Before raspberry & arduino we had PLCs which evolved to do everything Radpberry can... in fact, these became so good, they are still the standard today.
I did not expect to see a turret press. For everyone saying "they wouldn't believe what we have now", things really haven't changed that much. They did have a lot of what we have now. They even had things we don't have anymore.
yeah sure but only few could afford a cnc machine in their shop, nowhere near as widespread as today. Also things we don't have anymore...its called obsolescence
I had a great career servicing NC and CNC machines, never did figure out how to repair those hydraulically driven servo-valve machines, they ran on hydro-mechanical wizardry. Wouldn't want to service that Gardner-Denver wire wrap machine either!
Most of the machinery seen in this video are the early versions of what we have now! Cnc routers, cnc machining centers, punch press, knee mill, drill press, shapers, pin router, gantry mill and gantry routers.
I was a field engineer for Storage Technology, backplanes like that were used on mainframe magnetic tape controllers and disk controllers and individual disks and tapes. We had to install engineering changes on a regular basis, many were the midnight and early morning hours I spent in freezing computer rooms doing that by hand. Typical disk or tape controller backplanes were about five feet tall by three feet wide, disk drive ones about three feet square, can't remember what size the tape drive ones were, I think about the same as the controller - it was a long time ago, around 1980.
@@officialluckyturn I've been around this stuff since the early days. Things haven't really changed that much. The biggest change came with the cheap Japanese machines. Until then everything was big, heavy, and expensive.
There's a video on RUclips, about a machine from 1958, that had more functionality than the one that I use every day... Automatic position of the workpiece and automatic tool change... I only have an automatic tool change. As I go through the history, nothing major has changed after APT and SketchPad... It only continued to evolve... Not too major to talk about in the recent history of CNC machines... The only thing worth mentioning is the improvement in CAD/CAM systems and their battles with competition...
A few years ago I salvaged a Attitude Gyro out of a crashed F-105 Thunder Chief in the Piute mtns next to China lake Naval Weapons Test Center. Dissecting it I found it was made by Sperry. The Pilot escaped injury.
I have often wondered, if for some reason we had to use that technology again to restart, how long would it take to get to a "modern" PC or just modern CNC machine. Assuming that resources isn't an issue and the a machine like this was in peak working order.
@zimmerhandcrafted I don't think it would take that long. The reason it has taken us this long to get to our modern standards is because most of our discoveries were accidental or trial and error. Trying a millions things and one of them working. We won't need to do that if things reset. We may lose the physical things, but the knowledge won't need to regained again. One human lifetime is enough to go from nothing to modern technology imo.
Mas que hablar de la maquina el avanze exponencial esta en la computacion.... Por que la mayor parte de la maquina ya la hiceron ellos en aquella epoca y lo hicieron tan bien que muchas cosas no han cambiado mucho realmente.
Unfornunatly North & South America really don't manufacture machine tools anymore. So now we have no choice, but to buy them from Japan, Germany, and Korea. I'm a machinist have been since birth. The machines I currently run are from Korea, and the raw material usually comes from India.
SIP is defunct. American Tool Works was purchased in the late 60s, what remains of the company is now owned by Bourn and Koch. Burkhardt merged with Loeffler to become Burkhardt/Loeffler, which is still making machines Moore is still in business, making jig grinders and associated parts and accessories Burgmaster is defunct. Sibley Machine might still exist in one capacity or another, kind of confusing. DeVlieg was purchased and merged with Bullard; both effectively defunct. Service and parts are provided by Bourn and Koch, but no new machines. A separate company; Universal DeVlieg still produces tooling. Avey is defunct W.B. Knight is defunct Gorton was purchased by Kearney and Trecker and subsequently closed Wiedemann was purchased by Murata Nawide is defunct
@@copperlemon1 Certainly not much left of the the American machine tool industry. Bourn and Koch in Rockford purchased a slew of defunct manufacturers and supplies parts.
Imagine throwing them a Raspberry Pi, and even just a $20 GRBL board. Heads would have exploded. We have it so good nowadays.
Before raspberry & arduino we had PLCs which evolved to do everything Radpberry can... in fact, these became so good, they are still the standard today.
I would trust a plc more than any computer dealing with the potential of harm to humans.
Pi+GRBL is unreliable piece of junk in comparison to any industrial system of any age.
Imagine if you knew all the things that yoostaby, your head would explode.
@@NicoTheAnimal you can trust CODESYS Control for Raspberry
I did not expect to see a turret press.
For everyone saying "they wouldn't believe what we have now", things really haven't changed that much. They did have a lot of what we have now. They even had things we don't have anymore.
yeah sure but only few could afford a cnc machine in their shop, nowhere near as widespread as today. Also things we don't have anymore...its called obsolescence
@@fenrirlokisson8270 larger shops had numbers of machines, just like today . But there are more larger shops now.
I had a great career servicing NC and CNC machines, never did figure out how to repair those hydraulically driven servo-valve machines, they ran on hydro-mechanical wizardry. Wouldn't want to service that Gardner-Denver wire wrap machine either!
I see Management hasnt changed in the machine shop. "Doesn't take a coffee break" 😂
Most of the machinery seen in this video are the early versions of what we have now! Cnc routers, cnc machining centers, punch press, knee mill, drill press, shapers, pin router, gantry mill and gantry routers.
True👍
Mind blowing video. Precision was the name of the game back then.
