@@VINCUBEI can confirm that Speed Cube Shop has run through its stock of the old version and is now sending out the new improved version. My box had circles instead of checkmarks on it as said above.
Whether it was intended for the public or not, I have to say I also respect the designer's no-nonsense response to being pressed about the product's issues, just laid it out exactly how it was.
I don’t understand how you would know our approach was not so diplomatic. I was extremely respectful given what happened. The context is they sold us hundreds of defective products and risked disappointing our customers. We also spent time and resources making a review that we had to scrap. My question was about an uncomfortable topic but it had to be asked. It was asked respectfully. Their answer was fantastic and mature. They did well considering what happened.
@@asmallkitten In hindsight I was out of line here, my bad. Edit: When I said "diplomatically," I meant it more in a negative sense, as in pussyfooting around so as to not offend anyone, as opposed to being very straightforward as you were in this case. I don't think that's a mischaracterization at all now that I think about it, but I didn't realize that the way I put it could mean something very differently entirely. Either way, I obviously don't know the full nature of your correspondence, so I just shouldn't have assumed at all.
The MGC, Aosu and Vin actually appear have different design concepts. The deeper domain of the mech are pretty similar, all have double anchors which is a feature since 2014 Aosu, but the shallow domains nearer the corner heads are where the cubes defer very signifcantly. The Aosu has a Weilong mech where the 2nd layer sticks into the first layer, and from past experience, this seems to be better for corner cutting. The MGC has a similar design concept to multiple cubes from the Yuxin little magic series where the cut lines of a third anchor (or stepped design that Phil pointed out) are visible on the edges and centers but trimmed away from the corners, creating some empty space and a lighter and airer feel. The Vin has an RS3 mech where there is a square tip on the centers, but the corners are hollowed out at the same height at the square tip. The square tip makes the cube more stable, but the reverse corner cutting is not compromised due to that specific part of the corner being hollow and giving nothing for the center to catch on. I personally think this is a super smart way to make the most of reverse corner cutting and avoid the negative consequences of rounding or squaring the pieces too much. I made a full video and a short where I compare the Vin and Aosu more clearly. Dislike the act of self promo but seeing the differences visually is better than that huge wall of text.
I 100% agree that it feels similar to the MGC and it definitely has a lot of the same strengths, but I personally feel the VIN is more flexible and I find myself catching a bit because of that. Regardless though, it’s definitely my backup main now.
My vin cube came pre-lubed. Though it’s not the end of the world, it was less desirable in this case due to there actually being way too much lube so I cleaned it out and re lubed it before using it. It’s a nice cube, I never liked the Mgc and my aosu was starting to destroy itself after 2 years of use so it’s nice to see a new release for 4x4 after a while.
Maybe I got the original version last week but I immediately returned mine in favor of my mgc. Despite tensioning and lube it felt sluggish and didn't feel like it had any magnets the finish was very dull not as shiny as my mgc. If there is a newer improved version I'd be happy to try again
so are the bad cubes all removed from the shelves and if I order from thecubicle will be be the new improved version? there's nothing on the website description that says it's the new improved version
i havent watched the video but im glad you made a review on this cube i got one myself and its very smooth and performs very well, even though it lacks a bit of inner layer corner cutting imo (probably a skill issue in my part though cause i havent tried any other flagship 4x4s) also the unboxing experience is among the best of any 4x4, and when you start turning it makes up for it (except it comes very loose and wet with lube so youre definitely gonna need a screwdriver and something to wipe the lube off the surface)
@@dontflyspirit6535 none, i got mine on picubeshop cause it released earlier, but i prefer the cubicle as an overall cube shop also if youre getting one yourself i recommend a fast and dry set up, but thats my preference
@@dontflyspirit6535 ok idk what happened with my original reply but i got mine on pi cube but only cause it released earlier, i like the cubicle more also if youre getting one i recommend a fast and kinda dry set up, it works well with the cube
The mgc 4×4 is a lot cheaper than this cube in my country so should I just go for it or spend a bit more(difference is like 5-6 dollars) and buy this one?
I use the rs3m v5 and its really good, it requires a bit of setup tho. I recommend loosening the screws by 45/90 degrees since its a bit tight out of the box, also it does need a bit of lube on the pieces and the screws, but after setup it works pretty much perfectly
@@danielproduction9867the mini 4x4x4 from YJ is really nice, however, you'll either have to tighten it a little bit or not get too aggressive with your turns, as it does like to pop.
