i didn't hear about "mall grabbing" until i started doing youtube a few years ago. in my opinion, if you can skate then you skate and your skills will do the talking, not the way you hold your board. that being said, because it is such a wide spread thing, i totally fall in line and try to not mall grab... when anyone is watching.
maybe it's a Cali-thing, cuz I'd never heard of it until the internet-era, either, and I've been skating for 20+ years. But then I'm from Europe, where until relatively recently we didn't have American-style shopping malls, or poser kids to hang out and pose there with their brand-new skateboards for that matter. Kids who actually skate generally figure out soon enough that you need to hold your board griptape-out if you don't want to mess up your shirt or jacket.
+VLSkate yeah me either. I think I have a picture of me mall grabbing around 2005. I had no idea it was "bad" and I was really active on forums and stuff at the time
with the Quit Your Day Job video coming out i'd be interested to hear your opinion on girl skaters and if they should be held to the same standards as men or if they're "good for a girl"
Honestly, I think you hold that belief because there have been very few good female pros. However, you go and search around a bit on here, you will find some really good skaters who happen to be female. I recommend you don't cover this topic at least until you have a larger following.
I read that when surfing and skating were really close together, You had do carry your board the same way as you did in surfing, and you don't have trucks on a surfboard. So when somebody did it they would think they didn't surf and weren't cool.
I have a vivid memory of the first time I head about this, and it definitely wasn't referred to as a "mall grab." In 411's "911" video, the narrator/host Tim O'Connor made an offhand joke, saying something along the lines of "... don't hold your board by the trucks. It's like grabbing your friend by the balls." I haven't been able to find this clip again, but I swear it's in there somewhere. I have to say, the little jokey rules like no pressure flips, no hand tricks, no grabbing the board by the trucks, etc, are something I actually enjoy about skateboarding. I've never seen these rules as anything other than goofy jokes, and I believe that was their origin before more serious and dense skateboarders started taking them seriously. They're kind of like "The Rules" in cycling; they aren't enforceable, and they're really just suggestions that make fun of those who don't comply. The trouble comes from people who don't understand they are jokes.
I remember at least 5 or 6 years ago there was a print ad (mixed media piece with some Neckface art from what I remember) and it had a kid holding his board by the trucks with the phrase 'Mall Grab' written above it. It was the first time I ever saw the phrase. If I can track it down I will give some more details.
Wow man, I really feel like making a video now where I try to get all those 16 180 flips. It actually sounds like a lot of fun! Regular fs heel and switch heel will definitely be the hardest ones :P
So funny to me people would even care how you carry your board, Im almost 44 and never even heard of mall grab until recently and never heard anyone I ever knew since skating in the mid 80s care about how you carry your board. For those of you that care about crap like that, youde probably be a better skater if you were focused on skating and not spending your time worrying about the phony culture crap.
I originally begun skating in 1986 and quit it in 2000 - getting back to it slowly. I admit, I used to carry my board by the truck all the time earlier. I was actually surprised to hear that it is somehow a taboo now - that's how I carry my board still. I know I can't do anything anymore, so maybe I actually am a poser...but gsus, it has nothing to do with how I carry my board. :D
If you actually give a shit how you or anyone else carries your board you seriously need to get your priorities straight. Holy shit, how fucking petty people can be never ceases to amaze me.
I started skateboarding in 1984 and mall grab was already frowned upon. I don't know when I first heard it referred to as mall grab, but it was probably in the mid- to late-eighties. I used to carry my board that way and it would eventually shred the lower right side of my shirt. I figured that was why.
There's a Lowcard video called 'Mall Grab' and that's the first place I heard the term. Fun fact: there's local footage in the video (the rock to fakie in the tiny 'window' in the full-pipe - absolutely insane).
Never heard about this "mall grab". Just straight logically when you pick up a board, you will see that the truck can act like a handle. So you hold it like that. Only issue is if you have skated a heavily waxed ledge, be it street or park. Your truck will be filled with wax residue. Is that a big issue though? Probably not. I've carried the board whichever way was the most comfortable at any given moment. Why would anyone care? Why would I care if they cared? Do whatever you want to do! That is the heart of skateboarding. Trends and all that garbage comes and goes.
Opaque for me I stopped when I started ripping the sides of my shirt with the grip. I don’t think the wax residue was ever a thought but carrying graphic towards you prevents buying new shirts every few weeks. Not the end of the world to have holes in the side of my shirt but just a minor annoyance I personally wanted to prevent.
It would be cool to see a video on the transition from oldschool decks (80s) to modern ones! Loving the content man, always look forward to the uploads.
used to carry board griptape down to the side but it would wear out your t shirt. ( late 1980's) got used to carrying it rails down after that. you can hold it up against the shoulder too, while you're not skating. holding it by the truck gets uncomfortable real quick.
