I did a crappy job filming. Since you couldn't read them on the video the field of view and visual offset values the values were as follows. Field of views were 44.5 for all monitors, due to bezel correction. I figured out a good way to calculate that value unless your bezel is very large. Take the width of the screen (inside between inner edge of the side bezels) and divide it by the total monitor width (including bezels). Multiply this fraction by the uncorrected field of view to get the corrected field of view, In my case the screen width was 42.5 inches and the total monitor width was 43 inches so: 42.5 / 43 * 45 degrees = 44.4787 degrees ... almost exactly the 44.5 degrees I arrived at by trial and error, The lateral rotation values were -45 , 0 , +45 for the left, center, and right monitors respectively.
Thank u You for the video. My question is you showed 1 monitor made from all 3. Then you had 3 monitors in xplane, my video card is GTX 1070 have not been able to do that. Any help please? Thank you
Yes it was a bit hard to read but you did a fantastic job explaining it. Thanks for your advice. I am trying to decide if I am going to use a projector or multiple screens for the forward views.
I second the question posed by @@captainkneemo3282. The first time you enter settings, it looks like my settings panel. The second time, it shows multiple monitors. So how did it change? I have one monitor that is a different max resolution, and when I try to set the graphics to stretch to all three, it crushes a triple-width XPlane onto my main monitor and I can barely make out the words anymore. Is that normal?
is there any way to pump in my monitor size (27") (into your formulas) for 3 monitor setup and get the eye distance i need to be away from the monitors at let's say 45 degrees and other angles. I was thinking there was a formula but i looked back at the video a 2nd time and don't see it. I went to the other video as well that is for eye and bezel
Russ - made some more tweaks last night after reviewing your video for the third time. Again, I'd been using the NVidia Surround multi -monitor setup with FSX Steam and the distortion with the left and right monitors was an issue. I was blown away last night with XPlane 11 once I got my settings right. Even though I'm taken a hit on frame rates, the views were outstanding. Thanks for your help!
Thomas Briscoe Glad to hear you feel the same way I did about it. I now have the monitors each rotated back at 60 degrees and the 180 total FOV is awesome. Being able to look down at the runway while on downwind makes flying circuits(patterns) a snap. Taxiing is also much easier.
This helped me out. Thank you. This is way better than the surround display! This method also works with 2 monitors, you just need to play around with the settings until you get it right.
Brother, you are the man. This is so appreciated. Your videos target all the things that we simmers want to know and no one else has the insight to make videos to address them. Thanks a bunch and you just got another sub..
After fighting to figure this out, your video MADE MY DAY! I have a 3 monitor setup on 32" screens with the forward facing a curved monitor. Saved me a bunch of frustration brother! Thank you!!
Richard I need help when I make a turn the main monitor (middle one turn) looks normal while the other two monitors left and right stay on same view so it looks awkward middle monitor turning two other monitors stay on the same position did you have same issue "
@@elguindy I do not have the same issue. I made a short video showing my settings for x-plane 11 with an example of how it looks on my system. You can follow the link. I'm no pro but between this video and taking a look at my settings maybe it will help. ruclips.net/video/BPc9e_y7dHg/видео.html
@@elguindy I'm thinking you may need to adjust the visual settings in x-plane regarding the monitors and what each one is assigned to do. Another problem may be how you have the monitors connected to your video card. I have 4 ports. Two monitors are hooked to the Display Port and one on the HDMI port. Good luck!
Your videos are inspiring me to step up my gaming. I'm a little unconventional. I am building a helicopter-specific flight sim complete with a touchscreen pedestal and panel. If you look at the view from a helicopter you can always see scenery to the side of the panel, so I initially considered a 5-screen set up, with three 60 degree 55" monitors and a smaller (37-43") monitor below the outside monitors. Then I considered turning the two side monitors from horizontal (47.9" high x 27"h) to vertical (27" wide x 47.9" high), and using a slightly smaller front monitor, like a 48" (37.5" wide x 21.1" high). Hum....🤔
EXCELLENT video! I am an XPlane 10 user and just built a nice PC so I'm monitor shopping now to replace the failing 22" I have. I'm focused on a trifecta of 27" 2560x1440 144hz (2k) and I'll definitely be using your info to help set them up. Subscribed!
Uhhh... a qualification to my comments below. I just watched a more recent video you made: "Multi Monitor Sim: Can X-Plane 11 Vulkan handle it?" and you addressed a lot of what I wrote below, but not all, so I'm still curious. The other video IS a good companion to this one though and also really well done. You do great work Russ. Thank you! Would love to comment and ask questions on a few things. COMMENT 1: First of all, excellent video. You provided some really outstanding tips and demonstrated the results splendidly! Anyone that gets more hung up on technical glitches (video sync) than they are appreciative of this really very well prepared content... well, maybe I should leave it there. COMMENT 2: I hate how there's not a little 'i' icon near some of these settings that you can hover your mouse over and have a pop-up window that tells you the ramifications for that particular setting. That way, you can be sure which setting is the best one to choose. For example, when choosing between the options "Full Screen Simulator", "Windowed Simulator", "Instructor Operating Station", and "2-D Panel Only"; none of those individual words are hard to understand. However, the specific thing that is meant by "Windowed Simulator", that is, the ramifications of what that selection will create, are anything but intuitive. That's more feedback for X-Plane I suppose and yet another reason I'm thankful to you for making this video! COMMENT 3: I worked in the consumer audio/video market for years and was well aware that pretty much any HD TV ever made had a line scaler built into it. For those of you unfamiliar with what that means, it simply means if the native resolution of the panel is say, 768p but the content is 720p or 1080i, the internal scaler would convert the 1080i or 720p feed to match the panel's native 768p resolution and scanning. The panel itself is only capable of one resolution and one way of scanning. It has a FIXED number of pixels and scans either progressively or in an interlaced fashion. So that conversion work has to be done in the line scaler before it reaches the panel. QUESTION 1: Comment 3 is really a preface to this multi-part question. Due to flight sim performance challenges, I always wondered if computer monitors also possessed line scalers, just like consumer TVs. If it's in the budget, it just makes sense to use 4k monitors, but choose 1080p as the output resolution from the computer and let the monitors do the heavy lifting of converting the 1080p signal to 4k internally, so as not to destroy frame rate or create ridiculous amounts of stutter coming out of the GPU. You still get a pseudo 4k result. Then when high end CPU & GPU performance become more affordable, just upgrade those parts to get the full 4k performance along with great rendering. No need to replace the monitors. So my question is, when you select resolution in the X-Plane settings, is that setting implemented at the output of the X-Plane software itself before it's ever sent to the GPU so as to not overwork the GPU? Or is the X-Plane software merely changing those settings in the GPU itself? Last question connected with this. If computer monitors do NOT line scale, does that mean that line scaling is still being done at the GPU, making it work harder because it's line scaling 1080p content up to 4k? QUESTION 2: I believe there are quite a few changes that have occurred since you made this video. For example, I think your video predates "Knobster". Also, NVIDIA has rolled out some higher performance GPUs in the form of the RTX 2070 and RTX3080 that might be around the same price as the GTX1070 was back in 2016. A couple of other changes are X-Plane's switch to Vulkan and they also claim that their software is now simpler to setup for newbies, but still preserves higher level settings for advanced users. Maybe that means that if you select the number of monitors and resolution that it will change other settings like texture, scenery, etc, for optimal performance, based on the GPU you're using? So, my question is... at the risk of asking you to do a lot of work... is this video worth re-shooting based on all those changes? (It's maybe worth mentioning Honeycomb products also, in case their new hardware results in an increase in processing power demands.) I'll just say a hearty thank you once more! I've added this video to my favorites because the day is coming when I'll need to refer to it as a valuable resource. All the very best Russ!!!
