I have Saturn in the 11th house, and when I was younger, I never had issues making friends, but I am obvious of it because I wasn't focused on it or didn't give it much energy. People do nagivate towards me, but I am not as trusting, but I am only accepting of authentic connections and friendships. It takes me time to see some people as my inner circle chose, and sometimes I just don't see it, so I don't try to connect
I have Saturn in the 11th house and have no friends. I have a lot of difficulties with friendships, I am very picky. I have created a big group to discuss Philosophy and didnt work well 🤣. I have a huuuge difficulty in groups.
sun, mercury and Saturn in the 11th in scorpio.... I have lived with social anxiety for most of my life and have hidden away whilst all I want to do is go out and be an activist to save young people from sexual trauma!!
Mercury with Saturn deepens the mind and helps the person have very structured thoughts and routines! Can make your thinking more negative and prone to worry too, but usually later in life the person learns a very good control over her thoughts
Thank u lada Capricorn ascendant here Saturn in 11th with mercury sun and Venus according to Vedic chart . Some of the things so true .. I have just started my Saturn mahadasha 19 years to go but first 36 years have been more down than ups but I am thankful for quality friends and family support . Jupiter in first house and 16 years were a bit tough and I thought young age gone in struggles and I am doomed but your video gives hope I can still achieve what I want to achieve in life thank you 🙏 ❤️😊
Hi Lada, you are absolutely correct about the age gap of my sister and I! We're exactly 7 years apart! You're astrology insights never fails to amaze me! :)
Few friends but am extreme loyal. That’s right. I was always surrounded by people but real friends … nope. Just a few. I’m 37 now and hope this gets better cause after being a mom of 2 I just wanna disappear from social life.
Saturn in the 11th in Aries, I have two friends, both very Saturnian. I know I need to make more of an effort to get out and make more friends yet I am tired at 50 of making an effort and then being hurt in the long run. Paying big karma patiently by giving all of me to others in my work for not much monetary results. Also as a Gemini ascendant I can get very lonely and isolated. Even though my intentions are purely love others find me unapproachable and mysterious.
wow... Virgo here... I was teased and bullied as a kid... lots of pain and trauma in my childhood family etc... your description is spot on. Im self employed and dislike it sometimes when its slow lol.... suffer from depression. Life of a photographer. Also have a Moon in VII... eeek thanks for your video.
i have saturn in aries in eleventh it seems hopeless for me. i have two friends very close friends but both are alcoholics and as you correctly said i have worked very hard to keep them as friends.i have adjusted to all their bad behaviour.yet they give me great emotional support. saturn in eleventh gives physco- friends?i mean friends who are mentally disturbed?
Hey, Lada.. I have saturn, neptune and uranus in the 11th house( Capricorn).How could this affect the 11th house? I have very selective friends and I prefer isolation.
A master explanation. I don't have Saturn in 11 but I have Capricorn cusp with Jupiter on it. No problem meeting people but very hard keeping them ...They can't see me.
friends are always older than me. A few but good friends. I seldom get help from them tho. Sat ist aspected by none but aspecting mercury and sun in the 1st and ketu in the 8th. I am motherless, not wealthy yet and keep ill health. I am a single mum of two lil kids. Sat frightens me, since sat phase is coming in Dec for next 19 yrs... oh Gosh!
Oh my, Lada! Why did I see this only now?! Haha. Anyway, this resonated to me well. I have Saturn in XI house and I'm a Cappy ascendant. I'm 35 yrs old and I just finished my specialty training this year (I'm a physician by profession) which has been delayed for 4 years because of repeated rejections and delays. It was a really difficult time for me. Until I got accepted 2 yrs ago and finished it this year. Lada, how does this affect Saturn's presence in the XI house since I also have Pluto in the XI house? Thank you for this! Thank you for giving me hope. Stay safe.
Hi lada !!...i am really impressed by your approach....would like to see more vids of other planets in houses. I am a doctor by profession and love astrology as a hobby. I like the way you interpret the chart Maybe later you can interpret a random birth chart so that we can understand how to have a holistic approach towards a chart including all planets and aspects. Thank you :)
This placement is the bane of my existence. Not a fan of it at all. The sign it's placed in doesn't help either. I definitely can identify with your assessment of this placement for the most part. My Moon sits in the 11th house with Saturn as well so some of the friendship stuff and fitting in isn't so daunting. But I definitely grow through the stages in friendships you mentioned.
