I'm still not convinced that you're not a cyborg from the future. It's amazing how skilled you've become at making these videos. Having made several (comparatively horrible) training videos in my life, the details:pacing ratio you manage to regularly pull off is an absolute marvel to me.
+1 cyborg, duh, its obvious, and yeah, the marriage-type-ring is not fooling us (oh oh, maybe I will be Terminated now) because duh, you would have obviously studied The Historic Records and seen that (since you're an Infiltrator Model, we decided) that "duh" (a valid cybernetic conclusion) "...I should have a wedding/marriage/bonding/partner ring because this will lower THEIR defenses in expectation of my humanity" etc., blah blah(tm), etc.(tm). Yes, I'm a little tipsy. God Bless You, Everyone.
I'd imagine doing these types of videos for years would lead to it being a sort of subconscious act, like playing an instrument after years of practice and experimentation.
@Screw Kalergi So you're saying Ziv's actually human, sold his soul to cyborg devils and those devils craft the scripts he uses in order to dupe us? I could see that. Ziv is the Robert Johnson of RUclips gear videos. Fair enough.
Yes I totally agree and they stand the test of time. Hardware tends to do that. Saved me a ton of money by demonstrating features that I may or may not need. Thanks!
I just ordered a new one yesterday (Nov 2022). I was between the Deluge and OP-1 Field, and I decided to go with the Deluge. I still plan on getting a Field someday, but after about a week of trying to figure out what I wanted, the Deluge ultimately won me over. I feel that the Deluge is ultimately the better machine, and it's hundreds of dollars cheaper. The website said the cost is going to be going up over the next few months, but it's still going to be cheaper than the Field. The new ones also have an OLED screen, so the new ones are even better than the older models.
I was in the same boat just over a year ago and I'm so glad I went with the Deluge. It's just got such a great set of features that make it feel endless every time you use it. I feel like everything you get in this box is well worth the money, and you'd be hard pressed to find anything else that offers as much as it does. Just got mine back with the new OLED fitted too, and can confirm that it's awesome! Also (shameless self plug), feel free to check out my channel. I have a whole video manual on there that can help you learn it :)
@The Doctor is probably the kind of person that goes to a concert tells the guy sitting next to him with a wink “meh it’s calling reading the notes and playing them”
Ordered mine last week. It's insane how with just one update they basically turned it into the most feature rich hardware looper on the marker. Words cannot express how excited I am!
@@usanomad To both of you, check out the sample packs available for this. I have found the presets somewhat tinny and digital sounding. With sample packs you can get a preset sound that can be tweaked to preference. The Juno 106 is amazing for me as I love making synth/retrowave sounding stuff. Good luck!
@@Tylerfrompdx The Deluge remains the most used device of all the ones I have (except the computer ;-). I have recently started using the Torso T-1 a lot too, but for sequencing and as one voice in a set-up, it is still the best, and a brilliant all-in-one as well.
I just discovered this. - I had a Push for about 18 months - didn't use it much because I already work on a computer all day and switching to it just seemed like work. - but... are the limitations with this worth the convenience of not having to deal with a computer?
I'm watching this video yet again because the deluge is so freaking feature rich. I was looking at expression knobs for some pedals I play thru, not knowing the deluge had one basically built in AND that I could automate stuff with CV clips (idk y I didn't know that). Endlessly cool!
Yes, this little box just keeps getting better, and better, and better..... Such great support. Even though the deluge has a few little issues and some obvious limitations, I'm still really glad I bought one from this great company.
I agree, but I wish he spoke a little slower. New content takes my brain a bit to absorb. I am new to some of these concepts on any daw or hardware, so learning the concepts along with execution is difficult in real time. I think a beginner course would be 👍.
My favorite request of any RUclipsr Synth person:..."Synthstrom, can you please add autotune to the next update of Deluge?". HA! Fantastic video as always.
I never would've guessed a full audio workstation could work with a primitive digit display, but Synthstrom really has put a ton of work into making the layout of the Deluge sensible and approachable... It's truly astounding
It doesn't work. It needed a small screen. I have owned 2 of them. So close but so far away. 99% of the way there may as well be 0% of the way there because of their stubborn and cheap design decision
Great video! The one thing I would have also included are the normal looper overdubs (rather than the layering overdub you showed), as this will probably be the usual looping workflow for most people. After you have recorded an initial audio clip, simply hold record and then press any pad in the main grid on the track below the audio clip you want to overdub. This records a single overdub layer which auto-extends until you tell it to stop.
Thank you so much for the full video on v.3 - I'm so late to the Deluge it's amazing to get the intro and newest workflow and features all in one video.
I always enjoy your video content. I'm also astounded at the amount of effort and legwork you put into your videos. As a content creator myself, I understand how much work goes into it, but I usually only focus on the intricacies of one DAW, the amount of effort that goes into deep learning of every instrument you get your hands on is very impressive. Thank you for making these videos.
Just bought one. The really amazing thing is how fast it got here. Bought on their site Monday afternoon and was in my hands by 11am on Wednesday. New Zealand to Texas in about 36 hours. Crazy. Was looking for a sampler and this beat out the Digitakt and Octatrack for me. Only have had it a day and I love it.
@@elissitdesign it's great, Its about the size of a small laptop. I take mine on holiday and shorter journeys. The battery lasts around 6hrs. You can run it off a USB power bank as well.
Outstanding video as always. I’ve had my Deluge over a year and you’ve filled a bunch of gaps in my knowledge of it. Super excited to play with the new features.
This is soo exciting. Using Push2 with Mpc X for live Looping with Deluge + Akai force but this is what I’ve been waiting for......HARDWARE LOOPING in a portable DAW!!!!!!!!!!
Haven't used Deluge much this year but heard some tracks I made mainly with it a couple of years ago I really like the sound, the organised arrangements, the synth clips and samples. I'm going to bring it back in to my work. And having A4 lists dated and numbered with tracks I can look again at all that work.
Thanks! Yeah I’m working on a full length feature film - thinking of calling it The PadFather. Wait, that’s a different director. Maybe The Groovefellas
I'm very formidable on the Deluge but still picked up a few new things in this video. And obviously the looping part was a nice tutorial despite it causing my ears to bleed.
man.. your guides are absolutely everything I feel like I’ll EVER need for general operation of the equipment you offer videos for. So many times I was thinking “ah okay.. but what about ______?” and then you answer that very question as if you were reading my mind. I love your content, and I have gladly subscribed.
@@christianthompson1473 Those color pads speak to me,...I've been waiting for Euroburo and this is like an AIRCRAFT CARRIER EUROBURO/BeeBop had a baby with a Medusa/Tenori-On and a 1010 blackbox! Wow! I am droooooling to investigate it. I think my fingers would have a nice day on it. I had to pause the video and look at the silk-screen printing of the legends pertaining to the audio patching possibilities...the fact that it has arming/cueing possibilities really leads me to getting one and finding out if it can do The Whatcy DJ-Type Thing I'm Thinking About Doing WIth Eurorack That Would Otherwise Cost About 11k$...thing
@@christianthompson1473 Yes, I like this product but all these Ableton Live styled grid controllers with flashing lights would probably drive me nuts. MPC & Maschine sequencer workflow makes more sense to me with screens more like a daw
Excuse me for spaming with another comment but this tutorial is one of the best tutorials on music gear I've ever seen. Thank you for that and also kudos to Deluge coding team :)
I love you Loopop! Deluge is awesome and Synthstroms dedication is admirable but the several layers of major changes _are_ confusing if you haven't unlimited time to stay on top of 'em. ..mille grazie!