William... as of now no but rumors are that that may be coming in an upgrade of XP11. Some other of the work is dome n the CPU though, like reflections, so multiple graphics cards may not solve every performance issue but could go a long way.
Hi there Russ Barlow. I can see that I am a late arrival to this thread so here's hoping you will respond to my question. . . . This question is put forward because of the dialog between you and Cessnaflightsim 10 months ago. I read that and paused, then a ray of hope began to glimmer! First of all some background information to give better context to my inquiry:- I am presently running P3Dv4 from a 'Host PC' with two RTX 2070's driving 7 x 27" monitors that display scenery views, giving a total of 315° FOV. There is an 8th monitor connected to the host PC that I use to display the ATC window and Active Sky. Using the app called SpaceDesk, I have wirelessly connected a 9th display (a 7" Notepad) which shows the pop-out GPS very nicely. This PC is fairly heavily loaded up as you can see and the frame rates are fairly low (
In short yes that would be possible. I would suggest having the two front monitors on the same computer just in case there is any network latency. The front view is most noticeable. The views assigned to each graphics card need not be contiguous.
@@rbarlow thanks VERY much for responding to my question. What you say comes as good news. Awesome news in fact! Could I prevail upon your generousity to expand a little on the theme of 'separated' as opposed to 'contiguous' assignments of views? One further question - When I set my sim up with three monitors as a single 'view' with NVIDIA surround I see the expected result replete with distortion at the extremities. However, when I present the three monitors to XP11 as seperate views, the right hand monitor is ignored. It seems to be acknowledged, as Monitor 2, but no settings are exposed for me to adjust offsets etc. Any ideas about how to address that? All three monitors are identical and their resolutions are all set as 1920 x 1080.
Rush iam using X plane 11 And i have now 3 50” TV screen for my homecockpit but i can not set them ok. How you can help me with this? I Need to set my 3 screeens ✈️
Hi Russ.... best explanation I have seen thus far. Great job! Quick question. I have a 27" main monitor and a left and right monitor 24". I there a way to get thos lined up? I have the main monitor in front and the 2 monitors (left) and (right) angled approx 45 degrees on each side. the edges of each monitor to screen are about 1 1/2" (think that's the bezel). Thoughts?? Thanks in advance!
Te hago una consulta, cuando cerras el simulador y lo volves abrir tenes que volver a configurar todo de nuevo? por que me pasa eso tengo que configurar monitor por monitor me vuelvo loco para hacer eso cada vez que vuelo. quiero prender fuego todo ya...
Hi Russ, what do you think of having 3 27" monitors 1440 - is that way too small? I would really like larger monitors so I can see the smaller text on glass screens like for example in the TBM 900 with the G1000, the text on those dang G1000's is just so dang small. My eyes aren't what they used to be. So would you recommend going 4K and go up to like a 34 or 36" monitor. I was thinking of making the middle screen huge and then the two side screens 27's (1440) or i could reduce the resolution on the two sides to 1080 so that they would run faster and then the middle one would be the huge 43" 4K or maybe 36" 4K so that the two 27's wouldn't look so awkward next to them. So in review. Left and Right 27's, (2k), then the middle a big honcho 4K at whatever screen size you think i would be able to see clearly on the TBM 900 with the G1000 glass cockpit. Or a Skyhawk II with G1000 glass cockpit, or a Jet Liner (commercial). SO anyway, just give me your thoughs, i need to be able to see small G1000 text
Do you know whether the X-Plane 11 multi-view setup will allow X-Plane to run each view through a separate graphics card? In other words, separate graphics cards (not SLI bridged) drive the left, center and right views/displays. I understand that XP does not support SLI, so that is not what I'm suggesting. I'm wondering whether a high-end CPU, coupled with three high-end GPUs (e.g., NVidia GTX 1080s) in a single computer, each driving a separate monitor configured in this multi-view setup could achieve higher frame rates or equal frame rates with higher resolution monitors. Or, is this incompatible with the way XP 11 addresses the multi-view setup? I know this can be done running multiple networked computers, but I wonder whether this multi-view setup would allow this approach in a single computer. I am concerned that X-Plane 11 might not recognize the separate GPUs and will always try to output the multiple views through the main view graphics card. (I don't have this rig yet or know anyone who does, so I can't experiment.) Thanks for any insights.
Russ, new xplane user here but your videos are very helpful. I noticed you said you are running air manager pushing the touch panels on a separate computer. How exactly is the xplane data getting to the air manager software? Also, what specs would that computer require?
Great overview of what X plane 11 is capable of. I'm running version 9.3 with the Elise software on 5, 30 inch 2560x 1600 monitors in portrait. (three x980ti) Get around 30 fps with that setup. Using Elise with 10.4 fps is too low to be usable. I use both a slaved version of X Plane on a second computer and Air Manager for instrument panels.
Not an expert in any way. But I think the reason why your image was so stretched out with the Nvidia Surround option was because you inputted that 135 degree view. I believe if you would have left it at default it would have been just fine. The Surround mode should already calculate the appropriate field of view, so by you adding extra field of view input it stretched the image out. That's my theory of course. I don't have a three monitor setup.
With a 34" wide center screen and two 27" side screens, is there a different setting to use? The left and center screens look fine, but the right screen is only half used.
Hi my freind, would a 1080ti be able to run this 46 inch multi tv panel at 1080p resolution with a a 9700k or 9900k in Xplane 11? I know it's a bit late but I'm thinking of going down this route for my setup and could really do with knowing before I start spending. Earned a sub from me and thanks for these videos, excellent.
What would be helpful as well is if you posted your computer system specs like how many gcards you have to support these monitors and computing power. Hows the frame rate when flying?
This was made over three years ago when X-Plane11 was just released and multiple views first were available. I have a recent video that may have more data that is current and includes Vulkan graphics improvements. It is looking at running 4 and even 5 monitors on a single computer but it may be helpful. Look at this: ruclips.net/video/ZOdI__BMat4/видео.html
Russ, this is such a great video. I know you did this like two years ago but I was wondering if you have the TV's on conference room stands or on tables? I watched your other video on monitors and eye positions but trying to figure out the best way to hold them in place. It will be three 55 inch 4K TV's with a RealSimGear G1000 and StayLevel 172 Cockpit frame to hold them.
thank you for your quick response Russ. I am getting around 16 to 20 frames when I take off out of klga. my specs are AMD Radeon 8320 I just purchased and Nvidia GTX 1060 with 6 Gigabytes of DDR 5 I have a 750 watt power supply 16 gigabytes of DDR3 RAM but I am only running one 32 inch screen and 217 inch on both sides so considering it really isn't that bad I will definitely try your idea of lowering the World objects but I have to say I have been in FSX guy for 20 years this X-Plane 11 is definitely growing on me talk to you soon my friend
gemster18 so First of all,it doesn't exist an AMD Radeon 8320, second I would do an upgrade to AMD Ryzen CPU or a Intel CPU. And I would take 32gb of ram.
