You have a point here. The police officers are pretty incompetent anyway here but I would be angry aswell when everything is so messy. JP saying he is innocent and then he comes back and says he did it. After a short time, Sally comes in and says she did it. It made me laugh because it was too messy.
Yeah you would think other officers would take over. But it would not have mattered all police at station probably all know each other. So they would all take george's side.
I don’t feel a bit sorry for Sally. She could have gotten a support from the law for stopping an assault in progress. But she let it fester over her own son’s head… because… [bad writing?]
I'm sorry but this isn't fair, at all at John Paul's Mom Sally confessed, she did it but, John Paul is still taking the fall, for his mom and Theresa here. Speechless here!.
Poor John Paul. Poor Mathew.. I dont want him to be in prison for long. I hate seeing him like that. Now we have to wait like another month for any more story line. Grrrre
Do the writers deliberately choose to have their characters make the most irrational decisions? JP thinks staying in prison is giving Sally what she deserves???
I don´t think that the producers care about what the viewers want. They only care about messing up things and not making anything realistic. There always must be strange twists and turns for the sake of it (soap opera) regardless if it is good storytelling or not.
@@stvp68 Yes, I think the producers mess this up too much. It doesn´t make sense that JP would miss George but just being sorry and in shock for all the things that have happened. Also understanding that Sally hit George in the head because of self-defense for Theresa. If someone is violent and manipulative, your instinct tells you to get as far away as possible from that person instead of confronting him or her. Even if Theresa is a bit stupid, it doesn´t make sense that she would do such a thing.
@Jimmy Pisswhistle Do you have anything against transpeople?? For your information the actress that plays Sally is a transwoman meaning she is a WOMAN. She was born in a man´s body but has now become a woman which she desires and we should all show RESPECT for those people who dare to come out as they feel they are!! Get more information about transpeople and educate yourself!!!
Ok I'm done with showing sympathy for John Paul for his messed up mentality...first he hated what George did to him and after knowing the truth to what happened to his abusive bf, he takes the blame??
@Capal Watcher He has a son! In all his pain and misery that he went through did he ever once stop to consider how this is affecting Matthew? Why should he want to go to prison for a crime he knows he didn't commit just to satisfy his sense of guilt and selfish pity? He should grow up and start acting like a real parent.
He's the Male Ophelia of Hollyoaks. Just like Whitney on Eastenders. Poor Sally, she loves her Boy so much and the fact that he accepted Sally being a MTF, is beautiful.
Ugh really hate jp, and Cohen. So sick of this storyline and jp's pinning for that dead abuser. Sally is too good of a mum for him And that's really saying something
Well if Sally goes to woman’s prison J.K. Rowling’s is going to have an aneurism. I hope they use this storyline to explore some of the transphobic and TERF issues going on in the UK.
@@bubblezzxxd15 - Murder is more of an unlawful killing with intent/pre-meditation. Whereas she arguably killed him by accident, she intended to stop him from hurting Theresa, so it could be argued it was more of a defensive strike. So she factually killed him but murder is up for debate.
Cohen is thick! She should have at least looked into it what Sally said. The McQueens on the otherhand have always been a selfish bunch. Not surprising at all that they would let the only boy in family go down for murder that they committed when they should have just stayed out of it. Any man born into the McQueen household is truly cursed. Poor Matthew... Also I don't understand why JP loved George so much. He only knew for a year and all they did was fool around alot. That doesn't seem like love. Plus when did we ever see George ever try to bond with Matthew or any other McQueens? NEVER! That is not love! How could JP not see that? He's turning out to be as shitty a dad as his Dad was.
How's he gonna stop her from seeing her own grandson when he's in prison. He won't get to choose the carer. The writers of this show have clearly given up on common sense
That is--indeed--one way of describing her ensemble. Another way, is that since Marnie's business , "Salon de The", is French in inspiration, her black-and-white fashion could be an homage to the French fashion icon, Gabrielle "Coco" Chanel whose beloved colour-combination was black-and-white.
John Paul are you crazy! Why would you want to stay with someone who's so abusive. I've seen it too many times with Friends and they think it's normal. One Friend I had had a Boyfriend who needed to know where she was all of the time, he was very insecure and jealous. His Mother kicked his Father out for being mean to her and he never came around after that, I think he blamed her for it.
This is too messy and really bad storytelling. JP wants to punish Sally for what she did in self-defense. He misses George even if he could see how dangerous and manipulative he was. Doesn´t make any sense anywhere.