As a lontime MC-505 and MC-909 Groovebox enthusiast I was amazed when they announced the MC-707 and I immediately bought. Although the 707 is a good device, I never felt the same "let's jam and something great will come out" feeling I had with the old MC's. After trying the Blackbox from 1010 music I thought I had it until a friend of mine showed me the deluge. Sold my 707, bought a Deluge and I finally have that immediate workflow back I was searching for so long. absolutely love it.
Yeah. Good choice! That thing seems horribly overpriced for its function btw. I like the old roland groove boxes but with the deluge, it doesn't hold a candle imo.
This is why I'm subscribed! Great pedagogy. Would love to see some tips on mixing and finalizing groovebox tracks as there isn't much content out there.
I've been looking into and considering the Deluge for over a year now and this is the first time it has made any sense to me haha. The song view is still sort of confusing, but I actually understand how to actually start an idea and a minimal grasp of just how deep it can go with it.
I found out about the deluge yesterday, and with each Minute passing of this Review, my desire to get one grows more. It has like everything that i am missing on my circuit tracks (and more).
@@henninghoefer I agree...it's crazy how they installed the 70s style leds...but the shift key short cuts make up for this ... Its a higly desirable machine but the work flow is not sutited to all ...
Another great video, approaching a shiny new toy from a fundamentals-based perspective! Great for my understanding of the equipment landscape, bad for my pocketbook.
As usual, excellent comprehensive review - inspiring even perhaps in how to lay out a presentation. Cheers Loopop! I’m really torn between getting hold of the Octatrack or Deluge to pair up with a digitakt for a compact live performance set up. Having invested in learning the ‘(in)famous Elektron workflow’ I’m leaning towards the OT. I’ll record home made stems from my other gear and plan on using in a live set with a little impro. It will allow me to practice outside a chilly loft space studio over the winter! Decisions ...( 1st world problems).
I have ot and deluge. I say get deluge because it's amazing and easy and fun! OT is very difficult and limited if you want to make complete tracks. I use OT as a drum machine on steroids
@@RonCavagnaro I've landed on this vid because of my love/hate relationship with my Digitakt/Digitone-so cool, but some of the UI is absolutely ridiculous. Wondering if the Deluge would be more well-suited to jive with my mind. I can't fathom what Elektron designers were thinking g sometimes (mostly in regards to file structure and accessing different menus and functions).
That singing brings into keen focus one of the things I live about your videos. They're almost egoless! It's so refreshing that you're not trying to be a STAR. Thank you!
I really think they could of made the top UI much better and removed that dated oversize 70s calculator LED screen and replaced it with modern OLED screen for better viewing and more information. I do not mind the programming but this is a device for those who like over kill for everything and this is what it is its an over kill box. Not for me. Great overview and really enjoyed the way you broke it down.
I think the idea is NOT to have a screen, NOT TO HAVE ANY MENU. Being different, on an intuitive or muscle memory way. This is a very small company which is doing it’s own way, own product culture with a cycle of update which increase the value of their product with time. A direct control of sale and direct feedback with their customers. Deluge is unique and so the way it interface with user. MPC LIVE are dull of menu and screen like a computer. OCTATRACK is old deep menu driven technologie. both are very capable. Deluge is feel and listen. just different. The question of the screen was clearly pose on their forum and the answer from the creator of the deluge is that there is no plan for a DELUGE II. He has so much plan to improve and stretch the capability of the existing platform that the question of a screen was completely out...I think he is right. Today you get small oled everywhere with oscilloscope view and menu like an apple II computer... look like a fashion trend . (edit) After few weeks working on it with YT video and deep reading the paper manual I start to get the muscle memory and understand design. I buy synth preset to accelerate the pleasure as the synth design is not so usefull ( great to modified thing but starting from scratch a synth sound is not very practicle)...lack of rotary switches. like the op1 it is a machine to sketch and record EP. about the screen, it is a joke and part of the look. quite difficult to use when you browse files. more I use the deluge less I need it...but on the first few month with a daily use I will still missing it. I don’t kuse the octatrack but I understand that it is a completely different tool. complimentary. It need also month of work to use it .
Thanks for this! Love all your content and the production value and info shows the time you put in. When are we going to get a peek in your studio so we can see what inspires you and what gear you decide to keep around after all these reviews?
Thanks! The reviews *are* what inspire me... with this one in particular I didn't have much time but with many others I set a goal of a (hopefully) good jam or even a track (which is what you'll hear in the intro/outro)
Same! I'm pitting it up against Akai Force/Live II/X/One as well as MC-707/101. When he showed those X/Y buttons on this and hinted toward MPE coming to this in the future.. wow...now I'm much more willing to forgive the "too blinky/flashy" nature of some button operations and the lack of a beautiful multi-touch screen that Akai products have... and the woman's project at the end that allows managing Deluge from a PC is almost an equivalent to how MPC products have the Ableton Live Link feature 🤔
@@Bourgouche I just got a Deluge last week! (and a polyend Tracker last month) still learning but any questions lemme know if I was comparing this to a Force, though I've never used one, I'd be happy that I walked away with a truly battery operated device I could take anywhere with a built-in speaker and mic so even if I forgot my headphones / cables / etc I could bring it somewhere to create in the wild/public/etc. And because it has wooden sides and is quite small, it looks stylish enough to "belong" in public as opposed to a lot of these devices where it would look out of place to be out and about with one without being an obvious professional on the job sort of person oh, and I was right that the lights would annoy me and possibly even make me feel weird from all the flashing (at first), but there's a shortcut to set the brightness level, and once I learned some actual workflow I noticed that a lot of the "screens" (modes) I spent time in aren't nearly as flashy as when scrolling around a pattern full of colored notes. I got the Deluge for outdoor / warm month usage, while the Tracker is more my indoor / night time device that I store 1 TB of samples on. I'm planning on having the Deluge focus very little on sample and file management and be more of a "recon" device where I go out into the world and use inspiration to capture new sounds with an attached mic or just enjoy being outside while playing with the many synth presets on the Deluge. Its screen is almost worthless without having read the user manual, because you'll see _/-_+-_/¬\¦|¬×-\|¦[^> and apparently it's supposed to say "MIDI" lol like it's just ridiculous... you definitely gotta read the manual for the Deluge. The Tracker was more like just using a computer with different quirks. it was more self-explanatory because you get so much info from the screen. So idk, if you're planning on using a shit-ton of samples, maybe avoid the Deluge because menu-diving with a high school basketball scoreboard as your screen is fucking dumb. If I had to put my 1TB memory card into the deluge, I'd never get around to using any of em compared to on the Tracker, where I load up 40 per project easily. But it, and the Force, are stuck to the wall, so to speak. The MPC Live II isn't, but I didn't buy that either because I realized that it's not really a portable MUSIC maker but a portable BEAT maker that can kind of "fake it" with a little bit of melody. The Force is probably a better balance of both, but if I could choose between a Force or paying $1400 for my Tracker/Deluge combo, I'd still pick this so I could have 2 reasons to get the fuck away from my computer but still be able to make legit music, even if I go out in public or outside anytime soon, which of course I'll definitely want to after winter and the pandemic loosen their grip
@@connorcarbon Thanks for the in-depth reply, really appreciate it! Polyend tracker looks cool but I don't think I'm ready for the workflow... It's too far from what I'm used to and between day job, wife and kid I'm not going to be willing to learn something from scratch (same reason I never really got into the Digitakt as awesome as it is). What I'm looking for is something immediately fun and simple, that you switch, maybe connect a couple of external gear to, and start fucking around with. Obviously there will always be a learning curve but having watched few tutorial videos about Deluge now I believe I'll get there relatively fast. What you say about the MPC Live II as being more a beat making toy rather than a music making one feels very true, same reason I never really considered it, and I strongly suspect the Force to be in the same vein. I'm more of a preset synth + midi kind of guy, so less and less sure it is for me. Also I think you end up menu diving a lot, and at this point why not just get Push with Live? The thing is so big it's not going to leave your studio table anyway! I do have a couple of questions about the Deluge if you don't mind: - Have you tried to connect a midi mixer to it (I'm thinking Novation Launch Control XL or equivalent)? Having to mix / EQ / apply FX to every single element one by one seems like a bit of a pain, so wondering if there is a smart shortcut here? - Is there anyway to export separate stems into a DAW / record them separately? I'm thinking of using this as my main unit so if I draft songs on it I'd need to relatively easily export them to, say, Ableton to finish the arrangement and then move to mixing and mastering. If I have to record every single track one by one with the other ones muted that's going to take ages, and knowing me I'll just end up starting a new project every time lol... Thanks again and take care
It arrived yesterday. It'll take a while to master this little fella, but I can already see how it'll expand my music. What a crazy machine, rammed with features. 😉
Awesome! The Cosmos decided we needed a mind on Earth that could explain complex synthesis and it’s associated machinery to normal humans like me, so it created loopop. I’m dead serious!
