Thank you for sharing this amazing project. Have one of these-no telling what life will leave in one’s path-and you are helping me get going on restoring it. It’s not nearly as bad as yours. Most gratefully, Dadla.
Today, an old couple handed me a beat up oud to try and fix. I am not a luthier. It is definitely another 'tourist oud' but I'm researching the possibilities. Thanks for your video.
We'll have to design, construct, and install a set of Humbucker's here, John!!!! Your angst, is our pleasure, can't wait for this series!! I've sent a link to one of the 'best in the States', Jerry @ Rosa String Works; (gotta give him ulcers, too!). That wood seems similar to a lot of "India-sourced" materials I've seen.
Now now Tim, let's not get ahead of ourselves :-). If this thing ever comes together then we're limited to nylon strings so the most you can expect is a piezo setup. I've been a fan of Jerry's for ages - since we both got a drone and a 3D printer to help keep the brain active I'm thinking great minds, etc......
Thanks for sharing this, friend. I'm about to get started attempting to repair an oud I was given some time back. I love in the desert and the top has severely dehydrated, causing it to sink and the action to be far too high. I decided to begin by trying to slowly rehydrate the instrument, but I'm expecting to have to do more to get the neck angle better. I'm terrified to try and remove the top!🤯
Unless the top has already become distorted and started to detach from the bowl I would not remove it. You may be able to resolve the action height by making adjustments to the bridge.
@@Zone1242 Thank you for the reply. This one doesn't have a separate bridge to the stop bar (probably not the right term). None of the joints have begun to separate and I agree about not removing the top of I don't have to. It also occurred to me that I may be able to remove the large center rosette if the top doesn't return to flat on after some time hydrating. I'd prefer to not need to shave down the stop bar either as the string holes are not high of the top.
Nice work. I think the soundboard is supposed to have a slight arch to it, just like in a lute or guitar, as it help counter act the strings from causing it to bowl downward.
The only book I could find on Oud construction made no reference to archinng the top as in guitar making so I left it flat as it was. Luckily it still plays well without any string buzzing.
A really interesting project John and it's already coming along nicely. I second the idea of using RSW for ideas. Can you track down the area where the instrument was made for clues about the woods used? There is always that phone number :-)
I have no illusions of getting this back together as it was originally. I've found various pieces of guitar wood - spruce, ebony, maple - that should help me get it sorted. Given the poor level of workmanship I've encountered, I expect my efforts to be somewhat tidier, to say the least. I think I've seen all Jerry's videos so with any luck some of his knowledge will rub off along the way....
The wood on top reminds me of straight grained Douglas Fir, or Hemlock, I'm not sure how far spread Doug Fir is but lots of acoustic guitars, and other instruments, are made out of it in my area of the world. Could it be a cyprus of some sort, it's obviously a soft wood or coniferous species?
I used some Spruce for the repair but I'm pretty sure the top itself is a different species. It has a noticeable smell once I got the finish off but I can't say for sure exactly what wood it is. At least the grain structure on the piece I used for the repair is fairly close to the original.
Thank you. Yes I learned quite quickly that this was not a 'serious' instrument. However, it was a good first opportunity for me to work on such an instrument and begin to learn. Cheers, John
Hi John, this morning I bought an oud for £20 in similar, if not slightly better condition than the one in this video. I'd love to restore it myself, I can already tell someone has replaced the bridge and such, but I've always been interested in luthiery and was wondering if you think this is too ambitious for a first time project? Many thanks
Hi Ben, if you have some basic woodworking skills then you should be fine. I'd recommend getting the same book I used - it was the only book on Oud repair I could find. If you've never done any woodworking then I'd recommend getting some basic tools and practicing on easier projects before tackling something like a musical instrument. I'll help any way I can. Cheers,
@@Zone1242 Thanks so much for the speedy reply! I have absolutely no experience beyond a little hand whittling, so yes perhaps this will be a future project
Yeah, that's what Jerry Rosa would call it for sure. It's got a few more strings (11) than a mandolin and a tricky headstock which added to the excitement! Cheers, John
Hi sir, I have a oud that needs to be fixed. I would like to send you the pictures and get your opinion on it if you could drop you email in the comment below!
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Thank you for sharing this amazing project. Have one of these-no telling what life will leave in one’s path-and you are helping me get going on restoring it. It’s not nearly as bad as yours. Most gratefully, Dadla.
Today, an old couple handed me a beat up oud to try and fix. I am not a luthier. It is definitely another 'tourist oud' but I'm researching the possibilities. Thanks for your video.
