Hey I heard you put what happened to Nigel Farage and I'm quoting now "art" well what do ya think would happen if someone you support like I don't know Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn got that type of treatment would that be "art" nah I didn't think so you should be ashamed you and that Femi guy need ya heads testing
Not really. People genuinely believe that the Tories are for the rich and Labour for the man and woman in the street. When you get that level of stupid you get Starmer and Sunak.
it was really frightening and disgusting the way she morphed his question and reframed it to focus on Israelis while sidelining the mass murder and devastation of Palestine that is still happening. What a terrible individual. Terrible debate.
Disgusted when new deal Israel /Gaza was mentioned and he phrased it as ‘We’ have put it together. Now that was a blatant untruth . Absolutely shameful. He can claim only Negativity on the subject.
It is not the case that too many people dont agree.Unionism is dead and the majority of Scots do agree with that statement .Independence now!!!!@@scottyfive4319
And weak Starmer stood there and let him lie. For a man that spent half his life arguing in a court. He is pathetic. Starmer is not the man to be running this country. If someone as pathetic as Sunrat can show him up. He has no chance. Starmer needs to grow a pair and a spine.
Yes, me too. I was on the fence as my constituency looks like it will swing from conservative for the first time, but I cannot vote labour. Just donated a few pounds to the local greens
Starmer is Pathetic, he allowed sunak to bully him , this debate with the Tories record should have been a victory for starmer , however starmer failed. Mick Lynch is a better representative for. working people
For what it's worth, I feel badly for the people of the UK. Almost as badly as I feel for us here in Canada. There seems to be a pandemic in the world, and it's not Covid; "leaders" who are empty vessels filled up with the policy positions of corporations.
sunak, starmer, macron, trudeau, biden, zelensky and netanyahu are competing for the clown of the year award. It's going to be a close contest this year.
Similarly to the US, somehow the UK has also ended up with not being able to vote for a candidate they love and support, but vote for the lesser of two evils.
@@johnburrows3385 Because he avoids talking about what he will do instead keeps the public in the dark, once in power the truth will come out. Agreed Sunak a liar made up £2000 but he never said he wasn’t going to raise taxes how much they would be. Also he didn’t give any satisfactory answer regarding taxes on pensioners. Don’t get me wrong can’t stand Tories but you also don’t know where you stand with Labour.
Why did starmer put that gormless expression on his face when he heard little riki lie? as if he never heard nor told a lie in his life. He is weak and cowardly too.
... because people say: Anybody but this lot... and the other lot get into power... This lot... and that lot... both have Friends Of Israel groups... Vote Green for a genuine change...
@@leonardeast4971 It's a pity the majority of Scots don't seem to want independence (if the last referendum tells us anything). As a Scot, why they don't I'll never understand!
Back in the day I loved watching 'Yes Minister' and I thought it had to be an exaggeration of the real thing. How wrong was I? I now follow the real thing.
Totally agree. There is nothing authentic about the pair. So dishonest, simply dancing to the tunes of Murdoch media. How on earth have we ended up with this sh!t show?
It’s quite funny watching Starmer being boxed in by his own ridiculous red lines and having to agree with Sunak on basically everything. Less funny that he’ll soon be in power and nothing will change but I guess I’m in the acceptance stage of grief now
It's fascinating watching the UK go through this exercise from Australia. People need to get out while they have options. Engineers, Chefs, Doctors, Nurses, Medical Specialists are all needed.
Why would anyone vote for either Tories or Labour? They're just blue and red Tories maybe if people voted for L8b Dem, Greens, SNP and independents we'd have a parliament where no party has a majority and they'd all have to work together in a more balanced way.
As Matty said, if we have proportional representation that would work. But under our current first past the post system you've just got to vote the party that is most likely to defeat the Tory rep standing for election in your constituency. 4 out 5 times that means voting Labour
I felt bad for the moderator really. You could hear her getting frustrated from the disrespectful nature of the debate and the evasion of questions. And, I would too. People are pouring their hearts out and they're still trying to perform a pathetic display of politics. I think it's a national disgrace what these 'politicians' have allowed our politics to become.