Almost bought it...but realized that the firmware has outgrown the hardware with three button combos now... A new hardware design should be in the works... Waiting for that...
Unfortunately, it looks like They have no intention of addressing the hardware control interface... I ended up going with a Headrush Looperboard doubling as a 4 stereo channel mixer into an Akai Force at the same cost... It"s working out pretty good...
To anyone thinking of buying a Deluge, I will tell you that it is INCREDIBLY powerful. However, with that power, be prepared to do a lot of manual diving and shortcut learning. It is worth it though, believe me. This is a DAW in a hardware box.
I wish Deluge would resample itself from a chosen bar for say two bars, just to create a loop of the middle of a groove. It could then be switched to during a performance and held as a groove for however long was appropriate.
@alien brain I mention it in the video as well, song view is very similar to Live’s session - obviously every standalone Groovebox is more limited than a computer and daw
Personally i do not think the Deluge correlates to Live at all.. it does have a very capable though sometimes arcane to use, sequencer and offers plenty of sequencing goodies plus the easy to use note entry.. but as a Live and Deluge owner i do not see the similarities at all.
I usually love reading manuals but this was waaay more helpful :) After following along with my deluge and going through the entire tutorial, I have a really good grasp of the machine. Thanks! The only issue I have run into is with the midi clip view and setup. I’m sure I’ll figure it out ;)
loopop I figured it out. Sometimes you just have to get away from the machine, have some tea and then tackle the issue fresh - mostly had to do with confusing Deluge with multiple info on a single midi channel because I would mix up my Arturia midi channels when using the LEARN/INPUT and midi madness ensued. Hmmm could use this....🤪
The Deluge.... Awesome... Great demonstration here. Would there or could there be more greatness of this machine/ instrument, if two of these were implemented in a set up...???
Great review, as always. Once a machine like becomes SO feature-packed, I begin to wonder why not just use a DAW? This is where I landed with the Octatrack - I ditched it and have not looked back. For me, keeping a DAW-less setup more limited/specialized has helped me get more done and is more fun.
I think it's the tactile feedback. It's learning a touchy-Feely physical thing as opposed to investing yet another slice of time each day staring into the same computer screen. Also, with battery portability, you really could take this on a picnic 😅
Thanks! I honestly don’t have one; maybe the Continuum. I’m fortunate to be able to meet a new music buddy every week and you typically see the result on the channel.
Jan-Martin Ulvåg wow man I am fascinated by the motivation behind your comment. I mean, to say “no one” is simply ignorance but I’m curious about the incentive to share that fact. This instrument doesn’t appeal to everyone, but a simple RUclips search as well as the links in the description show a few really nice musical examples.
@@jan-martinulvag1953 Dude, what the hell xD This instrument can be played as just that: an instrument, capable of producing almost any timbre one might desire, and the sound totally depending on the human mind operating the tool. It doesn't have to part of a complex setup. On that note, have you SEEN Vangelis' current custom setup? It's *elaborate* to say the least. Have a think about it
@@jan-martinulvag1953 "Great music" is highly subjective. A classical composer can create a masterpiece with this machine, and so can an ambient-psychedelic-electronic musician or a highly technical Hip Hop producer - whether you see one or the other as great comes down to your personal taste :) The tool itself is just a medium - and a highly capable one in this particular context
Amazing as always. I enjoy these tutorials & reviews but I don't know how you can keep up with it all. I just have a few devices & it feels like they are Forever Machines: you can use them indefinitely & they don't stop pushing out new ideas, which is now greatly curtailing my GAS problem.
Thanks and that’s great to hear. I totally agree about devices pushing out ideas (or at least having a dialog). I guess for me it’s kind of like a talk show with synths as guests - always checking out what the guest of the week has to say. I’d love to hear more about your setup
@@loopop Hey Loopop, of course. Over the past few years, I've collected some gear but not for sure how to use it by the time I got it, but now I think I have more focus after a lot of studies & watching various RUclips videos like the ones you're producing. For hardware, from latest to oldest over the past 3 years have been: Alesis Vortex 2 Wireless controller, MiniBrute 2S (included a 6U eurorack case/ps), Volca Drum, BeatStep Pro, Maschine Jam, Seaboard Block, Machine Mikro Mk2, Novation Impulse, and Komplete Audio 6 audio interface to start. For software I have a lot & keep it upgraded from latest to oldest: VCV Rack Host, Studio One 4.5, Bitwig, NI Komplete 12, and Reason, plus several other plugins that I sometimes lose track of which ones I have. I also play guitar so I have a new Schecter I got last year & a practice amp. I actually need to add pedals or a multi-effects system for that & get a real amp (just one that isn't tube & blasts the neighbors before I can set the volume to 1 on the dial). When I first got the Machine Mikro Mk 2 a few years ago, I struggled greatly with how the interface worked. I didn't understand its features. Now after repeated exposure, using the software, & learning more about modular using Reaktor & VCV Rack, it all makes a great deal of sense. Since I play guitar, the Vortex 2 seems like a natural fit for a type of keyboard that I can use for melody, creative expression, & maybe some lead work. I see a lot of potential in being able to use the Vortex as a device to control different synths. For instance, I was thinking of getting the Korg Minilogue XD Module next to control it with the Vortex 2. I've already been using it to mess around with Massive X and one of the free Halion SE Guitar Harmonics samplers. It's a great deal of fun to play. It's amazingly slow on trying to figure out how to fully utilize everything I have so far though. On a Friday evening, I can plug the MiniBrute 2S into it, send an output signal from VCV Rack into its external input to add to the sound, then add the Volca Drum in as well & I'll be working on a tune the rest of the night without even knowing about all of the features I have at my fingertips due to already being engaged in the system. lol. I'm trying to force myself to read the manuals & take notes & avoid trying to make too much sound. Otherwise, I keep finding myself in these rabbit holes of exploration.
