ZvZ is simply unacceptable. I just don't see how you could look at this and say "this is great content" especially after your other challenges. I'm not giving you a thumbs down but im getting close. Still love you
whenever zergling vs zergling is involved its impossible to tell whats going on from the art direction standpoint. even blizzard gave up on anyone caring about zvz
Okay but to be fair we needed something fresh and you aren’t going to get years of content with just Terran. He’s breaking the meta on all levels and even tied dark as a retired player and this is the breath of fresh air sc2 needs
The second zerg might have figured out what you were doing because he saw your second overlord. Seeing a fast second overlord in zvz means you are safe from 12 pools/one bases because those builds delay the second overlord.
Loved both games, but it was really hard figuring out which lings were winning the fight. If you prefer to stick to the purple color, maybe you can change the opponent to white or something so it would be easier to see them.
15:30 nice oldschool z-z game .was fun to see. opponent played it down cleanly, has certainly played broodwar before and was familiar with what was happening. this is what every z-z used to look like
Tbh you're the reason I got into sc2 uthermal and it's great to watch you play zerg, the race I picked, thanks for the videos man! Proxy hatch is amazing
Hey thermy, big fan here of all the challenge series Have you heard about the nightmare difficulty mod for wol and hots? I've enjoyed videos from giantgrantgames and lowko playing through them, I wonder what you would cook up for some of the harder missions
yes zerg is just a tad bit boring compared to Terran. I think mass oracles zealot could be fun. I also miss the longer videos but maybe these shorter ones are better for ad revenue or the algorithms. I could be wrong. Ghost was probably the best but I have grown to appreciate bongcloud more recently rewatching that one. I wonder if there would be some other similar challenges to the bongcloud. maybe add something to spice up the ghost challenge
And how he would line them up. A perfect line of little cute ghosties. I wish he could customize them so you could make them look like Nova. I remember StarCraft ghost preview from blizzcon 1 and I loved the idea of it
Marc we follow and watch you for you. Keep doing your own thing it is working and experiment all you want. I remember back in the day(2-3 years ago) when you were full time pro and lowko would cast your matches i knew good content was coming. From Canada with love. PS thank you and your fellow countrymen for all the tulips.
Hey, thanks for all the amazing content! Been following for several months now - I literally know next to nothing about SC but I love watching you play and try out new things - super satisfying! One thought I had if you wanted to make your challenges slightly harder is to not be allowed to kill any mistakenly made units (but obv. you still can’t use them) so it’s a bit more punishing on the supply side. Anyways, keep it up, you passion and dedication is appreciated!
I am pretty sure the first zerg player just wanted to avoid having his lings scouted and ended up A-moving to your secret base. That is why he was puzzled.
Love your vids, been watching you for a couple of weeks now, started playing starcarft too for the first time lol dont know why you got recommended to me, but im glad about it :D
I do remember the good old BW ZvZ knife fights. Always fun but over oh so quickly. If someone now has an itch for it: the most current video on the ArtosisCast channel is one such knife fight.
SIEGE TANKS and VIKINGS only! They each offer two modes, so it's basically 4 units and they compliment eachother well, but it would still be a fun challenge.
I started playing the ranked ladder for the first time ever. I'm rubbish, lost the first 2 games, then i had the same guy start and quit straight away on two games. I ended up getting stuck in the gold league and haven't won a game ever. I'm living the bleeding MMR dream. Looking forward to playing someone rubbish eventually. Maybe.
I don’t even play this game but I love watching your videos. I don’t understand why people care so much about what you play. However, I do like watching your cheese builds more than ones where you limit yourself to certain units and force yourself to build into a worse army.
What about trying fast 3 hatch to mass queens, build a nidus, worm the 2 proxy bases then worm the enemy base so all the queens from all 3 bases can flood in.
Thermy ur a LEGEND. i havent played in yrs , since broodwar and only money money money maps. you are the only SC streamer i watch and i dont feel like im missing out. I love your strats and you commentary. thank you for the content, i look forward to your videos everyday. again thank you man for being the GOAT!