I always mall grabbed because based on how tall I was and how long my arms are, if I grabbed it by the end it kept dragging the ground. so when I grabbed it by the trucks I never had it drag the ground and scrape my edges up. I never knew until someone told me and I was like really? that's kinda stupid. and yes I do trick skating I usually carry it sideways now but every once in a while I mall,grab. I dont care much either way
In the 80s I don’t remember anyone getting wrapped up over holding the board. I will say I held mine by the rail, grip towards my body; I remember this because my step mom couldn’t understand why all my T-shirt’s were shredded on the side!
The reason why is because a switch fakie stance is a regular nollie stance. Think of where you would place your feet to perform a switch fakie ollie, thats just a nollie.
Would a switch fakie nollie just be regular stance? If you interpret fakie nollie to mean "nollie, but rolling backward" it would mean switch, and switch switch would be regular.
Here's a question for a video: when did people start riding such wide decks again? You know how cell phones started off huge, then in the 2000's they gradually got smaller and smaller (due to convenience), but now modern smartphones are getting bigger and bigger again (probably due to phones now having high-res touch screens)? Well the same thing seems to be happening to skateboards! Back in the 80's people rode decks that were over 8" wide. Then in the 90's decks were closer to 7". When I started skating around he same time you did - the early 2000's (I'm also 28), 7.5" was pretty much the standard board size. But I went to buy a new deck the other day (first new one in close to a decade) and I didn't realise how much wider boards have gotten! 8" seems to be the MINIMUM these days, with plenty of pros rocking 8.5" and 8.75" decks! What gives?! Even really "technical" guys like Shane O'Neill are rocking 8"+ decks.
Would love to see a video on the difference between Casper and Hospital flips, I did one myself not too long ago, would be nice to have someone agree with me on it! :)
scratched trucks on the palm is more comfy than grip on sore fingertips. it looks like you can't ride if you carry that way in a situation where you could be riding. its really comfy if carrying the board for a long time. by the nose if I'm about to throw it back down, mall if I'm gonna be holding, carrying or fighting with my board. never carried my skate under arm much that's for snow or surf boards, and grip scratches holes in your shit and the other side is dirty, that's my 45 yo comments
I remember when I was younger I would see older kids holding the deck at the top of the nose. I was pretty young so the board would touch the ground if I held it by the nose. Mall grabbing wasn't a thing but even as a child, I refused to hold my board by the trucks because I thought I looked stupid.
I started skating again n i was so surprised about people bagging people on how you carry your board, its sorta weird to me. Me n my skater friends use to wall grab all the time to defend ourselves because of people rolling people at the skateparks.
It's interesting how certain flip and spin variations can be easier or harder. I think it all depends on how solid you are with the fundamentals of those tricks. I think getting heelflips and kickflips in all 4 stances all really good would be a pre-requisite for doing them with an added 180. Getting the 180's down would then also really help as well and would also be a prerequisite. I think when I first learned to skate regular backside 180's was the first one I worked on. The first flipping trick I learned was definitely heelflips. I guess unsurprisingly when I then got back into skating years after my strongest initial flip and spin was the fake backside half cab heel. Makes sense. Then after learning it fakie I learned it regular. Back heel is generally easier fakie cuz you land regs, verses doing it regs and landing switch. My kickflips are good but not as good as consistent as my heels. This makes doing a backside 180 kickflip doable but not as clean as with the heelflip. I got my I got my regular frontside better, and now I can frontside flip fairly consistently BUT I've noticed that I tend to only be able to spin the board vertically, like a muska flip. Still counts as a frontside flip, but it's not as stylish because I'm more just allowing my front foot to get in the way to flip the board rather than really extending a nice flick. I can front heel, but it's quite a hard trick, sometimes it just comes out low to the ground and unimpressive looking, popping it high makes the chances of actually landing it much lower. In fakie backside kickflips are doable, as well as the fakie front heels. Could both use work. The one I find the most difficult would be the fakie frontside kickflip. In terms of switch and nollie the only one I've got is switch frontside kickflip, and nollie backside kickflip (which feel equivalent just reversed). Switch front and back heelflip - yeah right. Nollie front heel/kick, and nollie back heel - just no. Moral of the story is I still need to perfect switch and nollie kick and heelflips, as well as all the nollie and switch 180's. This will also help with learning switch varial kickflips, and improving switch tre flips.
Rodney Mullen is my all-time favorite skater for obvious reasons, as he is the real pioneer of street skating. Rad Rat, could you make a list of the ones which are, in your opinion, the top 5 best (most difficult) tricks made by Rodney? Keep it up with your videos, man. I love learning new things about skateboarding every day! :)
This might help: Do a ton of switch heels. Then go for switch heel bs pivot (some people might even call that a sw bs heel). Then gradually work your way towards more rotation in the air and less pivoting. If you turn more than half way before your front truck hits the ground, people will say it's a make. Everything else will be your own perfectionism.