@yeah up yours too buddy Sally was defending Theresa and herself as George was dangerous and stronger than both of them. In the eyes of the law it may be something different but that is what happened. Ella was defending Charlie and had NOT the INTENT to kill him. I also think that the intent was to hit George in the head so he would stop threatening both of them and was a survival instinct as Sally knew about George and him threatening her in the past that made her afraid and cried. She didn´t think that he was going to die. Theresa was stupid to run to him as she did not realize how dangerous he was and Sally ran after her to protect her.
@yeah up yours too buddy In court in real life, they must prove that Sally had the INTENT to murder him which she did not have. People do wrong things in the heat of the moment which happened here. Sally did not plan to kill George but both Theresa and Sally did the wrong thing to ran after George. They should have called the police to tell them exactly what happened and that George was about to leave the village and the way he had abused JP regardless of he himself was a policeman or not. The problem is that Sally and Theresa lies to the police which make their work more difficult and that is not good for the outcome. If Sally had told the police at once that she hit George in the head in order to protect Theresa, they would understand that it was self-defense or maybe manslaughter but MURDER, NO. Hollyoaks is a soap and they do not always make things realistic.
They are drawing this out so thin... Everyone is gonna need a good therapist. At this point, I wouldn't doubt if the therapist will be JP's next love interest. 😮😩 Seems like Kiss is still twisting everything to his own liking in the afterlife...
Ok. I'll say it. Did kiss deserve to be punished? yes. Did he have to lose his life? no. But I'm I sad that the world is short a sorry waste of a human like kiss? Nope! That demon got exactly what was coming his way. I'm surprised they all didn't bury and hide the body. Could you imagine what Branden would've done to kiss if he did the that to Ste?
Esa es una buena pregunta. Pero si planean mantener las cámaras en la línea de la historia, entonces probablemente pasará un tiempo antes de que las presenten. Sospecho que los escritores y productores quieren prolongar la trama por un tiempo; Para que la audiencia pueda reconocer los signos de una relación tóxica: That is a good question. But if they plan to keep cameras in the story-line, then it's probably going to be a while before they introduce them. I suspect that the writers and producers want to prolong the story-line for a while; So the audience can recognize the signs of a toxic relationship.
But I think they have dragged this story out in wrong direction away from domestic abuse and into false imprisme t and drag that out for few more month. Is George actually dead was confirmed by a none corrupt person. But I think they have dragged this story out in wrong direction away from domestic abuse and into false imprisme t and drag that out for few more month. Is George actually dead was confirmed by a none corrupt person. Sorry I can't translate for you Sorry I can't translate well for you
Oh my OA! 😱😱😱😱 John Paul how in the name of The OA could you turn yourself in like that when you knew that your Mother Sally St. Claire was the one who killed your Ex-Fiancé George? 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 And your even blaming her for killing him when he was abusing you? 🤨🤨🤨🤨 Even George’s ghost must’ve gotten John Paul underneath his finger! 😔😔😔😔 I just hope John Paul will get released and Sally St. Claire will actually do what’s right! 😟😟😟😟🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 What do you People think???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Late to the party since I got bored and haven't watched for weeks. Can we please have a tiny bit of realistic policing in the show just once? At this point its like watching a fantasy/comedy show, so much ridiculous crap.
I respect a criminal that turns himself in. Edit: Okay so just letting everyone be aware that I'm quoting to criminals, not sally otherwise I would have quoted "I respect Sally for turning herself in". If you're gonna get offended over a harmless comment then I don't care. I'm not here to make fun of anyone's gender, I'm here to have fun. I thought society knew better than this instead all they care about is woke gender and race identities in this miserable world.
@@KamiTenchi it’s you being transphobic not her being a SJW or something . Why do you care what someone has under there pants I don’t think you will go to bed with sally ? Biology and society is different we don’t live in a world which is ruled by biology if we did women would be at home cooking food for a bigot like you
@Maa kali ki Dasi What are you talking about? I don't care about gender plus this is just a quote! I was referencing a criminal, not Sally! No, we live in a world ruled by SJW like you everywhere. Perhaps I should have this more clear but overall I do this everywhere and nobody has a problem 😂
You know what, the fact sally turned herself in sums up her character. Real gold ❤️
Surely These Officers Shouldn't Be Allowed To Investigate This Case Due To Personally Knowing George??
You have a point here. The police officers are pretty incompetent anyway here but I would be angry aswell when everything is so messy. JP saying he is innocent and then he comes back and says he did it. After a short time, Sally comes in and says she did it. It made me laugh because it was too messy.
