The Boy Who Put On A Sock That Had A Spider In It
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"the spiders get bigger the higher up you lived" - that finally explans correlation between Spider Man and skyscrapers
It explains why we have so many big spiders at 6000 ft altitude in Colorado.
@@kimberlygabaldon3260 The only large species we have are three tarantulas (new world origin so not very venomous) and they only reside in very south eastern CO. Pueblo is home of the "Tarantula Migration" annually and you can thank them for the little amount of pesty insects you deal with in the summers, if you think bugs are bad please move somewhere else for a year then come back. The largest species of spider lives in Africa right at sea level, and the largest on our side of the world is the largest tarantula known to man and they reside below sea level.
That is funny
That is funny
That is funny
I expected the freezeframe at 7:09, and I got it. Never change, doctor.
Subliminal messaging!
@@h4wk5t4r I saw something flash but I can't get the video to stop long enough to see what it was.
@@diyeana it was a crewmate from the game "Among Us"
@@diyeana use keys to navigate: K=stop, then ",": back one frame, ".": forwards one frame. left arrow : -5s, right arrow: +5s, that how I was able to see it
to my knowledge, cant do that on mobile. im on a phone right now so id have t do it manually
The first time I went to Florida to visit family I was setting up my bed and saw a gigantic spider run across the room. I ran out of the room and yelled about the spider. My great aunt said, "Oh honey, that's just a _house_ spider!" I didn't sleep well in that house.
Recently moved to FL and have found 3 huntsmen spiders about 3 inches wide in my house since. Apparently they’re not dangerous but, fkn scary
@@kevin_heslip I'm guessing that's what I saw, but I was a kid and at that time all I knew was that thing could have owned property. You are a strong man for staying in the State.
@@diyeana Been living in Joshua Tree, CA. for decades. LOTS of them here...hanging out with the tarantulas, scorpions and rattlers. We also have wind scorpions/camel spiders. Basically the same thing as the Huntsman. Those dudes really scare the💩 outta me.
There's house spiders in every country around the world. Don't worry, they're with you wherever you are making sure you're truly never alone 😊 pretty nice of them if you ask me lmao
Just a lil creepy bug roomba getting where it needs to go!
"In general, we know that spiders are synanthropic, meaning the more people there are, the more spiders there are, they happen to live _among us."_
GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GET OUT!
Br0wnR3cluse7818 was not the imposter
Spiders are pretty sus
It is less that they "happen" to live among us and more that the conditions we create make life for them more favorable. Our ability to attract and sustain pests in and around our dwellings is a selective pressure that favors many types of arachnids.
@@carnivorebear6582 No, they are just opportunistic. We create many ideal conditions for them. If anything, we are the anomalies. I would say that we serve at their pleasure, but the vast majority of spiders probably cannot feel gratification.
when I was living in Death Valley I would shake out my shoe and my leg before putting them on. On one morning I shook out my prosthetic leg and a giant hairy scorpion.
This species can grow to 5.5 inches (14 cm) and this was a big one.
Their sting is not usually lethal but they are extremely painful and cause quite a lot of swelling.
The damn scorpion nearly landed on my bare foot, but I pulled it up onto my bed quick.
Oh god
I would honestly faint if that happened to me, kudos to you for being so brave
@@shivanithakar9658 Do you count screaming like a little girl being brave?
@@erictaylor5462 Definetly
@@erictaylor5462
14cm is a big scorpion, that sting would be quite um the experience. Screaming was justified.
Just a point of order from an entomologist: There are technically hundreds of venomous spider species in the U.S. The only two medically relevant ones are the brown recluse and black widow though. Most spiders venom is mild and meant to kill insects and are essentially harmless to us.
So far...
So close...
So long...
So soon...
I was gonna say that he forgot the boxer spider! Those can be a *really* nasty bite!
This video about (spider) bites reminded me of a topic that has fascinated me for a while: rabies. More specifically, I've always wondered about the "Milwaukee protocol" treatment for symptomatic rabies that's been used multiple times with limited (but seemingly real) success. Would you be able to talk about the current state of research on this kind of symptomatic rabies treatment and why it may or may not be recommended?
EDIT: For the replies: yes I know there are pre- and post-exposure vaccine courses. That's why I specified symptomatic rabies. There's always going to be those few isolated cases where someone realized too late that they could've gotten rabies in a forgettable encounter with an animal.
The MP isn't really a protocol per-se, but more of a Hail Mary due to its almost nonexistent success. The girl that survived and is often cited now has pronounced permanent neurological issues.
Your best chance of surviving rabies is to get the pre- and post-exposure vaccine, especially the latter.