We'll have to design, construct, and install a set of Humbucker's here, John!!!! Your angst, is our pleasure, can't wait for this series!! I've sent a link to one of the 'best in the States', Jerry @ Rosa String Works; (gotta give him ulcers, too!). That wood seems similar to a lot of "India-sourced" materials I've seen.
Now now Tim, let's not get ahead of ourselves :-). If this thing ever comes together then we're limited to nylon strings so the most you can expect is a piezo setup. I've been a fan of Jerry's for ages - since we both got a drone and a 3D printer to help keep the brain active I'm thinking great minds, etc......
Thanks for sharing this, friend.
I'm about to get started attempting to repair an oud I was given some time back. I love in the desert and the top has severely dehydrated, causing it to sink and the action to be far too high.
I decided to begin by trying to slowly rehydrate the instrument, but I'm expecting to have to do more to get the neck angle better. I'm terrified to try and remove the top!🤯
Unless the top has already become distorted and started to detach from the bowl I would not remove it. You may be able to resolve the action height by making adjustments to the bridge.
@@Zone1242 Thank you for the reply. This one doesn't have a separate bridge to the stop bar (probably not the right term).
None of the joints have begun to separate and I agree about not removing the top of I don't have to.
It also occurred to me that I may be able to remove the large center rosette if the top doesn't return to flat on after some time hydrating.
I'd prefer to not need to shave down the stop bar either as the string holes are not high of the top.
Nice work. I think the soundboard is supposed to have a slight arch to it, just like in a lute or guitar, as it help counter act the strings from causing it to bowl downward.
The only book I could find on Oud construction made no reference to archinng the top as in guitar making so I left it flat as it was. Luckily it still plays well without any string buzzing.
This was very informational and interesting, thank you for documenting it up!
It was a very interesting project - I learned a lot about Oud construction along the way.
The label says it is made in Cairo (Egypt).
Hello John. I can't wait to see how you deal with this poor instrument. Has always I liked,Shared and added to Playlists.
All my best.
Bobby
Thanks, Bobby. Yeah, this is definitely uncharted territory for me. Still, should be fun!
Cheers, John
A really interesting project John and it's already coming along nicely. I second the idea of using RSW for ideas. Can you track down the area where the instrument was made for clues about the woods used? There is always that phone number :-)
I have no illusions of getting this back together as it was originally. I've found various pieces of guitar wood - spruce, ebony, maple - that should help me get it sorted. Given the poor level of workmanship I've encountered, I expect my efforts to be somewhat tidier, to say the least. I think I've seen all Jerry's videos so with any luck some of his knowledge will rub off along the way....
The wood on top reminds me of straight grained Douglas Fir, or Hemlock, I'm not sure how far spread Doug Fir is but lots of acoustic guitars, and other instruments, are made out of it in my area of the world. Could it be a cyprus of some sort, it's obviously a soft wood or coniferous species?
I used some Spruce for the repair but I'm pretty sure the top itself is a different species. It has a noticeable smell once I got the finish off but I can't say for sure exactly what wood it is. At least the grain structure on the piece I used for the repair is fairly close to the original.
This is what we would call a "tourist" oud.
Not meant to be played really 😊
Thank you. Yes I learned quite quickly that this was not a 'serious' instrument. However, it was a good first opportunity for me to work on such an instrument and begin to learn.
Cheers, John
@@Zone1242 well you did a marvelous jobb 👍
Hi John, this morning I bought an oud for £20 in similar, if not slightly better condition than the one in this video. I'd love to restore it myself, I can already tell someone has replaced the bridge and such, but I've always been interested in luthiery and was wondering if you think this is too ambitious for a first time project? Many thanks
Hi Ben, if you have some basic woodworking skills then you should be fine. I'd recommend getting the same book I used - it was the only book on Oud repair I could find. If you've never done any woodworking then I'd recommend getting some basic tools and practicing on easier projects before tackling something like a musical instrument. I'll help any way I can.
Cheers,
@@Zone1242 Thanks so much for the speedy reply! I have absolutely no experience beyond a little hand whittling, so yes perhaps this will be a future project
Ah, a potato beetle mandolin?
Yeah, that's what Jerry Rosa would call it for sure. It's got a few more strings (11) than a mandolin and a tricky headstock which added to the excitement!
Cheers, John
Hi sir, I have a oud that needs to be fixed. I would like to send you the pictures and get your opinion on it if you could drop you email in the comment below!
Hi, if you click on my channel name then click the 'about' tab it will take you to where you can see my email address.
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