I prefer a range of video times from a channel. Sometimes I want a 15 minute video, sometimes a 45 minute video. I'm glad to see the variety and it was the reason I clicked this video.
I am still disappointed to bot yet have seen you try an evolution chamber rush in zerg vs zerg. You literally just block out there mineral patches with evolution chambers until they can't reach any miracle spots. It's very micro oriented, utilizing any Evo chambers that die, to have a sudden burst of broodlings. It's super fun to watch
before i watched the video, i was going to suggest burrowing lings to use as sight in their base in ZvZ and try a nydus attack. Could be interesting. Good video, thanks for sharing Marc :) PS could you theoretically use a bunch of neurals in a zvz matchup to neural their drones in their mineral line and force them to morph into spines? And if so, would you be in control of the spines? Just a random thought that jumped into my head xD
IDK. The fact that these guys found your 2nd base that fast is pretty sus. Would be curious to see the replays on their end. Did they just scout around looking for proxies or did they go right two them (ie map hack)
YO! You are a real relatable dude, thanks for the vids. Question, I am waiting to really "try" the SC ladder. Im thinking I need at least 4 hours a day to dedicate. Does that sound right?
I think this strategy would work much way better if you would go for proxy hatch in rich minerals (on map that has them). Or maybe also go for proxy hatch in rich gas for faster mutas? I mean even if you got found out quickly it should still go much better than this games.
Hey Uthermal, Love your recent content! Have you ever heard of Evolutionary Stable Strategy? I get a kick how you always mess around with the current metas and throw in wretches to the entrenched common winning strategies by forcing opponents to not rule out the typically nonviable builds.
Hmm, new serie suggestion: Transformers to GM. Terran, but only using transforming units, like Vikings (Transformers seekers, Starscream), Hellion-Hellbats, Tanks can be tranformed in a way… use Purple, decepticons 😸
If you want more clicks, watch veritasiums video on the topic (or his Twitter sometimes). He also almost always changes the thumbnail and the title a few hours after uploading. I think smarter every day also did a video on RUclips algorithm on getting clicks.
@@aria_svitkona887 Ah well this one is quite simple, I just have to proxy a hatch anywhere in any way and then it's just up to me to get creative and fun with it I guess :P
Re: titles - the search engine works on key words. If you don't put the key words in there, it's hard to find. A good descriptive title is always a plus. Also, if you're experimenting with titles, avoid clickbaity titles with crap like "most [superlative] [noun] EVAR! and the typical soyface thumbnails. If I see stuff like that I typically refuse to watch just on principle. If you're videos are good, they're speak for themselves without that kind of juvenile crap. This video for example should have "Proxy hatch to GM" in it, then add what you have here, and that's good. IMO, of course. $0.02.
ZvZ is simply unacceptable. I just don't see how you could look at this and say "this is great content" especially after your other challenges. I'm not giving you a thumbs down but im getting close. Still love you
whenever zergling vs zergling is involved its impossible to tell whats going on from the art direction standpoint. even blizzard gave up on anyone caring about zvz
Okay but to be fair we needed something fresh and you aren’t going to get years of content with just Terran. He’s breaking the meta on all levels and even tied dark as a retired player and this is the breath of fresh air sc2 needs
To be fair a Pin of shame is always great content
I swear I'd still be playing this game if it wasn't for the FKn $hit zvz matchup!
I don't mind this at all. I am here to see uthermal play and for his personality.
good stuff man, your terran strats reminds me of what Slayer_BoXer would pull off back in the sc/bw days
The second zerg might have figured out what you were doing because he saw your second overlord. Seeing a fast second overlord in zvz means you are safe from 12 pools/one bases because those builds delay the second overlord.
Or maybe a Map hack? :D
Loved both games, but it was really hard figuring out which lings were winning the fight. If you prefer to stick to the purple color, maybe you can change the opponent to white or something so it would be easier to see them.
Dark green looks oddly good on zerg, counterintuitively.