@@fredleggett923 I've taken a quick look at the current literature on it (note: not my research expertise, I'm just a curious dude), and a meta-analysis on it (from 2018 I think, it's been a while) gave something like 17% success rate worldwide. It's pretty abysmal for such a high-cost procedure, but for a developed country with the resources, it sounds like a last-resort treatment that's worth pursuing. However, the common consensus is that it's not worth it, even in developed countries.
It's not really the Milwaukee protocol specifically that I'm curious about, but there are similar procedures that were developed more recently that have built on that n=1 success that MP had. I don't know if I'm missing something so I figured an actually educated medical professional like Dr. Bernie might be up to talk about it. If nothing else, it might make for a good video.
Also for the record, I know that the treatment for pre-symptomatic vaccine/immunoglobulin treatment is extremely effective. I would be way more scared of animals if I didn't lol
@@ballboys607 Admittedly, I haven't done any deep dives into the subject, but 17% seems like a lot. I mean, a LOT. I've only read about five or six cases where the procedure was "successful" (meaning, the patient didn't die). There was a case here in Florida a few years ago that made the news where a kid contracted rabies and subsequently died, but the MP wasn't used. If it had a 17% success rate, I'd think that would be the go-to treatment once symptoms started to appear. However, maybe he was too young to survive such a debilitating procedure or something else about his biology made it contraindicated.
I can't think of a more terrifying virus than rabies. I know it's exceedingly rare to contract it here in North America, so there's not much of a push to develop a cure, but when you hear that the virus can survive on surfaces for many hours, it makes a person rather paranoid, especially if you live near a bat colony (like I do). I've often thought of getting the pre-exposure vaccine, as the bats around here can get fairly bold and I've been buzzed a few times, but the last time I checked the series was over $500 and wasn't covered by insurance. Oh, and we apparently also have a roving band of coyotes that've recently made our neighborhood news. That doesn't even touch the usual wildlife rabies reservoir of raccoons, squirrels, feral cats, and the occasional wild dog.
@@fredleggett923 there's a post-exposure vaccine that's useful before symptoms, it's just most people that die waited until symptoms showed before presentation at which point there's very little that can be done :/ (aka MP with that 17% efficacy that many hospitals don't use)
@@johnbailey8103 Oh, I know. From my understanding, even if you've had the pre-exposure series, you must still receive the post-exposure vaccine if you've been bitten or scratched, else the virus could survive the trip to the brain. The two together reaches something like a 99% survival rate with just the series alone.
This is why bat rehabilitators have to periodically receive the post series since they're always getting scratched and occasionally bitten. I love what bats do to decrease the insect population, but I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to become a rehabber given the risks involved.
A coworker got a bite that became necrotic and the doctor said it was a brown recluse bite. We found another spider and he said it was the same kind. It was a hobo spider. I've heard of a lot of people getting necrotic wounds from hobo spiders but their venom doesn't cause it. I wonder if they have dirty mouth parts or if their bites tear the skin in such a way that makes infections likely.
Man that’s just fucking gross
I can’t sleep now because of that
They probably do have dirty mouths, or people scratch at the wound before realizing what it was.
Could just be they had a lot of bacteria on the skin and that got into the bite wound
Combine a puncture wound, such as a bite or sting, which can often create deeper openings in the skin compared to lacerations with bacteria, usually the staph and strep bacteria that naturally live on the skin of most people, and you've got a decent chance of a necrotic wound developing if not properly cleaned and treated. There are published case reports of necrotic wounds arising from a simple bee sting which, while extremely rare, hopefully illustrates the problem of people prematurely jumping to "recluse bite" misdiagnoses.
Just wondering if global warming will cause the recluse spiders to migrate northward. It seems that fire ants are spreading. I remember seeing "lightning bugs" in North Carolina in the 1960s, but not in Michigan. Now they're ubiquitous in lower Michigan.
Yeah, I know that this is somewhat off-topic, but it may be relevant down the pike.
I have received a few spider bites and one ran across my face while I was lying down. And my house wasn't a laundry dump of dirty clothes!
At any rate, this video is informative and well-presented, per usual! Be well, Dr. Bernard! Thanks! 👍
There are cases of insects/plants hitching a ride on human transportation and living in new areas (see: tumbleweeds) so it wouldn't be all that surprising to see global warming giving brown recluses a new home. A lot of people tend to moralize the effects of climate change in their fights against it, but completely ignore the huge damage to economy/health. I bet a lot of people would be more onboard with green energy if they thought about the spiders.
@@ballboys607 Well stated! 👏
We have Brown recluse spiders here on Vancouver Island. I was bit 4 months ago and my Fauther in law 3 months ago. One of my friends as well. We all got Nacrosis. (Ulcers) and my fauther in laws hand swelled up big.