Yeah you would think other officers would take over. But it would not have mattered all police at station probably all know each other. So they would all take george's side.
@@carragh244xx
She’s in charge of every case recently. She doesn’t do a good job.
They never do. They go for the most obvious suspect without a decent investigation, and they miss blatant clues that are right under their nose.
This dc cohen absolutely irritates me with EVERY case not even just this one god she needs karma
JP is really messed up. Kiss has really destroyed him.
A toxic relatiinship can do that to anybody.
Sally is such a good character
Sally should have told the truth in the begining so I question her character
@Youvo geezer
I feel so bad for John Paul and Sally💔💔💔. This is not fair😢.
I don’t feel a bit sorry for Sally. She could have gotten a support from the law for stopping an assault in progress. But she let it fester over her own son’s head… because… [bad writing?]
I'm sorry but this isn't fair, at all at John Paul's Mom Sally confessed, she did it but, John Paul is still taking the fall, for his mom and Theresa here. Speechless here!.
Sally is he’s Dad you idiot, Myra is he’s Mum
Poor John Paul. Poor Mathew.. I dont want him to be in prison for long. I hate seeing him like that. Now we have to wait like another month for any more story line. Grrrre
They need to get Dean to back up the claims of George's abuse...you can't arrest someone for bothering the police..Theresa is very annoying!!
Do the writers deliberately choose to have their characters make the most irrational decisions? JP thinks staying in prison is giving Sally what she deserves???
I don´t think that the producers care about what the viewers want. They only care about messing up things and not making anything realistic. There always must be strange twists and turns for the sake of it (soap opera) regardless if it is good storytelling or not.
@@ann-christinenilsson4046 sure does seem that way!
@@stvp68 Yes, I think the producers mess this up too much. It doesn´t make sense that JP would miss George but just being sorry and in shock for all the things that have happened. Also understanding that Sally hit George in the head because of self-defense for Theresa. If someone is violent and manipulative, your instinct tells you to get as far away as possible from that person instead of confronting him or her. Even if Theresa is a bit stupid, it doesn´t make sense that she would do such a thing.
@Jimmy Pisswhistle She is not a man in a wig.
@Jimmy Pisswhistle Do you have anything against transpeople?? For your information the actress that plays Sally is a transwoman meaning she is a WOMAN. She was born in a man´s body but has now become a woman which she desires and we should all show RESPECT for those people who dare to come out as they feel they are!! Get more information about transpeople and educate yourself!!!
Ok I'm done with showing sympathy for John Paul for his messed up mentality...first he hated what George did to him and after knowing the truth to what happened to his abusive bf, he takes the blame??
Well, to protect his mother
@Capal Watcher Exactly!
@Capal Watcher He has a son! In all his pain and misery that he went through did he ever once stop to consider how this is affecting Matthew? Why should he want to go to prison for a crime he knows he didn't commit just to satisfy his sense of guilt and selfish pity? He should grow up and start acting like a real parent.
When will they give John Paul some happiness
I agree
I don´t think the producers care about the viewers and what they want.
He’s guna be super happy when he starts dropping that soap
He's the Male Ophelia of Hollyoaks. Just like Whitney on Eastenders. Poor Sally, she loves her Boy so much and the fact that he accepted Sally being a MTF, is beautiful.
Where's James?? JP & Sally need a super lawyer!
He is not a superlawyer. :) But I guess James will be part of it now when Ste is not in the picture at the moment.
John Paul actually looks better then usual, all rough looking and tousled. Maybe there’s a prison escape and on the run storyline coming?
Ugh really hate jp, and Cohen. So sick of this storyline and jp's pinning for that dead abuser. Sally is too good of a mum for him And that's really saying something
The cops in this are so bad at their job it's no wonder the people of Hollyoaks take justice in their own hands.
George is still ruining things even from the grave :(
Awful officer...with her no investigation everyone going to see her always end up arrested.
Well if Sally goes to woman’s prison J.K. Rowling’s is going to have an aneurism. I hope they use this storyline to explore some of the transphobic and TERF issues going on in the UK.
3:45 YES
The difference being that you job requires you not to ignore facts when they portray you colleague as someone in the wrong!
There's a gym, he could get ripped 😂
Oh wow I haven't watched this show in months and now Sally has become a killer.
Hmm well kind of, she did it to save someone. I wouldn’t call her a killer.
@@joshuaadams1178 Even so, she still murdered George
@@bubblezzxxd15 - She didn't necessarily murder him... she killed him.