No mall grabbing with my skateboard, but my longboard sure because it’s long and holding it by a truck allows you to wheel it along to wherever. Impractical to carry and they weigh a lot.
Interesting point about you made about the new street skaters wanting to be as different as possible from the vert guys. Do you think that could account for the total disregard for helmets in street skating?
Lol my friends use to tease kids back in like 08 for mall grabbing and that's only when I heard of it they were skating for like 6 years before me so I bet they used the term at least a couple years before I heard it.
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Mall-grabbing, I have no idea why people care so much, it's not detrimental to your skating unlike mongo-pushing. I don't know why people like Lamont Holt are so adamant against it as if it really meant something. One question I have for you is: should you hold your board with the grip toward you or facing away?? What is the common convention? I hold mine with grip toward me, it messes up my clothes sometimes, but I really wanna show off my graphic, that's why I bought it.
that makes sense if you don't care about the graphic, but I paint my own graphics usually and I want them to last. Or if I spotted a cool graphic that I will need to pay pro-model price for, I would want it to last as well. I usually only do truck grinds to try to preserve the graphic for as long as possible.
but you also can't throw your board down smoothly when you hold the deck by the side (unless you do a freestyle caveman type trick which nobody does), you also can't throw your board down smoothly when people grab just 1 wheel to avoid grabbing the truck, which is just idiotic.
I always thought it was lame but idk why. Even when I was 11 it felt dumb to me. I guess carrying the board by the nose or the middle seems more accessible to throw it down and start pushing.
I used to "mall grab" cause I felt it was more cordious, like if it wasnt attatched to my back pack I would try to avoid bumping into people and shit, which is easier if the lenght of the board goes the lenght of your legs and never really felt disconfort or like splintered myself witht he trucks, granted my hands skin looks liek an elephant's elbow
I apologize if this question has been asked but, What are your opinions on the evolution of skate shoes over the years? i.e. When I started skating in the early 90s my older brother got me my first pair of Converse Chuck Taylor's to skate in and then eventually getting me into my first pair of Vans. Then in middle school and high school years the bulkier skate shoes became more popular and now it seems most skaters have transitioned back to slimmer profile shoes. Do you have a preference and/or a favorite shoe? Over the years I would say my favorite pair would personally be the eS Koston 1s but I have since moved back to a slimmer style (switching back to Vans for now) but have entertained the idea of picking up one of the newer Adidas or New Balance styles.
That's a good question. I don't have much to say about shoes though. My preference was just whatever I could get on clearance, so I don't have a ton of experience to share.
I just wanted to say I bombed a hill the other day on my new suspension avenue trucks, n setup. this guy who must of saw me in a truck came next to me, told me it was rad 80 times as I walked up a different hill, n then pulled in his driveway.✌
There's no wrong way to hold a board, and no it doesn't matter at all. But I do notice when people hold their board by the truck. I suppose there is the implication that they may not skate ledges or rails or hubbas, or at least they're less likely to. Which isn't a big deal, it's simply something I notice. I also think that since skaters hold their board by the nose when they're about to throw down, it shows they have some level of comfort holding their board by the deck itself. If you don't throw down like this, then you'd probably feel more comfortable holding the board by the truck. Granted, mall grabbing is the easiest way to carry your board regardless of whether you're a pro skater or a non-skater.
We never carried our boards like that solely because the grip would rip apart your pants and shirts when you walked around. Coming from a family that never supported my passion/obsession and pure love for skateboarding, everything related to skating was left entirely up to me. I just felt that having to spend money on a new pair of Blind jeans or Fuct pants or whatever tshirts I had at the time because they ripped apart from walking around instead of skating was completely stupid. But that was just me. Never had a term for people who did it. Never really cared or thought twice about it. Just wanted to add my thoughts even though I know this is an old video/. Also sorry if someone already mentioned the same or similar reason. I admit I didnt read all the comments. *sigh*
kinda sucks that people at my school that skate call me out if I do this for a .5th of a second lmao keep in mind I skate too but I just feel that it's more comfortable
I dont care about how someone carries their board. . . But.i been skating about 27 -28 years , and it was definitely a thing in The early/ mid 90s. At least on the east coast, I heard it called malled grab.
I just heard about this within the last year or so.. this was never a thing when I was young. I understand the concept but at the same time if you're worried about how someone holds their board... lol. go away. another thing I notice is ppl complaining about this mall grabbing usually look like they've never hit somebody with a board before. that's my earliest memory of "mall grabbing"... check out Greco in 2G.
Holding your board from the truck was a perfectly normal way to carry it when you needed to. Like inside a mall, hence the name. The issue was that you were carrying your board instead of actually riding it (a poser). Then come the 90s and tiny hard wheels that don't even move on anything but a perfect surface. Carrying your board around becomes a necessity. As this was the only kind of skateboarding that the companies were promoting at the time, it's the only kind of skateboarding kids did and knew. There being something "wrong" about carrying your board became incomprehensible for the kids, and they misunderstood the joke from being about not riding your board to being about how you carry it. This misunderstanding becomes so ingrained in the culture that now even I'm embarrassed to hold my board that way, despite happily doing so for 20+ years back in the day. Which is embarrassing by itself. Sometimes you just can't win.
