Singing Teacher Reacts - 소향 Sohyang🎤“I Have Nothing” (Live)
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2020
- Peter Vox, Director & Principal teacher at Vox Singing Academy has been a professional singing teacher since 1993. Peter gives his honest and in-depth singing vocal coach reaction to 소향 Sohyang - “I Have Nothing” (Live)
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She is not just a top Korean singer.. She is one of the best singers in the history of the world! She is not only a super singer but also is a cancer survivor. Her strong faith in Jesus overcomes every obstacles in her life and the love of God flows through her voice.
Yeak.......she has a worst trying hard cricket like voice ....no way
@@kelsan5633 What a poor man....
@@kelsan5633 You sound as if you are not only mean-spirited, but punitive,as well.
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소향을 좋아하지않는것을 존중합니다
그렇다해도 당신이 타인의 존경심과 좋아하는것을 파괴하지
마십시요
좋아하는 노래를 듣는것을
권유합니다
다른사람의 즐거움을 비난하는것은 옳바르지않습니다
귀뚜라미 라는 비유는 당신이 옳바른 표현력을 배우지못했다는
상징적인 의미입니다
@@kelsan5633 니네나라 가수가 더럽게 못부르는게 소향 때문은 아니잖아..? 남탓은 비열한거야 친구야
Never heard a better version of this song...ever. This is the best.
Jake Smith When it comes to screaming and off key low notes. Whitney's voice was way richer, deeper, more velvet and beautiful. She could scream even higher if she wanted and her live performance of ''I'm changing'' proves it.
Jake Smith Don't insult Whitney's memory and talent that way! What about that woman's off key low notes, her sharp high notes, her bad pronunciation, the fact that her voice lacks the richness, the depth, the velvety, the beauty that Houston had. By the way if you listen to Houston's ''I'm changing'' live performances you realize that she could sing even higher than this woman.
Jake Smith Her low notes are off key and her voice lacks the richness, the depth, the power, the beauty that Whitney possessed. Check out Houston's live performance of ''I'm changing'' since 1986, she could sing even higher than this woman.
The original is more pleasant to the ears. Exactly! Whitney's voice is richer, deeper, more velvet, more beautiful and she could sing just as high and even more. Check out her live performance since 1986 of ''I'm changing'' . It's amazing.
Seems the same Houston stan is repeating the same comment under different accounts. Such a lame attack. Almost as bad as Failipino stans.
this is from 2015, now she's on whole another level... you should check her songs from her 2020... you will be blown away....
Ok I will check her out in 2020. Thank you
Welcome to her world
she is korea top singer
She is one of the greatest singer in the world I've ever heard and seen. She is just amazing.
You mean world top singer?
@@gentleman4491 yeak.......no way....she is nothing....wasted trying voice...ugly...like a cricket
Worlds...
@@kelsan5633 Are you a Filipino? Cause, i saw a lot of Filipinos hating her.
Everytime she covers a song, she pretty much owns it, to the point she makes the original artists want to perform together with her. That’s what happened with this, which caught the attention of Oprah too, eventually leading David Foster himself, to do a concert together. The same happened with “You raise me up” and Josh Groaban, “In the flower garden” and Sumi jo, a grammy award winning opera singer, Michael Bolton and “lean on me”. Michael saw the performance firsthand as he was invited as the guest and called her a virtuoso and invited her to his tour later.
Its the combination of her mastery in arrangements and emotional interpretation alongside her impeccable vocals, is what makes it all possible.
Wow! Thank you for the valuable insights. Greetings from Australia
You should hear Whitney's ''I'm changing'' live performance, she could sing even higher and more powerful when she wanted but her voice was richer, deeper, more velvet. That woman has not a rich or velvet voice.
If Oprah told her that her low notes on that song are off key?
@@voxsingingacademy Check out Whitney's live performance since 1986 of ''I'm changing''. She could sing even higher than that woman whose voice lacks richness, depth, velvety, beauty.
What about her off key low notes?
Sohyang is my queen 👸
자야되는데...봐버렸다...😵
She is another level.