@@PhoenieFroe313 what's the difference? I'm not being snarky btw, I'm truly asking
@@bubblezzxxd15 - Murder is more of an unlawful killing with intent/pre-meditation. Whereas she arguably killed him by accident, she intended to stop him from hurting Theresa, so it could be argued it was more of a defensive strike.
So she factually killed him but murder is up for debate.
Poor John Paul. 😔
Cohen is thick! She should have at least looked into it what Sally said. The McQueens on the otherhand have always been a selfish bunch. Not surprising at all that they would let the only boy in family go down for murder that they committed when they should have just stayed out of it. Any man born into the McQueen household is truly cursed. Poor Matthew... Also I don't understand why JP loved George so much. He only knew for a year and all they did was fool around alot. That doesn't seem like love. Plus when did we ever see George ever try to bond with Matthew or any other McQueens? NEVER! That is not love! How could JP not see that? He's turning out to be as shitty a dad as his Dad was.
How's he gonna stop her from seeing her own grandson when he's in prison. He won't get to choose the carer. The writers of this show have clearly given up on common sense
Where even IS Myra-Pocahontas?
Totally forgot about her until now lol
Wait, & the police aren’t monitoring that call? Lol, what a joke
What's going on with the soaps lately the story lines seem to be dragged on to much 🤔
sally :’(
Marnie in that Cruella Deville dress😃😃
That is--indeed--one way of describing her ensemble. Another way, is that since Marnie's business , "Salon de The", is French in inspiration, her black-and-white fashion could be an homage to the French fashion icon, Gabrielle "Coco" Chanel whose beloved colour-combination was black-and-white.
John Paul are you crazy! Why would you want to stay with someone who's so abusive. I've seen it too many times with Friends and they think it's normal. One Friend I had had a Boyfriend who needed to know where she was all of the time, he was very insecure and jealous. His Mother kicked his Father out for being mean to her and he never came around after that, I think he blamed her for it.
This is going on so long back forward back again
Even from Beyond the grave JP is still wrapped round George’s finger or is that just me
Rubbish Storyline
@@KaleemAkbar786 agreed.
He is, sadly.
Or, wrapped round The-Memory of some...other part of George's anatomy.
@@aidanstafford318 I don't believe he only cared about his dick 😂
Im starting to think Cohen did it especially the way she's carrying on
it was sally...that was confirmed already
@@xalexis.editsx are you sure it wasn't you you have previous remember Heather
DS Cowan needs to be fired for this
Nooooo I feel sorry for then both
My heart 💔
I'm really getting sick of the detective! Even with the Drugs story she didn't do her job properly
This is too messy and really bad storytelling. JP wants to punish Sally for what she did in self-defense. He misses George even if he could see how dangerous and manipulative he was. Doesn´t make any sense anywhere.
@yeah up yours too buddy Sally was defending Theresa and herself as George was dangerous and stronger than both of them. In the eyes of the law it may be something different but that is what happened. Ella was defending Charlie and had NOT the INTENT to kill him. I also think that the intent was to hit George in the head so he would stop threatening both of them and was a survival instinct as Sally knew about George and him threatening her in the past that made her afraid and cried. She didn´t think that he was going to die. Theresa was stupid to run to him as she did not realize how dangerous he was and Sally ran after her to protect her.
@yeah up yours too buddy In court in real life, they must prove that Sally had the INTENT to murder him which she did not have. People do wrong things in the heat of the moment which happened here. Sally did not plan to kill George but both Theresa and Sally did the wrong thing to ran after George. They should have called the police to tell them exactly what happened and that George was about to leave the village and the way he had abused JP regardless of he himself was a policeman or not. The problem is that Sally and Theresa lies to the police which make their work more difficult and that is not good for the outcome. If Sally had told the police at once that she hit George in the head in order to protect Theresa, they would understand that it was self-defense or maybe manslaughter but MURDER, NO. Hollyoaks is a soap and they do not always make things realistic.
They are drawing this out so thin... Everyone is gonna need a good therapist. At this point, I wouldn't doubt if the therapist will be JP's next love interest. 😮😩 Seems like Kiss is still twisting everything to his own liking in the afterlife...
Ok. I'll say it. Did kiss deserve to be punished? yes. Did he have to lose his life? no. But I'm I sad that the world is short a sorry waste of a human like kiss? Nope! That demon got exactly what was coming his way. I'm surprised they all didn't bury and hide the body. Could you imagine what Branden would've done to kiss if he did the that to Ste?