I was a child in the late 70's, and there were an abundance of fireflies in northwest Pennsylvania. So they probably aren't new to Michigan. Perhaps they're _retuning,_ due to a change in pesticide use on crops. My guess.
I see you jumped on the Ukraine 🇺🇦 bandwagon, just as easily as you did the doomsday warming scenario. Just know that the scaremongering we’re fed about the climate being an “existential threat” isn’t based in empirical science whatsoever. It’s strictly for political and financial gain. Don’t be a sheep. 🐑
Can anyone tell me why someone would not check their sock that they just put on for a rock instead of just wearing it all day? Like that's the most annoying part for me.
Same wtf was he really that lazy to check and remove the "rock" that was bothering him?
Right? Although I don’t doubt people like that existing. I get lazy too like how when I go to the beach and sand would get in my shoe and just let it there for a while instead of taking it off.
They're teenager's! Thier frontal lobes aren't mature, they can't think nor rationalize like an adult.... That is why adults are charged with keeping them safe.
@@mellie4174
Pretty sure I managed to put socks on without wearing rocks inside of them -- even as an undeveloped teenager.
I live in rural area with a ton of brownies, so every time I put clothes or shoes on and feel something in them, my mind always goes to “Aw fuck it’s a brown recluse”.
This is despite the fact that I shake my clothes and shoes and have never found a brownie in either of them. Usually it’s just a rock, lint, or a wood splinter from my job.
But now that I’ve said that, I guarantee that I’m gonna find one in my pillow case or some shit 😅
I know this is contrary to the point of the video, but it made me remember when I went to a doctor for a suspected spider bite that was getting a bit gross looking. He said it was merely a foot fungus thing and sent me home with a topical steroid cream. 3 days later I was back with a now huge pus-filled lesion on my foot. A different doctor cut it out, and upon having a dig around in the wound (big ouch) I hear: "ah yes, I think I can even see the original fang marks from the spider here!". I live in Australia.
Wow, I thought they would have treated it like a spider bite originally living there
Even when my room is clean as a hospital, I still find spiders that have gotten in. Luckily, I've never been bitten though.
Spiders eat insects, not dirt, and insects can get in through cracks in the walls, etc. sometimes insects like to come into the house because the climate, etc, not because you’re dirty. And spiders follow the insects in
@@spammusubi8596 smh just be letting themselves in like they pay bills
Not yet
Hospitals are incredibly dirty 😅
I appreciate these videos as someone who has a more than passing interest in medicine. I trust and respect you, and you illustrate perfectly why people go to school for so long to properly practice it.
Forreal, at 4:57 onwards it sounds like he's casting a damn spell 😂
@@Dolomedan lol
@@Dolomedan LMAO I remember most of these enzymes and proteins but I forgot what they do specifically.
I found myself doing laundry while watching this video. Wonder what might have triggered it
Im an Australian invertabrate breeder that specialises in spiders and there arent any Loxosceles sp but we do have Latrodectus hasselti among a few highly toxic mygalamorphs such as funnelwebs and mouse spiders. there are always going to be discrepiencies on location data and mature females of any spider produce hundreds of young and are more often than not gravid to begin with, there are going to be areas where Brown recluses are common completely away from their supposed range. What I have found with huntsmen is basically anywhere over aus where the conditions are the same for a certain species, there will be more. For an example, theres a species of small huntsman spider, Beregama cordata which are common throughout the far north rainforests but the same conditions (albeit localised) of rainforest on the central east coast which these spiders thrive. It always better to look at the conditions like max and min temperature and humidity, altitude and biome.
This might explain some of the invasive species spiders living in places computer models thought would be improbable (Chilean recluses in Finland and Mediterrean recluses in Michigan)
On the government website where I live, a state in the USA, it lists brown recluse as a spider here and we're far north of Interstate 80. With massive travel between states, as well as between countries and continents, it seems silly to me to say spiders are only in a specific area. I'm not an expert or super knowledgeable on this topic.
Yes! Also i think that people often forget that goods and végétal materials are transported all over the place. All it takes is for one pregnant female to arrive in Michigan in summer and her and her babies will live a nice life in someone's temperature controlled home.
You know, with all the invasive species hitching rides in shipping containers, it's possible for non-native recluse spiders to appear anywhere on the North American continent.
Reminds me of a stupid Peppa Pig episode saying spiders were friendly. LOL
@@luisalbertonajeraperez5230 Recluse spiders aren't really aggressive. Just get in the habit of vigorously shaking out your clothes and shoes to check for bugs and you'll be fine. Scorpions and wasps are a lot more common.
@@luisalbertonajeraperez5230 I'd say not friendly, but not hostile either. They don't "want" to waste their venom on something they can't eat, except as a last resort to try and stay alive. Their prey, on the other hand, may well be out for your blood...