I also have moon conjunct Saturn in the 11th. I didn’t have so much trouble when I was younger making friends but come to think of it I did try very hard when I was younger. Now a days I feel like a lone wolf but if attracts certain Friendships that I consider to be more “real” and very bonded friendships. I also went through trauma through friendships and had horrible friends but I think I learned how to stop putting energy into friends who didn’t give anything in return. I know this aspect will be worth it in the end.
Hi Lada..found the answer about my question posted here on one of your vids. You said that with 2 roman numbers..both of the houses must be checked and could be good for us. At this point maybe another doubt raises in my mind. But I eventually will post it on the right vid. Have a great day and week
Jupiter, Moon, Sun, Saturn in Libra 11th house.... Venus conjunct Mercury in Virgo 10th house... Rahu in Gemini 7th house... Currently going through Mercury Mahadasha... Saturn mahadasha was interesting...
I have a question about placements and time of birth. There is no way that St. Joseph's Hospital is going to tell me the time of my birth 73 years ago. They did not record it - because the birth of another poor, Irish Catholic in a big family was of no importance to anyone then. I have a birth chart on which Saturn is placed the 11th House by the astrologer. I have the impression that the outer planets move slowly so they stay in any house for months, not hours. If this assumption is wrong please clarify for me. Thank you
Doesn't really relate to me, I mean i've always have kinda had enough money to get by, i'm still young, but have never experienced difficulty with getting a job, maybe I have Jupiter in the 8th house so perhaps that's why im lucky with money in a sense. In true vedic astrology saturn in the 11th is an amazing position as 11th house rules Aquarius which is ruler of Saturn, so has more beneficial aspects as opposed to bad. I personally have always had friends, I do like my own space as well, but am usually very popular within my social circle, but then I have sun in 7th and moon in 10th, mars in 5th, so they counteract the effects of that I feel. Plus remember Aquarius is a sociable sign, just doesn't make many close connections but overall really cares about people, so you'll be popular among people but just not have many close friends, which is exactly me, I know lots of people but only have a few close friends at one time. And I am fiercely loyal among my friends, but also probably due to my Scorpio venus.
Thank you for posting. I've subscribed! I have Moon and Saturn in Cancer in 11th. With Pluto, Sun, and Uranus in the 2nd in Libra. One of my goals is to be wealthy...at the very least-comfortable. Since the beginning of this year I have written down everything I buy...everything. My NN is in Capricorn/ 5th house, and I want to learn as much as I can about investments and the stock market. Do you think it will ever happen for me?
It is a bit of a painful combo--Moon and Saturn as it makes one very aware of their weaknesses and constantly thinking of them. But again age mellows this. In the 11th one can be very sensitive to social acceptance and recognition. Emotionally it is a hard position for a woman to have Saturn Moon together, though I have met amazing women with Saturn Moon in Cancer(my sister in law-the youngest partner in law company in UK!) I mean the level of recognition in society one can get with such a position is tremendous, but emotionally often such a woman feels a bit starved for appreciation or understanding. But it can always be turned to a positive after mid 30-ties onwards
Do you have a healthy social life. I don't but it's by choice. I think it's because my North Node is in the 4th in Placidus and the 5th using Whole sign. I just prefer to stay home :)
Lada, I also have PISCES in Saturn in the 11th! I know you mentioned Cap and Aquarius, but could my Taurus Rising assist in making money after 35, also? I mean, since it's sextiling Saturn?
Really enjoying this series !!! On an information mania… LOL The wife is in the 11th house of friendships .. I love being married……….Does Pluto play a major role in disruption and ability to achieve a desired level of happiness… ? :(
Dear Lada:) ..have to admit that through your vids and astrology, only a hobby for me, I am learning more and more every day. But I always find weird things..probably only to my ignorant eyes. I have sa, mars and ju in 11 "space" of your chart..all in virgo.. but there with 2 roman numbers, X and XI. Do i have to listen both vids about sa in X and XI house or only one? Plus from an other calculator the all 3 are in midhaven? Does it mean smtg? What a mess!! Anyway, tks again if u can help.
