Ziggy’s strategy this season- play all sorts of junk preflop, cbet flop 100% of the time no matter how many players are in the pot, double/triple barrel 3rd pair for some reason, make ridiculous hero call on river and lose.
Howard Lederer: "I think its much more fun arguing about bets later... when everyones forgotten what they had." is this his approach to Full Tilt's money management haha
@@Silent_Control He basically treated the Full Tilt account balances as his own personal bank account. He probably used that money to reinvest or something. I think this all became public when the US government outlawed online poker and players wanted to get their money out of their accounts. That's when everybody found out that the money wasn't actually there anymore.
Interesting spot around 23:50 when Eli Elezra put in a bunch of chips then announced 33. Which given how much he put in could easily have meant 33K, but Eli meant 3.3K. Several interesting implications here, firstly verbal is usually binding, so having announced 33 and put in about 80K, I think Howard Lederer's question about holding Eli to 33K is valid even though he didn't actually say anything beyond 33 the number. Even though that would have been an absurd raise. Also, there was a pretty good 2-3 second pause between Eli putting the chips in and his verbal, so it's conceivable he could have gotten stuck the whole amount if the next player had called or jammed on him quickly, unlikely but possible. I think everyone was a little stunned that Eli put 80K into a 6.8K pot 🤣. That almost made Zigmund's overbets look sane. Also, the prop bets on who would win at golf, Durrr or Gus on a broken leg, were just comedy gold. The talk about the 3 hour delay was interesting, none of the guys seemed to like the idea, funny now that there are 30 minute delays and everyone IS on their phone for the entire tournament.
They said Ziggy "likes to change his bet sizes, he's so unpredictable, how do you play against a guy like that" lol. Simple you make trips and let him bet it for you 🤣🤣
Seems to me like Eli let Justin have that hand (when he later down AQ around the 38:00 mark). I may be totally wrong but that’s the feeling i got. Like he didn’t want to embarrass him twice or something. Yeah I’m probably wrong
I'd but ziggy, a steak dinner, a table massage and free drinks...just keep him sitting. I'd laugh at his jokes, even ask him to be the godfather of my kids. Never seen such a bad whale.
Howard is there because he owns the company, Feldman got invited because the table needed a fish (Howard isn't enough because he's a nit and only plays a hand every 2-1/2 hours.
I think Eli called w that 10-4 suited because he saw Phil finally coming back to the table and wanted to impress him... He WAS Israeli secret service LMAO 29:30
@@hiphopknights ziggy was1 of the best cash game specialists on online headsup… he just played bad this session but that does not mean he is a bad player….
My 2 all time favorite poker players besides Doyle Brunson of course Who is in a League all of his own. I love Daniel nigrano and Phil ivy and when they play together it's hilarious. I have never seen Phil ivy laugh so much. He is very handsome when he laughs
Lederer comes to all the big games This is a man when he worked for an online poker site stole money from player's accounts. He managed to ruin many players who couldn't get their money out of there accounts now he comes around to the big games like nothing ever happened
Lol he’s rich, idiot. He’s made more money playing poker online than you will in your entire lifetime of whatever it is you do (guessing flipping hamburgers)
Lederer comes into these game This is a man who worked for an internet poker site. He took money from players accounts and ruined many players. He shows up at these games and act like nothing happened. What is that?
I was thinking exactly the same, I can't even watch the video as almost everyone is chewing with their mouth wide open I can see their tonsils.. disgusting.
If simple table talk actually affects the way you think through a hand, you may be at the wrong table or playing the wrong game. Lol. Most home games or ring games are even more chatty than this.
@@Pritpal90 they're playing players who know spots and know their opponents know spots... sometimes you have to try because they're smart enough to know how to commit lots of chips to outplay someone.
Everyone is playing smart,what I wouldn't give to play against these guys, where would you find out,make 50-60 grand an bail. Could be one hand,got the $$ but on the fence, I find I'm lucky when facing new players. I would buy in for at least$200.000 to cover big bets when having the winners
The other commentator (not tuckman) Commentates like he is seeing the cards, A good commentator does so while putting themselves in the players shoes with no info other than whats in their hand and on the board. Idk nice guy but this isnt his gig
Every body on the table love Ziggy money,why not it easy money,I wonder he ever win a dollars or ever go home losing less than 100 thousand.I wonder what he thinking or he never think at all.
The young man that keeps putting his glasses on and off, might as well have a sign saying I don't know what I'm doing. I am an old woman and I would bet on some of those hands he keeps throwing away
All these guys are playing with other people's money but Sahamies must be funded by a multi-billionaire. His playing is idiotic, or the sponsors of the game are giving him the money and telling him to make it "exciting." I am not Monday morning quarterbacking, his play doesnt seem real.
These other pros need to shut up while people are in play! Very unproffesional! And the stuff they talk about… Corny! Just play the game. No one is impressed. These the same guys who got their lunch taken from them in highschool! And inherited all of mom amd dad’s money! Shut uo!