Poor John Paul
Hollyoaks should have crossover with EastEnders.
Warren fox vs brendan brady
They could have done that ages ago or years ago
Let him root. Selfish fool.
Ugh even when George is dead hes still hurting join Paul I hate seeing him like this :(
I just remembered I got a date with Stephanie Davis, wish me luck guys.
Piss off is this true man your a lucky guy
@@evanowen15 🤣🤣
🤣🤣 you wish
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SALY NO
Lmao this is so dumb.
This is why I only watch clips instead of the full episode.
Waste of time
Wait did sally really kill him? I’m episodes behind :( x
John Paul has discovered that prison is right for him because he can get a lot abuse in there for a lot of people. John Paul loves it
I wonder if those skype conversations are recorded?
I think they are
Like phone calls are.
Rip her
Sally’s such a busybody 🤨 She only mAkes things worse for John Paul 💔
Owh I bloody love Sally🥺👑👏🏻
Oh go away Callum sick of seeing your stupid profile picture face in these comments
Me too!
I don't know what to say
Saily is good character
I really thought it was Dean that did it
I think Dean killed Kiss
Me pregunto quien va encontrar las camaras de George, fijó así se sabra la verdad y fijó Sally se librara por defensa propia
I think the question is eas the attacked caught on camera . No in soap never CCTV to simple
Esa es una buena pregunta. Pero si planean mantener las cámaras en la línea de la historia, entonces probablemente pasará un tiempo antes de que las presenten. Sospecho que los escritores y productores quieren prolongar la trama por un tiempo; Para que la audiencia pueda reconocer los signos de una relación tóxica: That is a good question. But if they plan to keep cameras in the story-line, then it's probably going to be a while before they introduce them. I suspect that the writers and producers want to prolong the story-line for a while; So the audience can recognize the signs of a toxic relationship.
@@aidanstafford318 Sí, tendrá que pasar tiempo, después de todo está es una serié de drama
But I think they have dragged this story out in wrong direction away from domestic abuse and into false imprisme t and drag that out for few more month. Is George actually dead was confirmed by a none corrupt person.
But I think they have dragged this story out in wrong direction away from domestic abuse and into false imprisme t and drag that out for few more month. Is George actually dead was confirmed by a none corrupt person. Sorry I can't translate for you
Sorry I can't translate well for you
Oh my OA! 😱😱😱😱 John Paul how in the name of The OA could you turn yourself in like that when you knew that your Mother Sally St. Claire was the one who killed your Ex-Fiancé George? 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 And your even blaming her for killing him when he was abusing you? 🤨🤨🤨🤨 Even George’s ghost must’ve gotten John Paul underneath his finger! 😔😔😔😔 I just hope John Paul will get released and Sally St. Claire will actually do what’s right! 😟😟😟😟🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 What do you People think???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Late to the party since I got bored and haven't watched for weeks.
Can we please have a tiny bit of realistic policing in the show just once? At this point its like watching a fantasy/comedy show, so much ridiculous crap.
DS Cowan is the absolute worst character ever wtf
Bloody pathetic the murder scene was a bad edit and he is on the floor remember when Hollyoaks liked to push the boundaries
I feel sorry for john Paul
I respect a criminal that turns himself in.
Edit: Okay so just letting everyone be aware that I'm quoting to criminals, not sally otherwise I would have quoted "I respect Sally for turning herself in". If you're gonna get offended over a harmless comment then I don't care. I'm not here to make fun of anyone's gender, I'm here to have fun. I thought society knew better than this instead all they care about is woke gender and race identities in this miserable world.
@solo xi Hi SJW!
@@KamiTenchi it’s you being transphobic not her being a SJW or something .
Why do you care what someone has under there pants I don’t think you will go to bed with sally ?
Biology and society is different we don’t live in a world which is ruled by biology if we did women would be at home cooking food for a bigot like you
@Maa kali ki Dasi What are you talking about? I don't care about gender plus this is just a quote! I was referencing a criminal, not Sally! No, we live in a world ruled by SJW like you everywhere. Perhaps I should have this more clear but overall I do this everywhere and nobody has a problem 😂
As a matter of fact, I'm going to screenshot this sheit and see what the internet thinks, if its wrong, I'd admit defeat
@@KamiTenchi Can you stop with the SJW? That term is so overused, and it's really used to silence people more than anything.
I support John Pauls decision. If we cant have George we are better off in prison. I want George to still be alive :( but i gave up like John Paul.