When it comes to screaming and off key low notes... Her voice lacks the richness, the power and the velvet that Whitney had at her prime.
When it comes to screaming and off key low notes.
@@deborahdimitrova8049 What you don't know is that Sohyang isn't in her prime when she sings this song either.
Sohyang is 1978.04.05.
It would be impossible to compare the live performance with the tuned studio music, right?
@@user-wt1yl8yh9l He was invited to David Foster's concert in Japan, Blue Note Tokyo from 30 November to 3 December 2018, where he performed a duet with Brian McKnight (102) and solo. Speaking about the reason for inviting Sohyang, David Foster said, "There is a singer who Oprah Winfrey is so amazing. He said, "I introduced him to me that I must watch this video, and I fell in love with Sohyang's I Have Nothing, which I first saw on RUclips, and I felt thrilled, so I searched for almost all of Sohyang's songs and asked him for a long time."
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Welcome to the world of SoHyang~!!!
She is CCM/GOSPEL SINGER of South KOREA and cancer survivor. .
She is one of the greatest vocalist in the world...But She wasn't known as well popular. .because She sing for GOD and Comfort people who has hardtime Not for fame or money. ..In her youth, she turned down all offers from mega agencies for her beliefs...and now she is 42years old. .She has so many legendary live performances . .
Welcome to Sohyang’s World!
She is another level.
She is an angel.
Thx 4 ur reaction ✌️
Evreyone.. next plz
아니 이 아자씨는 딱 러시아인처럼 생기셨는데
영어는 왤케 잘하는거야
썸네일보고 딱 그 특유의 러시아발음 생각하고 들어왔는데...
왠지 이름도 볼로스키, 야시노프 막이럴거같음....
Thx your reaction.😆
This performance is even not top 20 list for sohyang.
Sohyang is best female vocalist nowadays easily.
Hopefully enjoy her angelic voice.🤣
Yes she is amazing. I enjoy her singing very much
Not to mention her vocal techniques, how beautiful she is!!
Thank you for your reaction.
Welcome to the world of Sohyang.
She is one of the best in the world.
Please react.
1. Everyone: This is the most difficult song in her life, Sohyang said. This song is a total set of all the techniques.
2. Lean on me: This song was performed in front of Michael Bolton. After the performance, Michael Bolton said. Sohyang is on the level of a master. Sohyang said her wish is to do a duet with Michael Bolton here. Later, Michael Bolton invited Sohyang to his concert and performed a duet together. If you look at the video, you'll be able to see the incredible improvisation of Sohyang in the duet.
3. Bridge over troubled water: It's a song of full emotion that doesn't need words.
4. Arirang alone: A song that expresses Korean emotions well, a movie-like song, a song that hit B flat5 with chest sound, I recommend it.
5. I have nothing (Already): Another level!!
6. recently : Amazing Grace, I will always love you.
7. * Rap * : Day Day!!!!
She is dubbed Rey Skywalker as She is highly sensitive to the FORCE which She taps bigly into when She performs. The FORCE is truly strong with this ONE!
Beautiful soul, beautiful singing, to me she is a true Angel :D
Queen sohyang
It's just a tip of her masterpieces iceberg. Welcome to Sohyang's world, now you're on the first page of the book of a legendary vocal skills.
See you on the next page. Cheers^^
SoHyang is a master vocalist. She does what she does on purpose
She is probably.in her mid 30's here and is currently 42 years.of age. I have been following her for over a decade, and you are the first vocal coach to find fault with her. She is S. Korean, but can speak perfect english. She is the professor at her own music academy where she teaches singers. Her range is unreal. Recorded up to a A6, and her team.says her top note is a D7.
His critique is much more on Sohyang's stylistic choices rather than her technical fault although it touches on some aspects of technique. I am quite sure Sohyang is capable of doing it the way Peter wants her to do it so yes it is her judgement on the execution of some aspects of the song rather than her inability to use correct technique that is the central hallmark of the critique in this video.
