Keir Starmer Calls Rwanda Policy A "Gimmick" And Will Cancel It!
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- A a major press conference on Friday, Labour Leader Keir Starmer, promised to cancel the Rwanda Policy which he described as a "gimmick". He said he would deal with the smuggling gangs like other types of criminals. But, is this the right way to do it?
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Credit: Sky News
The most obvious way to stop the boats is to open safe and legal routes for asylum seekers. The French offered to help build a processing centre in France, the UK Conservative government refused that offer. Until the UK government do that they won't ever stand a chance of stopping people smuggling. Any politician who can't see that is either thicker than a brick, or is simply using the plight of asylum seekers to push their own political agenda.
And the Tories continue to waste MILLIONS of pounds of British taxpayers money on the Rwandan vanity project while as has been said,processing centres could have been built in Calais and Dieppe for a lot less than the Rwanda gimmick.Just one migrant has gone to Rwanda,volunteering to take the 3 grand and the free board,which will cost us a hell of a lot more than the 3 grand he took!😾
Everyone knows this. Sunak will not do anything about anything.
@@DerekHarrison-ue9vv, the question though is will Labour do it if they get into power, or will they just simply do like the Tories have done and continue to let people die in the channel. We need real action on this and not just more meaningless rhetoric from politicians.
@@MichaelSmith-ns8ow, will Starmer though that is the question.
Will Labour open safe and legal routes? I have my doubts
The Tories Started the boats
Brexit made the UK helpless and hopeless. You can't tell the UK population that you need to open safe and legal routes and work with the EU on this issue.
that doesn't suit the tory agenda of hate and envy!
@@shaun906Why would it? They only conserve themselves
*THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THIS WORSE GANGSTER POLICE STATE*
What does he mean with “Make Brexit work”? What is the “Plan”?
I think he getting into news that he has experience of tackling simular problems. As opposed to the idoits in the conservatives.
Keir is talking about the people smugglers, not the people being smuggled, dude.
Still, no solution unless they open safe routes, speed applications and allow them to work after 6 months.
The real answer is to lower the standard of living in the UK so much that people go the other way in small boats. Vote tory!
I don’t think that Starmer should give any specific policy choices before the election is called. I believe that Labour will setup processing centers in France to start and other countries in the future
Completely agree
It was Chris Mason asking the question, he's the BBC political editor and not from Sky News
Why do the press actually ask Starmer question's, but smile like wets to the current pm, Richie Soontobesacked?
Max, have you seen Penny Mordant"s Radish Party speech? Completely unhinged!
Rubbish Party speech.
Was that the "Stand up and fight" speech? 😂
No Thursday in Parliament.
@@EricaMullins-vr6hz What did she say now?
@@SirAntoniousBlock it' was a long rambling speech likening starmer to a crab and labour to a Radish . Red on the outside only.
Bring on the GE! Labour for the win 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
And in come the Thatcherite worshiping Red Tories! Truly the sunlit uplands are just in sight!
@@DemonDethchaseWhat? Thatcherite? You can protect your borders AND show compassion at the same time. I don't agree with everything Starmer says, but he's right about change. He's right about changing the asylum system. By weaponising Labour you are handing lip service to the Tories!
@DemonDethchase the centre is where you win, you want a left wing labour party in opposition? vote for the party that suits you if labour doesn't. I'm sure your party will win if 'they' appeal to the majority of Britain.
Starmer wasn't comparing asylum seekers to terrorists Max, he was talking about the criminal thugs in the smuggling gangs. Did you even listen to the speech in full?
He was comparing the gangs to terrorists, the asylum seekers are exploited by the gangs for the gang's benefit
If the UK created safe routes , the gangs would sell the idea it’s not for them..
Labour should also demand Sunak and all other pushers of this ridiculous scheme to refund the wasted money out of their own pockets. More officers dealing with asylum applications, in France as they kindly offer to place them, safe routes to end people smuggling, allow them to work if waiting over 6 months and speedy deportations if failed.
Who has effectively stopped drug smuggling ?
No, Max, he's not comparing asylum seekers to terrorists, he's comparing the criminal gangs to terrorists. I'm no Starmerite, but what he's saying here is perfectly sensible.
Max is listening prpperly,
@@meenabootle6777 errm, that's...nice? I mean, you can listen properly and still be wrong. Do you have anything more substantive to offer?
@@AlecBrady
Max was NOT listening properly,I don't even live in your country but I understood what Keir Starmer was saying.