15:30 nice oldschool z-z game .was fun to see. opponent played it down cleanly, has certainly played broodwar before and was familiar with what was happening.
this is what every z-z used to look like
Keep up the great content! Entertaining as always.
Tbh you're the reason I got into sc2 uthermal and it's great to watch you play zerg, the race I picked, thanks for the videos man! Proxy hatch is amazing
Thermy, I've been on YT for a while, and you're by far the only person who I watched every video of. Thank you so much for the superb content!
I agree. Seeing more burrow tactics would be great.
I love burrow early, IMO there's a reason it's hatch level tech
Hey thermy, big fan here of all the challenge series
Have you heard about the nightmare difficulty mod for wol and hots? I've enjoyed videos from giantgrantgames and lowko playing through them, I wonder what you would cook up for some of the harder missions
Would love to see you play some of your old challenges from times to times. I miss mass ghost so much
yes zerg is just a tad bit boring compared to Terran. I think mass oracles zealot could be fun. I also miss the longer videos but maybe these shorter ones are better for ad revenue or the algorithms. I could be wrong. Ghost was probably the best but I have grown to appreciate bongcloud more recently rewatching that one. I wonder if there would be some other similar challenges to the bongcloud. maybe add something to spice up the ghost challenge
Same, Ghosts was definitely the most interesting and fun
And how he would line them up. A perfect line of little cute ghosties. I wish he could customize them so you could make them look like Nova. I remember StarCraft ghost preview from blizzcon 1 and I loved the idea of it
@@Scawtsauce cannon rush to gm would generate so much salt
Mass ghosts was a banger.
I liked mass raven too.
Marc we follow and watch you for you. Keep doing your own thing it is working and experiment all you want. I remember back in the day(2-3 years ago) when you were full time pro and lowko would cast your matches i knew good content was coming. From Canada with love. PS thank you and your fellow countrymen for all the tulips.
Hey, thanks for all the amazing content! Been following for several months now - I literally know next to nothing about SC but I love watching you play and try out new things - super satisfying!
One thought I had if you wanted to make your challenges slightly harder is to not be allowed to kill any mistakenly made units (but obv. you still can’t use them) so it’s a bit more punishing on the supply side.
Anyways, keep it up, you passion and dedication is appreciated!
I am Enjoying this challenge. Fun to see you try new things. Definitely excited for more challenges from all races.
I wish there was a catalog of saved replays somewhere. I'd love to analyze them thoroughly.
I am pretty sure the first zerg player just wanted to avoid having his lings scouted and ended up A-moving to your secret base. That is why he was puzzled.
I love this guy. Very entertaining and alpha goofy vibe. Don’t even play the game but love watchin this dude.
Love your vids,
been watching you for a couple of weeks now,
started playing starcarft too for the first time lol
dont know why you got recommended to me, but im glad about it :D
burrowed banelings are the starcraft1 spider mines for the zerg in SCII.
New to your channel.
Reslly enjoy your videos. Crazy you can talk and play so fluidly!
I can't say how sweet it is when a creator creates playlists for series,
Trying to build a base in secret, without having a natural, is ridiculous. The opponent will instantly guess that there is a base elsewhere...
Hey! Don't usually comment, but I would LOVE to see Zerg to GM series; Muta to GM ultras to GM etc. Think it would be awesome to mix in with Terran!
I don't think that's possible as Terran can't build those units
@@Ole_Rasmussen Guess we'll have to start as Zerg and neural an SCV
Isn't there a way to increase how vivid the team colors are? Might make things more visible in zvz
I do remember the good old BW ZvZ knife fights. Always fun but over oh so quickly.
If someone now has an itch for it: the most current video on the ArtosisCast channel is one such knife fight.
SIEGE TANKS and VIKINGS only! They each offer two modes, so it's basically 4 units and they compliment eachother well, but it would still be a fun challenge.
I started playing the ranked ladder for the first time ever. I'm rubbish, lost the first 2 games, then i had the same guy start and quit straight away on two games. I ended up getting stuck in the gold league and haven't won a game ever. I'm living the bleeding MMR dream.
