As a blackhawks fan, Jesse might be my new best friend, 4th place in the division and playoffs, is wild. But hey anything came happen, should be a fun ride this season.
Your sample size for generational talent making the playoffs in their second season is two guys. Plus, you're confusing correlation and causation. Just because both McDavid and Crosby made the play-offs in their second year doesn't mean their status as generational prospects was the reason that happened. You have to look at the secondary scoring and depth, which I just don't see. You probably need someone to put on at least 75+ points and another couple players to put up 50+.
If Bedard breaks out this year and gets 100+ points they MAY make the playoffs, but it would be tough. I think Chicago is just not tanking this year. They want a top 10 pick in the draft, but not a top 3. They also have some nice trade chips at the deadline that will bring in some draft picks and prospects
I was waiting for this one for Jesse's hot take. I will say, if everything goes right, Chicago has a chance to be battling for the last wild card spot along with Utah, St. Louis, L.A. & Seattle, but I don't see them finishing above Winnipeg, Dallas, Nashville, or Colorado in their division, unless something goes terribly wrong for one of those teams.
@marquisduhsade probably But he also has a profile that can potentially drop. He's old. He's a wing. He isn't exactly known for defensive prowess, but that could change this year. And a whole lot of the bad teams need a Schaefer or a Mrtka this year
There is no chance of the Blackhawks making the playoffs. Defense and goaltending are pants, and the only teams in the west who made the playoffs last season who got worse are vegas and (arguably) the kings.
Regardless if they don't make the playoffs, the Blackhawks will be very competitive and fun to watch. The most underrated part of being a fan is watching potential and development.
I dont mind this format for previews, and i get that ita probably better in terms of numbers. But honestly i think a livesteam closer to the start of the season where yall predict each division would be a lot more fun. Even if less in depth
also them having 52 points last season was largely due to the fact that they were easily one of the most injured teams in the league. they didn't have many good players to begin with and the ones they did have were all injured at one point (Hall, Athanasiou, Bedard, Foligno, Jones and more). they were claiming random guys off waivers and bringing up AHL nobodies just to ice a team at one point. if all of those players have relatively healthy seasons and they actually have a quality NHL-caliber supporting cast now, I can see a huge swing in points. also they have an actual backup goalie now who's not basically an automatic L on the scoresheet.
I’m on Jesse’s side here, in fact I think they are a 100 point team this season. I can’t back it up but I’m going out on a limb. The central is so stacked tho that I have them as the second wildcard even with 100 points, very unlikely to happen but I’m all here for it!
Excited to watch Bedard continue to grow into the inevitable freak of nature superstar but not expecting much else from the Hawks. They will definitely be more watchable than last years squad though I’ll tell you that for free.
Here’s the deal I lived in Chicago last season, I went to 10 games last year. Bedard didn’t record a goal or a point in the games I watched To be very fair, he’s an engaging player and it was hard not to notice him and I know that he will be special and that people will look at this fact and laugh in the distant future This team will get better, Broissaint is better, but they have to do better at home. This year ain’t their year for a post season, but a time when they crush the hearts of other central division opponents like the early 2010’s are on the horizon
Levshunov will prolly spend the season down in Rockford. I’m hoping that the Icehogs make the playoffs. As a hawks fan, we’ll make a big step but we’re not making playoffs just yet. Could see us 5th or 6th in division
Levshunov is going to be in Rockford this year he's not making the Blackhawks this season. I wonder if your leaf bias doesn't understand how well Mrazek is because your dump him on us because the Leafs wanted were so ready to get rid of him. Mrazek has worked out great in Chicago has 2 years on his deal. Our top goalie prospect Drew Commesso is in Rockford he's going be cooking in Rockford till Mrazek deal is done.
The situations are so diff, Crosby had better pieces in place and Malkin and Fluery, McDavid had prime Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Talbot, Etc. Bedard has no one on that level still the hawks are not making the playoffs lol
Will hawks make top 3 in division? (Avs, Preds, Stars) no. Take either wc spot? (Kings ((doughty injured)) Jets), 50/50. All depends on small variables. But their roster doesn't look terrible by any means.
