McKinlay mentions some here that really clicked with me. There's a part where he says that there is a significant amount of Noise musicians that simply turned to Noise as it is the next most extreme thing and they view themselves as "transgressive". And it clicked with me because I was that kid. When I was 16 I started getting into "transgressive" art and eventually ended up on Noise. I started doing my little releases and fucking around with NIMB and a contact mic. The thing is, that rage and depression eventually wore off and I found myself with no relation to Noise. So I stopped doing it. I was stuck in that pov of "Noise has to be the most extreme thing ever" and I forgot to enjoy the actual Noise. A year passed and I started to gain new appreciation for Noise, but this time because I really cared about the sounds. I started to love them. I also started to love concepts behind albums and specific pieces of art, and I realized that I didn't really need to be stuck to this genre, this label of "Noise". So I started experimenting. And doing other music outside of Noise. More conceptual pieces. And eventually I found myself back at Noise but this time for a true appreciation of the actual sound. I like Noise now, probably more than ever, and I'm really glad I managed to get here.
Sounds like a beautiful journey. I also got into noise looking for the most extreme thing but I never stopped appreciating the noise itself, I just love raw music and to me this is the rawest form of expression. I'm glad you found your way back, I believe all music has its merits. I'll listen to anything from pop to noise and I'll always find some sound I appreciate within it even if it's just for a split second.
It’s difficult to measure the impact Sam had on the North American harsh noise scene. But whereas for some artists, the obsession/fetish thing seems forced or at least superficial, you get the impression it goes to Sam’s core.
Watching these chronologically, this is the best episode so far. The way he speaks about his own music, harsh noise and art in general is so nuanced. Speaks to a lifetime of reflecting on these matters. Enlightening.
This man is into some really cool stuff. It's great to hear these artist talk and not just about noise but the beautiful side of life that also influences their art.
So good that he is into that 60s sound art stuff ..wolf vostell,Walter marchetti,Philip corner,ben Patterson etc..peeps should check out the algha-marghen label from Italy with all that awesomeness
I remember walking into The Endless Blockade’s last show in Toronto to Sam sitting at a table, a bunch of pedals on it and him fucking around with a bag full of stones. Some of my friends had experimented with noise but not at this level. Sam was loud as fuck and although there was texture to the noise, it felt like my ears were about to explode, but I (always the one looking for where the envelope was being pushed) was like, “I FUCKING FOUND IT!” loll.
Such a good interview man. Thanks for doing these. Great point Sam mentioned about the muffler industry lol. Also cool you got into noise via Xiu Xiu, I liked the recent black leather Jesus collab
@@sammckinlay7338- man, Gilbert, Dryden and especially Roy are my all time favourite NHL goalies. The 1979 playoff finals made me a lifelong Gilles Gilbert fan.
McKinlay mentions some here that really clicked with me. There's a part where he says that there is a significant amount of Noise musicians that simply turned to Noise as it is the next most extreme thing and they view themselves as "transgressive". And it clicked with me because I was that kid. When I was 16 I started getting into "transgressive" art and eventually ended up on Noise. I started doing my little releases and fucking around with NIMB and a contact mic. The thing is, that rage and depression eventually wore off and I found myself with no relation to Noise. So I stopped doing it. I was stuck in that pov of "Noise has to be the most extreme thing ever" and I forgot to enjoy the actual Noise. A year passed and I started to gain new appreciation for Noise, but this time because I really cared about the sounds. I started to love them. I also started to love concepts behind albums and specific pieces of art, and I realized that I didn't really need to be stuck to this genre, this label of "Noise". So I started experimenting. And doing other music outside of Noise. More conceptual pieces. And eventually I found myself back at Noise but this time for a true appreciation of the actual sound. I like Noise now, probably more than ever, and I'm really glad I managed to get here.
Sounds like a beautiful journey. I also got into noise looking for the most extreme thing but I never stopped appreciating the noise itself, I just love raw music and to me this is the rawest form of expression. I'm glad you found your way back, I believe all music has its merits. I'll listen to anything from pop to noise and I'll always find some sound I appreciate within it even if it's just for a split second.
It’s difficult to measure the impact Sam had on the North American harsh noise scene. But whereas for some artists, the obsession/fetish thing seems forced or at least superficial, you get the impression it goes to Sam’s core.
Watching these chronologically, this is the best episode so far. The way he speaks about his own music, harsh noise and art in general is so nuanced. Speaks to a lifetime of reflecting on these matters. Enlightening.
This man is into some really cool stuff.
It's great to hear these artist talk and not just about noise but the beautiful side of life that also influences their art.
Sam is a dear friend and it's great to see him on here. Great interview! Can't wait to tour with him again next year.
So good that he is into that 60s sound art stuff ..wolf vostell,Walter marchetti,Philip corner,ben Patterson etc..peeps should check out the algha-marghen label from Italy with all that awesomeness
Great stuff. Been listening to Sam's the Rita stuff for a number of years but never heard him interviewed before. 👍👋💯👌
almost 3 hours crazy, but also a lot fun. thanks for it.
I remember walking into The Endless Blockade’s last show in Toronto to Sam sitting at a table, a bunch of pedals on it and him fucking around with a bag full of stones. Some of my friends had experimented with noise but not at this level. Sam was loud as fuck and although there was texture to the noise, it felt like my ears were about to explode, but I (always the one looking for where the envelope was being pushed) was like, “I FUCKING FOUND IT!” loll.
him describing noise changed how I hear it also I like when he talks about exploitation in ballet
this was a really good interview!
I had no idea Sam was a huge part of Skull Skates. That's my shit!!!
great conversation!
VOMIR soon ?
I grew up with Sam on the shores of the dark lake
Anti-Music made by non musicians is always the Best music
Such a good interview man. Thanks for doing these. Great point Sam mentioned about the muffler industry lol.
Also cool you got into noise via Xiu Xiu, I liked the recent black leather Jesus collab
legendary in noise scene, forever. his Berlin gig.. and many releases, fire af.
2:27:34 any idea what album he's pointing out here? Tried really hard to make out the name but having a bit of trouble
Nice interview. I saw The Rita a few years ago with my girlfriend at the time and it was so loud she had to keep going to the bathroom to throw up.
Leviathan and the dead sharks album are some of the best works out there
Amazing
Sam talking about the review guy brought back memories lol! Fuck, I wish I could remember their name because I know who he’s talking about 😂😂😂
Excellent interview. Sam is the best.
How did he manage to record those sounds underwater?
waterproof mics or mic in a bag i bet
5:19 what is he referencing here? I can't quite make out the artist/release.
Merzbow "Noisembryo"
A Bruins fan from Vancouver?
Huge Gilles Gilbert fan.
@@sammckinlay7338- man, Gilbert, Dryden and especially Roy are my all time favourite NHL goalies. The 1979 playoff finals made me a lifelong Gilles Gilbert fan.
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