There has been atleast 1 case of a brazilian wandering spider hitching a ride to America in bananas and biting a worker.
Fact
Thanks again for referencing Vetter's work and showing the range map. If you listen to the local tall tales, brown recluses are everywhere waiting to bite humans at every chance. So much overblown hysteria!
The other thing is there's invasive species at a usually very localized level at this point like mediterrenean recluses or Chilean recluses. You'd not put a little spot at Ann Arbor where a known mediterrenean recluse population is yet on a map of US recluse species as (a it's not native and (b it's not really visible. The smallest notable range I've ever seen on a map for introduced or invasive is the edible dormouse around Tring, England which has an 18 square mile area.
Spiders follow food, as all good predators do. If you have spider food living in your house then your going to have spiders. If you don’t provide free food and shelter for the food, then they won’t live with you and spiders will stay out.
As another note: the notorious “hobo” spider that crawls across you floor/wall/ceiling, is probably actually a male giant house spider on the hunt for the ladies. He has absolutely no interest in dining on human today and is definitely more scared of you than you are of him.
I dunno. I got chased out of my bathroom by one in the middle of the night. It didn't stop till I hit it with a shoe.
if they are so scared of us why the fuck do they always seem to chase me?
I had a 1 1/2" kukulcania hibernalis (southern house spider) living in the upper corner of my front window for a year. She had a good size web and caught a lot of flies. Freaked people out how I just let her live there. She got evicted after he had babies, lol. Termites and roaches are the only thing on the automatic death list for me.
@@no.7893 They don't. Spiders, scorpions, solifugae and snakes do not chase people. Bees and wasps can.
@@datsuntoyy They do seem to run the same way I do most of the time though. perhaps not chasing to them but it is to me.
I don't mind the smaller spiders that we get around the house, especially the yellow striped jumping spiders which I think are awesome little things. It's the big fuck off spiders that give me the creeps that I can't stand. The species that you mentioned in your other comment may be small and harmless and even beneficial to it's enviroment but if I saw that thing in my house I'd destroy it or die trying.
I understand that most spiders are harmless and very chilled but arachnophobia gets the better of me sadly.
My ultimate fear. Once as a child I put on a shoe that had a centipede in it. It came out of my shoe when I got to class of all places. This is why I hit my shoe against a pole over and over again before putting it on. But what if I just knock the insect unconscious... and then it wakes up in the middle of me driving?! Oh no...
Haha I had the same experience as a child!
Hey Emu, thank you for the effort and making 2 videos, the extra explanatory videos are truly awesome.
How dare you hit me with the Amogus.
Thank you for making these videos and giving such an deep analysis and explanation of what is occurring. You are succinct, concise, clear, direct, and absolutely wonderful to listen to. I would hope that all upcoming doctors in the world took a page out of your book. Please continue to share your wisdom and knowledge with everyone.
Question! When talking to the arachnologists, instead of the medical practitioners, do they notice the spider habitats moving northward due to climate change? It does seem like something likely to occur at some point, but I don't know if it has actually been observed yet by those seeking out these types of spiders.
I know this has been observed for many other species all round the globe but I don't know about this specific one.
really love the in depth videos. certainly puts the main video in perspective :)
Also for the European viewers, the European cousin of this spider, Loxoscelles Rufescens (also a small brown spider with a violin pattern on the cephallothorax) has a much weaker bite, it shouldn't develop into anything unless you live in the South of the Mediteranean bassin in a warm country, temperature tends to make the venom more potent.
I got a hobo spider in San Jose CA, bite caused necrosis. Saw the spider, mild sting. Long recovery.
😳 that's severe, glad you made it through
I know that the brown recluse is a skilled tagalong. Don't know who it rode with, but it's been confirmed in 10 counties of Michigan since up to 20 years ago. One tore my friend up when it got into her underwear drawer. Efforts to keep it from getting rooted have been pretty effective, fortunately. Especially in Wayne county, we get a lot of visitors from the southern states where brown recluses live. Most of our population has origin in those states. I'm thinking that's how they made it there.
There's a map suggesting that Michigan's recluses are all Mediterrenean recluses, which look identical. The Mediterrenean recluse has a wider temperature tolerance range both in cold and heat. Turin in Italy has an average temperature identical to the counties in Southern Michigan year round and has the mediterrenean recluse.
And it's probably even more skillful of a tagalong and stowaway than the brown recluse is given that the Mediterrenean recluse is also invasive in China.