Hey, I know this is off topic but I'd like to add corner to core magnets to my Dayan Tengyun V2. I already have the ball core itself (from another cube) so I just need to attach magnets to the ends of the corners, does anyone have ideas on a good way to do that? Any help is appreciated
What kind of setup have you done to your zhilong? I like carrying it around as it fits in almost any 3x3x3 case, but I have to be very careful with it as it likes to pop from time to time. Gotta carry tweezers with it to put the internal pieces back into place without disassembling the entire thing. 😅 At home I also like to use my Valk 4M, but it's box is just way too big and not very good at keeping the cube safely in place if I throw it in my backpack.
Thank you for Cubicle understand and recognition! The VIN CUBE will continue to work hard.
Is there any way to tell which cube you get, the original that was recalled or the new release?
@hughjass3184 It can be judged from the outer packaging box that the new version has circles drawn on it
@@TheRealUncleFrank The new version of the packaging outer box has circles drawn○, while the old version has ✓
@@VINCUBEI can confirm that Speed Cube Shop has run through its stock of the old version and is now sending out the new improved version. My box had circles instead of checkmarks on it as said above.
@@VINCUBE cannn u make a video on where to find it? Im looking onlinr cant see it..
Whether it was intended for the public or not, I have to say I also respect the designer's no-nonsense response to being pressed about the product's issues, just laid it out exactly how it was.
I don’t understand how you would know our approach was not so diplomatic. I was extremely respectful given what happened. The context is they sold us hundreds of defective products and risked disappointing our customers. We also spent time and resources making a review that we had to scrap.
My question was about an uncomfortable topic but it had to be asked. It was asked respectfully. Their answer was fantastic and mature. They did well considering what happened.
@@asmallkitten In hindsight I was out of line here, my bad.
Edit: When I said "diplomatically," I meant it more in a negative sense, as in pussyfooting around so as to not offend anyone, as opposed to being very straightforward as you were in this case. I don't think that's a mischaracterization at all now that I think about it, but I didn't realize that the way I put it could mean something very differently entirely.
Either way, I obviously don't know the full nature of your correspondence, so I just shouldn't have assumed at all.
The MGC, Aosu and Vin actually appear have different design concepts.
The deeper domain of the mech are pretty similar, all have double anchors which is a feature since 2014 Aosu, but the shallow domains nearer the corner heads are where the cubes defer very signifcantly.
The Aosu has a Weilong mech where the 2nd layer sticks into the first layer, and from past experience, this seems to be better for corner cutting.
The MGC has a similar design concept to multiple cubes from the Yuxin little magic series where the cut lines of a third anchor (or stepped design that Phil pointed out) are visible on the edges and centers but trimmed away from the corners, creating some empty space and a lighter and airer feel.
The Vin has an RS3 mech where there is a square tip on the centers, but the corners are hollowed out at the same height at the square tip. The square tip makes the cube more stable, but the reverse corner cutting is not compromised due to that specific part of the corner being hollow and giving nothing for the center to catch on. I personally think this is a super smart way to make the most of reverse corner cutting and avoid the negative consequences of rounding or squaring the pieces too much.
I made a full video and a short where I compare the Vin and Aosu more clearly. Dislike the act of self promo but seeing the differences visually is better than that huge wall of text.
I’m new to solving 4x4, but so far I love this Vin cube!
Awesome response from the company, respect 🙏
"I think you have some competition, buddy."
I 100% agree that it feels similar to the MGC and it definitely has a lot of the same strengths, but I personally feel the VIN is more flexible and I find myself catching a bit because of that. Regardless though, it’s definitely my backup main now.
Do you think I should use it
What's your main? The MGC?
@@huyhuynh312 yeah
@@huyhuynh312 my main is the AoSu WRM but it used to be the MGC
I love how fast this cube is, main main main
My vin cube came pre-lubed. Though it’s not the end of the world, it was less desirable in this case due to there actually being way too much lube so I cleaned it out and re lubed it before using it. It’s a nice cube, I never liked the Mgc and my aosu was starting to destroy itself after 2 years of use so it’s nice to see a new release for 4x4 after a while.
You know it's a good day when The Cubicle uploads.
I love when the cubicle uploads!!
We can all agree that cubicle has the greatest review videos
I am seriously considering getting this cube, my MGC is not that good, and it’s always great seeing new 4x4’s on the market
its just simply better
Maybe I got the original version last week but I immediately returned mine in favor of my mgc. Despite tensioning and lube it felt sluggish and didn't feel like it had any magnets the finish was very dull not as shiny as my mgc. If there is a newer improved version I'd be happy to try again
Completely off topic comment - does anyone know what happened to crazybadcuber?