A tragic indictment of not just these political leaders but the mainstream media. The reframing of that question about Gazza was truly sickening and that presenter should hold her head in shame. 🙏🇵🇸🙏
Im still worried about you Owen after 7 months of genocide in Gaza which has been ignored by Tory & Labour alike,i feel for you hav8ng to get through the next 4 weeks of dare i say it more lies,may you stay calm & keep the faith in this terrible world,as for our government what a useless lot Rishi Sunak hopefully will move to California on July 5th,i will happily wave him off,Paula x
I'm glad I left Labour when they forced Corbyn out of the leadership. It's been a steady decline since, and I've avoided politics since. Those days of hopefulness really are gone.
So starmer got a bit of his own medicine? 🤔 I really don't care because that wasn't a debate for the next PM, it was a debate for the leadership of the new tory party. People have stopped listening.
These two jokers are as bad as the two jokers on the other side of the pond, the bar is now so low, its now time for real change, vote greens or independent, let's kick their butts!
Both just want to be prime ministers. Neither has any idea what to do once there. The only difference is that sunak already showed how clueless he is in action.
It amazes me, that as a lawyer, Starmer has great difficulty "thinking on his feet" and failing to call out Sunak's lies about Labour's plans for tax. Sunak managed to get the message across about the "£2,000 Labour Tax rises" ten times last might, so the damage is now done and that is what is now in a lot of people's minds ! Therefore, a victory for Sunak in this "so called debate." 😢
Starmer's advisors should spend far more time preparing for election debates rather than ways to oust principled left leaning MPs. I can't believe Starmer didn't have an intelligent response to the £2000 tax lie seeing Sunakshyte has been saying this for weeks! I'm even more disappointed with Starmer than I was! Keep up your brill work. Another big hug! X
A large part of problem was the format. You have 45 seconds to explain your position on every key issue facing this country. 45 secs on Nhs,housing, security of country, education, immgration. The moderator in trying to adhere to this rule just came across as bloody annoying. It was impossible for Starmer to debunk tory lies on £2k tax raises. Tvs execs think public have attention span of a gnat. Debate should have been 2 hours finishing final half hour with q and a session.
I'm afraid of what is coming next as people are voting Labour just to get the Torries out and not doing the research of how Labour have U-turn on their commitments. I had to convince my sister not to vote Labour as she just wanted to get the Torries out. If we keep on going with the idea of voting for the lesser evil then the country will get NOWHERE! It's time for major change as the country deserves better than these constant policies from the main parties who only serve one particular group... the RICH!
Thanks for telling the truths that are political 'leaders' are pathologically incapable of telling. Starmer does seem clueless in the debate, not someone who you could rely on (Johnson, Truss, Sunak and now a man devoid of political conviction) - it is just very depressing for those who hope for a future where inequality and its roots might be interrogated! Kudos Owen for great analysis🙌
You know, instead of telling people what the OTHER GUY is gonna do or not do, why don't they tell you what THEY are gonna do or not do? Because they got nothing. They are gonna see how much more money they can take from the taxpayers and put into their own pocket. That is ALL they both are gonna do.
Sadly Owen, we do get the government’s we deserve, because the majority of people still for their lying rhetoric and don’t demand better. We continue to tolerate this totally corrupt and broken system that hasn’t been working for the vast majority of people in this country for decades, it only serves the interests of the super rich and big business. I want better for the people in this country, but I’m honestly pessimistic and totally disillusioned with this broken system that we’re living under.
The debate was completely depressing on all accounts. Starmer came across as gormless and uninspired and Rishi walked all over him. Absolutely pathetic, but thats what you get when you have a beige, propped-up neoliberal puppet like him with no passion or charisma. It was like every word was effortful. How you arrive at a complete open goal like this and miss the mark so profoundly that 51% of people think you lost speaks only to lack of any genuine beliefs, but also his fundamental incompetence as a politician and a public speaker
The question asked by the man in green at 9:12 was well thought out and still needs addressing, however the way the moderator rephrased it, left it open for these two goons to spew their nonsense rhetoric.
I had stopped watching your videos over last few week but I have to say thank you for covering this even though you clearly don't support Starmer It has been hard recently to tell who you disliked more so again, thank you 🙏
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Hey I heard you put what happened to Nigel Farage and I'm quoting now "art" well what do ya think would happen if someone you support like I don't know Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn got that type of treatment would that be "art" nah I didn't think so you should be ashamed you and that Femi guy need ya heads testing
get lost
@@simonrelf1671 what can't take it we'll see when because it will happen to Diane Abbott and Corbyn don't come crying ya hard left tears when it does
@@ashleyhulme4931Define hard left-I don’t think you even know-you just parrot the Sun
@@ashleyhulme4931 try typing English
The debate was a tragic indictment of both parties and this stupid country in general
Oi!! 🏴🏴
Evil globalism is bad?