Hi Russ I'm a bit late to the game I know. I am a pvt, inst rated pilot who lost my medical, vision issues. Trying to set up similar to your 5 monitors my 2 lower monitors for air manager on the same pc as the sim, would I still use the same settings you show thanks, well done by the way
Afternoon Russ, I am a former RW pilot as well. I am a little late to this party after a bit of a hiatus. I appreciate your postings and as imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I am attempting your multi monitor setup at this time. As the future makes faster components available, I am utilizing three 43" TVs in concert with 2 machines, an older unit which I will need to Upgrade and pair it with a new one just acquired from XforcePC. Just waiting on some things to arrive and calibrate peripherals at this time. I am looking forward to my learning curve plateauing, LOL, but enjoy all of your videos. Question: What are specs on your machine in the Multi monitor Vulkan single setup? BTW, to join this "club" I convinced my wife that this deal was cheaper than a quarter share of an SR 22T.
Thanks a lot for this clear and detailed explanation! Will this work for (three) projectors on a curved screen as well? I'm currently planing to set up a 220-270 degree curved screen with three projectors. Projectors need to do warping and edge blending. "Warpalizer" - as far as I know - does need NVIDIA Surround to get warping and blending working. If NVIDIA Surround is switched off, Warpalizer can not do its job. Does anybody know how this could be solved with three separate screens in X-Plane? Can any other warping and blending software handle this? Which one? Any recommendations are very appreciated.
Thank you for this very helpful video. I folllowed your instructions in the video and everything works great. There is on area that I can't seem to get fixed. When I start up XPlane 11 all three monitors are displaying forward views with scenery as set in the graphic settings. However, when I pan left or right I am in the cockpit looking out of the cockpit. In other words I can pan left or right outside of the cockpit. When I return to the forward view it is nothing but scenery. Is there something I missed.
Thanks you very informative video. We all know XP11 is not optimized yet but unfortunately the fps drop is huge (25-35%). I'm on 5 flat plane 5 HD monitors setup with TrackIR (AMD Fury) so this setup will certainly will kill my framerate.
You can, of course, run more than one networked computer to support all those monitors but it requires an additional copy of X-Plane for each computer. I only have a GTX1070 gpu but it seems that 3 HD monitors with reduced settings is about all I can manage with a decent FPS.
I ask you a question, when you close the simulator and open it again, do you have to reconfigure everything again? why does that happen to me I have to configure monitor by monitor I go crazy to do that every time I fly. I want to set fire to everything...
..tnx Russ for your introduction, other than "Educating" us it gives some ideas about XP-11 capabilities. However, this setup is heavy on Frames & I think that if you switch and apply the setup to VC you may bring any decent Rig to its knees, must be away to incorporate XP network capabilities and distribute the load to more than one NOD, like the Center View in Client Rig & the 2 sides Views to the Master Rig, or any other combinations ..... IMHO, VC Mode is way more realistic at list when it comes to GA Airplanes Cheers
Russ I set up my monitors with the settings you suggested. The monitors are aligned perfectly! Thank you. However, the instrument panel covers both the center screen and part of the right screen and appears to be enlarged. I am not able to toggle down to see the trim wheel or breaker panels. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
How do you get the monitors to show up. Need to show us that step before we can work the geometry. The geometry is the easy part.Getting monitor 2 and monitor 3 to show up is another task that is not explained. Please can you explain how to get the other two monitors to show up so that I can work the numbers.
Show up in Windows or in X-Plane If the latter there is a scroll bar at the bottom of the window that lets you mover right to see other attached monitors. It isn’t obvious how it is laid out
looking for someone to setup my flight simulator. I have a Honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant. need to have the correct assignments to both devices. I am running both Xplane-11 and MSFS 2020. I am in Arizona. Any suggestions?
Visio 49” 4K several years old. I suggest you look at the Website www.rtings.com/ Main things to look for is side input lag, viewing angle, motion blur. Look at info on that website to see gaming tv use comparisons.
Russ what a beautiful setup....great job. just out of curiosity what are your computer specs? I can't believe your getting 45 frames! I can't get passed 22.. merry Christmas Sir. V1........ROTATE 🛫
My 3 visual system is an i7-4770K 3.5 Ghz with an Nvidia GTX1070. I have found the most important setting for FPS is the "Number of World Objects" selected. In urban areas and highly detailed airports my FPS can drop to the high teens. With the same settings in rural areas it can return to 40-50. I have found using Medium is probably the best compromise for me since I am hooked on the three view setup. As a retired RL Pilot, I prefer smoother motion(higher FPS) and the accurate views to the more realistic ground objects. I suppose when the nvidia GTX 1280 or 1380 are available I will have both (unless X-Plane 12 is launched by then) :) . Seems like Laminar is always pushing the limits of the available technology...and that's what I like about them.
Dear Sir, Thanks for the awesome video.Question please, I am running three 32 in monitors, I am clueless on what Air Manager is or does. In your thoughts, is this necessary or a luxury? And what do I need to purchase? Cost is a issue for me, as I am a Airport Firefighter on a limited budget! :) Just setting up a sim from scratch and to be honest,already have went WAY over what I had budgeted! Also please, what is your recommendation for a yoke, pedals, etc..My main purpose of sim is to get comfortable with, probably a 172 as I about to begin my quest for a Private ticket..Also this will give me a better understanding of my job....Thank you for your advice and time...or if better for you,I could give you my email address?? Be safe..Roger
Hi Russ! I´ve had trying to distribute the cockpit (toliss, Flight Factor, etc) through 03 monitors. But it´s impossible. Is there some restrictions from XPlane about this?
Great video Russ. I'm running FSX Steam with 3 / 27" Asus monitors and NVidia Surround. The distortion and warping on the left and right monitors are frustrating and the multi-monitor option with XPlane 11 might be the fix that I'm looking for. Did you disable the Nvidia Surround Option in order to set-up the 3 individual monitors. Also, I used the XPlane demo and when flying the Cessna or Boeing 737-800, the forward 3D cockpit view put me too close to the instruments. With FSX I had to tweak a line within the configuration file along with Ezdok in order to achieve various distances within the internal and external views. How would I make the adjustments with XPlane 11. Thanks.
Why am I getting black areas, like a silhouette, on the right and left monitors? Also, what CPU are you using here? I'm only getting about 12 FPS with moderate settings.
Now that I have my 3 monitors setup perfectly how do I save this setup? It is so aggregating when I close out of X-Plane 11 only to find that my custom multi-screen setup has defaulted back to one monitor.
X-Plane will remember the set up as long as you have all the monitors connected and powered when you boot up. If anything has changed in your displays it will go back to the default setup. I use three TVs and if I don’t turn them on before starting my computer it thinks they are not there and screws up my setup. Let me know if this doesn’t help.
I saw another video on you tube where they use the program SRWE. Do you think that this program can solve the distortion problem when using 3 monitors?
Fantastic video! Love your set up as well. I was wondering how you have 3 screens and also have another 3 screens for your air manager gauges. How did you do this as my computer only let's me have 4 screens connected at a time.
Cessnaflightsim I was running two computers. One powerful one for the simulator and scenery and an older one to run Panels on Air Manager. If you want to incorporate X-Plane pop out windows(G530;G1000) into your Air Manager Layouts then Air Manager must be running on the same computer as X-Plane. The solution is to have a master copy of X-Plane running on a computer to run Air Manager and a second copy of X-Plane on another computer running as an External visual for the three scenery views.
good morning friend, how did you manage to put only the instruments on the smaller monitor? I've been trying for weeks and I can't. can you inform me? thank you!