Asking Bedard to come up with 100 with still not enough around him is unfair. There is no definite number 2 scoring threat on this team. It’s a shame. It’s like watching Caleb Williams on the bears. No help for him either. Being a chicago fan is tough.
Jesse... The central has the Avs, Jets, Stars and the Preds. I think the most likely out of the four I listed to drop to fifth are the Jets, and even that is a STRETCH and a half. I can see them finishing 5th with some luck on their side. Now the funny thing is, imo they could still make the playoffs like that since the pacific is lookin kinda thin, you have the top three of EDM, VGK, and VAN, and then the rest. There is actually a semi-realistic scenario where the hawks get more points than the kings for example, but everything would have to go absolutely right for them.
@@anthonyfaccaro7118blues don’t have a prayer of sniffing the playoffs this year, hawks actually have an outside chance of snagging a 5th place wildcard
They should legit throw an offer sheet at Swayman. Just saying. If they finish 5th and push for a spot but not get it. Mid range draft pick, and the bedard and company get way better. The draft picks might not be the loss you’d imagine for Swayman.
As a die hard hawks fan… this team is still abysmal. Bedard, like last year will be the only player teams will keen on. Secondary scoring? May I ask where from?
They’re objectively better “on paper” than they were last year. That being said 10 new bodies in the line up need time to gel. Jesse just gets too hyped up about young stars. Bedard, Faber, Hughes, etc. Hockey is a team game.
@@matthewsimonds3346 it's not getting one of they're young guys to an elite level that's the problem. They would need 2 of their young guys to hit that elite level and all their guys would have to stay healthy. For mcdavid and Edmonton. Edmonton was bad for several years before they got McDavid and had piled up prospects/draft picks. Pittsburgh with Crosby was in a sort of similar situation. Chicago is still in a situation where they need one more top draft pick center. It's too early in the rebuild to worry about playoffs. What they need to do right now is not trade away futures, build up a few more Blue Chip prospects and give their young guys time to really develop into stars. If they want to make the playoffs this year, they're going to have to trade futures. They're going to have to pick up more pieces and I think that's dumb.
@@Slidezy you’re acting like I’m thinking they are contenders. They absolutely are not. But they have the pieces to POTENTIALLY emerge as a good team. And even a good team to sneak into a playoff spot. Yes a lot has to go right and yeah it’s not the goal to make the playoffs but it CAN happen
Love Jessies enthusiasm for my Hawks! If we can get off to a hot start I think its possible. My only concerns would be injuries. Hall probably will get hurt again. Arie is already hurt and missing a few weeks, and LB is already going to miss a few weeks. Hopefully Bedard takes that step. As a STH i would love for the hawks to roll. But either way its going to be a fun team to watch at the UC! LETS GO HAWKS!
This Preds fan hopes that the Hawks remain in the doldrums for the next decade with a first round pick record like that of the Oilers...short of a McDavid. 😅
All i heard is Chicago will make the playoffs because BEDARD because GENERATIONAL. What if he is not ? What if he simply is Elite or good ? What if the marketing department of the NHL fucked up again ? If he is generational he still needs 10x the talent around him to make the playoffs and have a small shot at anything.
If you think this is a playoff team you can just cancel the pod and the rest of the preveiws, your credibilty is gone and you no longer deserve a voice on these topics.
People said the flyers were trash last year and were in a playoff spot all season until the end. And year prior everyone thought the devils would be bad and they had 112 points. And last year the Canucks were projected to be decent and they won their division. Stop being so negative
As a blackhawks fan, Jesse might be my new best friend, 4th place in the division and playoffs, is wild. But hey anything came happen, should be a fun ride this season.