There is no support for the Rwanda policy in Rwanda!
Did he say how exactly? He could just not be saying that he will re-introduce safe routes, he's just being goal oriented not exposing details of his strategy.... ?
I understood him so too. It’s not easy to come out with a detailed plan that requires an agreement with the Frech government or with the EU before Labour is in power. I also took his reference about terrorism and drug smuggling to be about combatting against the people smugglers and not about combating refugees. I guess just talking about introducing safe routes as a concept could be too vague without a proper plan could also be used against them by the Tories or the other far right voices.
Not yet. He will reveal his “Plan” soon.
Labour will fail on this one 2 until safe routes are implemented
What part of Labours _"Make Brexit Work"_ slogan don't people understand?
Shit ! For months I've thought it was Sunak's Rhondda Plan. D'you mean they're not sending refugees to Tonypandy ???
Mind you, I didn't think Tonypandy had an airport 🛫🛬
Noooo Rhondda isn't where he's sending migrants, it's the name of the patient he spoke to on Nick Ferrari's show.
This had me creased 😂
What about the Falklands? Nobody there
Max. The terrorism analogy is more to do with the idea of pursuing those who organise this at the management level. That is how you break organised crime gangs. The small boats are a business, not unorganised chaos of lots of small gangs as Tories like to talk about. The Tories are focussed on those who are crossing not those who profit from them. Meanwhile, safe and legal routes being put back into place (Bet Labour take France up on the Calais processing centre) relieve the need for crossings. Gangs will only do this if the profit is there. Reduce profit, reduce crossings.
Starker said it requires coordination. Again carefully chosen words but not giving the tory client media any red meat. I believe he’s talking about doing deals with the EU/France. At least I hope he his.
If he turned round and said we need to hire hundreds or thousands of staff to process existing claims as well as doing a bunch of other stuff the media would report “oh look Labour are going to increase tax by hiring all these government bods and let asylum seekers get welfare quicker”
What he should say is: Build a processing centre in France and one in Dover. The Number’s of Migrants that are already here are the problem. Who allowed this?
Agree a number?
Open talks with France. Ooops we are not represented in Europe!
Use our Embassies.
Build the processing center also in Gibraltar
“Processing centre in France”. Has a German connotation to it.
@@Mozart69938 Maybe their new "advisor" Natalie Elphicke can design a new policy (a modest proposal as it were) whereby asylum seekers and their boats could be processed and turned into building material for houses thereby solving two problems at once.
Despicable Tories
I wouldn’t worry about it too much.. it’s early days.. hopefully once Starmer gets into office.. he and his team will present a clearer policy prescription
He’s correct in his approach by calling it a gimmick. It’s like a cyber truck - it’s flashy, expensive, and worthless. His more down to earth approach will probably play well.
Would be hilarious if Starmer loses his seat.
He also has a “Plan” !
Starmer's not comparing two different things as if they share a common solution.
He's deflecting from the core of the question by using it as an opportunity to tell us about his previous successes so we believe he will succeed on this matter too.
Thanks for the clarity.
Did they spend the HS2 budget on this Rwanda thing?
Yes, they did.
@@garryferrington811 Surely this would be a great point to make at PMQs! Although I doubt Starmer reading these comments
It's a risk worth taking. The Tory style of three word slogans and ambiguous messages that haven't evolved since they were sketched out on a cigarette packet have a very limited shelf life.
"Look, you know the Rwanda scheme is bollocks and I know it's bollocks, but let's discuss it as though it's actually relevant and could function in the real world. Next week on Question Time, join us as we discuss the evolutionary biology of unicorns as though it's a thing."
Chris Mason from the BBC and not Sky, a very good decent journalist.
It deeply amuses me that Starmer says its not a gimmick as he compares these people to terrorists, but he still fails to offer up any specifics which makes it sound like a gimmick.
I will say though, Max, that I do belie we should nontheless prosecute the gangs instead of just letting them disperse. They have killed hundreds, if not thousands of people through negligence and laziness in how they operate and that should be dealt with.
Getting a dingy full of people from the uk back to france is not a 'hard thing' to do. 20 top channel swimmer's could toe them across.
Yes Starmer is correct
The small boats thing is exactly that, small as in 4% of arrivals in the UK. Starmer should avoid focusing on that and work on the 96%.