I mall grab, I hold my board by the side also. makes no difference to me. and when don't holding my board, I have a back pack with straps designed to hold a board
When i was 15 I cared about how I looked, but now I'm 30 and i think its just snobbery and way to alienate people in the skate community by thinking youre 'cooler' because ypu hold your board differently. I mean i tend not to mall grab out of habbit now as Iv been skating for 15 years but i think its sad that kids poke fun and laugh at other people
Being that way about it is like being against skateboarding. Oh I do so many grinds so I can't possibly hold my board with other shit in my hand cause it's under comfortable. Bailing is uncom f ortable you have to break bones to get better. If you got a cast on and are skating with it. That's a skater. People get do elite. Fucking kids
I don't do it because I grabbed my trucks like that once and the screws cut my fingers, and it looks like youre holding a shopping bag. honestly it doesn't matter but,,, fuck mall grabs xD
Inspired from the nine club podcast that had Frank Gerwer as a guest i wanted to ask u: what odd stuff did skaters do to perform better back in the days? i am 24yo and have been skating more or less all my life but i had never heard of these things :D u are the only one that i thought i could ask this. love ur vids thanks for skate nerding! cheers from Finland www.skateone.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/1213/odd-things-we-did-to-our-boards-to-help-us ruclips.net/video/hNxiugHo8vI/видео.html
Mall grab has been a thing sense I was 15 I'm gonna be 28 now, if you don't know what a mall grab is you probably grab mall. It's like pushing mongo it looks silly and please do a vid on razor tail if you are gonna cover the don'ts of skating. tuck that knee and boost that shit
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i didn't hear about "mall grabbing" until i started doing youtube a few years ago. in my opinion, if you can skate then you skate and your skills will do the talking, not the way you hold your board. that being said, because it is such a wide spread thing, i totally fall in line and try to not mall grab... when anyone is watching.
VLSkate you watch this channel? Cool I watch yours👌
maybe it's a Cali-thing, cuz I'd never heard of it until the internet-era, either, and I've been skating for 20+ years. But then I'm from Europe, where until relatively recently we didn't have American-style shopping malls, or poser kids to hang out and pose there with their brand-new skateboards for that matter. Kids who actually skate generally figure out soon enough that you need to hold your board griptape-out if you don't want to mess up your shirt or jacket.
+VLSkate yeah me either. I think I have a picture of me mall grabbing around 2005. I had no idea it was "bad" and I was really active on forums and stuff at the time
I mall grab. Never know when I need to use my board as a weapon
Your channel is sick my friend. Even told a few friends to check it out. Keep it going!
Skatin' and malgrabbin' since 2002. Never had an issue with jagged metal :)
with the Quit Your Day Job video coming out i'd be interested to hear your opinion on girl skaters and if they should be held to the same standards as men or if they're "good for a girl"
+VLSkate Oh boy. You're gonna get me in trouble with that one
Honestly, I think you hold that belief because there have been very few good female pros. However, you go and search around a bit on here, you will find some really good skaters who happen to be female. I recommend you don't cover this topic at least until you have a larger following.
I read that when surfing and skating were really close together, You had do carry your board the same way as you did in surfing, and you don't have trucks on a surfboard. So when somebody did it they would think they didn't surf and weren't cool.
Never heard that before! Interesting thought
The only thing I notice is mongo pushing because it looks awful
Dayn McClenahan hella awful
LOL@ "you're probably trash"
Why?
I have a vivid memory of the first time I head about this, and it definitely wasn't referred to as a "mall grab." In 411's "911" video, the narrator/host Tim O'Connor made an offhand joke, saying something along the lines of "... don't hold your board by the trucks. It's like grabbing your friend by the balls." I haven't been able to find this clip again, but I swear it's in there somewhere. I have to say, the little jokey rules like no pressure flips, no hand tricks, no grabbing the board by the trucks, etc, are something I actually enjoy about skateboarding. I've never seen these rules as anything other than goofy jokes, and I believe that was their origin before more serious and dense skateboarders started taking them seriously. They're kind of like "The Rules" in cycling; they aren't enforceable, and they're really just suggestions that make fun of those who don't comply. The trouble comes from people who don't understand they are jokes.
😁 0:13 is my fav part. Hope you get your switch bs-heels one day.
Hx. Williams ahaha hiiii
I remember at least 5 or 6 years ago there was a print ad (mixed media piece with some Neckface art from what I remember) and it had a kid holding his board by the trucks with the phrase 'Mall Grab' written above it. It was the first time I ever saw the phrase. If I can track it down I will give some more details.
In this day and age, I don't care and nobody should too.