Your sample size for generational talent making the playoffs in their second season is two guys. Plus, you're confusing correlation and causation. Just because both McDavid and Crosby made the play-offs in their second year doesn't mean their status as generational prospects was the reason that happened. You have to look at the secondary scoring and depth, which I just don't see. You probably need someone to put on at least 75+ points and another couple players to put up 50+.
If Bedard breaks out this year and gets 100+ points they MAY make the playoffs, but it would be tough. I think Chicago is just not tanking this year. They want a top 10 pick in the draft, but not a top 3. They also have some nice trade chips at the deadline that will bring in some draft picks and prospects
If the Hawks makes the playoffs i hope none of the people delete their comments
Well it's not going to happen
@@gabrielkrzysiak7497 added you to the list to not delete it
I do think the Hawks were a bit better than their record said last year but they are definitely not making the playoffs
Think they could make the playoffs has to be a joke right
Well the Vegas knight did surprise everyone when they got to the playoffs in there first season
@@TheKingOfPuppets747Apples to oranges
Oh yeah what a bad take to think a bad team who added a ton of veterans and have tons of young talent could be average and make the playoffs.
@@matthewsimonds3346being average doesn’t make the playoffs lol
@@daytonhh9698tell that to last years washington capitals
I was waiting for this one for Jesse's hot take. I will say, if everything goes right, Chicago has a chance to be battling for the last wild card spot along with Utah, St. Louis, L.A. & Seattle, but I don't see them finishing above Winnipeg, Dallas, Nashville, or Colorado in their division, unless something goes terribly wrong for one of those teams.
How does Jesse think San Jose and Chicago will make the playoffs after making a few improvements
Jesse saying the Blackhawks can jump the Flyers in the division says it all, it has to be a joke right?
Yeaaah Jessey makra me happy leeets gooo exactly we fighting for the play-off leeets gooo
Hawks
Lol they're drafting like top 7. Hopefully getting Martone for Bedard's wing.
Martone will be top 3
@marquisduhsade probably
But he also has a profile that can potentially drop. He's old. He's a wing. He isn't exactly known for defensive prowess, but that could change this year. And a whole lot of the bad teams need a Schaefer or a Mrtka this year
There is no chance of the Blackhawks making the playoffs. Defense and goaltending are pants, and the only teams in the west who made the playoffs last season who got worse are vegas and (arguably) the kings.
Canucks and Winnipeg are worse than they were last year
Playoffs is such a hot take lol!
Guys, what an entertaining preview! An Jesse really has a point. He convinced me, they would definitely be higher than 7th in division.
I get the point of the Hawks being better, but are they better than the Stars, Preds, Avs, Utes, and Jets?
no, they're not, they're also not better than Blues or Wild. Jesse is off his mind
No not at all lol
@@LukaDialogueBlues aren’t looking too great either
Regardless if they don't make the playoffs, the Blackhawks will be very competitive and fun to watch. The most underrated part of being a fan is watching potential and development.
I dont mind this format for previews, and i get that ita probably better in terms of numbers. But honestly i think a livesteam closer to the start of the season where yall predict each division would be a lot more fun. Even if less in depth
also them having 52 points last season was largely due to the fact that they were easily one of the most injured teams in the league. they didn't have many good players to begin with and the ones they did have were all injured at one point (Hall, Athanasiou, Bedard, Foligno, Jones and more). they were claiming random guys off waivers and bringing up AHL nobodies just to ice a team at one point. if all of those players have relatively healthy seasons and they actually have a quality NHL-caliber supporting cast now, I can see a huge swing in points. also they have an actual backup goalie now who's not basically an automatic L on the scoresheet.
I’m on Jesse’s side here, in fact I think they are a 100 point team this season. I can’t back it up but I’m going out on a limb. The central is so stacked tho that I have them as the second wildcard even with 100 points, very unlikely to happen but I’m all here for it!
Jessie as a Hawks fan I love you
Excited to watch Bedard continue to grow into the inevitable freak of nature superstar but not expecting much else from the Hawks. They will definitely be more watchable than last years squad though I’ll tell you that for free.