A couple of questions, firstly, what isn't too clear for me was the number of steps available for sequencing? You quickly mentioned zooming in/out to get more steps, but you didn't go any further in your explanation. I'm hesitating between a Korg SQ64 (which I have), and exchanging it for this. I understand that this isn't a sequencer, it's much more than that (and the SQ64's goal), one can clearly see, but what I'm interested in is a combination of things, most importantly: the sequencing capabilities and the possibility to link up to some modular equipment. if you could just clarify the sequence lengths, I'd be most grateful - and any other remarks of course. Lastly, although this is a few years ago (the video), there's no pros/cons section here as you often do. From watching this I have to say I can't see any cons here, it seems amazing/perfect - except they're a little difficult to get hold of (in the EU).
FIRST: loopop is a great channel with wonderful info, great in depth video's, keep up the good work! SECOND: I have never seen a more nightmare way to program than this Deluge. I have been programming synths, beat boxes, samplers, processors, MIDI sequencers, old hardware recorders since the 1980's...is it just me, or is the Deluge type of button pushing - color light - for parameters and controls a gigantic headache. It has been a long time since a tutorial gave me a headache just looking at all those coded color lights for info. Is it just me, or is it 1980 again with the only display a 3 digit LED? Obviously I will never consider this machine for any price but compared to the simplicity of 1010music Black Box, I will be going with them. Anything the Black Box is missing such as deep synthesis and post processing will be handed with external gear and the multi output to other mixer channels. Did you notice there are only one stereo pair output on the Deluge? With a price of over $1000.00 what is going on? The reason I watched this video is the great compliments I heard from many musicians on the Deluge, but you better use this everyday or you'll be selling it for something simpler to program.
@@loopop :D its a sign of your moral quality. If I may translate: "Hi" is a bold artistic statement, in the context of "I tested this thing, I played it, I made music with it, I exposed my personal emotional-artistic vulnerabilities by doing nearly ANYTHING with it, yeah, I have thoughts, and I'm gonna share it, right or wrong, and, oh, by the way, I tried to be be right, because, you deserve as much, so--I'm careful, thorough, yeah, and, so, yeah, here it is, thanks for your patience, especially the Creator of the widget, yeah, I don't want to drive you to thinking about That Bridge, its cool, calama te, its software right cuz IF I'm wrong I'd not only nuke the video and go again but wow you know (and you can trust me in this) that WHEN you put out a significant firmware release (cuz you know, by reading this far, you implicitly agree, that, "its just software") I'll WILL re-review it, and voila, not only is this video a re-review but, also, practically a sales/marketing/function/manual process in its own, gezhundheit, take breath now, its cool, I'm cool, you're cool, good evening." I'm certain, based on my education, training, and, experience, that's what Mr. Loop meant by "Hi?". Oh and btw, the "?" is tentative, subject to peer review.
@@loopop BAHAHAHA ba .... ha -HAHAHAHA! (thanks man, appreciate your vids a LOT... the Deluge might be my jam as a "multi-thing" thing. I like the large mod matrix, and the doing-of-the-multiple things...like you said, the "why can't the other guys stream?" thing is HUGE but so is re-sampling (bounce down!), CV, MIDI, Gate...its a cousin to the MPC's but more useful even still! Thanks again.
The capabilities of the MC707 as a synth are 1000x that of the deluge.. and it has better FX also.. but Deluge has easy note entry, scale modes, and a better arranger.. in reality..using the Deluge as the sequencer for the MC707 would be the best of both units.
Buy the Deluge!! I've made more progress with my Deluge in a few months than I did with my OT MKii in several years. I just sold the OT last week. Good riddance, OT!
I'm still not convinced that you're not a cyborg from the future. It's amazing how skilled you've become at making these videos. Having made several (comparatively horrible) training videos in my life, the details:pacing ratio you manage to regularly pull off is an absolute marvel to me.
+1 cyborg, duh, its obvious, and yeah, the marriage-type-ring is not fooling us (oh oh, maybe I will be Terminated now) because duh, you would have obviously studied The Historic Records and seen that (since you're an Infiltrator Model, we decided) that "duh" (a valid cybernetic conclusion) "...I should have a wedding/marriage/bonding/partner ring because this will lower THEIR defenses in expectation of my humanity" etc., blah blah(tm), etc.(tm). Yes, I'm a little tipsy. God Bless You, Everyone.
I'd imagine doing these types of videos for years would lead to it being a sort of subconscious act, like playing an instrument after years of practice and experimentation.
@Screw Kalergi So you're saying Ziv's actually human, sold his soul to cyborg devils and those devils craft the scripts he uses in order to dupe us? I could see that. Ziv is the Robert Johnson of RUclips gear videos. Fair enough.
he must be a cyborg. He showed no shyness or awkwardness at 33:54 after hearing his own voice play back... ._.
Yes I totally agree and they stand the test of time. Hardware tends to do that. Saved me a ton of money by demonstrating features that I may or may not need. Thanks!
The best electronic instrument in the world right now just got better.
I just ordered a new one yesterday (Nov 2022). I was between the Deluge and OP-1 Field, and I decided to go with the Deluge. I still plan on getting a Field someday, but after about a week of trying to figure out what I wanted, the Deluge ultimately won me over. I feel that the Deluge is ultimately the better machine, and it's hundreds of dollars cheaper. The website said the cost is going to be going up over the next few months, but it's still going to be cheaper than the Field. The new ones also have an OLED screen, so the new ones are even better than the older models.
I was in the same boat just over a year ago and I'm so glad I went with the Deluge. It's just got such a great set of features that make it feel endless every time you use it. I feel like everything you get in this box is well worth the money, and you'd be hard pressed to find anything else that offers as much as it does. Just got mine back with the new OLED fitted too, and can confirm that it's awesome! Also (shameless self plug), feel free to check out my channel. I have a whole video manual on there that can help you learn it :)
Op-1 field is basically a toy
It amazes me how you can be so intuitive and have so much knowledge on so many different devices... really incredible!
@The Doctor is probably the kind of person that goes to a concert tells the guy sitting next to him with a wink “meh it’s calling reading the notes and playing them”
He gives me so much pleasure
I said it once before I'll say it again, best music tech channel on the internet. Period.
Absolutely the best!
Ordered mine last week. It's insane how with just one update they basically turned it into the most feature rich hardware looper on the marker. Words cannot express how excited I am!
Now, how is it? :D
My Deluge is coming TODAY!! I'm watching this one for the 5th time, thank you so much for this vid it's gonna help a lot!
Just ordered mine after watching this
@@usanomad To both of you, check out the sample packs available for this. I have found the presets somewhat tinny and digital sounding. With sample packs you can get a preset sound that can be tweaked to preference. The Juno 106 is amazing for me as I love making synth/retrowave sounding stuff. Good luck!
I only need to watch this 20 more times. Action packed. I need this video in offline mode.
if you get youtube premium you can download it ... i listen to these type of things on flights.
Sólo tienes que poner pp al final de la palabra youtubepp
Have had a Deluge for quite a while now, and this is by far the best compact walk-through of it so far!
2 years in, how are you liking the deluge?
@@Tylerfrompdx The Deluge remains the most used device of all the ones I have (except the computer ;-). I have recently started using the Torso T-1 a lot too, but for sequencing and as one voice in a set-up, it is still the best, and a brilliant all-in-one as well.