Yep. X-Plane also has hand controller support in VR and the ability to set ceiling and visibility for weather and a very accurate flight model and…. Well you get the idea. MSFS has great scenery but for cockpit builders and serious pilots it is far behind. No doubt MS has the ability to add all this stuff but if they want to support all features in Xbox too, it could limit how far they can go. Not to mention there is probably more $$ to be made as a game vs. a simulator
Great video. I have just setup my Xplane 11 home cockpit with 3 1080p TVs. Only problem I have is getting my settings right. I have a 43” in the centre and two 32” tvs for the two side ones. They are both angled at 60 degrees, and my viewpoint is 170cm from front screen. I seem to be going round in circles changing the settings around.... any help would be much appreciated...
Nick I have never considered using mismatched monitors on both sides. If you set them up with the same FOV as the larger monitor the image size will not match up. Try this: to make the side monitors look the sam size and match up with the 43" try setting the side monitors to a smaller FOV proportionate to the realitive size of the monitors. For example if the center is 43" and sides are 32" 32/43= 0.744. If your center is FOV 60 degrees, the set the sides to 60 X 0.744= 45 degrees. Then make sure the vertical centers of all three monitors are aligned since there is no way to adjust the vertical offset, only the angle. Then set your side monitors back so their centers are perpendicular to your ideal eye position for the center monitor. Not sure it will work perfectly but best I can do off the top of my head.
Russ Barlow Thankyou for the quick reply, I will give it a try. Otherwise I will have to get another 32” and remove the 43” which will be a shame.. will report back . Again many thanks.
Nick Clements you can make it usable with the monitors you have even if not perfect. I would be tempted to make due until I could afford three matching monitors 55” or larger. It is tough to match up the picture color and contrast on different brand and model TVs . My suggestion is to buy three at Costco or some other place with a liberal return policy. Then test one to be sure there are no performance issues. Some TVs have input lag that is a killer for gaming but not an issue as a TV. Good luck.
Hi Russ, I enjoyed your video, it was great, but I was curious if you know how to have just gauges displayed on a monitor connected to another computer (networked) I've been trying to find a tutorial but so far, no luck. Thanks!
Clayton Olson There are a couple ways. One would be to run a second copy of X-Plane in the other computer and set it up as a external view. I have a video describing that posted on RUclips. The disadvantages are: needs a capable computer; some lag occasionally ; touchscreen support is not great. The best way IMHO is Sim Innovations program Air Manager which solves most of those issues. Read more about it at: www.siminnovations.com
Russ Barlow Thanks Russ! Unfortunately, spending more money isn't an option right now. I was just hoping to do everything within xp. I do have another capable pc however, so I will take a look at that other video you mentioned. take care!
Clayton Olson I hear you man I know it's a hobby it's hard to spend money on it. If your video card is up to the task you can easily create another window on the same computer depending on how many windows you are using for your visual display. If you can afford a second computer and then spending $30 or so for air manager might not seem that bad.
If you mean the stretched image it is using the Nvidia surround system which is available with Nvidia GTX video card. Of course the separate images are a product of XP 11 Multiview options
8:19 make your monitors side by side like its setup 1 big flat monitor. that streching effect will gone when you look that side monitor from angle(you are looking it now straight) it should be flat monitor. you tilted 2 monitor
Jari Sipilainen your point is correct as long as the displayed and actual field of view to the monitors are the same. The problem is that you will get far less total field of view with the same monitors in a flat configuration. Also as the angle gets more oblique to the monitor face most monitors lose intensity (brightness). IMHO a three view setup is superior to the surround method even with the FPS hit.
Not as yet. You can use Nvidia Surround to create a virtual wide single screen made up of the three monitors but it gets stretched and distorted at the outer edges. Right now there is no way to support multiple views on separate monitors. It is on the MSFS to do list though
Russ: I really enjoy your videos and I followed the 3 monitor setup; however, I'm getting only 20 FPS and lots of stuttering. I'm baffled because I have an Alienware R2 with 32GB, GTX 1080 8GB, Win 10 64 Pro. Adjusting the XP11 Graphics settings doesn't change FPS +/- 2. Updated BIOs, Win, X-P, a dozen hours on phone with Alienware & Navida. Very expensive setup is hardly usable. I'm at a loss for ideas to improve FPS.
Have you tried a single monitor or three monitors using Surround? What happens then? Be sure multithreading is OFF in the Graphics settings. changing the graphics settings in XP should result in huge FPS changes
Hi Russ, thanks for your informative video - I think the distortion at the edges are perhaps because the screen is all one view - as such it would be expected to be flat, not angled at the edges. If you were to rearrange your monitors into a straight line, i wonder if it would look better? Because your point of view would not now be at right-angles to the centre of the screen, the image would be foreshortened at the edges, thus compensating for the stretching you're seeing in this video - just my halfpennyworth :-) Cheers, Roger.
jpalm32 True it is less restricted but you can select 3D cockpit view instead of the scenery only view if you want the obstructions just as in the airplane
hi Russ, great video sir, I fallow the steps and I got my set up looking much better However it killing my frame rate but it look much better this is my computer specs WINDOWS 10 HOME Intel(R) core (TM) i7 -6700HQ CPU @2.60hZ 64 BIT any advice ?
Roman Flores I have a 3.5 GHz I seven processor and a GTX 1070 video card. I believe the number of world objects selected is a real frame rate killer for a lower power GPU. Try reducing that to low or minimum and see what happens. I was told that the items on the left side of the Graphics sliders are GPU dependent and those on the right are dependent on the CPU. Your CPU is not as powerful as mine so I suspect you also would have problems displaying large numbers of objects. Unfortunately that does make the scene look especially good and realistic. Let me know how you do.
hey Russ Thanks for your quick respond. well I guess I need a new Computer LOL... so let me ask you this. the i7 part is okay? but the GPU and the CPU are to low? the graphics cars is the GTX1070 the one I have
Thank you, Russ, for the informative video. I have been using Nvidia surround to control my 3 monitor set up. When I switched off surround and started using the separate monitor set up, like you showed in the video, my frame rate nearly doubled. Instead of struggling to get 20fps in Seattle I am getting 37-40fps. Surely, Nvidia surround can't be that power consuming. Any thoughts? BTW, my FOV settings were way different to yours as I like to use the 3D cockpit view. It takes quite a bit of tinkering.
I don't know if you got this working or not since there really isn't any reply. The 45 FOV for me put my face in the instrument panel. I had to adjust that to 60. When you do that, just remember to offset your left and right monitors lateral settings using the FOV setting and you are good to go.