Exactly
Not really. People genuinely believe that the Tories are for the rich and Labour for the man and woman in the street. When you get that level of stupid you get Starmer and Sunak.
I totally agree
This is why we applaud people like you mr Jones and no longer watch or believe main stream media
Unfortunately there are who show a complete lack of critical thinking’
🤣🤣Owen has not been correct about a single thing in his life and you believe him……oh ok.
@Mizzkan yet here you are just to troll his comments section. What a sad life you lead
it was really frightening and disgusting the way she morphed his question and reframed it to focus on Israelis while sidelining the mass murder and devastation of Palestine that is still happening. What a terrible individual. Terrible debate.
Agreed. They’re very skilful at it
Seems everyone loves American, oops I mean Israeli, money.
Disgusted when new deal Israel /Gaza was mentioned and he phrased it as ‘We’ have put it together. Now that was a blatant untruth . Absolutely shameful. He can claim only Negativity on the subject.
I found it deeply horrifying when I heard it. I actually can’t even believe I heard it in a way.
I'll be voting SNP. If I was living down south I'd probably vote Greens or independent. Starmer is going to be a disappointment.
Fool reform for me
🤡
Scotland must be independent this is gutter politics
Sorry, too many in Scotland do not agree with you. You are correct the UK is well down the gutter politics road.
It is not the case that too many people dont agree.Unionism is dead and the majority of Scots do agree with that statement .Independence now!!!!@@scottyfive4319
I'm all for independence too. I know of many who regret wasting their vote in 2014 and wish they voted for independence
@@Nikkimorox1hello 👋
If sunak was Pinocchio, imagine how big his nose would be.
Dude how are you everywhere at once on RUclips?
@@FrostRare I have my comments saved to save time. It takes me a few seconds to post. Greetings from Australia.
If Sunak was Pinocchio, I always thought Starmer is a Woodentop. (Google it if you don't know) Make a great pair.
😂😂😂
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥Does anyone else find it interesting that you cannot spell Israel without the letters L-I-A-R-S 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😢😮😮
One lies and the other is clueless .. idk if we should call it a debate honestly
The US would like to welcome the UK into the official "we REALLY need a third choice" club.
They both lie. A lot
@@basfinnisand they are both clueless
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥Does anyone else find it interesting that you cannot spell Israel without the letters L-I-A-R-S 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😢😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@@kekennedyand some of us in the US are happy with our current President.
Unfortunately, the level of incompetency is endemic across all sectors in the UK, journalism is not an exception.
Same in the US; but it's not "incompetency"; it's CORRUPTION!
@@GingerPeacenik it's like chicken and egg question
@@GingerPeacenikprobably both
They are all liars. Nothing surprising
No not all. You’re doing the lifting for the tories there.
And weak Starmer stood there and let him lie. For a man that spent half his life arguing in a court. He is pathetic. Starmer is not the man to be running this country. If someone as pathetic as Sunrat can show him up. He has no chance. Starmer needs to grow a pair and a spine.
You have to wonder why he got that position in the courts
He performed better than Corbyn v Johnson 🤷🏻♂️
They are both part of the same system, it was a show ...
Sure he is weak but he's the lesser of two evils. We just have to hope he improves by the time he's running the country.
I doubt that very much.
Yeah now I'm definitely voting Green
Yes, me too. I was on the fence as my constituency looks like it will swing from conservative for the first time, but I cannot vote labour. Just donated a few pounds to the local greens
Starmer is Pathetic, he allowed sunak to bully him , this debate with the Tories record should have been a victory for starmer , however starmer failed. Mick Lynch is a better representative for. working people
🤣🤣Mick Lynch is for himself.
@Mizzkan you've got that one wrong
Angela Rainer would have wiped the floor with him, she'd make a better leader.
For what it's worth, I feel badly for the people of the UK. Almost as badly as I feel for us here in Canada. There seems to be a pandemic in the world, and it's not Covid; "leaders" who are empty vessels filled up with the policy positions of corporations.