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Ziggy’s strategy this season- play all sorts of junk preflop, cbet flop 100% of the time no matter how many players are in the pot, double/triple barrel 3rd pair for some reason, make ridiculous hero call on river and lose.
An drink 🍸 🤪 vodka
Winning strategy
Howard Lederer: "I think its much more fun arguing about bets later... when everyones forgotten what they had." is this his approach to Full Tilt's money management haha
The ultimate foreshadowing
Howard lederer out there playing with my money
It's painful watching Lederer play. After everything he's done I just want to see him lose every single hand. Biggest POS in poker.
Me too
what did he do?
@@Silent_Control Google him and the Full Tilt scandal. You'll see.
@@Silent_Control He basically treated the Full Tilt account balances as his own personal bank account. He probably used that money to reinvest or something. I think this all became public when the US government outlawed online poker and players wanted to get their money out of their accounts. That's when everybody found out that the money wasn't actually there anymore.
What's painful is listening to him talk.
Interesting spot around 23:50 when Eli Elezra put in a bunch of chips then announced 33. Which given how much he put in could easily have meant 33K, but Eli meant 3.3K. Several interesting implications here, firstly verbal is usually binding, so having announced 33 and put in about 80K, I think Howard Lederer's question about holding Eli to 33K is valid even though he didn't actually say anything beyond 33 the number. Even though that would have been an absurd raise. Also, there was a pretty good 2-3 second pause between Eli putting the chips in and his verbal, so it's conceivable he could have gotten stuck the whole amount if the next player had called or jammed on him quickly, unlikely but possible. I think everyone was a little stunned that Eli put 80K into a 6.8K pot 🤣. That almost made Zigmund's overbets look sane.
Also, the prop bets on who would win at golf, Durrr or Gus on a broken leg, were just comedy gold.
The talk about the 3 hour delay was interesting, none of the guys seemed to like the idea, funny now that there are 30 minute delays and everyone IS on their phone for the entire tournament.
They said Ziggy "likes to change his bet sizes, he's so unpredictable, how do you play against a guy like that" lol. Simple you make trips and let him bet it for you 🤣🤣
i sooo love Elezra. such a happy attitude plus some really interesting skills :)
Ha gayyyyy
He’s a massive fish
He’s a massive fish
Seems to me like Eli let Justin have that hand (when he later down AQ around the 38:00 mark). I may be totally wrong but that’s the feeling i got. Like he didn’t want to embarrass him twice or something. Yeah I’m probably wrong
I'd but ziggy, a steak dinner, a table massage and free drinks...just keep him sitting. I'd laugh at his jokes, even ask him to be the godfather of my kids. Never seen such a bad whale.
How was Folderer in that line up lol.... same goes for Feldman
Howard is there because he owns the company, Feldman got invited because the table needed a fish (Howard isn't enough because he's a nit and only plays a hand every 2-1/2 hours.
@@BdotYewToob makes sense lol
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i like the raises by ivey most of the time in position
Ziggy watching Hellmuth in S4.
"HOLD MY BEER"
Tom is the chip leader and I've literally never seen him play a hand
same in previous episode
Ziggie with some of the worst plays I have ever seen....never seen someone burn half a million on live TV!!
Can you believe this lineup, especially towards the end...
If you wanna wake up in the hospital, take a shot every time Tuckman calls Gus "The Great Dane" in a cringey overly-enthusiastic tone.
I think Eli called w that 10-4 suited because he saw Phil finally coming back to the table and wanted to impress him...
He WAS Israeli secret service LMAO
29:30
What year is this from?
Feldman kills the show taking 10 every time it’s his turn to act Zzzzzzzzzz fest
They should’ve let “Ziggy” win a pot or two... they could’ve taken him for a million. What a terrible player.
He’s profited more in poker than you’ll ever make in your life
@@timcarter817 Is Ziggy your friend or family member as to why you defend him?
@@hiphopknights ziggy was1 of the best cash game specialists on online headsup… he just played bad this session but that does not mean he is a bad player….
My 2 all time favorite poker players besides Doyle Brunson of course Who is in a League all of his own. I love Daniel nigrano and Phil ivy and when they play together it's hilarious. I have never seen Phil ivy laugh so much. He is very handsome when he laughs
Matusow in intro … ‘no one intimidates me.’
Then goes on to play about 10 hands in the whole season.
Spot the fish yet, Feldman?
Lederer comes to all the big games This is a man when he worked for an online poker site stole money from player's accounts. He managed to ruin many players who couldn't get their money out of there accounts now he comes around to the big games like nothing ever happened
does howard play any hand at those shows?
He was one of the main owners of Full Tilt, so it was probably his decision who played, and he was very wealthy!
@@ThePokerVaults what an A hole
"The years havent been that kind" lol why they do Gus dirty like that
50:15 - He doesn't look like Starsky OR Hutch…he looks like Plastic Man!
He’s right, Eli does have a great smile doesn’t he?
Here @ 17:21 I would have gone all in to counter Eli's raise.