@@Eibarwoman Most of them could be, but Wayne county definitely got some brown recluses. We get more people from the southern states than we do from the Mediterranean, and our experts confirmed the presence. It's really troublesome with them both being there because of the uncertainty. An encounter with a brown recluse there is extremely unlikely, but it's hard to determine if the biter was a young brown recluse or an adult Mediterranean recluse. What's terrifying is the symptoms being very much like that of a brown recluse bite. At this point, they might as well be the same 😅 Talk about getting the short straw.
@@JimmyCrackorn The mediterrenean recluse's range extends a lot further east than you'd think. It goes as far west as Portugal and Morocco, but as far east as Afghanistan and right in the middle of there is some of the larger communities like Lebanese, Syrians, Chaldeans (Iraq), Palestinians, etc. Not to mention FIAT Chrysler and any of an assortment of business trips to Italy.
The end result is the same, a spider you don't want to encounter.
@@Eibarwoman That's easy to believe. There's loads and loads of movement through that region. It makes sense that it could tagalong so well. Because of it's smaller size, I consider it the more dangerous of the two. I'm happy that I moved out of Michigan 😅 I certainly don't want to encounter one of those.
I live in Arkansas and the Brown Recluse is extremely common in our area. I have seen a few of the bites, but nothing as severe as what's displayed today, though I have heard anecdotal stories of people's family members passing from Brown Recluse bites. Be mindful of your environment, keep your home and work areas clean, and check your shoes/other clothing for pests, especially during warmer months. Be safe put there guys.
Im in Arkansas and I have a Very messy room and I hate Spiders so much id yell: Mom get me a lighter and colone with so much Alcohol
Bro I am petrified of spiders, and now this is just gonna make me straight up paranoid lol
What has to go wrong in your life for you to have a rock in your shoe and instead of thinking, “I should get this rock out”, you just changed the way you walk entirely.
please keep doing videos on this channel. I thoroughly enjoy how in depth you go. KNOWLEDGE
This video causes way less fear of my own bed/socks than the chubbyemo one! Plus, I love the in-depth breakdown of the underlying biochemistry of it all.
Personal/performance details contribute positively in all episodes across your three channels
Good to see you looking trim, healthy, Dr Bernard
"brown recluse bites are overdiagnosed" that's just what Big Spider(tm) wants you to think
Another tour de force of the narrator's art. Bravo!! This is Dr. B. doing what he does best: making medical terminology accessible to lay persons not in the medical field.
Grasshoppers fly. That's how they got to the 40th floor.
Ok i totally hear what you are saying about the location of these spiders. But i think you forget that goods and végétal materials are transported daily for the southwest to the north. All it takes is one pregnant female to find their way into the goods and that girl and her babies will live a very nice life un your temperature controlled house. The state of Michigan warned people i. The early 2000 about them. They aren't endemic. in fact they're rare. But they are there, from time to time.
This case just reminded me of the time when I found a massive wolf spider in my tent while we were out in the field during basic at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri. I never ran so fast or screamed so loud while getting out of that tent. I couldn’t sleep at all and that was on the 1st of the 4 days we were out there
There are definitely brown recluse spiders here in Jacksonville FL and are fairly common.
Thank you for a great work as always
Spiders have always spooked me terribly, but I should probably be grateful that I live in Scotland and we don't have any poisonous spiders here, at least I don't think we do?
Very well done video! Keep up the great content
You legitimately motivated me to get on the pathway towards medicine. I started watching a couple years ago when you just started diving into fascinating toxicology courses. Now I’m in college, working towards med school, and absolutely fascinated by organic chemistry.
Of course this goes out to the whole comment section as well, but would the field of anesthesiology be a heavy organic chemistry field, or should I more focus on pharmacology?
I can say for a certainty that brown recluse, while rare in Chicago and neighboring communities, are in fact present in the area. A family member who has lived in that area for 30 years has only ever found 1 brown recluse in their basement, so it is very rare. The more commonly found spider is the yellow sac, which can be often mistaken for the brown recluse. I have the photo my relative took of the brown recluse and can tell the difference. He threw a large book at it and sent it to its next life.
Grasshoppers have wings. They can fly. That's how they got up there.
I said I wanted to live in a penthouse as my dream home but now I’ll stick to a house ON GROUND
Here in Chicago i have seen some brown recluses. It's not super common but it is above I-80. That is an invisible line that can be crossed
Spiders are also larger by the lake. Plenty of potential food sources use the Great Lakes as a breeding ground like mayflies and midges. The more food the bigger the spiders. We had some monster wolf spiders when I worked at Cedar Point because of the smorgasbord of available bugs.
Chicago here - your mystery spider is very likey Achaearanea tepidariorum, also known as the common house spider. They're extremely common here, and get H U G E! But, as you say, are completely harmless.
Very informative! Thank you!