Thats right, I think Max has misunderstood this….you can compare people smuggling gangs (that are OCGs) to terrorists…..and Kier is right, you may never completely stop drug and terror related crime….but you do
all you can to try…same with people smuggling. The point about opening up safe routes will be equally important.
Zoe Gardner Common sense in abundance ❤
With everything else going on I'd be surprised if Rwanda decides an election but I agree the best thing is safe routes. The idea of processing them in France sounds good but what happens when they fail but still get on a boat because the UK is still where they want to go? Unless France has a power the UK doesn't, to return them to their home countries, the only real alternative to them dying is safe routes.
That's Chris Mason, BBC. But yeah, same old bollocks.
I couldn't care less about him cancelling the Rwanda legislation. He won't get the wasted money back.
What I do care about is the NHS. Wes Streeting wants it privatised, he has very close links to a healthcare provision company. And Cur won't stop the Labour Gullis.
Come on Max, what is he supposed to say? "I don't know because I've never stopped people smugglers before"?
That's just utter nonsense. All he can do is to lay down his track record on combatting other types of similar international criminal schemes.
Good
I will believe that Starmer will cancel the failed Rwanda policy which has been designed purely to appeal to the far right/fascist element of the English population(remember Scots and Welsh votes do not really count at Westminster and the parties they elect are belittled by both English establishment parties)on the day Auld Nick Ice skates to work in Heaven. After all the Labour party has now accepted as one of their own an MP who has repeatedly backed brexit,anti-union laws and a disparagement of all non English foreigners indicating that as Mr Flynn in parliament said that"Labour and the Tories are two cheeks of the same arse". This should surely signal to the Scots ,Welsh and Northern Irish where we truly stand and why we must leave this benighted union
I could cheaply stop the criminal gangs in the channel in the next half an hour. The Government could charter one cross-channel ferry a week & bring people across for processing. All this fake concern about migrant safety & ending criminality from both political parties I thought people disliked dishonest politicians
He's taking about the smuggling gangs compared to terrorists thicko! So it's oranges and tangerines 🍊 duh!!
It was at the beginning of your video 😂
I normally agree with your views all the time but I think you missed a trick here buddy 😉 👍
i still don't believe a single word he says
well we don't mind helping you even though you don't want to help yourself
Vote Labour.👍🏼✌🏼
Better than soonak
Should change his policy in Palestine first
What he said to begin with was disappointing, but he aims to build trust back, he didn't anticipate what was to come.
@@kindmulberry7196 Nah to much cash for Friends of Israel
Is it just me, or is Keir Starmer just really boring?
He could make anything really dull, just by talking about it.
Elphicke will be detailed to 'stopping the boats ' ? After she is congratulated in ' stopping the boats ' she will get elevated to Secretary of State for Justice and Torture! As Labour pick up the Brexit baton.
Labour will give us a 'Better Brexit ' right ? Right?
If, by the time of the g/e,, the Rwanda policy appears to be deterring the channel illegals (ie working) then it would be silly to stop it on some principal.
I think he's comparing the terrorists to the gangs who are taking the money, getting the boats and sending off refugees on a dangerous crossing. To that end, you can target the organisations. So yes, you need to provide mechanisms for refugees to apply before they get onto a small boat. Create a proper process. Rwanda is a gimmick which is internationally illegal so terminating is a no brainer.
The reservation I have is that, having created the process, checking the applicants and maybe refusing some of them - what do you do with those that are refused? I imagine you could work with Belgian and French authorities to determine if would be acceptable for said people to remain in those countries or maybe they should be returned to their country of origin as per EU regs and treaties. However, I can see their may still be some who will seek a small boat even after being refused entry to the UK.
Most of those refugees, which are coming over to the UK, have been already in one of the EU27 member states, claimed for asylum and either got tolerated, where the deadline is running out, short before getting deported, or have been refused, because they didn't fulfill the needed criteria for asylum, and are short before getting deported.
Since Brexit the UK can't do those push backs towards the EUropean Continent/France anymore, the refugees know that as well, as news "travel fast" these days.
Problem with deportation is, that most countries, where those refugees are coming from, don't take their own people back...
The EU27 are trying to do so since years, doing deals with various countries etc, all doesn't really help, because the smugglers are telling the refugees to "throw away" their papers...and then the authorities of that country of arrival has the job, to find out, where that person is coming from, ask the authorities of that country, to hand out papers for that person...which also is quite difficult as well... All not as easy, as it might look like...