Did Jesse Blake just put a G$ note down on the Blackhawks making the playoffs?
That’s gotta be a good payout!!😮😮😂😂
Here’s the deal
I lived in Chicago last season, I went to 10 games last year. Bedard didn’t record a goal or a point in the games I watched
To be very fair, he’s an engaging player and it was hard not to notice him and I know that he will be special and that people will look at this fact and laugh in the distant future
This team will get better, Broissaint is better, but they have to do better at home. This year ain’t their year for a post season, but a time when they crush the hearts of other central division opponents like the early 2010’s are on the horizon
I'm with Jesse on bedard getting 100 points this year. Fantasy people are not ready
Levshunov will prolly spend the season down in Rockford. I’m hoping that the Icehogs make the playoffs. As a hawks fan, we’ll make a big step but we’re not making playoffs just yet. Could see us 5th or 6th in division
Mrazek was back-up in Prague this year. Dostal was the starter.
Levshunov is going to be in Rockford this year he's not making the Blackhawks this season. I wonder if your leaf bias doesn't understand how well Mrazek is because your dump him on us because the Leafs wanted were so ready to get rid of him. Mrazek has worked out great in Chicago has 2 years on his deal. Our top goalie prospect Drew Commesso is in Rockford he's going be cooking in Rockford till Mrazek deal is done.
The Flyers and Blackhawks are gonna have a rematch in the Stanley Cup Final in 2025... ;)
The situations are so diff, Crosby had better pieces in place and Malkin and Fluery, McDavid had prime Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Talbot, Etc. Bedard has no one on that level still the hawks are not making the playoffs lol
And the devils had just Hughes and a bunch of good young guys they rode that to the playoffs
Hall wasn't on that roster. They had draisaitl tho. But oilers had brossoit that year now Chicago has brossoit = playoffs
The Hawks finished with 52 points. Getting 60 would be nice.
Mrazek is better than you are giving him credit for
Will hawks make top 3 in division? (Avs, Preds, Stars) no. Take either wc spot? (Kings ((doughty injured)) Jets), 50/50. All depends on small variables. But their roster doesn't look terrible by any means.
Peter mrazek was the backup on the wordz champions Czechia.
Sorry fellas, you're usually bang on but there's no way they get more than 62 points
A team with Bertuzzi Teravainen, Bedard, Hall is better than 62😂
Asking Bedard to come up with 100 with still not enough around him is unfair. There is no definite number 2 scoring threat on this team. It’s a shame. It’s like watching Caleb Williams on the bears. No help for him either. Being a chicago fan is tough.
Blackhawks in fourth means that they beat at least 1 of either the Preds, Jets, Stars, or Avs. I don't know about that.
Jesse... The central has the Avs, Jets, Stars and the Preds. I think the most likely out of the four I listed to drop to fifth are the Jets, and even that is a STRETCH and a half. I can see them finishing 5th with some luck on their side. Now the funny thing is, imo they could still make the playoffs like that since the pacific is lookin kinda thin, you have the top three of EDM, VGK, and VAN, and then the rest. There is actually a semi-realistic scenario where the hawks get more points than the kings for example, but everything would have to go absolutely right for them.
Blues 4th, jets 5th, both wild card teams.
@@anthonyfaccaro7118blues don’t have a prayer of sniffing the playoffs this year, hawks actually have an outside chance of snagging a 5th place wildcard
Bad take Blake strikes again!
If Im not mistaken, this is the last west team for them to go through, right?
They haven't done Avs I think
The doing West to east and reverse alphabetical order it seems
They should legit throw an offer sheet at Swayman.
Just saying.
If they finish 5th and push for a spot but not get it.
Mid range draft pick, and the bedard and company get way better.
The draft picks might not be the loss you’d imagine for Swayman.
Blackhawks fan here. I give them a 1/8 chance of making the playoffs. Most likely scenario is finishing 6-12th from the bottom
Let's say this: their chance this year is not zero, unlike last year lol
As a die hard hawks fan… this team is still abysmal. Bedard, like last year will be the only player teams will keen on. Secondary scoring? May I ask where from?