A high school classmate of mine died from a spider bite a few years ago. I can't remember if it was a brown recluse or black widow, but his father told me that by the time the family realized the bite was serious enough to require urgent medical care, it was too late.
Even after being hospitalized he just wasn't able to recover. It was devastating for everyone who knew him, partly because it caused such a rapid decline to his health in so little time.
And with spiders evolving and spreading unchecked such cases won't be rare at all in the near future
Those spiders the size of your palm live here in Washington too. They're called the giant house spider. They look like hobo spiders, except with one difference: they're way bigger
You mentioned the testing that can determine the systemic effects. What sort of testing is able to be done to determine if a necrotic cutaneous wound is, in fact, a result of a Loxosceles bite?
Would there be any difference in symptoms or a higher risk if the patient already had an underlying blood disorder such as Thalassemia or other types of anemia?
I've been bit my brown recluse several times before... They're not fun... first time started out as a rash then spreads and to a large inflamed area, then a dime sized area of necrosis within a couple hours... however, every time I've been bitten since the reaction is slightly less...
My treatment for it has been soaking a rag in hydrogen peroxide and leaving it on the spot for a couple of hours... at this point, I'm pretty much immune to the little bastards.
I'm in Missouri BTW. those violin backed little bastard infest everything here... lol
that's not a good treatment lol 💀
@@peapopea it worked... lol if you don't like it, it's not my problem...
@@libertyrevolutionary1776 you should see the doctor the next time you get bit though, it's not good to self-medicate.
@@peapopea yah, I do whatever I want.
I've made it just fine... I'm not going to depend on a system that likely won't exist in a couple of years, nor do I trust this dumpster fire of a medical care system to do anything right... particularly after the last 2 years...
That doesn't sound like a brown recluse bite at all. Brown recluse bites don't progress to necrosis until days after the bite. It's much more likely that you are contracting some kind of bacterial infection from a non-venomous spider bite. I've been reading up on a lot of reports of hobo spider bites that cause necrosis because of an infection, not from any sort of venom. Also unfortunately, violin shaped markings on a spider's back are still not a reliable way to identify a brown recluse. While all brown recluses have that marking, plenty of other spiders can happen to have markings that look incredibly similar. It's still possible that it was a brown recluse, I just thought maybe you'd be interested in an alternative cause!
The first and only time I came in contact with a brown recluse was on a mission trip in one of the southern states. We were working under a trailer and when I turned to reach for a tool I saw a creepy crawly prowling around. Makes me glad I live up in Pennsylvania
I grew up in the pacific northwest where there are hobo spiders. They were thought to be venomous and dangerous back then, so we were all always worried about them! Looked it up after you talked about black widows and brown recluse being the only recognized venomous spiders in the US and sure enough the CDC stopped recognizing them as venomous in 2017.
Like all spiders, they are still venomous, however, it's not potent enough to actually cause any effects
Yet.
Black widow found here in MD. Just feet away from where my geo metro stayed parked living it's previous life of 23 years in Southern California. Two years in storage before being towed to MD (twilight zone music)
Hello doctor, I am from Colombia but I watch your videos on your Spanish channel, I am not very aware of medical procedures and medicine in general but I love watching your videos and your way of explaining, you are a CRACK Doc, blessings and greetings 🫶🏻
Just fyi, i grew up in mid Michigan, a friend of ours in our church was bit by a brown recluse. He almost lost his arm. Also my father worked in heating and cooling. So he was in crawl spaces a lot. He has seen brown recluses and the state of Michigan warns people working in those spaces about their presence. They're rare. I wouldn't call them endemic, but they're there and you can get bit if you cross one.
And they constantly evolve and spread unchecked
I grew up in middle-northern Georgia, and it was only made apparent that the brown recluse had migrated or had been imported into my home state after one of my camp counselors got bitten and recovered the spider after her wrist started experiencing that red, white, and blue tissue coloring. We found nests of them in different parts of the woods and burned them before they could hatch. They aren’t native to the area. Sadly, that was 20 years ago, and they’ve spread all over the state. She taught us all the importance of recovering the snake or spider that bit you if it was safe to do so, but that was before everyone had phones to take pics of the snake instead of taking it to the hospital with us.
there are brown recluse and black widows spiders in Ontario where i live.
When I was at school last year I was getting dressed one morning and put a hoodie on and went to class. Later that morning I felt like a little needle pain on my neck but I didn’t think anything of it. Fast forward 8 hours I was in the ER with a brown recluse bite.