11th house cusp in 28° Libra with Pluto, Mercury, Sun and Saturn Stellium in Scorpio Sextile to Asc in Capricorn and living through my Saturn Return. And yes, saturn is a tough but wise teacher... what do you think?
Hiya Lada Im a taurus asc with saturn in the 11th house and everything you said was spot on! Im about to qualify as a mental health nurse in my 40's. I also have mercury in the the 11th house too what impact does this have please. Thank you
Hi lada i have saturn in my midheaven in the 10th house does this improve my finances after 30, or is it more about public recognition in terms of status and job postion with this placing? Thank you.
Jupiter is asleep in Libra, so can't do much to help Saturn in the birth chart, but it might be in good dignity in the other divisional charts, so it can help in other areas of life
Hi Lada, please answer me...if I have Saturn transit 11 house will I know secrets about the father? I wish if u can make series of Saturn transit thru houses...
Also...whats more important...planets sitting in 5th house or the same planets sitting with the 5th house lord. How do we see the difference in predictions relating to both conditions. Can you please explain with an example. Thank you.
I would like to know the difference between A planet actually sitting in a house..... from..... the same planet aspecting the house(in a different chart)....how will the interpretation change in both conditions?
I have the same thing--Jupiter with Saturn--check out my video on Jupiter aspect Saturn, but the 11th house will surely be important with both social status planets there! It can start manifesting better after 35
Lada, I believe your chart calculator is false. There are multiple other calculators out there and this one is the only one who gives me a different reading.. are you sure the time zones are correct??
Hey, Lada.. I have saturn, neptune and uranus in the 11th house( Capricorn).How could this affect the 11th house? I have very selective friends and I prefer isolation.
I have Saturn in the 11th house, and when I was younger, I never had issues making friends, but I am obvious of it because I wasn't focused on it or didn't give it much energy.
People do nagivate towards me, but I am not as trusting, but I am only accepting of authentic connections and friendships.
It takes me time to see some people as my inner circle chose, and sometimes I just don't see it, so I don't try to connect
same here to me
I have Saturn in the 11th house and have no friends. I have a lot of difficulties with friendships, I am very picky. I have created a big group to discuss Philosophy and didnt work well 🤣. I have a huuuge difficulty in groups.
omg same !!!! I don't do friendship now
with age you will make more and more money :)
Lada Duncheva i have this placement at which age will start good time
iam aquarius..ardra star
I have this placement in Aquarius, and have absolutely NO FRIENDS!!! :(
same
I have 1 lol
sun, mercury and Saturn in the 11th in scorpio.... I have lived with social anxiety for most of my life and have hidden away whilst all I want to do is go out and be an activist to save young people from sexual trauma!!
I Have Also Same Conjunction In Scorpio.
I think that is very good and needed in today's society. I hope you find your way! :)
Mercury with Saturn deepens the mind and helps the person have very structured thoughts and routines! Can make your thinking more negative and prone to worry too, but usually later in life the person learns a very good control over her thoughts
Thank u lada Capricorn ascendant here Saturn in 11th with mercury sun and Venus according to Vedic chart . Some of the things so true .. I have just started my Saturn mahadasha 19 years to go but first 36 years have been more down than ups but I am thankful for quality friends and family support . Jupiter in first house and 16 years were a bit tough and I thought young age gone in struggles and I am doomed but your video gives hope I can still achieve what I want to achieve in life thank you 🙏 ❤️😊
Hi Lada, you are absolutely correct about the age gap of my sister and I! We're exactly 7 years apart! You're astrology insights never fails to amaze me! :)
Few friends but am extreme loyal. That’s right. I was always surrounded by people but real friends … nope. Just a few. I’m 37 now and hope this gets better cause after being a mom of 2 I just wanna disappear from social life.
Saturn in the 11th in Aries, I have two friends, both very Saturnian. I know I need to make more of an effort to get out and make more friends yet I am tired at 50 of making an effort and then being hurt in the long run. Paying big karma patiently by giving all of me to others in my work for not much monetary results. Also as a Gemini ascendant I can get very lonely and isolated. Even though my intentions are purely love others find me unapproachable and mysterious.
where u sun and moon? if u have SN in 11th house, u are giving, sometimes people taking u for granted
wow... Virgo here... I was teased and bullied as a kid... lots of pain and trauma in my childhood family etc... your description is spot on. Im self employed and dislike it sometimes when its slow lol.... suffer from depression. Life of a photographer. Also have a Moon in VII... eeek thanks for your video.
ethanr432 I got the same placements, but in different signs
you are so charismatic :)
I have saturn in the eleventh house in Aquarius.
any good things??!!!