Looking forward to playing someone rubbish eventually. Maybe.
When a plan works out as intended, it's beautiful
I love to see other races. Well done Marc!
Not enough zerg players use burrow.
Not enough use burrowed banelings.
Not enough use overlords filled with kings dropping on top of long armies
I don’t even play this game but I love watching your videos. I don’t understand why people care so much about what you play. However, I do like watching your cheese builds more than ones where you limit yourself to certain units and force yourself to build into a worse army.
Loving the new series!
"Actually, I'm not gonna lie. I couldn't even tell if those were my lings or his."
Me watching any ling v ling fight.
Each ohne of your videos breaks the meta. :) Youre a starcraft youtube meta video machine. :P
Question: what is the actual max saturation point of a base for mining workers? Also suggestion: lings/broodlord to GM?
The base literally tells you how many workers to use.
@@ShimmeringSword read slower
@@NVMDSTEvil write more descriptively.
I love those "Zerg - Bong Cloud to GM" episodes :D
I've enjoyed the Zergling episode very much! Reminds me of many good times I had while watching your great content.
You should try and work in overlord speed early to help with scouting
What about trying fast 3 hatch to mass queens, build a nidus, worm the 2 proxy bases then worm the enemy base so all the queens from all 3 bases can flood in.
Lurker rushes and dropper lords/ nydus my be your thing for late game. would be cool to see too
Thermy ur a LEGEND. i havent played in yrs , since broodwar and only money money money maps. you are the only SC streamer i watch and i dont feel like im missing out. I love your strats and you commentary. thank you for the content, i look forward to your videos everyday. again thank you man for being the GOAT!
Sky toss to GM next...?
Love the videos! After the Zerg series, can we see a Protoss series? If yes, can we see mass void rays to gm?
I really enjoy your RUclips channel!!
i cant tell the diff between your zerg and their zerg, so idk how youre able to do it when actually playing
Would a spine drop be possible? Have an overlord drop a handful of spine crawlers into their main 🤷♂️
i will watch all your proxy hatch videos
mutas worked great for the first game but I feel like second game needed either roaches or lurkers to deal with the mass lings
This particular style was really fun to watch.
Enjoy every video, prefer the episodes be closer to 30 minutes or longer!
I prefer a range of video times from a channel. Sometimes I want a 15 minute video, sometimes a 45 minute video. I'm glad to see the variety and it was the reason I clicked this video.
My usual CC 1st got rekt 2 times with proxy hatch ravagers in Diamond. Both of them learned it from you! What have you done?! :D
I am still disappointed to bot yet have seen you try an evolution chamber rush in zerg vs zerg. You literally just block out there mineral patches with evolution chambers until they can't reach any miracle spots. It's very micro oriented, utilizing any Evo chambers that die, to have a sudden burst of broodlings. It's super fun to watch
2:30 whats the problem. Just watch all Videos.
before i watched the video, i was going to suggest burrowing lings to use as sight in their base in ZvZ and try a nydus attack. Could be interesting. Good video, thanks for sharing Marc :)
PS could you theoretically use a bunch of neurals in a zvz matchup to neural their drones in their mineral line and force them to morph into spines? And if so, would you be in control of the spines? Just a random thought that jumped into my head xD
IDK. The fact that these guys found your 2nd base that fast is pretty sus. Would be curious to see the replays on their end. Did they just scout around looking for proxies or did they go right two them (ie map hack)
Can you do a 1v3, we’re you start with 3k mineral and 2k gas, but you can’t attack for 6 min, or something like this?
2nd game could he have moved queens out because his lings scouted no units coming?
I can't tell which troops are yours. You should use green or some random bright color
@uThermal is it really a proxy hatch if it is being built in a base that would eventually be yours anyway?
I really want you to use the proxy hatch to steal your opponents minerals.
You could always put if a video is from a series in particular in the description so at least people know.