Please do a review of newest firmware and OLED version
Arrangement view in a groove box? Finally!!!
I want Deluge, ah but I purchased one 18 months ago, that's the Loopop paradox.
I just discovered this. - I had a Push for about 18 months - didn't use it much because I already work on a computer all day and switching to it just seemed like work. - but... are the limitations with this worth the convenience of not having to deal with a computer?
@@brentgreeff1115 Try it you may really like it if you're definitely not inspired by Push/computer.
I'm watching this video yet again because the deluge is so freaking feature rich. I was looking at expression knobs for some pedals I play thru, not knowing the deluge had one basically built in AND that I could automate stuff with CV clips (idk y I didn't know that). Endlessly cool!
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Grid views
1:50 - Controls
4:40 - Connectivity
5:35 - Project overview
7:55 - Sequencing
11:10 - Chance & iteration
12:00 - Playing live
13:40 - Automation
15:10 - Song view
17:40 - Arranger
21:15 - Synth engine
22:50 - FM synth
24:40: - Multisampling
25:45 - Time stretch
27:10 - Filters
28:05 - Voice options
29:30 - Modulation
32:30 - Audio clips
33:30 - Looping
35:00 - Overdub layers
36:40 - Resampling
37:45 - Effects
39:35 - MIDI & CV
41:05 - Misc
Thanks!
I am so impressed by this device. The synth engine (and sound quality in general) is the best I've heard in a long time, if not ever.
You are my literally the goat...loopop forever :)
You never fail to delivery some of the most in depth content on this stuff. You do fuckin awesome!
Yes, this little box just keeps getting better, and better, and better..... Such great support. Even though the deluge has a few little issues and some obvious limitations, I'm still really glad I bought one from this great company.
100% sold, those arranger options are really comprehensive and I love it. It's why I don't use some other grooveboxes, wow, this thing is impressivee
Thanks loopop for the tutorial. You are just a wonderful teacher.
I agree, but I wish he spoke a little slower. New content takes my brain a bit to absorb. I am new to some of these concepts on any daw or hardware, so learning the concepts along with execution is difficult in real time. I think a beginner course would be 👍.
@@daikuone replay, pauze, RUclips speed modifier the fact that this is on RUclips means you can do whatever :)
Unit ordered. I'm gonna have to watch this soo many times.
@@shadowbanned5164 best thing i've ever bought
My favorite request of any RUclipsr Synth person:..."Synthstrom, can you please add autotune to the next update of Deluge?". HA! Fantastic video as always.
I never would've guessed a full audio workstation could work with a primitive digit display, but Synthstrom really has put a ton of work into making the layout of the Deluge sensible and approachable... It's truly astounding
It doesn't work. It needed a small screen. I have owned 2 of them. So close but so far away. 99% of the way there may as well be 0% of the way there because of their stubborn and cheap design decision
@@joshk2181 What device would you suggest as an alternative?
Fixed now, it's got oled
Great video! The one thing I would have also included are the normal looper overdubs (rather than the layering overdub you showed), as this will probably be the usual looping workflow for most people. After you have recorded an initial audio clip, simply hold record and then press any pad in the main grid on the track below the audio clip you want to overdub. This records a single overdub layer which auto-extends until you tell it to stop.
Thanks and indeed some cool features were omitted from the video and that’s definitely a good one!
2 hour video required to cover everything!
Thank you so much for the full video on v.3 - I'm so late to the Deluge it's amazing to get the intro and newest workflow and features all in one video.
Your channel is pure audio chocolate
Chocolate Rain? Sorry I couldn’t resist 😉
I always enjoy your video content. I'm also astounded at the amount of effort and legwork you put into your videos. As a content creator myself, I understand how much work goes into it, but I usually only focus on the intricacies of one DAW, the amount of effort that goes into deep learning of every instrument you get your hands on is very impressive. Thank you for making these videos.
Thanks very much!
Just bought one. The really amazing thing is how fast it got here. Bought on their site Monday afternoon and was in my hands by 11am on Wednesday. New Zealand to Texas in about 36 hours. Crazy.
Was looking for a sampler and this beat out the Digitakt and Octatrack for me. Only have had it a day and I love it.
Still use it?
@@anthoonius_gabagoolius I do. It’s nearly a DAW in a box. Pretty great machine.
Great video as always. I love my Deluge, amazing development by the Synthstrom team!
Matt Parkes how’s this device for traveling around... like a train ride?
@@elissitdesign it's great, Its about the size of a small laptop. I take mine on holiday and shorter journeys. The battery lasts around 6hrs. You can run it off a USB power bank as well.
Outstanding video as always. I’ve had my Deluge over a year and you’ve filled a bunch of gaps in my knowledge of it. Super excited to play with the new features.
You are incredible. Thank you! I've watched this so many times now.
Superb video, still getting to grips with the deluge and all its vast features. Glad I sold my OP1 to buy this 😆
Couldn't agree more it puts the OP1 to shame.
Never have I coveted anything as fervently as this box of wonders
Finally got my own deluge. Thank you for inspiring this purchase
woow..this is a huge instrument!
This is soo exciting. Using Push2 with Mpc X for live Looping with Deluge + Akai force but this is what I’ve been waiting for......HARDWARE LOOPING in a portable DAW!!!!!!!!!!
Great video, thank you. You're reviewing all the stuff that I'm lusting after, which both useful and dangerous at the same time! :)
Whoa, downrush is cool!
Thanks for always making great videos! My Deluge is currently in the mail from NZ! Excited!
Haven't used Deluge much this year but heard some tracks I made mainly with it a couple of years ago I really like the sound, the organised arrangements, the synth clips and samples. I'm going to bring it back in to my work. And having A4 lists dated and numbered with tracks I can look again at all that work.
Ok, you are like the Scorsese of groove box workflow overviews.
Thanks! Yeah I’m working on a full length feature film - thinking of calling it The PadFather. Wait, that’s a different director. Maybe The Groovefellas
@@loopop 😊😂
Such an awesome job covering the Synthstrom Deluge and the latest OS version 3! Thank you so very much!
This video is RIGHT up my alley!
Thanks for this awesome video Loopop, you've made my night.
I'm very formidable on the Deluge but still picked up a few new things in this video. And obviously the looping part was a nice tutorial despite it causing my ears to bleed.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you
Great stuff as always loopop. Thanks for all you do for the community!
man.. your guides are absolutely everything I feel like I’ll EVER need for general operation of the equipment you offer videos for. So many times I was thinking “ah okay.. but what about ______?” and then you answer that very question as if you were reading my mind. I love your content, and I have gladly subscribed.
Interesting device and amazing price tag!
Perfect timing with releasing that!
Thanks for this! Been waiting for the update and a comprehensive guide from YOU!
I really wish they would come out with an option to be able to use an iPad screen as a display a la OP-Z.
This product would be so amazing if it had a decent sized colour screen - perhaps even touch.
All those coloured pads would drive me crazy
@@christianthompson1473 Those color pads speak to me,...I've been waiting for Euroburo and this is like an AIRCRAFT CARRIER EUROBURO/BeeBop had a baby with a Medusa/Tenori-On and a 1010 blackbox! Wow! I am droooooling to investigate it. I think my fingers would have a nice day on it. I had to pause the video and look at the silk-screen printing of the legends pertaining to the audio patching possibilities...the fact that it has arming/cueing possibilities really leads me to getting one and finding out if it can do The Whatcy DJ-Type Thing I'm Thinking About Doing WIth Eurorack That Would Otherwise Cost About 11k$...thing
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@@christianthompson1473 Yes, I like this product but all these Ableton Live styled grid controllers with flashing lights would probably drive me nuts. MPC & Maschine sequencer workflow makes more sense to me with screens more like a daw
Excuse me for spaming with another comment but this tutorial is one of the best tutorials on music gear I've ever seen. Thank you for that and also kudos to Deluge coding team :)
Another excellent video. Thanks for all your work. Time to download 3.0!