Wow man, I really feel like making a video now where I try to get all those 16 180 flips. It actually sounds like a lot of fun! Regular fs heel and switch heel will definitely be the hardest ones :P
+Nightspeeds Good luck! It's a fun challenge
Nightspeeds for me it would be a while to get switch backside heel and switch frontside heel.
Did ya do it yet? If you do, I'll sub.
So funny to me people would even care how you carry your board, Im almost 44 and never even heard of mall grab until recently and never heard anyone I ever knew since skating in the mid 80s care about how you carry your board. For those of you that care about crap like that, youde probably be a better skater if you were focused on skating and not spending your time worrying about the phony culture crap.
I originally begun skating in 1986 and quit it in 2000 - getting back to it slowly. I admit, I used to carry my board by the truck all the time earlier. I was actually surprised to hear that it is somehow a taboo now - that's how I carry my board still. I know I can't do anything anymore, so maybe I actually am a poser...but gsus, it has nothing to do with how I carry my board. :D
I always thought it was "maul grab" because it's a good way to use it as a blunt weapon. :D
This makes leagues more sense than the elitist nature of the "mall grab" being a fashion faux pas.
If you actually give a shit how you or anyone else carries your board you seriously need to get your priorities straight. Holy shit, how fucking petty people can be never ceases to amaze me.
It's a trip seeing emojis in your title! I think watching your videos and how you've changed over time is so fascinating. Keep being the Raddest Rat!
I started skateboarding in 1984 and mall grab was already frowned upon. I don't know when I first heard it referred to as mall grab, but it was probably in the mid- to late-eighties. I used to carry my board that way and it would eventually shred the lower right side of my shirt. I figured that was why.
Due to gravity: The best way to hold/carry it is horizontally right on the center with the wheels out.
There's a Lowcard video called 'Mall Grab' and that's the first place I heard the term. Fun fact: there's local footage in the video (the rock to fakie in the tiny 'window' in the full-pipe - absolutely insane).
Never heard about this "mall grab". Just straight logically when you pick up a board, you will see that the truck can act like a handle. So you hold it like that. Only issue is if you have skated a heavily waxed ledge, be it street or park. Your truck will be filled with wax residue. Is that a big issue though? Probably not. I've carried the board whichever way was the most comfortable at any given moment. Why would anyone care? Why would I care if they cared?
Do whatever you want to do! That is the heart of skateboarding. Trends and all that garbage comes and goes.
Opaque for me I stopped when I started ripping the sides of my shirt with the grip. I don’t think the wax residue was ever a thought but carrying graphic towards you prevents buying new shirts every few weeks. Not the end of the world to have holes in the side of my shirt but just a minor annoyance I personally wanted to prevent.
It would be cool to see a video on the transition from oldschool decks (80s) to modern ones! Loving the content man, always look forward to the uploads.
A few people have asked about it. I'll have to do something about that soon! thanks for the suggestion
I don't know why but remember the term coming out when the movie "Mallrats" came out with Jason Lee in it about that time, mid to late 90s
I've been skating since 1987 and I've never heard of mall grabbing. It doesn't matter how you carry your board it's irrelevant
used to carry board griptape down to the side but it would wear out your t shirt. ( late 1980's) got used to carrying it rails down after that. you can hold it up against the shoulder too, while you're not skating. holding it by the truck gets uncomfortable real quick.
This happens with kids who have penny boards
I always mall grabbed because based on how tall I was and how long my arms are, if I grabbed it by the end it kept dragging the ground. so when I grabbed it by the trucks I never had it drag the ground and scrape my edges up. I never knew until someone told me and I was like really? that's kinda stupid. and yes I do trick skating
I usually carry it sideways now but every once in a while I mall,grab. I dont care much either way
In the 80s I don’t remember anyone getting wrapped up over holding the board. I will say I held mine by the rail, grip towards my body; I remember this because my step mom couldn’t understand why all my T-shirt’s were shredded on the side!
When you do a switch backside heel, pretend you are standing still and do a "nollie" inward heel and body varial with it
why can't you do a switch fakie nollie?
lol
The reason why is because a switch fakie stance is a regular nollie stance. Think of where you would place your feet to perform a switch fakie ollie, thats just a nollie.
fakie is when youre rolling back wards so you're all wrong
ThunBeast switch fake is nollie...
Would a switch fakie nollie just be regular stance? If you interpret fakie nollie to mean "nollie, but rolling backward" it would mean switch, and switch switch would be regular.
Here's a question for a video: when did people start riding such wide decks again? You know how cell phones started off huge, then in the 2000's they gradually got smaller and smaller (due to convenience), but now modern smartphones are getting bigger and bigger again (probably due to phones now having high-res touch screens)? Well the same thing seems to be happening to skateboards! Back in the 80's people rode decks that were over 8" wide. Then in the 90's decks were closer to 7". When I started skating around he same time you did - the early 2000's (I'm also 28), 7.5" was pretty much the standard board size. But I went to buy a new deck the other day (first new one in close to a decade) and I didn't realise how much wider boards have gotten! 8" seems to be the MINIMUM these days, with plenty of pros rocking 8.5" and 8.75" decks! What gives?! Even really "technical" guys like Shane O'Neill are rocking 8"+ decks.