It actually depends on what field of view you have set on the monitors. That is determined by the geometry of your cockpit set up. You need to measure the angle of your field of view from your eye to the edges of the front monitor. If it is, for example, 45°Then you would’ve said the FOV ( field of view ) to that number. Then the left monitor would have a lateral rotation of -45° and the right monitor would be set to a horizontal rotation of +45°. I have a video that explains all of this in a very great detail including mathematical formulas that show how to determine what set up you use. The size of your monitors has something to do with that. Check out the video below and see if it helps you: ruclips.net/video/PjdgOBJ5xkQ/видео.html
Sure as long as you have a monster graphics card and super powerful GPU. Check my videos I did a video not long ago where I attached five monitors to a single computer using XP11.I think it might be cheaper just to network a second computer
Sure you can just create another view window in XP11 that is a close up of the instrument panel. It has a couple disadvantages over using Air Manager. It will be a 3D rendered window for most planes so that means your computer and graphics will be driving 4 HD windows. That is a challenge for most systems. Also if you want touch screen interactivity XP really isn’t user friendly especially for knobs. It definately can be done but since many planes no longer have 2D Cockpits it may cost performance
hi, i see you video about xplane 11 Multi View Setup. in this video you use 3 monitor for instrument. how you do this work. i want add another monitor for show instrument panels. thanks.
Whats graphic card you use for 3 monitors? I have GTX 1080 ti with 3 monitors with surround enable. But when i turn off surround and follow yours configurations my x planes goes to 2/3 fps and stays Impossible to play... Do you know what can be?
Oscar Filho: I have a NVIDIA GTX1070 and get about 30 FPS with moderate settings. X-Plane FPS depends on CPU speed too. Open graphics settings tab and controls on left ( textures, anti-aliasing, etc) are dependent on GPU while those in right(number of objects, show parked aircraft, etc) are CPU dependent. Whichever is most restrictive creates a bottleneck and limits performance.Still something sounds wrong. What CPU do you have? Are your GPU drivers updated? Have you dialed down your graphics settings?
HERNANDO GONZALEZ ECHEVERRI you can use a program called Air Manager to create external panels that can run on another monitor(or computer, Android or iPad). Look as some of my other videos to see more. You can see it at www.siminnovations.com where you can buy it.
I don’t think this applies with the latest updates of windows 10. They have thoughtfully removed the advanced display settings in windows. Thanks Microsoft. Anyone have any fixes?
You can find the same settings in NVIDIA or Radeon settings. if you have installed Graphics software/drivers correctly, just right click on the desktop to access.
That same video will still help you. Generally you want no vertical rotation ( Zero). Do you want your eye height level & centered on the monitors. Again see the video for the details ruclips.net/video/PjdgOBJ5xkQ/видео.html
Best to use one as visual only and lower monitor as instrument panel. Best to use Air Manager for the panel monitor with XPlane pop outs for navigation screens. If you prefer to use XP11 panel view on lower monitor set FOV same for both and lateral offset zero for both. Set the vertical offset to zero for visual monitor but set lower monitor to some negative value for vertical offset. Try -10 at first and adkust until it shoes what you want.
I did a crappy job filming. Since you couldn't read them on the video the field of view and visual offset values the values were as follows.
Field of views were 44.5 for all monitors, due to bezel correction. I figured out a good way to calculate that value unless your bezel is very large. Take the width of the screen (inside between inner edge of the side bezels) and divide it by the total monitor width (including bezels). Multiply this fraction by the uncorrected field of view to get the corrected field of view,
In my case the screen width was 42.5 inches and the total monitor width was 43 inches so:
42.5 / 43 * 45 degrees = 44.4787 degrees ... almost exactly the 44.5 degrees I arrived at by trial and error,
The lateral rotation values were -45 , 0 , +45 for the left, center, and right monitors respectively.
Thank u
You for the video. My question is you showed 1 monitor made from all 3. Then you had 3 monitors in xplane, my video card is GTX 1070 have not been able to do that. Any help please?
Thank you
Yes it was a bit hard to read but you did a fantastic job explaining it. Thanks for your advice. I am trying to decide if I am going to use a projector or multiple screens for the forward views.
I second the question posed by @@captainkneemo3282. The first time you enter settings, it looks like my settings panel. The second time, it shows multiple monitors. So how did it change? I have one monitor that is a different max resolution, and when I try to set the graphics to stretch to all three, it crushes a triple-width XPlane onto my main monitor and I can barely make out the words anymore. Is that normal?
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is there any way to pump in my monitor size (27") (into your formulas) for 3 monitor setup and get the eye distance i need to be away from the monitors at let's say 45 degrees and other angles. I was thinking there was a formula but i looked back at the video a 2nd time and don't see it. I went to the other video as well that is for eye and bezel
Always come back to this since coming back into XP after quite a few years. Very good job on this. We all thank you!
Russ - made some more tweaks last night after reviewing your video for the third time. Again, I'd been using the NVidia Surround multi -monitor setup with FSX Steam and the distortion with the left and right monitors was an issue. I was blown away last night with XPlane 11 once I got my settings right. Even though I'm taken a hit on frame rates, the views were outstanding. Thanks for your help!
Thomas Briscoe Glad to hear you feel the same way I did about it. I now have the monitors each rotated back at 60 degrees and the 180 total FOV is awesome. Being able to look down at the runway while on downwind makes flying circuits(patterns) a snap. Taxiing is also much easier.
Russ, just wondering if in your comment above you changed the settings shown on the video from 45 to 60?
This helped me out. Thank you. This is way better than the surround display! This method also works with 2 monitors, you just need to play around with the settings until you get it right.
Brother, you are the man. This is so appreciated. Your videos target all the things that we simmers want to know and no one else has the insight to make videos to address them. Thanks a bunch and you just got another sub..
Thanks Monte. I just love this stuff... glad you do too.
After fighting to figure this out, your video MADE MY DAY! I have a 3 monitor setup on 32" screens with the forward facing a curved monitor. Saved me a bunch of frustration brother! Thank you!!
Richard I need help when I make a turn the main monitor (middle one turn) looks normal while the other two monitors left and right stay on same view so it looks awkward middle monitor turning two other monitors stay on the same position did you have same issue "
@@elguindy I do not have the same issue. I made a short video showing my settings for x-plane 11 with an example of how it looks on my system. You can follow the link. I'm no pro but between this video and taking a look at my settings maybe it will help.
ruclips.net/video/BPc9e_y7dHg/видео.html
@@elguindy I'm thinking you may need to adjust the visual settings in x-plane regarding the monitors and what each one is assigned to do. Another problem may be how you have the monitors connected to your video card. I have 4 ports. Two monitors are hooked to the Display Port and one on the HDMI port. Good luck!
This was really nicely done for people like me who have no clue what to do. I will definitely copy what you did to fix the imagery. Thanks
Mate that was a awesome tutorial . Got my three monitors looking great and you helped me get rid of that stretched look . Great Job .
Your videos are inspiring me to step up my gaming. I'm a little unconventional. I am building a helicopter-specific flight sim complete with a touchscreen pedestal and panel. If you look at the view from a helicopter you can always see scenery to the side of the panel, so I initially considered a 5-screen set up, with three 60 degree 55" monitors and a smaller (37-43") monitor below the outside monitors. Then I considered turning the two side monitors from horizontal (47.9" high x 27"h) to vertical (27" wide x 47.9" high), and using a slightly smaller front monitor, like a 48" (37.5" wide x 21.1" high). Hum....🤔
Really nicely done, and without boring talk that ruins a lot of videos.
EXCELLENT video! I am an XPlane 10 user and just built a nice PC so I'm monitor shopping now to replace the failing 22" I have. I'm focused on a trifecta of 27" 2560x1440 144hz (2k) and I'll definitely be using your info to help set them up. Subscribed!
Thanks for sharing, I'm enjoying x-plane 11 with moltipy monitors, it's awesome and gives realistic effects
Great tutorial thanks; does this work with projectors and the Xplane professional edge blending functionality?
this is good stuff man. thanks so much. 120 inches of screen is going to look so much better.