Beautiful device, this channel really feed me with my obsession for music device design.
I love you Loopop! Deluge is awesome and Synthstroms dedication is admirable but the several layers of major changes _are_ confusing if you haven't unlimited time to stay on top of 'em. ..mille grazie!
I was going to buy the mc-707 and then I found this beauty :)
As a lontime MC-505 and MC-909 Groovebox enthusiast I was amazed when they announced the MC-707 and I immediately bought. Although the 707 is a good device, I never felt the same "let's jam and something great will come out" feeling I had with the old MC's. After trying the Blackbox from 1010 music I thought I had it until a friend of mine showed me the deluge. Sold my 707, bought a Deluge and I finally have that immediate workflow back I was searching for so long. absolutely love it.
Yeah. Good choice! That thing seems horribly overpriced for its function btw. I like the old roland groove boxes but with the deluge, it doesn't hold a candle imo.
Cooper of Navarone absolutly, for me it has everything I need
This is why I'm subscribed! Great pedagogy. Would love to see some tips on mixing and finalizing groovebox tracks as there isn't much content out there.
Thanks! I’ve been meaning to do that for a while... hopefully soon
So hype for the looping
Best gear ever
Such a high quality production about such a great tool, loving it!
I just bought one of these. Cannot wait to start digging in and learning how to use this thing.
I've been looking into and considering the Deluge for over a year now and this is the first time it has made any sense to me haha. The song view is still sort of confusing, but I actually understand how to actually start an idea and a minimal grasp of just how deep it can go with it.
OMG it's out!
Edit: Thanks a lot for the tutorial!
Absolutely brilliant in both length and depth. I definitely want one - NOW! Cheers. Lee
I found out about the deluge yesterday, and with each Minute passing of this Review, my desire to get one grows more. It has like everything that i am missing on my circuit tracks (and more).
…but only until about halfway through: Browsing the SD card with a 4-digit 7-segment display is just insane (especially for the price).
@@henninghoefer I agree...it's crazy how they installed the 70s style leds...but the shift key short cuts make up for this ...
Its a higly desirable machine but the work flow is not sutited to all ...
Another great video, approaching a shiny new toy from a fundamentals-based perspective! Great for my understanding of the equipment landscape, bad for my pocketbook.
amazing review once again! keep it up! thanks
As usual, excellent comprehensive review - inspiring even perhaps in how to lay out a presentation. Cheers Loopop!
I’m really torn between getting hold of the Octatrack or Deluge to pair up with a digitakt for a compact live performance set up. Having invested in learning the ‘(in)famous Elektron workflow’ I’m leaning towards the OT. I’ll record home made stems from my other gear and plan on using in a live set with a little impro. It will allow me to practice outside a chilly loft space studio over the winter!
Decisions ...( 1st world problems).
I have ot and deluge. I say get deluge because it's amazing and easy and fun! OT is very difficult and limited if you want to make complete tracks. I use OT as a drum machine on steroids
@@RonCavagnaro I've landed on this vid because of my love/hate relationship with my Digitakt/Digitone-so cool, but some of the UI is absolutely ridiculous. Wondering if the Deluge would be more well-suited to jive with my mind. I can't fathom what Elektron designers were thinking g sometimes (mostly in regards to file structure and accessing different menus and functions).
That singing brings into keen focus one of the things I live about your videos. They're almost egoless! It's so refreshing that you're not trying to be a STAR. Thank you!
I really think they could of made the top UI much better and removed that dated oversize 70s calculator LED screen and replaced it with modern OLED screen for better viewing and more information. I do not mind the programming but this is a device for those who like over kill for everything and this is what it is its an over kill box. Not for me. Great overview and really enjoyed the way you broke it down.
I think the idea is NOT to have a screen, NOT TO HAVE ANY MENU.
Being different, on an intuitive or muscle memory way.
This is a very small company which is doing it’s own way, own product culture with a cycle of update which increase the value of their product with time.
A direct control of sale and direct feedback with their customers. Deluge is unique and so the way it interface with user.
MPC LIVE are dull of menu and screen like a computer.
OCTATRACK is old deep menu driven technologie.
both are very capable. Deluge is feel and listen. just different. The question of the screen was clearly pose on their forum and the answer from the creator of the deluge is that there is no plan for a DELUGE II. He has so much plan to improve and stretch the capability of the existing platform that the question of a screen was completely out...I think he is right.
Today you get small oled everywhere with oscilloscope view and menu like an apple II computer... look like a fashion trend . (edit)
After few weeks working on it with YT video and deep reading the paper manual I start to get the muscle memory and understand design. I buy synth preset to accelerate the pleasure as the synth design is not so usefull ( great to modified thing but starting from scratch a synth sound is not very practicle)...lack of rotary switches.
like the op1 it is a machine to sketch and record EP.
about the screen, it is a joke and part of the look. quite difficult to use when you browse files.
more I use the deluge less I need it...but on the first few month with a daily use I will still missing it.
I don’t kuse the octatrack but I understand that it is a completely different tool. complimentary. It need also month of work to use it .
You’re truly a maestro in every ways. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for this! Love all your content and the production value and info shows the time you put in. When are we going to get a peek in your studio so we can see what inspires you and what gear you decide to keep around after all these reviews?
Thanks! The reviews *are* what inspire me... with this one in particular I didn't have much time but with many others I set a goal of a (hopefully) good jam or even a track (which is what you'll hear in the intro/outro)
Your voice is truly mesmerizing
Thanks! I'm continuing to research the Deluge to decide if I want to get one. Your videos have been helpful.👊
Same! I'm pitting it up against Akai Force/Live II/X/One as well as MC-707/101. When he showed those X/Y buttons on this and hinted toward MPE coming to this in the future.. wow...now I'm much more willing to forgive the "too blinky/flashy" nature of some button operations and the lack of a beautiful multi-touch screen that Akai products have... and the woman's project at the end that allows managing Deluge from a PC is almost an equivalent to how MPC products have the Ableton Live Link feature 🤔
@@connorcarbon Same here - Deluge vs Force dilemma... Have you made a decision yet?