Lederer what a nit
Yeah, Howard folded 88s because he had an uncanny sense of where he was at in the hand. Totally. Absolute fucken savant! Definitely bro!
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Justin Smith blinky like a pacman character. Talk about a easy read.
lol Eli with the nasty 10 4 ,,,, I get so angry at lucky calling stations that play garbaGe
Poor Ziggy, the Pay Off Wizard.
So what happened to Annette,Mike the mouth, and Patrick. They were on the last show....
Where does Ziggy get money to play? He is usually one of the big losers.
Lol he’s rich, idiot. He’s made more money playing poker online than you will in your entire lifetime of whatever it is you do (guessing flipping hamburgers)
@@timcarter817 Why are you defending Ziggy?
@@hiphopknights this guy running around defending ziggy while insulting strangers
ye,Ziggy certainly is the fish.
32:32 BURNNNNNNN
Lederer comes into these game This is a man who worked for an internet poker site. He took money from players accounts and ruined many players. He shows up at these games and act like nothing happened. What is that?
Get a brain please...
Elezra folding Dwan’s hand 🤣🤣🤣
We know back them Howard’s making $50k a month or more and he’s so damn tight. Never in a hand! Tight wad
I never would be able to sit beside someone chewing gum like a cow-and is a cheat.
I was thinking exactly the same, I can't even watch the video as almost everyone is chewing with their mouth wide open I can see their tonsils.. disgusting.
When I am trying to focus and figure out a hand all that chattering would drive me crazy
If simple table talk actually affects the way you think through a hand, you may be at the wrong table or playing the wrong game. Lol. Most home games or ring games are even more chatty than this.
Is ziggy there to burn money ? Such a bad player
I play 1-2 and even I know you aren’t supposed to call in all those spots
@@Pritpal90 Euros..
Still not as bad as Feldman. Guy is the worst
@@Pritpal90 they're playing players who know spots and know their opponents know spots... sometimes you have to try because they're smart enough to know how to commit lots of chips to outplay someone.
musta gotten all his money online where the rigged system caters to guys like him
Everyone is playing smart,what I wouldn't give to play against these guys, where would you find out,make 50-60 grand an bail. Could be one hand,got the $$ but on the fence, I find I'm lucky when facing new players. I would buy in for at least$200.000 to cover big bets when having the winners
The other commentator (not tuckman) Commentates like he is seeing the cards, A good commentator does so while putting themselves in the players shoes with no info other than whats in their hand and on the board. Idk nice guy but this isnt his gig
Lol Robert Williamson is a bracelet winner and has about $3M live earnings, moron
@@timcarter817 He's a PLO player, and this dude's comment isn't wrong.
Shut up Howard... I don't like Helmuth, but I definitely prefer Phil over you!
Why is Howard even invited to this events,he doesn't play scared money lol.
Probably cause he owned the company that set up the game and filmed the entire show... he just invites himself.
Every body on the table love Ziggy money,why not it easy money,I wonder he ever win a dollars or ever go home losing less than 100 thousand.I wonder what he thinking or he never think at all.
Felt man n Smith flying to hi
Where is gus hansen leg???? I broke it. Shame
"I use the term 'back heels' cos' i'm a douchebag," Tuckman
The young man that keeps putting his glasses on and off, might as well have a sign saying I don't know what I'm doing. I am an old woman and I would bet on some of those hands he keeps throwing away
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I really believe Tom is yet to get laid.
I highly doubt that, he has a very confident vibe
It's not like he couldn't just pay for it if it ever came down to it
Lederer comes to the game and he acts like nothing happened he worked at a poker site and stole huge amounts of money
What site
@@babarhead6956 fulltilt
This was pre-bust.
Obviously, he's not allowed to show his face in any poker room since then.
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So it turns out that Tom Dwan is not jewish!
All these guys are playing with other people's money but Sahamies must be funded by a multi-billionaire. His playing is idiotic, or the sponsors of the game are giving him the money and telling him to make it "exciting." I am not Monday morning quarterbacking, his play doesnt seem real.
Considering these are all the top “pros” in the world, everybody honestly sucks except Ivey
Lederer and Sahamies is sooo donky.
lol. Play for the glory or money
Thin call=Bad call!
This is money laundering at its finest
Worst commentators EVER!
Howard Lederer and Mike Madasow worst players in poker history!!!
Mike is one the worst ? R u nuts dude ?
Howard? Sure.
Mike? No.
He's a full-blown degenerate at managing money, but his accomplishments in poker are undeniable.
has anyone seen lederer win anything? even when on poker after dark he dont win shit. if just wants to throw money away ill take it
Benyamine play so bad
I think Andrew feldman's nickname should be vanilla because hes so boring
These other pros need to shut up while people are in play! Very unproffesional! And the stuff they talk about… Corny! Just play the game. No one is impressed. These the same guys who got their lunch taken from them in highschool! And inherited all of mom amd dad’s money! Shut uo!
Shut up and play poker!
This show reminded me that Howard Lederer is still breathing.
That needs to change.