The West is slowly Crumbling
I was absolutely furious with the presenter when she rephrased the question on Gaza, I was shouting at the TV
You’re literally an animal.
That moderator's reframing of that guy's question is so subtle. Normies probably won't even notice that but that was absolutely disgusting.
Yeah …did she reframe any other audience questions as much as she twisted that one ?
sunak, starmer, macron, trudeau, biden, zelensky and netanyahu are competing for the clown of the year award. It's going to be a close contest this year.
Dangerous clowns with the positions they hold.
Trump will win it again...for certain 😂
Add Trump and Milei
Yes, and their weakness is opening the door to the far populist right. We've seen it before!
If you could understand Arabic, Sisi of Egypt would be the king of clowns hands down.
Thank you Owen Jones for TRUTH news.
Thanks
Similarly to the US, somehow the UK has also ended up with not being able to vote for a candidate they love and support, but vote for the lesser of two evils.
Well Scottish so ANY voting I'm doing is for SNP
I agree with ya Owen about the presenter reframing the Gaza question. The guy simply wanted to know what they plan to do next i.e. as the next PM !!
Brilliant Owen 👍👍🏴✊
Sunak lied but Starmer is as shifty as they come.
Why is Starmer "shifty" can you qualify that statement ?
@@johnburrows3385 Because he avoids talking about what he will do instead keeps the public in the dark, once in power the truth will come out. Agreed Sunak a liar made up £2000 but he never said he wasn’t going to raise taxes how much they would be. Also he didn’t give any satisfactory answer regarding taxes on pensioners. Don’t get me wrong can’t stand Tories but you also don’t know where you stand with Labour.
Was Sunak telling a lie about the £2k? With Sunak looking shifty I am tempted to believe its the intention
@@iramwarriah9613yes because Labour don’t have access to the figures needed to make concrete decisions yet.
@@NewEstablishment what even the leader wow. What did he think he was going to talk about in an election debate? A bit of an own goal I think.
Why did starmer put that gormless expression on his face when he heard little riki lie? as if he never heard nor told a lie in his life. He is weak and cowardly too.
Wonder why Scotland's NHS staff are not on strike?
Both absolute liars?!.. One is just a better liar than the other!!..
I think from now on instead of saying _"The lesser of two evils"_ it should be _"the better of two liars"_ 🙂
One liar couldn't call out his opponents lies... because they both lie and one liar may know more of the other liars lies....🤔
Democracy! choosing between those two! OMG
is this really the best we can do - how far we have fallen as a country
Would that country be England
... because people say:
Anybody but this lot... and the other lot get into power...
This lot... and that lot... both have Friends Of Israel groups...
Vote Green for a genuine change...
@@stevanbankier707 UK
Ludicrously undemocratic that no other party leaders were allowed to participate in the debate
Vote SNP. Vote independence. Thats the votes that actually make a difference in Scotland.
I used to vote SNP but it's been a poor 5 years from Nicola and Humza the SNP deserve to lose half their seats.
Most of us will be very pleased if and when independence occurs, we won't have to listen to the perpetual drivel. Don't forget the debt.
@@leonardeast4971 It's a pity the majority of Scots don't seem to want independence (if the last referendum tells us anything). As a Scot, why they don't I'll never understand!
@leonardeast4971 we will remember the "debt" and the assets. Enjoy the shitty water, and E. Coli 🤢
Ooo am I first? Lovely, Hi Owen, I watched the ‘debate’ with Helena No Justice MTG, it was pathetic tbh. Vote 🗳️ Green 💚 For me!
Sunak has been having some lying lessons from Johnson.
They don't give a toss about the state of the country!!
wow im first :P Thank you for your job Owen against lies :)
“You are lying” is not a can of worms Starmer wants to open.
6:55 If that’s not your prime example for the master gaslighting we have to deal with as the public on a daily basis, I don’t know what is.
Thanks Owen bro :)
At least people got to see how much of a joke both leaders are. Maybe the greens can get some benefit out of this
and get denied seeing the OTHER big party running for office. Not having the LibDems involved is election tampering.
The moderator shows how deeply totalitarian the media has become on Gaza.
Back in the day I loved watching 'Yes Minister' and I thought it had to be an exaggeration of the real thing. How wrong was I? I now follow the real thing.
Totally agree. There is nothing authentic about the pair. So dishonest, simply dancing to the tunes of Murdoch media. How on earth have we ended up with this sh!t show?