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thank you for squashing any negative (unnecessary) retorts with logic ahead of time.
Sohyang love!!!
Wow....10k views in 24hrs with only 2k subscribers, that's impressive yet sad too! You definitely deserve more subscribers so I will subscribe to support you and our queen Sohyang. 💗
Thank you and much love and greetings from Australia.
The first small step has been taken. If you dig deeper, your soul could reach the next level. (smile)
A warm welcome to Sohyang world :)
Don’t know if she is the best vocalist ever, but I do know she is MY favorite singer EVER. Sohyang is where I go when I need a boast in life!
캬~ 오늘은 여기서 시작갑니다^^ 3시간 순삭이겠네요ㅎㅎ
Thank you for the reaction~
Welcome to Sohyang's world~^^
Queen Sohyang~😇🥰😍👑
welcome to sohyang world~
thanx~
welcome to sohyang world
Welcome sohyang world.....
Thank you for the reaction!!!!!
QUEEN SO HYANG👸👸👸👸!!!!!
More So Hyang please!!!!!
Welcome to SoHyang's world. :)
angel voice
What?!! Her English is perfecto!
Yes she is phenomenal. I hear her songs every day. She's a really, really amazing singer. Thanks for the reaction video.
So Hyang ✨❤️✨
so hyang--bridge over troubled water/i have nothing/o holy night/arirang alone/everyone/upon this rock/us national anthem/hero/power of love/let it go/breathe/hug me/amazing grace/i will always love
she is the best, no doubt
excellent, amazing
she is the Messi of Mmmusic
Thank you for watching and greetings from Australia. Stay safe.
Thank you for the reaction. Sohyang is a ccm/gospel singer and a world class vocalist. As far as technique is concerned she is one of the best (if not the best) according to dozens of vocal coaches/experts who have analysed her performances, which is why I was surprised with your critique of her technique. With all due respect, i doubt there is much you"d be able to teach her about vocal technique that she doesn't already know. I think it will become more apparent to you when you get to see more performances, as this song was easy for her. Best wishes.
Agreed with you
She is a Cancer survivor And still gets sick from Time to time. But is an Amazing Artist who gave up a Kpop career
to sing for the Lord and for the Love of Music instead of stardom. She learned English as a Child from Disney Movies,
which inspired her to Write two of her Books...(both Published and there are more).
Also And Publicly thanks Marey Carey for teaching her everything she Knows about Music ...
that is some Testament to The Power of Music
So Hyang said in a rare interview that she graced a RUclips vocal coach from Turkey (Emre Yucelen)
with that the most difficult song she ever performed is "Everyone" and her reason was sustaining her
breath .. among her fans Everyone is her her very best song but Arirang Alone with her Bb5 mixed
belt is her signature song .. in all honesty all her songs are amazing in their own right ...
She also has diversity in genre's aside from CCM and Ballads even Rock (Mona Lisa) and HipHop/Rap
(Day Day) from the original S. Korean show King of Masked Singer. Lastly she is also an Author of
Fantasy Novels.
Sohyang's the best.
One of the best female singers around. You should check out her other videos. You will be even more blown away🤯🤯🤯
Yes she's an amazing talent.
If she screams that way and her low notes are off key always? Her voice is so ordinary, it lacks richness, depth, velvety, beauty.
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so amazing~♡♡♡
정말 음악을 알고, 사랑하는 사람은 저런 미소가 나오나봐...너무 멋있다
beautiful! Soyhang, your voice is amazing. Thank you for reviewing this great singer!
welcome to SoHyang world😆
소향 노래 처음 들어보시는 보컬코치님
저에게는 외계인같이 느껴져서 신선하네요.
덕통사고영상
Hello ~ ^-^
Thank you for letting her know
I'm SoHyang's fan .. I am satisfied with your reaction today :D
I was shocked when I first saw this performance ^^
I'll look forward to the next video
You like screamers with off key low notes? By the way Whitney's voice was hundred times richer, deeper, more velvet and more beautiful.
I was shocked too. So many off key low notes and screaming with a voice that lacks richness, depth, velvety, beauty.