Those old wire wrapped backplanes are insane
I was a field engineer for Storage Technology, backplanes like that were used on mainframe magnetic tape controllers and disk controllers and individual disks and tapes. We had to install engineering changes on a regular basis, many were the midnight and early morning hours I spent in freezing computer rooms doing that by hand. Typical disk or tape controller backplanes were about five feet tall by three feet wide, disk drive ones about three feet square, can't remember what size the tape drive ones were, I think about the same as the controller - it was a long time ago, around 1980.
What a journey we have come 😊 seeing this and looking at the cnc systems i use today ... Its mindblowing how everything has evolved
Not really. It's only that way in retrospect.
@@KC9UDX maby for you 🤔
@@officialluckyturn I've been around this stuff since the early days. Things haven't really changed that much. The biggest change came with the cheap Japanese machines. Until then everything was big, heavy, and expensive.
When machinists were machinists 👍
There's a video on RUclips, about a machine from 1958, that had more functionality than the one that I use every day...
Automatic position of the workpiece and automatic tool change...
I only have an automatic tool change.
As I go through the history, nothing major has changed after APT and SketchPad... It only continued to evolve... Not too major to talk about in the recent history of CNC machines... The only thing worth mentioning is the improvement in CAD/CAM systems and their battles with competition...
A few years ago I salvaged a Attitude Gyro out of a crashed F-105 Thunder Chief in the Piute mtns next to China lake Naval Weapons Test Center. Dissecting it I found it was made by Sperry. The Pilot escaped injury.
It's amazing they were able to do all of this without spurving bearings or hydrocoptic marzel vanes.
turboencabulator is still in development stage
Or Strawberry Fields.
Oh gosh doesn't this just warm the cockles of my weird, weird heart.
Good history on good products. Just curious what the wage was for those highly skilled assemblers back then ?
more than enough to buy a house, two car garage and the car, stay at home housewife
A dollar was a great salary, a loaf of bread was 10 cents
Some are happy to make machines, some are happy to learn the machine 😊
All development and engineering was made in USA. Japan took the technology and demolished the American machine tool industry, thank you very much.
I have often wondered, if for some reason we had to use that technology again to restart, how long would it take to get to a "modern" PC or just modern CNC machine. Assuming that resources isn't an issue and the a machine like this was in peak working order.
Extremely long as tons if stuff just emerges when you make the thing. Also it’s not just one company that makes these machine’s to make these chips.
@zimmerhandcrafted I don't think it would take that long. The reason it has taken us this long to get to our modern standards is because most of our discoveries were accidental or trial and error. Trying a millions things and one of them working. We won't need to do that if things reset. We may lose the physical things, but the knowledge won't need to regained again. One human lifetime is enough to go from nothing to modern technology imo.
The trainees at the end of the video looked more like old age pensioners !! 😕
And the "rapid traverse" of the boring machine was cute... 😂
Which came first, the Sperry circuit board or the Sperry machine that makes the Sperry circuit board?
Reminds me of that Escher artwork, "Drawing Hands"
I think it was the chicken.
5:07 she kinda looks like Patsy Cline
picturing her walking around the plant singing
"I'm crazy, crazy from solder, vapor ...."
Imagine showing them a state of the art 5 axis mill
Mas que hablar de la maquina el avanze exponencial esta en la computacion.... Por que la mayor parte de la maquina ya la hiceron ellos en aquella epoca y lo hicieron tan bien que muchas cosas no han cambiado mucho realmente.
Unfornunatly North & South America really don't manufacture machine tools anymore.
So now we have no choice, but to buy them from Japan, Germany, and Korea.
I'm a machinist have been since birth.
The machines I currently run are from Korea, and the raw material usually comes from India.
Make America Great Again 💪🏻🇺🇸
I wonder how many (if any) of those companies shown at the end are still with us?
SIP is defunct.
American Tool Works was purchased in the late 60s, what remains of the company is now owned by Bourn and Koch.
Burkhardt merged with Loeffler to become Burkhardt/Loeffler, which is still making machines
Moore is still in business, making jig grinders and associated parts and accessories
Burgmaster is defunct.
Sibley Machine might still exist in one capacity or another, kind of confusing.
DeVlieg was purchased and merged with Bullard; both effectively defunct. Service and parts are provided by Bourn and Koch, but no new machines. A separate company; Universal DeVlieg still produces tooling.
Avey is defunct
W.B. Knight is defunct
Gorton was purchased by Kearney and Trecker and subsequently closed
Wiedemann was purchased by Murata
Nawide is defunct
@@copperlemon1 Certainly not much left of the the American machine tool industry. Bourn and Koch in Rockford purchased a slew of defunct manufacturers and supplies parts.
Impressive that this was a high tech Canadian company.
Some of those machines probably still run now a days.
Great skills and dedication ñ
2:22 .. lmao, you exactly don't want your scales to have the same expansion ratio.. I know, this movie is old
High technology.--Sperry Corporation--Founded 1910--Defunct
No computer just tap! I like it!
Takes me bad to good times when tape machines ruled
It's amazing !!!
this is amazing
We have come so far in just a 10 years 😮
Im sold
❤
Wonderfull
How old is this video😅😅
When they showed the machine’s service record the latest date was 1963.
@@citizen240 Makes sense given the kind of computer tech being used here. SMS/SLT systems were the norm back then.