It’s quite funny watching Starmer being boxed in by his own ridiculous red lines and having to agree with Sunak on basically everything. Less funny that he’ll soon be in power and nothing will change but I guess I’m in the acceptance stage of grief now
Spot on Owen
Last night's debate was between two habitual liars take your pick which liar won .
He hasnt lied this much since filling in his last tax return..
I think I won that debate because I didn’t watch it
Wise decision.
Same. Epic win.
'Burning skip of a debate', i'm gonna nick that Owen, lol.
It’s one of his favourite phrases and always very descriptive.
It’s the British equivalent of the American “dumpster fire”. 😏
Very nice.
@@hermano4242 yes we don’t have dumpsters in the UK.
Vote independent!!
not always an option.
It's fascinating watching the UK go through this exercise from Australia.
People need to get out while they have options.
Engineers, Chefs, Doctors, Nurses, Medical Specialists are all needed.
Great content, as usual.
Echingham should be really ashamed of herself, for the Palestinian Israel comment!😡
I was shocked by how she reframed that when i watched. Disgraceful
@@matty7758 I wish I could say I was shocked, unfortunately with the BBC I’m not anymore.
Why would anyone vote for either Tories or Labour? They're just blue and red Tories maybe if people voted for L8b Dem, Greens, SNP and independents we'd have a parliament where no party has a majority and they'd all have to work together in a more balanced way.
This is exactly why we need pr
As Matty said, if we have proportional representation that would work. But under our current first past the post system you've just got to vote the party that is most likely to defeat the Tory rep standing for election in your constituency. 4 out 5 times that means voting Labour
Never watched it none of the 2 represents me or my family
In Scotland vote SNP
In Wales vote Plaid Cymru
In England vote Green or independent
I felt bad for the moderator really. You could hear her getting frustrated from the disrespectful nature of the debate and the evasion of questions. And, I would too. People are pouring their hearts out and they're still trying to perform a pathetic display of politics. I think it's a national disgrace what these 'politicians' have allowed our politics to become.
What is Starmer for? Why does he exist?
To cover FOI AOLI
For Israel
Evil people...
A tragic indictment of not just these political leaders but the mainstream media. The reframing of that question about Gazza was truly sickening and that presenter should hold her head in shame.
🙏🇵🇸🙏
Well said Owen;-) keep telling the truth we need change we need PR
Im still worried about you Owen after 7 months of genocide in Gaza which has been ignored by Tory & Labour alike,i feel for you hav8ng to get through the next 4 weeks of dare i say it more lies,may you stay calm & keep the faith in this terrible world,as for our government what a useless lot Rishi Sunak hopefully will move to California on July 5th,i will happily wave him off,Paula x
Hope so Sunak should pack his bag and go to India or California
They were both useless. Srarmer answered no questions and Sunak well he did as he usual DOES FALL
To be fair if they weren't allowed to lie then they'd have to just stand there in silence.
The best comment I read hahaha
I'm glad I left Labour when they forced Corbyn out of the leadership. It's been a steady decline since, and I've avoided politics since. Those days of hopefulness really are gone.
So starmer got a bit of his own medicine? 🤔
I really don't care because that wasn't a debate for the next PM, it was a debate for the leadership of the new tory party.
People have stopped listening.
Nailed it.
SNP has always had my back.
👍👍🏴✊
These two jokers are as bad as the two jokers on the other side of the pond, the bar is now so low, its now time for real change, vote greens or independent, let's kick their butts!
Green means shivering in the dark.
VOTE REFORM UK !
Starmer: How are they coming down?
Sunak: because they are coming down. 😂
I couldn't bear to watch two broadly similar politicians scoring minor points over one another when we all know the action the country needs.
Terrible plans & lack of plans😂😂😂…. Nice one👌
Both just want to be prime ministers. Neither has any idea what to do once there. The only difference is that sunak already showed how clueless he is in action.