No idea sadly😢
Yay new 4x4! 🎉
so are the bad cubes all removed from the shelves and if I order from thecubicle will be be the new improved version? there's nothing on the website description that says it's the new improved version
Phil and Benmajin are total buddies.
but quick question how do you know you have the new version when buying in local stores does it have like codes or something
Both mgc and vin were designed by Zhang Haixu
Nice, I think this cube will be popular among 4x4 solvers
nerdy
i havent watched the video but im glad you made a review on this cube
i got one myself and its very smooth and performs very well, even though it lacks a bit of inner layer corner cutting imo (probably a skill issue in my part though cause i havent tried any other flagship 4x4s)
also the unboxing experience is among the best of any 4x4, and when you start turning it makes up for it (except it comes very loose and wet with lube so youre definitely gonna need a screwdriver and something to wipe the lube off the surface)
did you get it on amazon or cubicle?
@@dontflyspirit6535 none, i got mine on picubeshop cause it released earlier, but i prefer the cubicle as an overall cube shop
also if youre getting one yourself i recommend a fast and dry set up, but thats my preference
@@dontflyspirit6535 ok idk what happened with my original reply but i got mine on pi cube but only cause it released earlier, i like the cubicle more
also if youre getting one i recommend a fast and kinda dry set up, it works well with the cube
"It's got a nice weight to it." (explodes)
Gr8 vid has always ❤
That looks like a good turning 4x4
What a good way to end off my Wednesday🎉
Yeah good cube
can you make a video on meilong 6&7 v2? i really want to see these budget big cubes
Ohh it's phil
i just got an mgc and then this came out.
When I got mine It was fine
the designer of vin 4x4 is the same designer of mgc 4x4
Yooo,can you add on the magnetic core in meilong
How do I get that giant pyraminx. I need that so bad
is this better than mgc 4x4 with micro bearings and is it the best 4x4
Hei can u review meilong 6 and 7m?
The mgc 4×4 is a lot cheaper than this cube in my country so should I just go for it or spend a bit more(difference is like 5-6 dollars) and buy this one?
I bought a vin cube. IT WAS THE SQUEAKY ONE!
Day 2....I have used the tornado v3 for about 4 months and have absolutely hated it what cube do u recommend
Rs3m v5, the $10 one. Trust, brother.
Gan 12 maglev
I use the rs3m v5 and its really good, it requires a bit of setup tho. I recommend loosening the screws by 45/90 degrees since its a bit tight out of the box, also it does need a bit of lube on the pieces and the screws, but after setup it works pretty much perfectly
Somebody That had tryed bota cubes, which one is better rs3m v5 ball core or tornado v3 pionner uv?
Does anyone of the people in the comment section have a aosu wrm? Because i would Like to buy a small 4x4. Would you recommend it?
You should try the min yj 4x4
@@danielproduction9867the mini 4x4x4 from YJ is really nice, however, you'll either have to tighten it a little bit or not get too aggressive with your turns, as it does like to pop.
Should I buy that cube or an rs4m
Vin Cube for sure
CUTEST PLUSHIE
Hey, I know this is off topic but I'd like to add corner to core magnets to my Dayan Tengyun V2. I already have the ball core itself (from another cube) so I just need to attach magnets to the ends of the corners, does anyone have ideas on a good way to do that? Any help is appreciated
If 4x4 cube use core positioning system💀
Waiting for qiyi m pro review
10 min club🔥🔥🔥🔥
Man I just got my mgc yesterday for 20$.
Do anyone know how to lube and what lube should I use In a 4×4
I will not upgrade from my zhilong mini unless there is a 4x4 that really fits me.
What kind of setup have you done to your zhilong? I like carrying it around as it fits in almost any 3x3x3 case, but I have to be very careful with it as it likes to pop from time to time. Gotta carry tweezers with it to put the internal pieces back into place without disassembling the entire thing. 😅
At home I also like to use my Valk 4M, but it's box is just way too big and not very good at keeping the cube safely in place if I throw it in my backpack.
@@gcolombelli weight5 and dnm
what about aosu gtsu m
The intro haha
I want vin 33
Wow the views went up by 200 in a couple seconds 💀
I want best oh cube list
what about a 3by3 guys when is a new 3by3 coming out
I think in 2024 a cube must have corner magnets to be worth discussing about.
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