That's a good question. I'll see if I can dig up any interesting numbers on that
I assumed the rise of mall grab hate was a reaction to the rise of shops like zumies, etc
I've been to demos and sessions back in the 80s where you would hold your board like that when not riding so it couldn't easily be jacked from you.
Awesome! thank you for answering, i had always wondered how it got the name and why it was hated on! great videos i love your channel!
Would love to see a video on the difference between Casper and Hospital flips, I did one myself not too long ago, would be nice to have someone agree with me on it! :)
+Nathsk8123456 check back next week!
scratched trucks on the palm is more comfy than grip on sore fingertips. it looks like you can't ride if you carry that way in a situation where you could be riding. its really comfy if carrying the board for a long time. by the nose if I'm about to throw it back down, mall if I'm gonna be holding, carrying or fighting with my board. never carried my skate under arm much that's for snow or surf boards, and grip scratches holes in your shit and the other side is dirty, that's my 45 yo comments
I remember when I was younger I would see older kids holding the deck at the top of the nose. I was pretty young so the board would touch the ground if I held it by the nose. Mall grabbing wasn't a thing but even as a child, I refused to hold my board by the trucks because I thought I looked stupid.
I started skating again n i was so surprised about people bagging people on how you carry your board, its sorta weird to me. Me n my skater friends use to wall grab all the time to defend ourselves because of people rolling people at the skateparks.
It's interesting how certain flip and spin variations can be easier or harder. I think it all depends on how solid you are with the fundamentals of those tricks. I think getting heelflips and kickflips in all 4 stances all really good would be a pre-requisite for doing them with an added 180. Getting the 180's down would then also really help as well and would also be a prerequisite. I think when I first learned to skate regular backside 180's was the first one I worked on. The first flipping trick I learned was definitely heelflips. I guess unsurprisingly when I then got back into skating years after my strongest initial flip and spin was the fake backside half cab heel. Makes sense. Then after learning it fakie I learned it regular. Back heel is generally easier fakie cuz you land regs, verses doing it regs and landing switch. My kickflips are good but not as good as consistent as my heels. This makes doing a backside 180 kickflip doable but not as clean as with the heelflip. I got my I got my regular frontside better, and now I can frontside flip fairly consistently BUT I've noticed that I tend to only be able to spin the board vertically, like a muska flip. Still counts as a frontside flip, but it's not as stylish because I'm more just allowing my front foot to get in the way to flip the board rather than really extending a nice flick. I can front heel, but it's quite a hard trick, sometimes it just comes out low to the ground and unimpressive looking, popping it high makes the chances of actually landing it much lower. In fakie backside kickflips are doable, as well as the fakie front heels. Could both use work. The one I find the most difficult would be the fakie frontside kickflip. In terms of switch and nollie the only one I've got is switch frontside kickflip, and nollie backside kickflip (which feel equivalent just reversed). Switch front and back heelflip - yeah right. Nollie front heel/kick, and nollie back heel - just no. Moral of the story is I still need to perfect switch and nollie kick and heelflips, as well as all the nollie and switch 180's. This will also help with learning switch varial kickflips, and improving switch tre flips.
Rodney Mullen is my all-time favorite skater for obvious reasons, as he is the real pioneer of street skating. Rad Rat, could you make a list of the ones which are, in your opinion, the top 5 best (most difficult) tricks made by Rodney?
Keep it up with your videos, man. I love learning new things about skateboarding every day! :)
Good question! I'll see what I can come up with
I think I heard about mallgrabbing in thrasher maybe like 11 or 12 years ago... it was in one of those letters to the editor.
This might help: Do a ton of switch heels. Then go for switch heel bs pivot (some people might even call that a sw bs heel). Then gradually work your way towards more rotation in the air and less pivoting. If you turn more than half way before your front truck hits the ground, people will say it's a make. Everything else will be your own perfectionism.
Thanks. I'll have to try some more in the future. Switch heels were never really my thing
No mall grabbing with my skateboard, but my longboard sure because it’s long and holding it by a truck allows you to wheel it along to wherever. Impractical to carry and they weigh a lot.
Interesting point about you made about the new street skaters wanting to be as different as possible from the vert guys. Do you think that could account for the total disregard for helmets in street skating?
Lol my friends use to tease kids back in like 08 for mall grabbing and that's only when I heard of it they were skating for like 6 years before me so I bet they used the term at least a couple years before I heard it.
Great video- I mall the grab all the time and DGAF!
I never heard of mall grab till like a few weeks ago
You should release a video of you just skating every month! You're so humble about it but I would love to see a few lines.