It amazes me, that as a lawyer, Starmer has great difficulty "thinking on his feet" and failing to call out Sunak's lies about Labour's plans for tax. Sunak managed to get the message across about the "£2,000 Labour Tax rises" ten times last might, so the damage is now done and that is what is now in a lot of people's minds ! Therefore, a victory for Sunak in this "so called debate." 😢
Didn't think I could feel more disillusioned until I watched this debate. Oh how I was wrong 😑
Starmer's advisors should spend far more time preparing for election debates rather than ways to oust principled left leaning MPs. I can't believe Starmer didn't have an intelligent response to the £2000 tax lie seeing Sunakshyte has been saying this for weeks! I'm even more disappointed with Starmer than I was! Keep up your brill work. Another big hug! X
Also in this dangerous times we cannot have somebody who shuts debate (Starmer) in UK foreign policy
If your wallet's lean
Cast your ballot for green!
A large part of problem was the format. You have 45 seconds to explain your position on every key issue facing this country. 45 secs on Nhs,housing, security of country, education, immgration. The moderator in trying to adhere to this rule just came across as bloody annoying. It was impossible for Starmer to debunk tory lies on £2k tax raises. Tvs execs think public have attention span of a gnat. Debate should have been 2 hours finishing final half hour with q and a session.
They are the same party. No matter who the powers choose, we are screwed.
Oh dear Owen: it comes to something when you feel that you have to defend the Labour Party. Try not to do it too much. 😂
Owen is neutral tellls the truth unlike little Sunak & his rival starmer
I think it's more a case that Owen supports what Labour represents, the current leaders share different opinions.
@@Titus9508 agreed I think. It’s not like that now is it? Which is why he has left.
@@Titus9508spot on-I’ve left the Labour Party-I’m still Labour -just not this incarnation
What annoys me is who do genuine left wingers in this country vote for? Do we have an option.
Thank you Owen. I will vote for the Green. ❤
I'm afraid of what is coming next as people are voting Labour just to get the Torries out and not doing the research of how Labour have U-turn on their commitments. I had to convince my sister not to vote Labour as she just wanted to get the Torries out. If we keep on going with the idea of voting for the lesser evil then the country will get NOWHERE! It's time for major change as the country deserves better than these constant policies from the main parties who only serve one particular group... the RICH!
The state of the water companies and our waterways wasn't mentioned once. Disgraceful
Man, that was embarrassing when everyone laughed at little Sunak
Thanks for telling the truths that are political 'leaders' are pathologically incapable of telling. Starmer does seem clueless in the debate, not someone who you could rely on (Johnson, Truss, Sunak and now a man devoid of political conviction) - it is just very depressing for those who hope for a future where inequality and its roots might be interrogated! Kudos Owen for great analysis🙌
Air Drying is a lot better than using a tumble dryer , well done Owen
After all that Owen says vote green….with their grand total of one MP..🥴
They way the host reframed the question from the audience member was totally disgusting. Vile.
You know, instead of telling people what the OTHER GUY is gonna do or not do, why don't they tell you what THEY are gonna do or not do? Because they got nothing. They are gonna see how much more money they can take from the taxpayers and put into their own pocket. That is ALL they both are gonna do.
I couldn't bear to watch Rishi bullying and lying. So predictable. Doesn't move the debate about the parlous state of country one iota.
Sadly Owen, we do get the government’s we deserve, because the majority of people still for their lying rhetoric and don’t demand better. We continue to tolerate this totally corrupt and broken system that hasn’t been working for the vast majority of people in this country for decades, it only serves the interests of the super rich and big business. I want better for the people in this country, but I’m honestly pessimistic and totally disillusioned with this broken system that we’re living under.
Two cheeks of the same backside trying to pretend they don't want to be attached anymore.
Tory versus Tory
They just don't have a clue about the 'ordinary' people! Starmer always saying he came from a 'working class' background now has selective amnesia!!
Hard for Keir to call Rishi out for lying, it would simply be pot calling kettle black XD
The debate was completely depressing on all accounts. Starmer came across as gormless and uninspired and Rishi walked all over him.
Absolutely pathetic, but thats what you get when you have a beige, propped-up neoliberal puppet like him with no passion or charisma. It was like every word was effortful. How you arrive at a complete open goal like this and miss the mark so profoundly that 51% of people think you lost speaks only to lack of any genuine beliefs, but also his fundamental incompetence as a politician and a public speaker
The question asked by the man in green at 9:12 was well thought out and still needs addressing, however the way the moderator rephrased it, left it open for these two goons to spew their nonsense rhetoric.
I had stopped watching your videos over last few week but I have to say thank you for covering this even though you clearly don't support Starmer
It has been hard recently to tell who you disliked more so again, thank you 🙏
I think the Greens are looking better and better