Thank you for this instructional this was very helpful, especially your pointer about bezel correction.
Uhhh... a qualification to my comments below. I just watched a more recent video you made: "Multi Monitor Sim: Can X-Plane 11 Vulkan handle it?" and you addressed a lot of what I wrote below, but not all, so I'm still curious. The other video IS a good companion to this one though and also really well done. You do great work Russ. Thank you!
Would love to comment and ask questions on a few things. COMMENT 1: First of all, excellent video. You provided some really outstanding tips and demonstrated the results splendidly! Anyone that gets more hung up on technical glitches (video sync) than they are appreciative of this really very well prepared content... well, maybe I should leave it there. COMMENT 2: I hate how there's not a little 'i' icon near some of these settings that you can hover your mouse over and have a pop-up window that tells you the ramifications for that particular setting. That way, you can be sure which setting is the best one to choose. For example, when choosing between the options "Full Screen Simulator", "Windowed Simulator", "Instructor Operating Station", and "2-D Panel Only"; none of those individual words are hard to understand. However, the specific thing that is meant by "Windowed Simulator", that is, the ramifications of what that selection will create, are anything but intuitive. That's more feedback for X-Plane I suppose and yet another reason I'm thankful to you for making this video! COMMENT 3: I worked in the consumer audio/video market for years and was well aware that pretty much any HD TV ever made had a line scaler built into it. For those of you unfamiliar with what that means, it simply means if the native resolution of the panel is say, 768p but the content is 720p or 1080i, the internal scaler would convert the 1080i or 720p feed to match the panel's native 768p resolution and scanning. The panel itself is only capable of one resolution and one way of scanning. It has a FIXED number of pixels and scans either progressively or in an interlaced fashion. So that conversion work has to be done in the line scaler before it reaches the panel. QUESTION 1: Comment 3 is really a preface to this multi-part question. Due to flight sim performance challenges, I always wondered if computer monitors also possessed line scalers, just like consumer TVs. If it's in the budget, it just makes sense to use 4k monitors, but choose 1080p as the output resolution from the computer and let the monitors do the heavy lifting of converting the 1080p signal to 4k internally, so as not to destroy frame rate or create ridiculous amounts of stutter coming out of the GPU. You still get a pseudo 4k result. Then when high end CPU & GPU performance become more affordable, just upgrade those parts to get the full 4k performance along with great rendering. No need to replace the monitors. So my question is, when you select resolution in the X-Plane settings, is that setting implemented at the output of the X-Plane software itself before it's ever sent to the GPU so as to not overwork the GPU? Or is the X-Plane software merely changing those settings in the GPU itself? Last question connected with this. If computer monitors do NOT line scale, does that mean that line scaling is still being done at the GPU, making it work harder because it's line scaling 1080p content up to 4k? QUESTION 2: I believe there are quite a few changes that have occurred since you made this video. For example, I think your video predates "Knobster". Also, NVIDIA has rolled out some higher performance GPUs in the form of the RTX 2070 and RTX3080 that might be around the same price as the GTX1070 was back in 2016. A couple of other changes are X-Plane's switch to Vulkan and they also claim that their software is now simpler to setup for newbies, but still preserves higher level settings for advanced users. Maybe that means that if you select the number of monitors and resolution that it will change other settings like texture, scenery, etc, for optimal performance, based on the GPU you're using? So, my question is... at the risk of asking you to do a lot of work... is this video worth re-shooting based on all those changes? (It's maybe worth mentioning Honeycomb products also, in case their new hardware results in an increase in processing power demands.) I'll just say a hearty thank you once more! I've added this video to my favorites because the day is coming when I'll need to refer to it as a valuable resource. All the very best Russ!!!
Hey Russ - this is a great piece of work - and is just what I wanted to know. Thank you so much! :)
William... as of now no but rumors are that that may be coming in an upgrade of XP11. Some other of the work is dome n the CPU though, like reflections, so multiple graphics cards may not solve every performance issue but could go a long way.
I. on 11.5b4 (beta)... yes hopefully they fix that. am only using one graphics card where they all plug into it (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070) thanks!!
Hi there Russ Barlow. I can see that I am a late arrival to this thread so here's hoping you will respond to my question. . . .
This question is put forward because of the dialog between you and Cessnaflightsim 10 months ago. I read that and paused, then a ray of hope began to glimmer!
First of all some background information to give better context to my inquiry:-
I am presently running P3Dv4 from a 'Host PC' with two RTX 2070's driving 7 x 27" monitors that display scenery views, giving a total of 315° FOV. There is an 8th monitor connected to the host PC that I use to display the ATC window and Active Sky. Using the app called SpaceDesk, I have wirelessly connected a 9th display (a 7" Notepad) which shows the pop-out GPS very nicely. This PC is fairly heavily loaded up as you can see and the frame rates are fairly low (
In short yes that would be possible. I would suggest having the two front monitors on the same computer just in case there is any network latency. The front view is most noticeable. The views assigned to each graphics card need not be contiguous.
@@rbarlow thanks VERY much for responding to my question. What you say comes as good news. Awesome news in fact!
Could I prevail upon your generousity to expand a little on the theme of 'separated' as opposed to 'contiguous' assignments of views?
One further question - When I set my sim up with three monitors as a single 'view' with NVIDIA surround I see the expected result replete with distortion at the extremities. However, when I present the three monitors to XP11 as seperate views, the right hand monitor is ignored. It seems to be acknowledged, as Monitor 2, but no settings are exposed for me to adjust offsets etc. Any ideas about how to address that? All three monitors are identical and their resolutions are all set as 1920 x 1080.
Rush iam using X plane 11 And i have now 3 50” TV screen for my homecockpit but i can not set them ok. How you can help me with this? I Need to set my 3 screeens ✈️
My email is chito.luna@hotmail.com in case we can talk vía email thanks
Thank you for this video. I had the same issue and now it looks way better.
Great videos. Thanks so much for your help!
Hi Russ.... best explanation I have seen thus far. Great job! Quick question. I have a 27" main monitor and a left and right monitor 24". I there a way to get thos lined up? I have the main monitor in front and the 2 monitors (left) and (right) angled approx 45 degrees on each side. the edges of each monitor to screen are about 1 1/2" (think that's the bezel). Thoughts??
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for the video Russ. Do you know where I can find the file that records the multiview settings/configs?
Great info, thanks for putting together a video, it helps me quite a bit.
Te hago una consulta, cuando cerras el simulador y lo volves abrir tenes que volver a configurar todo de nuevo? por que me pasa eso tengo que configurar monitor por monitor me vuelvo loco para hacer eso cada vez que vuelo. quiero prender fuego todo ya...
