fit wood from Home Depot, plants and soil for gardening, 4-5 people, camping and sporting equipment, etc. Also, the cost. I know we'd save on gas and oil, but a lot of these EVs are way out of our price range. We pay about $10k for a 10 year old Honda and get 15-20 years out of them with very little maintenance or repair costs. We can't do a $30k to $40k+ car and then another $10k to $20k every ten years when the battery gives out.
25 cubic feet of storage in a two-passenger vehicle with Aptera's aerodynamics *is* a selling point. It's a vehicle for a single person or couple (or second vehicle for a family). It's not a family SUV nor is it marketed as one.
If you manage to wear out a contemporary EV battery in ten years, you're driving too damn much to be pretending to care about wanting to "save the environment". The relatively small batteries used in the Aptera shouldn't cost anywhere near $10k to replace anyway. LMAO.
Aptera is motorcycle, not a car.
Despite Chris and Steve referring to it as a automobile it does not meet any requirments of a passenger automobile.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 It's an "autocycle" and does meet several of the requirements for passenger automobiles (full windshield, airbags, seat belts, etc.) even though it doesn't have to legally. And it should be able to skirt around some of the more archaic requirements (side mirrors). I anticipate seeing how it performs in the standard NHTSA crash tests.
@@popefacto5945Completely moot point really... Aptera is not a legitimate vehicle manufacturer, it's nothing more than a fraudulent vaporware investment scam.
This guy sets off my bullshit meter like none other
You might want to calibrate it. There’s a huge difference between a salesperson pitch and an engineer who knows what he’s talking about.
He has a solid record of bringing products and companies to fruition; what you may be hearing is his experience convincing investors, which he also has a solid record of.
@altosack it's his unrealistic claims. Solar powered roof that you'll never have to charge your car? 350 mpg equivalent? 1000 miles of range? 3.5 second 0-60? These numbers are insane. I admit that 1000 mile batteries are possible but youre gonna sacrifice mpge and accelaration. Solar powered charging is possible but unless you live on the equator and never go above 20 mph you're still going to have to charge the car. 350 mpge? That's ridiculous even for this tiny thing. Maybe possible but not with the incredible acceleration. He also said that the motor wheels weren't likely to get damaged. That's hilarious. I want to be proven wrong but I think this guy is selling you all bridges and his car (if it ever comes out) will be no better than the average tiny EV. He's a salesman and this company is gonna crash and burn for the second time.
@@justinbarrus8959 - I’m a mechanical engineer who has also designed/installed many solar electric systems. The numbers check out; you’re just comparing them with cars where efficiency was not their guiding design principle (to be charitable).
The one thing I’ll agree with you about is the hub motor durability needs to be proven.
Aptera is a vaporware investment scam ripping off investors for over 18 years now.
Chris is a habitual liar, nothing he says ever comes true.
@@altosack You are a gullible fool if you believe anything Aptera claims about its vaporware products
Too bad my commute is 50 miles and I live in northeast USA where the sun isn't the greatest.
Edit: typo
What does that have to do with this?
Electricity is stupid cheap.
Only 50 miles, sounds like this would be great for you since it can gain 40 miles a day of free energy. Would take you months to run out the battery at 10 miles a day.
Even if you can't get as much solar recharge, you can still plug it in, and it takes a lot less energy to get from point A to B with how efficient the design is with the light weight and aerodynamics.
The Aptera is not a car, but a motorcycle. And not even the most efficient motorcycle.
way safer i bet
@@marsmotion The Aptera is a deathtrap in case of an accident.
The Aptera is classified as an "Autocycle."
@@richpate9436 *Aptera is as a 3-wheel motorcycle, it has yet to meet federal standards to be classified as a autocycle.*
@@richpate9436 An autocycle is a motorcycle with 3 wheels (no sidecar).
"GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NORTH CAROLINA
SESSION 2015
HOUSE BILL 6
RATIFIED BILL
H6-v-3
AN ACT TO DEFINE AND REGULATE AUTOCYCLES.
"Passenger Vehicles. -
a. Autocycle. - A three-wheeled motorcycle that has a steering wheel,
pedals, seat safety belts for each occupant, antilock brakes, air bag
protection, completely enclosed seating that does not require the
operator to straddle or sit astride, and is otherwise manufactured to
comply with federal safety requirements for motorcycles.
a.a1. Excursion passenger vehicles. - Vehicles transporting persons on
sight-seeing or travel tours.
…
d. Motorcycles. - Vehicles having a saddle for the use of the rider and
designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the
ground, including motor scooters, autocycles, motor scooters, and
motor-driven bicycles, but excluding tractors and utility vehicles
equipped with an additional form of device designed to transport
property, three-wheeled vehicles while being used by
law-enforcement agencies and mopeds as defined in subdivision d1
of this subsection."
If you liked Theranos you should wtach Aptera. It's gonna be a great show.👍
It better not be lol
There's no good reason to believe that.
They could take it and run or take it, keep it and spend it wisely and come out with so much more money. A ludicrous ROI
Aptera founders already have a record of successful startups. Check out the lithium battery company that Chris Anthony co-founded and took public as CEO. They are open to examination.
@@rebeccadubois8270 I'd like to invest but just wish the minimum was lower then 1000
@@shamicentertainment1262 I don't know much about it, but there's an investment platform called "Republic" where you can invest in Aptera with a minimum investment of $210, if I remember correctly.
Gayer than lame plus fake
J.K.
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