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6:16 Peter uses the phrase "towards the top of her range" after the first verse.
8:37 Sohyang shows him the real "towards the top of her range"
You probably won't be surprised to here that G5 is in fact in the sweet spot of her tessitura which is C5 to Bb5 in that unique heady mix that we perceive like an impossibly high chest belt. Fun fact - this arrangement of IHN starts in the key that Whitney ends in, and for a great bookend to this performance check out I Will Always Love You which was recorded with an acoustic arrangement in the original key where she concentrates on some really cool dynamics instead of just going full flamethrower mode as she did here.
Thank you for your insights. Yes, I wasn't expecting her to keep on going higher and higher and higher. She is amazing.
@@voxsingingacademy Higher singing doesn't mean better singing. That woman's low notes are off key and she can't hold a candle to Whitney's rich, deep. velvet, powerful and beautiful voice. And Houston could sing even higher and more powerful and you should listen to her 1986 performance of ''I'm changing'' to be sure.
@@voxsingingacademy Listen to Whitney's ''I'm changing'' live performance since 1986 to realize that she could sing even higher and more powerful than that woman whose voice lacks richness, depth, velvety, beauty. It is an insult to Houston's memory and talent to be compared with that woman. It's true.
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Sohyang is an amazing vocalist. Thanks for your reaction and analysis
Thank you so much 💓
I enjoyed your reaction ⚘
I recommend sohyang
I can only imagine,
Bridge over trouble water,
Home,
I will always love you,
If I Ain't Got You,
Stuck with you,
Arirang alone,
You raise me up,
Misty,
Everyone,
Mona risa(rock),
Lean on me,
I wont give up,
In the flower garden,
Amazing grace,
I always miss you(jazz),
You are the reason(sohyang&Greg)
Stay,
Wind song ,
Day day(rap)
So happy you found Sohyang !!! Please do Bridge over trouble water , everyone and you raise me up! Those are the top 3. They will make you laugh, cry and feel joy
Thank you & greetings from Australia!
she is an angel
truly hope you continue to check out more of so hyang's wonder--she really doesn't have a bad performance.
She is lovely and great singer, SoHyang.
Sohyang gives singing lessons just by singing. You HAD to FIND something to pick at her about because you are an EXPERT.
She is a Gospel and Pop singer. No strain or effort. Total breath control. She does ALL of her own arrangements - song, chorus, orchestra, staging, lights. costumes. She can sing anything, Gospel, Pop, Jazz, name it.
If you hear (see) other of her performances you will see that she is a flawless singer with unsurpassed control over her voice. if she does "something" it is because she intended to do it. She speaks three languages, writes novels and teaches music at a University.
But, you go ahead. I get it. Lots of singing teachers feel compelled to want to give Sohyang a singing lesson - enunciation, vowels, breathing, etc., out of arrogance . Or they have to pick at her out of jealousy, perhaps?
The rest of us just say WOW, go silent and try to catch a breath. That way we don't embarrass ourselves by wanting to give her suggestions. Just a word of advice.
She just screams and her voice lacks the richness, the depth, the velvety and the beauty that Whitney had and Houston could sing just as high and even more and her ''I'm changing'' live performance proves it.
By the way that woman's low notes are off key.
Her voice is so unpleasant to the ears, it lacks richness and velvety. And her low notes are off key often.
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This Australian male singing instructor doesn't understand the female voice like actual female singers and female coaches, who know that certain sounds must be modified when belting high notes. The smart ones (in other RUclips channels) explain why certain syllables or phonemes are adjusted to produce better sound in a high belt.
If Sohyang followed Peter's advice, she'd end up with an Australian accent which, for a singing voice, is odd like his.
I would not want her to mess with any of her pronounciations. She speaks English better than most native English speakers. Any of the very minor "imperfections" in her pronounciations helps remind us that she is Korean and how hard she worked at English and her vocals to pull off the greatest rendition of this song. That make it even more special.
There are so many good singers in this world, you know.....