@@Bourgouche I just got a Deluge last week! (and a polyend Tracker last month) still learning but any questions lemme know
if I was comparing this to a Force, though I've never used one, I'd be happy that I walked away with a truly battery operated device I could take anywhere with a built-in speaker and mic so even if I forgot my headphones / cables / etc I could bring it somewhere to create in the wild/public/etc. And because it has wooden sides and is quite small, it looks stylish enough to "belong" in public as opposed to a lot of these devices where it would look out of place to be out and about with one without being an obvious professional on the job sort of person
oh, and I was right that the lights would annoy me and possibly even make me feel weird from all the flashing (at first), but there's a shortcut to set the brightness level, and once I learned some actual workflow I noticed that a lot of the "screens" (modes) I spent time in aren't nearly as flashy as when scrolling around a pattern full of colored notes. I got the Deluge for outdoor / warm month usage, while the Tracker is more my indoor / night time device that I store 1 TB of samples on. I'm planning on having the Deluge focus very little on sample and file management and be more of a "recon" device where I go out into the world and use inspiration to capture new sounds with an attached mic or just enjoy being outside while playing with the many synth presets on the Deluge. Its screen is almost worthless without having read the user manual, because you'll see _/-_+-_/¬\¦|¬×-\|¦[^> and apparently it's supposed to say "MIDI" lol like it's just ridiculous... you definitely gotta read the manual for the Deluge. The Tracker was more like just using a computer with different quirks. it was more self-explanatory because you get so much info from the screen. So idk, if you're planning on using a shit-ton of samples, maybe avoid the Deluge because menu-diving with a high school basketball scoreboard as your screen is fucking dumb. If I had to put my 1TB memory card into the deluge, I'd never get around to using any of em compared to on the Tracker, where I load up 40 per project easily. But it, and the Force, are stuck to the wall, so to speak. The MPC Live II isn't, but I didn't buy that either because I realized that it's not really a portable MUSIC maker but a portable BEAT maker that can kind of "fake it" with a little bit of melody. The Force is probably a better balance of both, but if I could choose between a Force or paying $1400 for my Tracker/Deluge combo, I'd still pick this so I could have 2 reasons to get the fuck away from my computer but still be able to make legit music, even if I go out in public or outside anytime soon, which of course I'll definitely want to after winter and the pandemic loosen their grip
@@connorcarbon Thanks for the in-depth reply, really appreciate it!
Polyend tracker looks cool but I don't think I'm ready for the workflow... It's too far from what I'm used to and between day job, wife and kid I'm not going to be willing to learn something from scratch (same reason I never really got into the Digitakt as awesome as it is). What I'm looking for is something immediately fun and simple, that you switch, maybe connect a couple of external gear to, and start fucking around with. Obviously there will always be a learning curve but having watched few tutorial videos about Deluge now I believe I'll get there relatively fast.
What you say about the MPC Live II as being more a beat making toy rather than a music making one feels very true, same reason I never really considered it, and I strongly suspect the Force to be in the same vein. I'm more of a preset synth + midi kind of guy, so less and less sure it is for me. Also I think you end up menu diving a lot, and at this point why not just get Push with Live? The thing is so big it's not going to leave your studio table anyway!
I do have a couple of questions about the Deluge if you don't mind:
- Have you tried to connect a midi mixer to it (I'm thinking Novation Launch Control XL or equivalent)? Having to mix / EQ / apply FX to every single element one by one seems like a bit of a pain, so wondering if there is a smart shortcut here?
- Is there anyway to export separate stems into a DAW / record them separately? I'm thinking of using this as my main unit so if I draft songs on it I'd need to relatively easily export them to, say, Ableton to finish the arrangement and then move to mixing and mastering. If I have to record every single track one by one with the other ones muted that's going to take ages, and knowing me I'll just end up starting a new project every time lol...
Thanks again and take care
Great video. Thanks again for doing these!
It arrived yesterday. It'll take a while to master this little fella, but I can already see how it'll expand my music. What a crazy machine, rammed with features. 😉
Awesome! The Cosmos decided we needed a mind on Earth that could explain complex synthesis and it’s associated machinery to normal humans like me, so it created loopop. I’m dead serious!
Loopop! Your presentations are the best on the Web. God bless you and thx. T
Almost bought it...but realized that the firmware has outgrown the hardware with three button combos now... A new hardware design should be in the works... Waiting for that...
That's why I sold mine. It's a jungle.
Unfortunately, it looks like They have no intention of addressing the hardware control interface... I ended up going with a Headrush Looperboard doubling as a 4 stereo channel mixer into an Akai Force at the same cost... It"s working out pretty good...
Hi Loopop, any chance doing an update with the knew ability to upgrade and retrofit the LED segment display with the new OLED?
A chance for sure! I'm trying to put a deposit on the retrofit but the page won't load....
Just got one and learning rn with this!
Why haven't I heard of this before? Looks epic!
This thing is from another planet 🚀 🪐
To anyone thinking of buying a Deluge, I will tell you that it is INCREDIBLY powerful. However, with that power, be prepared to do a lot of manual diving and shortcut learning. It is worth it though, believe me. This is a DAW in a hardware box.
I wish Deluge would resample itself from a chosen bar for say two bars, just to create a loop of the middle of a groove. It could then be switched to during a performance and held as a groove for however long was appropriate.
I think it actually does some of this
wow. i actually want one. i use ableton so much, i feel like id be right at home using this
@@alien_brain talking about workflow wise man.
@alien brain I mention it in the video as well, song view is very similar to Live’s session - obviously every standalone Groovebox is more limited than a computer and daw
Personally i do not think the Deluge correlates to Live at all.. it does have a very capable though sometimes arcane to use, sequencer and offers plenty of sequencing goodies plus the easy to use note entry.. but as a Live and Deluge owner i do not see the similarities at all.
I usually love reading manuals but this was waaay more helpful :) After following along with my deluge and going through the entire tutorial, I have a really good grasp of the machine. Thanks!
The only issue I have run into is with the midi clip view and setup. I’m sure I’ll figure it out ;)
Thanks! have you contacted their support? They’re pretty responsive
loopop I figured it out. Sometimes you just have to get away from the machine, have some tea and then tackle the issue fresh - mostly had to do with confusing Deluge with multiple info on a single midi channel because I would mix up my Arturia midi channels when using the LEARN/INPUT and midi madness ensued. Hmmm could use this....🤪
The Deluge.... Awesome... Great demonstration here. Would there or could there be more greatness of this machine/ instrument, if two of these were implemented in a set up...???
Great review, as always. Once a machine like becomes SO feature-packed, I begin to wonder why not just use a DAW? This is where I landed with the Octatrack - I ditched it and have not looked back. For me, keeping a DAW-less setup more limited/specialized has helped me get more done and is more fun.
I think it's the tactile feedback. It's learning a touchy-Feely physical thing as opposed to investing yet another slice of time each day staring into the same computer screen. Also, with battery portability, you really could take this on a picnic 😅
i think dawless is the future.
seriously my fav yt channel! would really like to know your favorite hardware to make music with :)
Thanks! I honestly don’t have one; maybe the Continuum. I’m fortunate to be able to meet a new music buddy every week and you typically see the result on the channel.
Jan-Martin Ulvåg wow man I am fascinated by the motivation behind your comment. I mean, to say “no one” is simply ignorance but I’m curious about the incentive to share that fact. This instrument doesn’t appeal to everyone, but a simple RUclips search as well as the links in the description show a few really nice musical examples.
@@jan-martinulvag1953 Dude, what the hell xD
This instrument can be played as just that: an instrument, capable of producing almost any timbre one might desire, and the sound totally depending on the human mind operating the tool. It doesn't have to part of a complex setup.
On that note, have you SEEN Vangelis' current custom setup? It's *elaborate* to say the least. Have a think about it
@@jan-martinulvag1953 "Great music" is highly subjective. A classical composer can create a masterpiece with this machine, and so can an ambient-psychedelic-electronic musician or a highly technical Hip Hop producer - whether you see one or the other as great comes down to your personal taste :)
The tool itself is just a medium - and a highly capable one in this particular context
I am so old... I still love playing house & DnB on four turntables...