Great video, excellent setup and information. Thanks!
sir russ , respect
Hi Russ, what do you think of having 3 27" monitors 1440 - is that way too small? I would really like larger monitors so I can see the smaller text on glass screens like for example in the TBM 900 with the G1000, the text on those dang G1000's is just so dang small. My eyes aren't what they used to be. So would you recommend going 4K and go up to like a 34 or 36" monitor. I was thinking of making the middle screen huge and then the two side screens 27's (1440) or i could reduce the resolution on the two sides to 1080 so that they would run faster and then the middle one would be the huge 43" 4K or maybe 36" 4K so that the two 27's wouldn't look so awkward next to them. So in review. Left and Right 27's, (2k), then the middle a big honcho 4K at whatever screen size you think i would be able to see clearly on the TBM 900 with the G1000 glass cockpit. Or a Skyhawk II with G1000 glass cockpit, or a Jet Liner (commercial). SO anyway, just give me your thoughs, i need to be able to see small G1000 text
Do you know whether the X-Plane 11 multi-view setup will allow X-Plane to run each view through a separate graphics card? In other words, separate graphics cards (not SLI bridged) drive the left, center and right views/displays. I understand that XP does not support SLI, so that is not what I'm suggesting. I'm wondering whether a high-end CPU, coupled with three high-end GPUs (e.g., NVidia GTX 1080s) in a single computer, each driving a separate monitor configured in this multi-view setup could achieve higher frame rates or equal frame rates with higher resolution monitors. Or, is this incompatible with the way XP 11 addresses the multi-view setup? I know this can be done running multiple networked computers, but I wonder whether this multi-view setup would allow this approach in a single computer. I am concerned that X-Plane 11 might not recognize the separate GPUs and will always try to output the multiple views through the main view graphics card. (I don't have this rig yet or know anyone who does, so I can't experiment.) Thanks for any insights.
Russ, new xplane user here but your videos are very helpful. I noticed you said you are running air manager pushing the touch panels on a separate computer. How exactly is the xplane data getting to the air manager software? Also, what specs would that computer require?
Great overview of what X plane 11 is capable of. I'm running version 9.3 with the Elise software on 5, 30 inch 2560x 1600 monitors in portrait. (three x980ti) Get around 30 fps with that setup. Using Elise with 10.4 fps is too low to be usable. I use both a slaved version of X Plane on a second computer and Air Manager for instrument panels.
bigc208 I have 90 1/2 Titan X's
Bruh this is clean! Ive been trying to get my mind right and find a decent setup for the crib. Thanks for the info!
Is NVIDIA surround span should be enabled or not? I’m having issues stikk
Not an expert in any way. But I think the reason why your image was so stretched out with the Nvidia Surround option was because you inputted that 135 degree view. I believe if you would have left it at default it would have been just fine. The Surround mode should already calculate the appropriate field of view, so by you adding extra field of view input it stretched the image out. That's my theory of course. I don't have a three monitor setup.
Either way, you have a really great setup!
With a 34" wide center screen and two 27" side screens, is there a different setting to use? The left and center screens look fine, but the right screen is only half used.
Hi Russ, thank you for your videos. Can I ask you what monitors you use?
Hi my freind, would a 1080ti be able to run this 46 inch multi tv panel at 1080p resolution with a a 9700k or 9900k in Xplane 11?
I know it's a bit late but I'm thinking of going down this route for my setup and could really do with knowing before I start spending.
Earned a sub from me and thanks for these videos, excellent.
Great !!!! Thank you very much for such video!!!!
Russ, can you tell me where on your CPU or second c9,putter your touchscreen monitors are connected.
What would be helpful as well is if you posted your computer system specs like how many gcards you have to support these monitors and computing power.
Hows the frame rate when flying?
This was made over three years ago when X-Plane11 was just released and multiple views first were available. I have a recent video that may have more data that is current and includes Vulkan graphics improvements. It is looking at running 4 and even 5 monitors on a single computer but it may be helpful. Look at this:
ruclips.net/video/ZOdI__BMat4/видео.html
Russ, this is such a great video. I know you did this like two years ago but I was wondering if you have the TV's on conference room stands or on tables? I watched your other video on monitors and eye positions but trying to figure out the best way to hold them in place. It will be three 55 inch 4K TV's with a RealSimGear G1000 and StayLevel 172 Cockpit frame to hold them.
thank you for your quick response Russ. I am getting around 16 to 20 frames when I take off out of klga. my specs are AMD Radeon 8320 I just purchased and Nvidia GTX 1060 with 6 Gigabytes of DDR 5 I have a 750 watt power supply 16 gigabytes of DDR3 RAM but I am only running one 32 inch screen and 217 inch on both sides so considering it really isn't that bad I will definitely try your idea of lowering the World objects but I have to say I have been in FSX guy for 20 years this X-Plane 11 is definitely growing on me talk to you soon my friend
gemster18 so First of all,it doesn't exist an AMD Radeon 8320, second I would do an upgrade to AMD Ryzen CPU or a Intel CPU. And I would take 32gb of ram.
Hi Russ I'm a bit late to the game I know. I am a pvt, inst rated pilot who lost my medical, vision issues. Trying to set up similar to your 5 monitors my 2 lower monitors for air manager on the same pc as the sim, would I still use the same settings you show thanks, well done by the way
Afternoon Russ, I am a former RW pilot as well. I am a little late to this party after a bit of a hiatus. I appreciate your postings and as imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I am attempting your multi monitor setup at this time. As the future makes faster components available, I am utilizing three 43" TVs in concert with 2 machines, an older unit which I will need to Upgrade and pair it with a new one just acquired from XforcePC. Just waiting on some things to arrive and calibrate peripherals at this time. I am looking forward to my learning curve plateauing, LOL, but enjoy all of your videos. Question: What are specs on your machine in the Multi monitor Vulkan single setup? BTW, to join this "club" I convinced my wife that this deal was cheaper than a quarter share of an SR 22T.
Thanks a lot for this clear and detailed explanation! Will this work for (three) projectors on a curved screen as well? I'm currently planing to set up a 220-270 degree curved screen with three projectors. Projectors need to do warping and edge blending. "Warpalizer" - as far as I know - does need NVIDIA Surround to get warping and blending working. If NVIDIA Surround is switched off, Warpalizer can not do its job. Does anybody know how this could be solved with three separate screens in X-Plane? Can any other warping and blending software handle this? Which one? Any recommendations are very appreciated.
Thank you for this very helpful video. I folllowed your instructions in the video and everything works great. There is on area that I can't seem to get fixed. When I start up XPlane 11 all three monitors are displaying forward views with scenery as set in the graphic settings. However, when I pan left or right I am in the cockpit looking out of the cockpit. In other words I can pan left or right outside of the cockpit. When I return to the forward view it is nothing but scenery. Is there something I missed.
Thanks you very informative video. We all know XP11 is not optimized yet but unfortunately the fps drop is huge (25-35%). I'm on 5 flat plane 5 HD monitors setup with TrackIR (AMD Fury) so this setup will certainly will kill my framerate.
You can, of course, run more than one networked computer to support all those monitors but it requires an additional copy of X-Plane for each computer. I only have a GTX1070 gpu but it seems that 3 HD monitors with reduced settings is about all I can manage with a decent FPS.
Hi Russ
I'm using 3 55inch tvs for my setup and want to have a 180 degree view. Can you recommend the fov for each monitor and lateral offset?
Thx Lee
I ask you a question, when you close the simulator and open it again, do you have to reconfigure everything again? why does that happen to me I have to configure monitor by monitor I go crazy to do that every time I fly. I want to set fire to everything...
Hey, nice video. But I have one question. How did you manage that the 3 monitors become one monitor in the windows settings?
I want to know aswell
Same
..tnx Russ for your introduction, other than "Educating" us it gives some ideas about XP-11 capabilities.
