I believe the neon lamp is definitely the best when it comes to replicating an open flame. The other two are still pretty neat. Very nice lighting setup! Thank you for a great video.
@ 0:56 The third bulb introduced (on the right) is not "incandescent", but rather, a neon glow bulb. "Flicker flame" neon glow bulbs work by ionizing the neon gas in the bulb via two flame-shaped electrodes, which then appear to glow as the ionized gas forms a conductive plasma. The relatively large surface area of the electrodes, combined with a built-in current-limiting resistor in the bulb and the specific neon gas pressure in the bulb, restricts the conduction to only part of the electrode surface area. The heat of the glowing plasma alters the local density of the gas; these localized density variations then tend to "drift" by convection -- this is what makes the "flame" appear to "flicker". On the other hand, an incandescent bulb uses the theory of incandescence -- not gas plasma discharge -- to produce light. Incandescent bulbs have a thin conductive filament wire with substantial electrical resistance. An electric current through this resistive filament causes it to get VERY hot -- up to thousands of Kelvin -- such that the metal itself behaves as a black-body radiator and emits light.
I am aware but as you probably know, manufacturers and retailers refer to them as 'incandescent'. In these videos I use the terms 'neon' and 'incandescent' interchangeably for them.
JF - thanks for the great post. Question: the only complaint ive always had about the classic neon-flame style bulb is that the color is not corrcect. Its too dark-amber....vs the peopler pale yellow of an actual candle or gas-flame. Ive tried looking, but they all seem to have this dark orange color. Any idea if there is a version that is more correct?
@@jmm1000 The deep orange of those bulbs is the inherent wavelength that neon emits when conducting an electric current. Any other colours of "neon lights" (for example, commercial retail signs) is produced by coating the inside of the glass with an opaque phosphor that absorbs the orange neon light and fluoresces at some other desired colour. If this tactic was used for neon flicker flame bulbs, you wouldn't see the flame-shaped electrodes, or see the flicker effect very well. And I don't know if there are any other gases that naturally produce a more desirable colour during electrical discharge at a voltage compatible with the AC mains, while also having the desired convection currents to "flicker". So long story short, if there are any flicker flame bulbs with "more correct" colour, I'm not aware of them. The physics of this universe is somewhat limiting. 😛 Of course, there's always LED bulbs with their own unique style of simulated flicker...
@@jf3570 excellent reply. The differentiating thing about the gas-filled flame effect, is that it is the correct size & flicker pattern of a single wick. While the LED versions are the right color, they are too much of an artificial "roaring fire" type pattern, with multiple flame-peaks. Its a market segment that has not yet been addressed by LED bulb manufacturers, but im sure an email to one, might result in a correct color LED version with a more realistic appearance.
For some reason, all these bulb manufacturers of fake flame bulbs assume the flame should look like there is a hurricane going on. Flames in fixtures should NEVER flicker like that unless they are outside in a strong wind. It is nice to see a little occasional flickering, which is possible in real life. Has anyone seen such a bulb?
I think I have reviewed every type of flame bulb they make over the various videos on my channel. If there is one I missed, let me know, and I will review it.
I believe the neon lamp is definitely the best when it comes to replicating an open flame.
The other two are still pretty neat. Very nice lighting setup! Thank you for a great video.
You are welcome!
Such a cute house! Glad to have found this video. Super informative.
Thanks!
Thank's for posting. It was very informative.
Thank you!
What's the name of he bulb on the left?
It didnt have a name. It was on eBay. It no longer exists.
@ 0:56 The third bulb introduced (on the right) is not "incandescent", but rather, a neon glow bulb. "Flicker flame" neon glow bulbs work by ionizing the neon gas in the bulb via two flame-shaped electrodes, which then appear to glow as the ionized gas forms a conductive plasma. The relatively large surface area of the electrodes, combined with a built-in current-limiting resistor in the bulb and the specific neon gas pressure in the bulb, restricts the conduction to only part of the electrode surface area. The heat of the glowing plasma alters the local density of the gas; these localized density variations then tend to "drift" by convection -- this is what makes the "flame" appear to "flicker".
On the other hand, an incandescent bulb uses the theory of incandescence -- not gas plasma discharge -- to produce light. Incandescent bulbs have a thin conductive filament wire with substantial electrical resistance. An electric current through this resistive filament causes it to get VERY hot -- up to thousands of Kelvin -- such that the metal itself behaves as a black-body radiator and emits light.
I am aware but as you probably know, manufacturers and retailers refer to them as 'incandescent'. In these videos I use the terms 'neon' and 'incandescent' interchangeably for them.
You will also notice I said "incandescent-- but technically neon" in this video specifically.
JF - thanks for the great post. Question: the only complaint ive always had about the classic neon-flame style bulb is that the color is not corrcect. Its too dark-amber....vs the peopler pale yellow of an actual candle or gas-flame. Ive tried looking, but they all seem to have this dark orange color. Any idea if there is a version that is more correct?
@@jmm1000 The deep orange of those bulbs is the inherent wavelength that neon emits when conducting an electric current. Any other colours of "neon lights" (for example, commercial retail signs) is produced by coating the inside of the glass with an opaque phosphor that absorbs the orange neon light and fluoresces at some other desired colour. If this tactic was used for neon flicker flame bulbs, you wouldn't see the flame-shaped electrodes, or see the flicker effect very well. And I don't know if there are any other gases that naturally produce a more desirable colour during electrical discharge at a voltage compatible with the AC mains, while also having the desired convection currents to "flicker". So long story short, if there are any flicker flame bulbs with "more correct" colour, I'm not aware of them. The physics of this universe is somewhat limiting. 😛 Of course, there's always LED bulbs with their own unique style of simulated flicker...
@@jf3570 excellent reply. The differentiating thing about the gas-filled flame effect, is that it is the correct size & flicker pattern of a single wick. While the LED versions are the right color, they are too much of an artificial "roaring fire" type pattern, with multiple flame-peaks. Its a market segment that has not yet been addressed by LED bulb manufacturers, but im sure an email to one, might result in a correct color LED version with a more realistic appearance.
Thanks for the video💪
The incandescent is still the best looking one, sadly. LED technology is not there yet.
There are some uses where the incandescent wouldnt be bright enough and in those cases the LED is better.
It's not incandescent; it's neon. See my other comment.
For some reason, all these bulb manufacturers of fake flame bulbs assume the flame should look like there is a hurricane going on. Flames in fixtures should NEVER flicker like that unless they are outside in a strong wind. It is nice to see a little occasional flickering, which is possible in real life. Has anyone seen such a bulb?
I think I have reviewed every type of flame bulb they make over the various videos on my channel. If there is one I missed, let me know, and I will review it.
My blooming alexa is going into meltdown
Never heard of the blooming version.
You sound like comedian Patton Oswalt
How much for the Fender Rhodes?
It's not for sale.
Great video to me they still look fake. They should slow the flame rate if at all possible to give it a flicker.
This saved me a wasted buy, thanks.
Glad I could help
dude. i can't watch your videos because you keep sayin alexa... mute that out or somethin. 😂