I got what was probably a rather minor black widow bite on my leg, earlier this year. I did not notice it until well after the fact, and have been dealing with some highly localized issues for 5 months since then, mostly bruising in a quarter sized area around the bite, it had a scab that turned into a pit the size of a .22cal round ball (think airsoft pellet sized), which has since mostly healed. There is still some local bruising on the yellow end of the color scale, and i can feel a sort of indentation under my skin in my muscle, as if that small area got digested and absorbed, but it stayed in the cutaneous layer, and i'm a bigger guy, so fortunately there is no muscular damage! It didn't get infected either, it's just taking forever to heal because i have also been dealing with some pedal edema in both legs due to my health, which i've been doing cardio and stretching to alleviate. I'm actually looking to follow some of your weight loss philosophies and i'm looking for a nutritionist in the SF bay if you have any recommendations. RUclips probably isn't the best place for you too see this and reply, but such is life
I live in Missouri and I have never lived in a house or apartment without brown recluses. I have also never been bit or had one on me. They are called recluses for a reason, they tend to hide and only come out late at night. If you are generally clean and have your home/apartment treated for bugs on a regular basis they most likely won’t be an issue for you.
I live in eastern North Carolina and know at least 4 people who have been diagnosed with brown recluse spider bites. Is that possible? Are they traveling?
*Hey! Thanks for giving us a new channel!*
Fun fact some rural areas of Kentucky have both black widows and brown recluse
I live in NY and I have been bit by Brown Recluses multiple times. I dont know if somehow there is a freak area where they are common here or what. There are several cases I know of that have been confirmed to be Brown Recluses bites due to the spiders being brought in when the person reported the bites. 2 of the 5 times I was bit I did have the spiders with me. I have a weakened immune system so I did react badly to 2 of the bites and ended up with having to go to wound care. The 1 bite I had to have surgery to remove the affected area as result of secondary issues due to the bite. I do know there was a person that loved to keep all sorts of spiders and would breed them. When they got an overpopulation of any type they would just let them go outside so maybe that has something to do with it. All the Brown Recluse bites in this area are within a certain range of the different places that person lived. Once they were out of the area for a couple years the reports of bites died down. In my case the infectious disease department ruled out other causes especially with the fact I had the spiders that bit me with me when I got it checked out.
"If you live north of I-80" I live both north AND south of I-80 😭 **cries in Des Moines**
Every mom should save this video to show their kids! Lol
if I saw a spider as big as you did in that Chicago apartment I would have moved out
yeh my son used to pile up dirty laundry on his bedroom floor.
then i bought him a $5 laundry bin.
mfw parents give lectures but offer no tangible solutions.
The spiders in your apartment were probably just very well fed orb weavers. They aren't gonna hurt you, they just want your flies and mosquitoes.
I have such a fear of spiders I can't even force myself to watch this vid. I'd love to know the info but can't do it. Love your vids anyway & always, thanks ❤
Hey Bernie, could you do a video about mental health. I've struggled a lot to put it mildly and find myself trapped physically and mentally and would love to hear your thoughts or opinions on stuff like BPD and similar things.
i own three spiders but i live right along I32 on the bluff of the mississippi and because i have very severe mental illness i too live in a room covered in mixed clothes and i even somewhat frequently find these spiders in my house and gently put them outside and basically despite dearly loving spiders like a psycho i am absolutely petrified of my bedroom right now, thank you!
Yknow, I wonder if those big spiders you mentioned were related to river spiders. We had lots of those when I lived above a river, and they had fat bodies and long legs.
The title reads like that of a children's bedtime story
We have both recluses and black widows in Arizona with some odd (read: SCARY) visual varieties for each that help them blend into the terrain (desert/Arizona recluses and brown & Western widows). There's also some aggressive jumping wolf spiders - they aren't technically venomous, but it certainly doesn't feel good and they love infiltrating Tucson garages. There's definitely useful house spiderbros and orb weavers about that are catching blame for infected tick and mosquito bites, but for bites that fester, however unlikely, I am going to cast some aspersions of guilt towards those shifty and venomously bitey hooligans, too.
I was in Quincy, CA working for a ranger station about 7 years ago. On one particular day, the crew I was with was working to clear mountain fire roads of excessive brush and undergrowth to render them passable for fire trucks in the upcoming fire season.
At one point, near mid day, something had crawled up my leg and bit the left side of my right calf, just above my sock line. I smacked my pants and a long legged beady eyed spider 🕷 fell out. I stomped it and kept working. A few minutes later the spot it bit began to itch. Then itch really bad. At lunch I pulled my pant leg up to have a look and the spot was very red and starting to swell. A little while later I checked on it again and it's diameter had doubled and now it was painful to touch.