SAME, ITS NOT FUN
no good things till now full struggle
Same here
Yup
i have saturn in aries in eleventh
it seems hopeless for me.
i have two friends very close friends but both are alcoholics and as you correctly said i have worked very hard to keep them as friends.i have adjusted to all their bad behaviour.yet they give me great emotional support.
saturn in eleventh gives physco- friends?i mean friends who are mentally disturbed?
Hey, Lada.. I have saturn, neptune and uranus in the 11th house( Capricorn).How could this affect the 11th house? I have very selective friends and I prefer isolation.
Hey, I have the same planets and signs. Where you born on April 15th? I have many acquaintances but a small and good group of friends.
A master explanation. I don't have Saturn in 11 but I have Capricorn cusp with Jupiter on it. No problem meeting people but very hard keeping them ...They can't see me.
True...I can totally see happening my 29 years of life
You're awesome Lada. Thank you for this. I would love you to do my chart someday!
Thank you for this! Seems to fit my life story.
I have Saturn in the 11th house in Aquarius :)
Very good
oh if yo have your Saturn in Libra you will get your Knighthoon no problem! Saturn gives the best results there :)
Lada I have Saturn in the 2nd house being a Capricorn Ascendant .Please shed some light
I have heard Saturn in eleventh house is the best placement. 😶😶😶
I heard also..
Me too
Absolutely right in my case. Thanks.
Saturn in the 11th retrograde, virgo rising, moon also in the 11th.
Hey Lada, that is literally ALL. GOOD. Show me the money, Universe!!!!
friends are always older than me. A few but good friends. I seldom get help from them tho. Sat ist aspected by none but aspecting mercury and sun in the 1st and ketu in the 8th. I am motherless, not wealthy yet and keep ill health. I am a single mum of two lil kids. Sat frightens me, since sat phase is coming in Dec for next 19 yrs... oh Gosh!
Interesting and thanks for going in depth -- really good!
You tell me? How r you social networks and friendships? If saturn is aspected by friends he can still work well
Thank you, gives me hope
eerie how spot on this is... except the money part; but I think I have Jupiter helping me out in that regard.
Oh my, Lada! Why did I see this only now?! Haha. Anyway, this resonated to me well. I have Saturn in XI house and I'm a Cappy ascendant. I'm 35 yrs old and I just finished my specialty training this year (I'm a physician by profession) which has been delayed for 4 years because of repeated rejections and delays. It was a really difficult time for me. Until I got accepted 2 yrs ago and finished it this year.
Lada, how does this affect Saturn's presence in the XI house since I also have Pluto in the XI house?
Thank you for this! Thank you for giving me hope. Stay safe.
I have jupiter and saturn in the 11th house
Hi lada !!...i am really impressed by your approach....would like to see more vids of other planets in houses. I am a doctor by profession and love astrology as a hobby. I like the way you interpret the chart
Maybe later you can interpret a random birth chart so that we can understand how to have a holistic approach towards a chart including all planets and aspects. Thank you :)
This placement is the bane of my existence. Not a fan of it at all. The sign it's placed in doesn't help either. I definitely can identify with your assessment of this placement for the most part. My Moon sits in the 11th house with Saturn as well so some of the friendship stuff and fitting in isn't so daunting. But I definitely grow through the stages in friendships you mentioned.
I also have moon conjunct Saturn in the 11th.
I didn’t have so much trouble when I was younger making friends but come to think of it I did try very hard when I was younger.
Now a days I feel like a lone wolf but if attracts certain Friendships that I consider to be more “real” and very bonded friendships.
I also went through trauma through friendships and had horrible friends but I think I learned how to stop putting energy into friends who didn’t give anything in return.
I know this aspect will be worth it in the end.
you made my day
true but i dont go for friends with money, i have ascendant in leo lol maybe better after 50
Hi Lada..found the answer about my question posted here on one of your vids. You said that with 2 roman numbers..both of the houses must be checked and could be good for us. At this point maybe another doubt raises in my mind. But I eventually will post it on the right vid. Have a great day and week
Jupiter, Moon, Sun, Saturn in Libra 11th house.... Venus conjunct Mercury in Virgo 10th house... Rahu in Gemini 7th house... Currently going through Mercury Mahadasha... Saturn mahadasha was interesting...
damn Lada, you described my life again ! Lol ;) thank you for your hard work making all these videos
Very accurate, I even have distant siblings that are ten years older than me.