When I produce I have reason or live open and a midi controller... so old
Dan Allen that’s not old lol that’s what I do.....wait
Amazing as always. I enjoy these tutorials & reviews but I don't know how you can keep up with it all. I just have a few devices & it feels like they are Forever Machines: you can use them indefinitely & they don't stop pushing out new ideas, which is now greatly curtailing my GAS problem.
Thanks and that’s great to hear. I totally agree about devices pushing out ideas (or at least having a dialog). I guess for me it’s kind of like a talk show with synths as guests - always checking out what the guest of the week has to say. I’d love to hear more about your setup
@@loopop Hey Loopop, of course. Over the past few years, I've collected some gear but not for sure how to use it by the
time I got it, but now I think I have more focus after a lot of studies & watching various RUclips videos like the
ones you're producing.
For hardware, from latest to oldest over the past 3 years have been: Alesis Vortex 2 Wireless controller, MiniBrute 2S
(included a 6U eurorack case/ps), Volca Drum, BeatStep Pro, Maschine Jam, Seaboard Block, Machine Mikro Mk2, Novation Impulse, and Komplete Audio 6 audio interface to start. For software I have a lot & keep it upgraded from latest to oldest: VCV Rack Host, Studio One 4.5, Bitwig, NI Komplete 12, and Reason, plus several other plugins that I sometimes lose track of which ones I have. I also play guitar so I have a new Schecter I got last year & a practice amp. I actually need to add pedals or a multi-effects system for that & get a real amp (just one that isn't tube & blasts
the neighbors before I can set the volume to 1 on the dial).
When I first got the Machine Mikro Mk 2 a few years ago, I struggled greatly with how the interface worked. I
didn't understand its features. Now after repeated exposure, using the software, & learning more about modular using
Reaktor & VCV Rack, it all makes a great deal of sense. Since I play guitar, the Vortex 2 seems like a natural fit for a type of keyboard that I can use for melody, creative expression, & maybe some lead work. I see a lot of potential in being able to use the Vortex as a device to control different synths. For instance, I was thinking of getting the Korg Minilogue XD Module next to control it with the Vortex 2. I've already been using it to mess around with
Massive X and one of the free Halion SE Guitar Harmonics samplers. It's a great deal of fun to play. It's
amazingly slow on trying to figure out how to fully utilize everything I have so far though.
On a Friday evening, I can plug the MiniBrute 2S into it, send an output signal from VCV Rack into its external input to add to the sound, then add the Volca Drum in as well & I'll be working on a tune the rest of the night without even knowing about all of the features I have at my fingertips due to already being engaged in the system. lol. I'm trying to force myself to read the manuals & take notes & avoid trying to make too much sound. Otherwise, I keep finding myself in these rabbit holes of exploration.
Omfg this is circuit for grownups ❤️
I wish it had those displays 22:10.
A couple of questions, firstly, what isn't too clear for me was the number of steps available for sequencing? You quickly mentioned zooming in/out to get more steps, but you didn't go any further in your explanation. I'm hesitating between a Korg SQ64 (which I have), and exchanging it for this. I understand that this isn't a sequencer, it's much more than that (and the SQ64's goal), one can clearly see, but what I'm interested in is a combination of things, most importantly: the sequencing capabilities and the possibility to link up to some modular equipment. if you could just clarify the sequence lengths, I'd be most grateful - and any other remarks of course.
Lastly, although this is a few years ago (the video), there's no pros/cons section here as you often do. From watching this I have to say I can't see any cons here, it seems amazing/perfect - except they're a little difficult to get hold of (in the EU).
Thank you so much for this! :D
Can't find anywhere in the UK that actually sells these things, so despite being tempted I'm a little wary of grabbing one.
They only sell direct from New Zealand
I bought mine direct from Synthstrom in New Zealand. They ship fast! I highly recommend getting this wonderful device.
@@loopop Guess I know what I'm doing next time I visit NZ
@@wiegraf9009 they’re actually pretty good at shipping…
@@loopop I go there to see family so might as well make it a high point of the journey!
FIRST: loopop is a great channel with wonderful info, great in depth video's, keep up the good work! SECOND: I have never seen a more nightmare way to program than this Deluge. I have been programming synths, beat boxes, samplers, processors, MIDI sequencers, old hardware recorders since the 1980's...is it just me, or is the Deluge type of button pushing - color light - for parameters and controls a gigantic headache. It has been a long time since a tutorial gave me a headache just looking at all those coded color lights for info. Is it just me, or is it 1980 again with the only display a 3 digit LED? Obviously I will never consider this machine for any price but compared to the simplicity of 1010music Black Box, I will be going with them. Anything the Black Box is missing such as deep synthesis and post processing will be handed with external gear and the multi output to other mixer channels. Did you notice there are only one stereo pair output on the Deluge? With a price of over $1000.00 what is going on? The reason I watched this video is the great compliments I heard from many musicians on the Deluge, but you better use this everyday or you'll be selling it for something simpler to program.
FIRST: thanks! SECOND: exactly why I make these videos is so you judge whether this works for you :)
this thing blows EVRYTHING else out of the water
@@bradejensen Oh they look, and we will have so much nice cheaper gear to come.
i love how unsure loopop is when he says Hi at the start- “Hi?”
I'm not quite sure what you mean...
@@loopop :D its a sign of your moral quality. If I may translate: "Hi" is a bold artistic statement, in the context of "I tested this thing, I played it, I made music with it, I exposed my personal emotional-artistic vulnerabilities by doing nearly ANYTHING with it, yeah, I have thoughts, and I'm gonna share it, right or wrong, and, oh, by the way, I tried to be be right, because, you deserve as much, so--I'm careful, thorough, yeah, and, so, yeah, here it is, thanks for your patience, especially the Creator of the widget, yeah, I don't want to drive you to thinking about That Bridge, its cool, calama te, its software right cuz IF I'm wrong I'd not only nuke the video and go again but wow you know (and you can trust me in this) that WHEN you put out a significant firmware release (cuz you know, by reading this far, you implicitly agree, that, "its just software") I'll WILL re-review it, and voila, not only is this video a re-review but, also, practically a sales/marketing/function/manual process in its own, gezhundheit, take breath now, its cool, I'm cool, you're cool, good evening." I'm certain, based on my education, training, and, experience, that's what Mr. Loop meant by "Hi?". Oh and btw, the "?" is tentative, subject to peer review.
Greg S. I think you over simplified it
@@loopop BAHAHAHA ba .... ha -HAHAHAHA! (thanks man, appreciate your vids a LOT... the Deluge might be my jam as a "multi-thing" thing. I like the large mod matrix, and the doing-of-the-multiple things...like you said, the "why can't the other guys stream?" thing is HUGE but so is re-sampling (bounce down!), CV, MIDI, Gate...its a cousin to the MPC's but more useful even still! Thanks again.
Deluge vs Roland mc 707... who wins?
@@OoraMusic "terrible" because of sound quality? or interface? or why?
The capabilities of the MC707 as a synth are 1000x that of the deluge.. and it has better FX also.. but Deluge has easy note entry, scale modes, and a better arranger.. in reality..using the Deluge as the sequencer for the MC707 would be the best of both units.
I was going to buy an Octatrak MKii and the centerpiece for a DAWlwss live rig but, after watching this, I am second-guessing that decision.
Buy the Deluge!! I've made more progress with my Deluge in a few months than I did with my OT MKii in several years. I just sold the OT last week. Good riddance, OT!
Im struggling with the fact its just a load of blinking lights?
@@TheGhostfaceKLR "Progress" is the 1000$ keyword here