Because drug smuggling is exactly like people smuggling. And we know that all the drugs in the UK are 100% home-grown. What a ridiculous comparison! And a very weak response, the question was asked in bad faith, why should Labours success/failure be measured by Tory standards? It was Sunak that pledged to stop the boats, a pledge he never intended to keep, how come it now becomes Labours promise?
Are there Coca fields in the Home Counties?🤤
Him welcoming in tories into the is bigger news.
Even if “Safe and legal routes” were a political possibility, they wouldn’t stop the illegal crossings, it’s supply and demand, more people want to come than there is space for.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 So he will 😂😂😂😂😂😂 give it until next week and he’ll u-turn on it!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I do not trust Sir Keir
Give him 5 minutes and he’ll change his mind… red Tories
Is this video worth watching?
This isn't news.
Even my dog knew it was Labour policy.
1-don't use the legislation
2-when there's room in the Labour administration in-tray, repeal it
I suppose it's worth making a non-video for the RUclips revenue from your disciples watching it
It's a pledge!!!
It is a gimmick it isn't working what's the alternative!
Safe and legal routes, clamping down on criminal activity
Will he really? I wouldn't trust Starmer as far as I could throw him, and given his recent embrace of a Tory so right wing she would make Suella Braverman blush I seriousy question if Starmer will ever do the right thing.
Give him a chance, don't pay the Tories lip service. I'm a Lib Dem voter and breaking down the speech there's a lot to unravel and I'd wish he'd push for better EU relations,but by bashing Labour's every decision you'll just get 5 more years of Tories. It isn't worth the risk is it? Critique yes, bash no
It was damaging bringing in such a right wing outspoken critic of Starmer and the Labour Party in Natalie Elphicke.While it was a big two fingers up to Sunak,she’s far too right wing for Labour.And what was even more annoying was seeing the likes of Annalise Dodds and on QUESTION TIME,Lisa Nandy,defending Starmer’s decision and both saying she’d apologised for her comments.All the people I’ve spoken to about this have said the same thing…WHAT’S STARMER PLAYING AT?
@@DerekHarrison-ue9vv It's called Trolling Tories. And it's for sale for 9,95 at Tories "R" Us!
Starmer & Labour have no gimmicks-except for saying the word gimmicks as their new buzzword. Saw about 15 minutes of it & he must have said it 500 times. Protecting the border is what is needed, but his dismissal of opening up safe routes is hugely disappointing. As you would expect from a Tory trying to appeal to far right Tories it is all punishment & no compassion. Also had no answer for Elphicke-but of course he cannot, because it is just a gimmick.
I've been done with Sir Keir for a while now, he's not going to change anything in Britain it will be the same austerity but under a more pleasant regime.
Starmer is a gimmick, do the right thing and quit.
Starmer says a lot of things. See his broken pledges to become Labour leader as a key example. The only thing that separates Sir Keir Rodney Starmer and Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, is that Starmer knows how to use a comb.
Starmer isn't perfect, but think about this for a sec. You despise the Tories, right? Labour is the main antidote. Challenge Starmer when he's in power absolutely, but do not let the Tories bounce back! I'm shocked and angered by the Elphicke deflection too, I'm a Lib Dem voter, she is the complete opposite to what I stand for in every category, but you have to back Labour if you want to stop the Tories (unless you're in the blue wall ofc, then it'd be a safe Lib Dem vote, at least in my case)
Cameron tried to run the UK as he had promised in the leadership election of 2005.
It’s been a disaster.
@@kindmulberry7196 I despise the Tories on both sides of the house, and the lesser of two evils is still evil.
If anyone thinks starmer will stick to anything he says you literally just haven't been paying attention.
If he doesn't we'll get to that hurdle, but more Lib Dems on the front benches will help challenge it (I'm a Lib Dem voter so sorry for a bit of bias)
The problem is as usual.Starmer pandering to the far right and ignoring the rest of the country. He talks a lot and says so little just like a lawyer. Is stama a million times better than sunak?Absolutely.Is he really any good that we shall see
He's not pandering to the far right. The far right is creating a toxic culture to divide and split, by not backing Labour or the Lib Dems (the latter in the blue wall and in Scotland) you're asking for more Tory disaster and. Reform Faragist party which will influence the government way more, hence the far-right rhetoric. with Labour, the Faragist are gonna be out of steam, they won't be able to influence labour at all. The likes of Galloway are NOT progressive and are NOT a positive example. The far-left is not the answer.
Starmer is far from perfect BUT he is still a million times better than ANY tory.