Saturn Capricorn 18°07'29 in house 11 direct
Saturn 11th pisces
Me too
I have a question about placements and time of birth.
There is no way that St. Joseph's Hospital is going to tell me the time of my birth 73 years ago. They did not record it - because the birth of another poor, Irish Catholic in a big family was of no importance to anyone then.
I have a birth chart on which Saturn is placed the 11th House by the astrologer.
I have the impression that the outer planets move slowly so they stay in any house for months, not hours.
If this assumption is wrong please clarify for me.
Thank you
I have Saturn in 11th house in taurus
I have both sa and ju in my 11th house Taurus
My sun & mars in Taurus both 11th house and have Aries Saturn 11th house.
i have jupiter in capricon ascendent and saturn in 11th house, what does it say?
interesting, you mentioned NHS!!, I am trying to bring in changes ...Great difficulty because they dont lie changes. TNX
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I like your glasses face
so true. Lada, I have Saturn and Ketu in 11th house in pisces, aspect by mars and rahu...i don't knw what that means ...
Same Saturn and Ketu in pisces in 11th house Aspected by Sun and Rahu in 5th :/
Doesn't really relate to me, I mean i've always have kinda had enough money to get by, i'm still young, but have never experienced difficulty with getting a job, maybe I have Jupiter in the 8th house so perhaps that's why im lucky with money in a sense. In true vedic astrology saturn in the 11th is an amazing position as 11th house rules Aquarius which is ruler of Saturn, so has more beneficial aspects as opposed to bad. I personally have always had friends, I do like my own space as well, but am usually very popular within my social circle, but then I have sun in 7th and moon in 10th, mars in 5th, so they counteract the effects of that I feel. Plus remember Aquarius is a sociable sign, just doesn't make many close connections but overall really cares about people, so you'll be popular among people but just not have many close friends, which is exactly me, I know lots of people but only have a few close friends at one time. And I am fiercely loyal among my friends, but also probably due to my Scorpio venus.
Thank you for posting. I've subscribed!
I have Moon and Saturn in Cancer in 11th. With Pluto, Sun, and Uranus in the 2nd in Libra. One of my goals is to be wealthy...at the very least-comfortable. Since the beginning of this year I have written down everything I buy...everything. My NN is in Capricorn/ 5th house, and I want to learn as much as I can about investments and the stock market. Do you think it will ever happen for me?
Great lecture, Lada. What if Moon is with Saturn in Cancer in eleventh?
It is a bit of a painful combo--Moon and Saturn as it makes one very aware of their weaknesses and constantly thinking of them. But again age mellows this. In the 11th one can be very sensitive to social acceptance and recognition. Emotionally it is a hard position for a woman to have Saturn Moon together, though I have met amazing women with Saturn Moon in Cancer(my sister in law-the youngest partner in law company in UK!) I mean the level of recognition in society one can get with such a position is tremendous, but emotionally often such a woman feels a bit starved for appreciation or understanding. But it can always be turned to a positive after mid 30-ties onwards
Lada Duncheva
Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
that's mine too! I feel frantic all the time! But I am a man not a woman!
Do you have a healthy social life. I don't but it's by choice. I think it's because my North Node is in the 4th in Placidus and the 5th using Whole sign. I just prefer to stay home :)
Lada, I also have PISCES in Saturn in the 11th! I know you mentioned Cap and Aquarius, but could my Taurus Rising assist in making money after 35, also? I mean, since it's sextiling Saturn?
Really enjoying this series !!! On an information mania… LOL The wife is in the 11th house of friendships .. I love being married……….Does Pluto play a major role in disruption and ability to achieve a desired level of happiness… ? :(
Dear Lada:) ..have to admit that through your vids and astrology, only a hobby for me, I am learning more and more every day. But I always find weird things..probably only to my ignorant eyes. I have sa, mars and ju in 11 "space" of your chart..all in virgo.. but there with 2 roman numbers, X and XI. Do i have to listen both vids about sa in X and XI house or only one? Plus from an other calculator the all 3 are in midhaven? Does it mean smtg? What a mess!! Anyway, tks again if u can help.