Mall grabs are the best way to ‘lax (relax) and flash graphs (show your deck’s graphics) to your mall crews (homeboys). International News representin’ (we endorse this stylish brand).
The character selection menu for American Wasteland they mall grab.
Carrying it by the truck makes it harder to run and jump on vs. Holding the nose
Mall-grabbing, I have no idea why people care so much, it's not detrimental to your skating unlike mongo-pushing. I don't know why people like Lamont Holt are so adamant against it as if it really meant something. One question I have for you is: should you hold your board with the grip toward you or facing away?? What is the common convention? I hold mine with grip toward me, it messes up my clothes sometimes, but I really wanna show off my graphic, that's why I bought it.
that makes sense if you don't care about the graphic, but I paint my own graphics usually and I want them to last. Or if I spotted a cool graphic that I will need to pay pro-model price for, I would want it to last as well. I usually only do truck grinds to try to preserve the graphic for as long as possible.
chimyshark well you can't really smoothly throw your board down to ride it while holding it like that. I think that's a part of it
but you also can't throw your board down smoothly when you hold the deck by the side (unless you do a freestyle caveman type trick which nobody does), you also can't throw your board down smoothly when people grab just 1 wheel to avoid grabbing the truck, which is just idiotic.
it was definitely a thing many years ago, it was called out in 06 or there abouts (I'm in Sydney though so it's definitely geography based)
I carry my board by the trucks and sideways. I don't do any grind tricks though.
It hurts your arm more carrying it like that too.
I always thought it was lame but idk why. Even when I was 11 it felt dumb to me. I guess carrying the board by the nose or the middle seems more accessible to throw it down and start pushing.
why is it so popular to catch 360 flips with an exaggerated front foot? and when did this trend start?
I used to "mall grab" cause I felt it was more cordious, like if it wasnt attatched to my back pack I would try to avoid bumping into people and shit, which is easier if the lenght of the board goes the lenght of your legs and never really felt disconfort or like splintered myself witht he trucks, granted my hands skin looks liek an elephant's elbow
What about pressure flips? Disappeared completely right? That time was pretty weird :(
+ChinasdeNewYork I've got a video about those next week!
I apologize if this question has been asked but, What are your opinions on the evolution of skate shoes over the years? i.e. When I started skating in the early 90s my older brother got me my first pair of Converse Chuck Taylor's to skate in and then eventually getting me into my first pair of Vans. Then in middle school and high school years the bulkier skate shoes became more popular and now it seems most skaters have transitioned back to slimmer profile shoes. Do you have a preference and/or a favorite shoe? Over the years I would say my favorite pair would personally be the eS Koston 1s but I have since moved back to a slimmer style (switching back to Vans for now) but have entertained the idea of picking up one of the newer Adidas or New Balance styles.
That's a good question. I don't have much to say about shoes though. My preference was just whatever I could get on clearance, so I don't have a ton of experience to share.
I just wanted to say I bombed a hill the other day on my new suspension avenue trucks, n setup. this guy who must of saw me in a truck came next to me, told me it was rad 80 times as I walked up a different hill, n then pulled in his driveway.✌
There's no wrong way to hold a board, and no it doesn't matter at all. But I do notice when people hold their board by the truck. I suppose there is the implication that they may not skate ledges or rails or hubbas, or at least they're less likely to. Which isn't a big deal, it's simply something I notice. I also think that since skaters hold their board by the nose when they're about to throw down, it shows they have some level of comfort holding their board by the deck itself. If you don't throw down like this, then you'd probably feel more comfortable holding the board by the truck. Granted, mall grabbing is the easiest way to carry your board regardless of whether you're a pro skater or a non-skater.
wow 2k views soon! Good Stuff!
Holding your board on its side... griptape in or griptape out? I hold it griptape out
Tom Belfort I'd say griptape out so it doesn't scrape against your clothes
Hey man can you talk about mongo pushing whilst in switch stance? Thanks dude, good vid!
I talk about it a bit in Ask Rad Rat 17!
+Rad Rat Video ok cool my bad
is it ok to mall grab if you’re a longboarder? there’s no way in hell i’m grabbing the nose as the board is really long lmao
Do you think rivals should be a thing now like it was in the 80s? (ex:Hawk/Hosoi)
Skateboarding is expressive...do YOU..who cates if people think it's not cool..enjoy the journey
damn switch back heals were the easiest for me
New to me this year also
mall grab if it feels right. just remember to skate
We never carried our boards like that solely because the grip would rip apart your pants and shirts when you walked around. Coming from a family that never supported my passion/obsession and pure love for skateboarding, everything related to skating was left entirely up to me. I just felt that having to spend money on a new pair of Blind jeans or Fuct pants or whatever tshirts I had at the time because they ripped apart from walking around instead of skating was completely stupid. But that was just me. Never had a term for people who did it. Never really cared or thought twice about it. Just wanted to add my thoughts even though I know this is an old video/. Also sorry if someone already mentioned the same or similar reason. I admit I didnt read all the comments. *sigh*
kinda sucks that people at my school that skate call me out if I do this for a .5th of a second lmao keep in mind I skate too but I just feel that it's more comfortable
Where we live we call it Paul mall grabbing ,because poser smoke a lot of Paul malls here.