They’re objectively better “on paper” than they were last year. That being said 10 new bodies in the line up need time to gel. Jesse just gets too hyped up about young stars. Bedard, Faber, Hughes, etc. Hockey is a team game.
Jesse buddy cmon the hawks are gonna be a better non playoff team but not playoffs yet. if they do I’d be shocked
jesse trying to hype up the bee dard, failor hall...by the time he's at brossoit it's like.. _this is your brain on drugs_
I’m a massive hawks fan and we are definitely not making the playoffs.
Bedard gets over 100 points? Chicago makes the playoffs
Connor Bedard is Auston Mathews if he was mid. They will never be good again
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You're on drugs if you think they're making the playoffs. Both teams you mentioned had at three elite players. They have one
Is it so crazy to think Chicago can develop one of their young guys to elite?
@@matthewsimonds3346 it's not getting one of they're young guys to an elite level that's the problem. They would need 2 of their young guys to hit that elite level and all their guys would have to stay healthy.
For mcdavid and Edmonton. Edmonton was bad for several years before they got McDavid and had piled up prospects/draft picks. Pittsburgh with Crosby was in a sort of similar situation.
Chicago is still in a situation where they need one more top draft pick center. It's too early in the rebuild to worry about playoffs. What they need to do right now is not trade away futures, build up a few more Blue Chip prospects and give their young guys time to really develop into stars. If they want to make the playoffs this year, they're going to have to trade futures. They're going to have to pick up more pieces and I think that's dumb.
@@Slidezy you’re acting like I’m thinking they are contenders. They absolutely are not. But they have the pieces to POTENTIALLY emerge as a good team. And even a good team to sneak into a playoff spot. Yes a lot has to go right and yeah it’s not the goal to make the playoffs but it CAN happen
Can’t wait to see how dumb Jesse will look when the hawks finish as one of the worst teams in the
blues slanders got to stop man😔
Man Jesse's takes are becoming worse than Adam.
Malkin >>>>> Bertuzzi OR Hall OR Teravainen; lol Jesse what are you huffing
Love Jessies enthusiasm for my Hawks! If we can get off to a hot start I think its possible. My only concerns would be injuries. Hall probably will get hurt again. Arie is already hurt and missing a few weeks, and LB is already going to miss a few weeks. Hopefully Bedard takes that step. As a STH i would love for the hawks to roll. But either way its going to be a fun team to watch at the UC! LETS GO HAWKS!
This Preds fan hopes that the Hawks remain in the doldrums for the next decade with a first round pick record like that of the Oilers...short of a McDavid. 😅
Now you’re just fantasizing at this point
They'll end up with like 76 points lol, no chance they make the playoffs
Normally I side with Jesse, but he’s completely out of touch with reality here. No way Chicago makes the playoffs this season.
Some of the worst Blackhawks related commentary I’ve ever seen
All i heard is Chicago will make the playoffs because BEDARD because GENERATIONAL.
What if he is not ? What if he simply is Elite or good ? What if the marketing department of the NHL fucked up again ?
If he is generational he still needs 10x the talent around him to make the playoffs and have a small shot at anything.
Have you even watched bedard? He has such great talent at such a young age
And completely alone
Worse than last year
Jesse is delusional
Bedard will have maximum 40points
If you think this is a playoff team you can just cancel the pod and the rest of the preveiws, your credibilty is gone and you no longer deserve a voice on these topics.
People said the flyers were trash last year and were in a playoff spot all season until the end. And year prior everyone thought the devils would be bad and they had 112 points. And last year the Canucks were projected to be decent and they won their division. Stop being so negative
Geez, tell me you don't follow hockey outside of Toronto, without telling me you dont follow hockey outside of Toronto.
This black guy has no sense of hockey..... Blackhawks will be luvky to be wild card position THIS YEAR
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