Sohyang is an extraordinary singer. Her fantastic smile and soft & powerful voice make us feel eomotion and us weep from ours deep mind. Addicted to her automatically....^^ LOVE SOHYANG~~~^^♥
Soft voice? Is sharp and lacks richness, depth, velvety and her low notes are off key.
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선생님 감상하시다가 첫 고음파트에서 놀라서 유심히 보는 부분이 너무 재미있어요 ㅎㅎ 08:06 눈빛이 확 달라지심
Worldclass
In the highest notes of Whiney Huston's song, she belts up 3 keys very stable and sings from there...
I heard it, but I can't believe it.
I recommend sohyang 'lean on me' from immortal song2🥰🥰🥰love your channel
I like your reaction. Sohyang is a world class singer. Just listen to other coaches reactions to confirm this. By the way- I think her pronunciation is outstanding-not sure if she is fluent in English. I did not detect any accent. Whatsoever. A big fan of Sohyang Greetings from USA
So Hyang speaks very fluent English and when she sings she is perfect. She also has a perfect North American accent and taught herself how to speak English by watching movies when she was a kid. As far as anyone knows, she has only ever had two formal lessons, and they were very short, while she was on vacation in the US with Seth Riggs. I don't know how she does it, quite frankly. She is probably the most extraordinary woman I have ever come across.
Sohyang is the Queen and they say Dimash is the King. Great reaction. Mahalo & Aloha from Hawaii!
Thank you my
Hawaiian friends
다른 사람들처럼 듣다가 중간에 끊지 않고 끝까지 들어서 너무 좋아요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 표정으로 느껴지는..! 영상 잘 봤습니다!!!!!!
Thank you for reaction.
She is korean treasure!
To hear such an objective appraisal blended with appreciation for her gift was really refreshing. Quite enjoy your expertise.
Review EVERY Sohyang song you can find!! You will smile until your face hurts and cry occasionally, too.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
She is top of top👍
역시 소향💋💋💋
소향 어메이징.^^
월드베스트 소향. 한국가수 입니다.
Legend !!!! Queen !!!!!
전문가 리액션인데 이분 영상들 조회수가 너무 적네요.조회수 보장되는 소향컨텐츠로 조회수맛을 보셔야겠네요 ~^^
짱피하다 너같은애 소향만으로 좋은데 ~~~~~~ 좋은글만 적어라 ~~
@@user-lk6yn7rd3f 좋은글인데 이해를 못하시네요 ㅎㅎ
@@user-lk6yn7rd3f 얼마나 더 좋은 글을 달으라는건가 댓글의 의도도 이해도 못하고 지야말로 악플다노 연재 핵창피
@@user-lk6yn7rd3f 하하하~^^ 영상마다 오만칠천번을 소향님 보는 찐팬입니당
Perfect😍😍💕
Sohyang's diction is perfect and doesn't exhibit any foreign accent. She actually pronounces English better than most American and British singers. Since she belts and sings at the extremes, she does do vowel modifications for technical reasons; other vocal teachers and session singers have pointed this out. In her sequence of stressed words "Don't ... Make ... Me ... Close ... One", she starts off rounded and low, and then incrementally works her way to open and high for epic effect.
If you had worked on her singing, she'd sound like an Aussie, which lots of folks won't fully understand. Consider how so many listeners, say, of rock songs, get confused; they may hear key lyrics wrong, and enter into heated arguments as to what was sung vs intended.
Great!
Oh my goosebumps now Wow
Nice reaction...React her song you raise me up.... its amazing 😍😍😍😍
This is too easy for So Hyang! One of the best female vocalists in the world. The best " I have nothing cover" period.
moonpie How is easy if her low notes are off key and she screamed almost the whole song?
moonpie That woman just screams and her low notes are off key, her voice lacks the richness, the depth, the velvety that Whitney's had. Houston could sing just as high and powerful and even more and her ''I'm changing'' live performance since 1986 proves it.
moonpie Based on her off key low notes it's not so easy for her. By the way her voice lacks the richness, the velvet, the depth, the power, the expressivity that Houston possessed.