It’s pall mall🤷🏻♂️
Origin of the terms Regular, Goofy, and Fakie? I've done a little bit of research but it appears to be hazy, maybe you know something I don't.
I'm putting together something about it now!
Uhh i alwats carried mine by the truck back in the day and never heard anything about it.
anyone that cares about how someone holds the board should spend more time skating and less time worrying about stupid stuff.
I dont care about how someone carries their board. . . But.i been skating about 27 -28 years , and it was definitely a thing in The early/ mid 90s. At least on the east coast, I heard it called malled grab.
At what point did vert die?
I just heard about this within the last year or so.. this was never a thing when I was young. I understand the concept but at the same time if you're worried about how someone holds their board... lol. go away. another thing I notice is ppl complaining about this mall grabbing usually look like they've never hit somebody with a board before. that's my earliest memory of "mall grabbing"... check out Greco in 2G.
Holding your board from the truck was a perfectly normal way to carry it when you needed to. Like inside a mall, hence the name. The issue was that you were carrying your board instead of actually riding it (a poser).
Then come the 90s and tiny hard wheels that don't even move on anything but a perfect surface. Carrying your board around becomes a necessity.
As this was the only kind of skateboarding that the companies were promoting at the time, it's the only kind of skateboarding kids did and knew.
There being something "wrong" about carrying your board became incomprehensible for the kids, and they misunderstood the joke from being about not riding your board to being about how you carry it.
This misunderstanding becomes so ingrained in the culture that now even I'm embarrassed to hold my board that way, despite happily doing so for 20+ years back in the day. Which is embarrassing by itself. Sometimes you just can't win.
switch BS Heelz are damn eZ, im doing it every time in Thug Pro 😁💙
nice vid like allwayz but whatz up with that smile in the title?😕
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Rad Rat Video☺
What's the best first trick to learn?
Number one priority is learning how to ride, push and turn. Get comfortable on the board. Then try ollies.
I mall grab, I hold my board by the side also. makes no difference to me. and when don't holding my board, I have a back pack with straps designed to hold a board
I carry my board by the truck all the time...skateboarders can be so petty
People that go out of their way to avoid picking up the board by the trucks for even a split second are posers.
Sometimed I mall grab and I feel bad about it
I mall grab and skate for transportation 20 years. Does it matter what people think, no.
ninjalifestyle has a switch back heel trick tip
Thanks for the heads up
When I see someone who mall grabs I take a look at how they ride. 99% of the time, they are awful
When i was 15 I cared about how I looked, but now I'm 30 and i think its just snobbery and way to alienate people in the skate community by thinking youre 'cooler' because ypu hold your board differently. I mean i tend not to mall grab out of habbit now as Iv been skating for 15 years but i think its sad that kids poke fun and laugh at other people
Being that way about it is like being against skateboarding. Oh I do so many grinds so I can't possibly hold my board with other shit in my hand cause it's under comfortable. Bailing is uncom f ortable you have to break bones to get better. If you got a cast on and are skating with it. That's a skater. People get do elite. Fucking kids
i didnt held my board, keep it rolling through literary anything
Why aren't salad grinds popular?
I wish I could answer that, but I don't really know!
I don't do it because I grabbed my trucks like that once and the screws cut my fingers, and it looks like youre holding a shopping bag. honestly it doesn't matter but,,, fuck mall grabs xD
25 views yay
I'm the person mall grabbing on purpose to fuck with people.
Inspired from the nine club podcast that had Frank Gerwer as a guest i wanted to ask u: what odd stuff did skaters do to perform better back in the days? i am 24yo and have been skating more or less all my life but i had never heard of these things :D u are the only one that i thought i could ask this. love ur vids thanks for skate nerding! cheers from Finland
www.skateone.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/1213/odd-things-we-did-to-our-boards-to-help-us
ruclips.net/video/hNxiugHo8vI/видео.html
Thanks for the question! I haven't seen that episode yet but I'll check it out and see what I can come up with
Rad Rat Video awesome thanks!
every skater knows, trucks are much more dirty than grip tape is. Hate grease hands
I have to say... My trucks are waxy and gross... I prefer not to grab the trucks.
It kinda matters I've seen longboarders mongo push and mall grab and it just makes me cringe
Mall grab has been a thing sense I was 15 I'm gonna be 28 now, if you don't know what a mall grab is you probably grab mall. It's like pushing mongo it looks silly and please do a vid on razor tail if you are gonna cover the don'ts of skating. tuck that knee and boost that shit