11th house cusp in 28° Libra with Pluto, Mercury, Sun and Saturn Stellium in Scorpio Sextile to Asc in Capricorn and living through my Saturn Return. And yes, saturn is a tough but wise teacher... what do you think?
Hiya Lada Im a taurus asc with saturn in the 11th house and everything you said was spot on! Im about to qualify as a mental health nurse in my 40's. I also have mercury in the the 11th house too what impact does this have please. Thank you
Shes good at this
Saturn 11th house in Taurus at 6 degrees
same here saturn in taurus in the 11th house, what should i know about this?
Hi lada i have saturn in my midheaven in the 10th house does this improve my finances after 30, or is it more about public recognition in terms of status and job postion with this placing? Thank you.
When if I got ♈️ ascendant and Saturn in 11th born at 8 am ?
what if saturn is in 11th in cancer. for virgo rising.. I heard sat in cancer is not good. Pls tell.
Hi, I have Conjunction Jupiter - Saturn in 11th house in Libra, can you tell me something about it?
Jupiter is asleep in Libra, so can't do much to help Saturn in the birth chart, but it might be in good dignity in the other divisional charts, so it can help in other areas of life
Lada Duncheva
Thank you.
Hi Lada, please answer me...if I have Saturn transit 11 house will I know secrets about the father? I wish if u can make series of Saturn transit thru houses...
Hi, I am not sure how the 11th might relates to secrets about the father.More likely a different transits is triggering this :)
Lada Duncheva I see...thank you dear!!!
This so true for me.
i have saturn in 11th house but am jupiter dominant...is it conflicting
Also...whats more important...planets sitting in 5th house or the same planets sitting with the 5th house lord. How do we see the difference in predictions relating to both conditions. Can you please explain with an example. Thank you.
I have a leo saturn in the 11 house
what if I have Taurus in both Saturn and Jupiter in the 11th house??
I would like to know the difference between
A planet actually sitting in a house..... from..... the same planet aspecting the house(in a different chart)....how will the interpretation change in both conditions?
Love u lada
What if you have both Saturn and Jupiter in the eleventh house?
In libra
I got jupiter in my 10 saturn inthe 11
I am so confuse in wester astrology I have saturn on 2nd house and in here i have it on 11
What if Saturn is in 11th H with Uranus and Neptune in there too?
hi lada im gemini n i have saturn and mars in my 11th house..can u pls tell me what is it???
I have both Saturn and Jupiter in 11th house how confusing
I have the same thing--Jupiter with Saturn--check out my video on Jupiter aspect Saturn, but the 11th house will surely be important with both social status planets there! It can start manifesting better after 35
Lada Duncheva what do you mean by 35? thanks for replying btw
moon and Saturn in 11th
Omg this is SO true..
LADA, Don't mind frankly speaking you are the sexiest astrologer I have ever seen. Is it for your being an Aries? 😁
hii lada.. i have saturn in my 11 th house in capricorn with 13.04*
how lucky am i?/??
Lada, I believe your chart calculator is false. There are multiple other calculators out there and this one is the only one who gives me a different reading.. are you sure the time zones are correct??
She uses campanus system
Hi, for Capricorn ascendant , Saturn in 11th house in scorpio , what u say about this ?
In my birth horoscope, Saturn is also placed in 11th house. Capricorn acsendent.with moon in Libra. Please comment.
how was your childhood? did you have any disease or surgery?
bone crack in childhood, what about income ? @@mattb.455
hi lada mam you r looking beautifull.
Strange I was on a spree of making friends in Saturn Antardasha and successfully so..I have Saturn in Aquarius 😂😂😂
are you leo? it seems. sorry, if I am not right.by the way..... you are looking very beautiful
I HATE SATURN
Why it doesn’t have roman numeral numbers
It is Normal ones now
Nyc
nothing good ever came
from the easy road..what's up lada
Hey, Lada.. I have saturn, neptune and uranus in the 11th house( Capricorn).How could this affect the 11th house? I have very selective friends and I prefer isolation.
I have the Saturn in Capricorn 11th house indicating pisces ascendent, I have no friends but I have huge acquaintance and people network