Based on her off key low notes definitely it's not easy for her.
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so hyang laon me ^^♡ reacts ~
I love your smile sir :) Thank you for reacting to one of my favorite singer in the world🙏
She has never been trained in classical music.
Her career is rooted in ccm/gospel music.
It's all that she has just received a few tips about how to blending voice(mixed voice) from Seth Riggs in the middle of her career.
That's what it is....voice from heaven. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Plsssss... react to so hyang- Bridge Over troubled Water!
So hyang is a Christian Gospel Singer! She's already in 40s.
40s! No way. She looks like early 20s.
@@voxsingingacademy She is 44 years old
@@zodiactauruss 42 but 43 in Korean culture.
@@ToddSauve Born 16 days before me :)
@@zodiactauruss So Hyang was born on April 5, 1978, so you were born on April 21, 1978!
She's KOREAN top singer
Most of the pronunciation you're noticing is actually a choice, she speaks fluent English :D.
you can read "so young" is so hyang
This is one of her many what i call "don't try this at home" performances! If you're a singer and you love it offcourse keep on singing and keep on trying to become a better singer. However don't set the bar too high cause this is not next level it's the grand master level! Very few if any today can reach Sohyang's level!
Everyone
React to her performance called "Everyone" the dynamics and ranges are crazy good ,plz react to it
Ty 4 great 🎧 2 our 👼🏻 (also the sound on ur new videos r awesome)❣️
So Hyang has mastered SLS technique (loved by Seth Riggs who uses her as example, although she studied w/ him a very, very short time). She lectures at university (is a professor) in Korea.
David Foster, said not since Whitney had he seen So Hyang’s level of vocal talent. He offered to sign her, but she declined due to her faith mission (& on-going health issues), so he settled on her joining him & Josh Groban on Asian leg of his 2018 tour.
So Hyang is 43, has gospel roots, independent, a devout Christian who sings 2 comfort those in hard times, (mission accomplished & she’s had many hard times...c her Wikipedia pg). She never sought fame... but it found her anyway.
Performance vocal coaches deem “perfection” is “Where are You” vimeo.com/254194327
Performance So Hyang said was most challenging (7 min of acrobats) & a fan Fav, is “Everyone” vimeo.com/249195615 (w/ English subs)
☝️4 you to check out, so no pressure / need 2 react☝️
✌🏼❤️ 2U
PS - Her English is “self taught” by listening 2 her idols as young girl (Whitney & Mariah)❣️
Thank you for taking the time to write. Much love and greetings from Australia.
Thank you for the reaction
literally the Voice of God. we called her.
Queen
For me - she is a legends singer in Korea, you should watch her sing 'Bridge over
troubles water" I want you to react "O Holy Night" Christmas almost here :))
I think her stage presence and acting comes from her many many years as a musical actress
Thank you for watching. Stay safe🙇🏻♂️
Welcome to So Hyang's undiscovered world dude... be prepared for your brain to explode
So Hyang's Best of the Best; please react:
You Raise Me Up (Immortal Songs 2)
Bridge Over Troubled Water
For Thousand Days performed with "The One"
Oh, Holy Night (2 versions, I am a Singer 2, and Classic Meets Carol)
Breathe (King of Masked Singers)
Hug Me
Do You Know (King of Masked Singer)
Home (King of Masked Singer)
Childish Adult (with JK. Kim Dongwuk)
I Will Always Love You (Begin Again Korea)
Thank you and greetings from Australia. I will wear a helmet so my brain doesn't explode. LOL
Jared Spackman That woman's low notes are off key, she screamed and her voice is not that rich, deep, velvet, beautiful like Whitney's who proved that could even higher and more powerful, check out her live performance of ''I'm changing''.
Jared If her low notes are always off key like on this song?
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She is just fantabulous and it is interesting to watch how you analyse compare to some other vocal coaches.
Thank you. Yes I have got my own thing going. I do not watch other reaction channels. Greetings from Melbourne Australia