I don't have any complaints personally.
I don't normally like videos. But for uthermal, I like before I watch. I know it's going to be a banger.
can you try to make ultralisk rush in zvz ?
Title doesnt matter, i see a uthermal video -> i click.
Thanks for all the great content 🙌
YO! You are a real relatable dude, thanks for the vids. Question, I am waiting to really "try" the SC ladder. Im thinking I need at least 4 hours a day to dedicate. Does that sound right?
How does Uthermal always know what unit number count is? specifically drones? any one?
Hover your mouse over the top right button
@@uThermal Its so cool that you respond to your viewers dude, God Bless and have a good one. TY!
Hey uThermal, it is very difficult to track what is happening when you and opp have similar colors. Why dont you use green vs red setting?
try the 5 hatch open i put on allthingszerg :D
id like to see if it works at higher mmr rofl!
just curious, can you walk spines through a nydus? would be very good for defending and then putting on good damage
No
I'd love to see a burrowed to grandmaster, big fan of your show!
Great video!
I think this strategy would work much way better if you would go for proxy hatch in rich minerals (on map that has them). Or maybe also go for proxy hatch in rich gas for faster mutas? I mean even if you got found out quickly it should still go much better than this games.
Hey Uthermal, Love your recent content!
Have you ever heard of Evolutionary Stable Strategy? I get a kick how you always mess around with the current metas and throw in wretches to the entrenched common winning strategies by forcing opponents to not rule out the typically nonviable builds.
>I've broken the meta
Thank you, much appreciated. Facebook is pretty horrible.
Question mark to be renamed to question Marc
Get 2 admins. Queue into 3v3. Have both admins leave. Play a 1v3 using all three races.
Nice Brood War content!
Hmm, new serie suggestion:
Transformers to GM. Terran, but only using transforming units, like Vikings (Transformers seekers, Starscream), Hellion-Hellbats, Tanks can be tranformed in a way… use Purple, decepticons 😸
Burrow rush when
CareAgain. I see what you did there. 👍
Nice games. loving it
Still waiting for the protoss to GM
Maybe the lings vs lings micro would be more watchable and playable if you didnt play with purple vs red colors :D
You should shake up a player by spamming like 5 nyduses in random locations, imagine how thrown off they would be
Love it :). You can call it the unnatural build.
Still the most banger intro.
Tienes un aire al comediante español santiago segura xD
If you want more clicks, watch veritasiums video on the topic (or his Twitter sometimes). He also almost always changes the thumbnail and the title a few hours after uploading.
I think smarter every day also did a video on RUclips algorithm on getting clicks.
It would be nice if you put the name of the series in the description, otherwise i often dont know what you are actually plaing 😅😅
Its the first thing I say in every video xD
@@uThermal yes i know, but what are the rules. Because in this video i couldn't find out how you really played different 😅
@@aria_svitkona887 Ah well this one is quite simple, I just have to proxy a hatch anywhere in any way and then it's just up to me to get creative and fun with it I guess :P
@@uThermal cool, thank you!
I am here for the spinecrawler to grandmaster lolz.
Re: titles - the search engine works on key words. If you don't put the key words in there, it's hard to find. A good descriptive title is always a plus. Also, if you're experimenting with titles, avoid clickbaity titles with crap like "most [superlative] [noun] EVAR! and the typical soyface thumbnails. If I see stuff like that I typically refuse to watch just on principle. If you're videos are good, they're speak for themselves without that kind of juvenile crap. This video for example should have "Proxy hatch to GM" in it, then add what you have here, and that's good. IMO, of course. $0.02.
Challenge: look like a noob in your main while building up the proxy. Let them destroy the main and win the game off the false base
You are so fuckin' awesome I can totally forgive your clickbait titles. :D
Flood till you drop!
Love this challenge, zvz so good
zvz? Sneak in a creep tumor into their creep without them noticing, be the spy they never expect.
Is favorite series so far
i want to see spore and spine crawler to gm 😂😂
This is just the bronze special
Splitties!