When I got back to town that evening the bite was bigger round than a quarter and the center was starting to puss. The next day there was crater in my leg that seemed to be getting bigger and deeper. I didn't really have any avenue of medical attention available to me at that moment so I did what any good hippy would do and put a couple drops of tea tree oil on it and a couple drops of cinnamon leaf oil as well. The progress of the necrosis stopped. The redness and swelling went down, and over the course of a couple weeks it healed up. But now, I have a craterous scar. A dimple. You can clearly tell by feeling it that there was once a hole there. I don't know if it was a brown recluse bite, but whatever it was, was starting to necrotize my flesh.
the brown recluse is found in southern colorado although rarely
I’ve never taken for granted the fact I live in New Zealand where the worst spider you could ever find is a white tail the size of a jelly bean.
My dad got bit by a violin spider I believe it was. It wasn't noticed in time and the doctor told him he'd lose his finger. A native American coworker of his gave him a cream that he said was a remedy from his tribe. My dad used it and while they did have to remove one of the small muscles on the side of his finger, he still HAS that finger. The muscle they removed was also a minor stabilizer muscle so losing it did not significantly effect the movement of that finger. I guess the guy quit like, the next day or something so my dad didn't even get to thank him properly.
It’s important to remember that L. Reclusa is a frequent traveler well outside of its assumed range. The spider is very docile, timid, and, of course, reclusive. They love plastic tubs and cardboard moving boxes that are often set aside in quiet, undisturbed places. A friend who flips storage units finds a specimen at least once a month. Goodness knows how far they travel, even if they never establish themselves.
Big Emus video about your experience shooting with Brown Recluses?
The Wendler quote just made me lose my shit, sometimes I forget Bernard used to be a powerlifter
In the south we are taught early on to shake out every and any shoe before putting it on!!!! Lol
But I would like clarification please …. I was taught in trauma nursing specific for Louisiana (in 2003) that all spiders are venomous however in the US only 2 indigenous spiders (widow & recluse)are able to inject venom into the subcutaneous layers to warrant emergency treatment. Is this still true? out of date? Just wondering b/c I no longer work as a RN.
AND…..Thanks and I JUST LOVe your videos ……the nitty gritty detail and the way you explain the scientific principles down to the chemistry and physics . Great JOB. You are an amazing teacher, a talent not all geniuses like you are blessed to have. (Just because a Dr or RN are super smart, this does not necessarily make them a great mentor or teacher!!!! 🥳
All spiders are venomous, but only two families of spiders in the United States have enough potent venom to hurt you. These are: the true widow spiders, and the recluse family. Most spiders can't even break skin, but those who can don't really have potent venom. Even if you get bit by one of the two I mentioned, you'll be fine. People will get bit by a widow and go on with their day and be completely fine. Hospitalizations can happen but no one has actually died from a confirmed widow in the US. The danger with recluses' isn't even really their venom, but the infections that can occur with carelessness or just not even noticing the bite. Of course if you get bitten by one of these you should go to the hospital just to be safe.
3:52 Chilean Recluse Spiders! i see them a lot here. A curious thing is who they can adapt their color depending of where they live; if is a dark place, they becomes more dark; if is a clear or luminous place, their color turn brown. Are hunting nocturnal spiders, after all.
An interesting topic! This prompted me to search up what venomous animals may be in my area, luckily most of them just look scary but are unlikely to be fatal 😅
People move across the country all the time, and they often bring unwanted passengers along with them. It is NOT unreasonable to think that a person from the south brought a brown recluse or two north, and that the spider found a hospitable home there. Sometimes, people bring dangerous animals with them as cool pets. I lived in Green Bay, WI and my friend had a collection of black widows! Don't sit there doubting the possibility. I'm SURE there are circumstances where some dangerous spiders are in the north, due to humans.
I love unpopular takes. Thank you for posting this. I believe, like you, that the take on spiders is fear based, this causes errorneous reporting.
Your video clip at 4:09 got me all **shudders*** But wait! Spider venom has in it hyaluronidase? I’m surprised Aesthetics hasn’t turned it in to some kind of filler. We’ll stick a neuromodulator in your scalp, but I often wonder what would happen if I just emptied the syringe down my throat. 🤔
God I hate spiders.
I live in the suburbs above Chicago and was bitten by a brown recluse. Luckily it didn’t get into my bloodstream so I was ok but it took months to heal and I will have a scar on my hand for the rest of my life.
note: if you are scared of spiders please remember that spiders are more scared of you then you are scare of them
Looking great Doctor
can you do a video in depth on wasp or hornet venom
These vids are way better than the ones made with the silly voice.
I got bitten by a spider once on the ankle bone, it produced a hard bump that stayed there for years.
Me: frantically punching all the socks in my sock drawer while my cats watch on with indifference.
Speaking of insects getting up high....when I first started taking flying lessions I was shocked when a Grasshoppper went SPLAT on my windshield at about 1500 feet.