However, this setup is heavy on Frames & I think that if you switch and apply the setup to VC you may bring any decent Rig to its knees, must be away to incorporate XP network capabilities and distribute the load to more than one NOD, like the Center View in Client Rig & the 2 sides Views to the Master Rig, or any other combinations ..... IMHO, VC Mode is way more realistic at list when it comes to GA Airplanes
Cheers
Russ I set up my monitors with the settings you suggested. The monitors are aligned perfectly! Thank you. However, the instrument panel covers both the center screen and part of the right screen and appears to be enlarged. I am not able to toggle down to see the trim wheel or breaker panels. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
How do you get the monitors to show up. Need to show us that step before we can work the geometry. The geometry is the easy part.Getting monitor 2 and monitor 3 to show up is another task that is not explained. Please can you explain how to get the other two monitors to show up so that I can work the numbers.
Show up in Windows or in X-Plane
If the latter there is a scroll bar at the bottom of the window that lets you mover right to see other attached monitors. It isn’t obvious how it is laid out
looking for someone to setup my flight simulator. I have a Honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant. need to have the correct assignments to both devices. I am running both Xplane-11 and MSFS 2020. I am in Arizona. Any suggestions?
Thank you. This was very helpful !
Russ, which brand/model tv/monitors are you using for this?
Visio 49” 4K several years old. I suggest you look at the Website www.rtings.com/
Main things to look for is side input lag, viewing angle, motion blur. Look at info on that website to see gaming tv use comparisons.
Hi Russ, I would like to have a setup like yours here, what kind of monitor or TV should I use? Thank you for your videos
Russ what a beautiful setup....great job. just out of curiosity what are your computer specs? I can't believe your getting 45 frames! I can't get passed 22.. merry Christmas Sir. V1........ROTATE 🛫
My 3 visual system is an i7-4770K 3.5 Ghz with an Nvidia GTX1070. I have found the most important setting for FPS is the "Number of World Objects" selected. In urban areas and highly detailed airports my FPS can drop to the high teens. With the same settings in rural areas it can return to 40-50. I have found using Medium is probably the best compromise for me since I am hooked on the three view setup. As a retired RL Pilot, I prefer smoother motion(higher FPS) and the accurate views to the more realistic ground objects. I suppose when the nvidia GTX 1280 or 1380 are available I will have both (unless X-Plane 12 is launched by then) :) . Seems like Laminar is always pushing the limits of the available technology...and that's what I like about them.
Dear Sir, Thanks for the awesome video.Question please, I am running three 32 in monitors, I am clueless on what Air Manager is or does. In your thoughts, is this necessary or a luxury? And what do I need to purchase? Cost is a issue for me, as I am a Airport Firefighter on a limited budget! :) Just setting up a sim from scratch and to be honest,already have went WAY over what I had budgeted! Also please, what is your recommendation for a yoke, pedals, etc..My main purpose of sim is to get comfortable with, probably a 172 as I about to begin my quest for a Private ticket..Also this will give me a better understanding of my job....Thank you for your advice and time...or if better for you,I could give you my email address?? Be safe..Roger
Hi Russ! I´ve had trying to distribute the cockpit (toliss, Flight Factor, etc) through 03 monitors. But it´s impossible. Is there some restrictions from XPlane about this?
need some help guys. I have set 3 monitors but they are sort of moving individually .
Great video Russ. I'm running FSX Steam with 3 / 27" Asus monitors and NVidia Surround. The distortion and warping on the left and right monitors are frustrating and the multi-monitor option with XPlane 11 might be the fix that I'm looking for. Did you disable the Nvidia Surround Option in order to set-up the 3 individual monitors. Also, I used the XPlane demo and when flying the Cessna or Boeing 737-800, the forward 3D cockpit view put me too close to the instruments. With FSX I had to tweak a line within the configuration file along with Ezdok in order to achieve various distances within the internal and external views. How would I make the adjustments with XPlane 11. Thanks.
Thomas Briscoe - happened to me. I adjusted the fov in the graphics option.
Thomas B is right ... just adjust the FOV. Check out my other video on Multi View Geometry and Bezel Correction as it may further explain FOV
Russ
Why am I getting black areas, like a silhouette, on the right and left monitors? Also, what CPU are you using here? I'm only getting about 12 FPS with moderate settings.
Thanks for sharing. How can you setup and link two gaming computers.
X-Plane allows two copies to network via Ethernet or WiFi if they are on the same network
Now that I have my 3 monitors setup perfectly how do I save this setup? It is so aggregating when I close out of X-Plane 11 only to find that my custom multi-screen setup has defaulted back to one monitor.
X-Plane will remember the set up as long as you have all the monitors connected and powered when you boot up. If anything has changed in your displays it will go back to the default setup. I use three TVs and if I don’t turn them on before starting my computer it thinks they are not there and screws up my setup. Let me know if this doesn’t help.
I saw another video on you tube where they use the program SRWE. Do you think that this program can solve the distortion problem when using 3 monitors?
Not sure about SRWE but look at this fly.elise-ng.net/
I wiki research SRWE
Fantastic video! Love your set up as well. I was wondering how you have 3 screens and also have another 3 screens for your air manager gauges. How did you do this as my computer only let's me have 4 screens connected at a time.
Cessnaflightsim I was running two computers. One powerful one for the simulator and scenery and an older one to run Panels on Air Manager. If you want to incorporate X-Plane pop out windows(G530;G1000) into your Air Manager Layouts then Air Manager must be running on the same computer as X-Plane. The solution is to have a master copy of X-Plane running on a computer to run Air Manager and a second copy of X-Plane on another computer running as an External visual for the three scenery views.
@@rbarlow thanks so much for that! Looks like I need to buy another computer lol. So I need two copies of xplane, is that correct?
good morning friend, how did you manage to put only the instruments on the smaller monitor? I've been trying for weeks and I can't. can you inform me? thank you!
Extremely helpful, thank you!
So X-Plane had this support 5 years ago and the all singing all dancing FS2020 still doesn't have it.
Yep. X-Plane also has hand controller support in VR and the ability to set ceiling and visibility for weather and a very accurate flight model and…. Well you get the idea. MSFS has great scenery but for cockpit builders and serious pilots it is far behind. No doubt MS has the ability to add all this stuff but if they want to support all features in Xbox too, it could limit how far they can go. Not to mention there is probably more $$ to be made as a game vs. a simulator
Approximately how much desk space (width and depth) is needed to duplicate this setup?
Russ what brand TV are you using and are there any you would recommend want to set 3 up
Great video. I have just setup my Xplane 11 home cockpit with 3 1080p TVs. Only problem I have is getting my settings right. I have a 43” in the centre and two 32” tvs for the two side ones. They are both angled at 60 degrees, and my viewpoint is 170cm from front screen. I seem to be going round in circles changing the settings around.... any help would be much appreciated...
Nick I have never considered using mismatched monitors on both sides. If you set them up with the same FOV as the larger monitor the image size will not match up. Try this: to make the side monitors look the sam size and match up with the 43" try setting the side monitors to a smaller FOV proportionate to the realitive size of the monitors. For example if the center is 43" and sides are 32" 32/43= 0.744. If your center is FOV 60 degrees, the set the sides to 60 X 0.744= 45 degrees. Then make sure the vertical centers of all three monitors are aligned since there is no way to adjust the vertical offset, only the angle. Then set your side monitors back so their centers are perpendicular to your ideal eye position for the center monitor. Not sure it will work perfectly but best I can do off the top of my head.
Russ Barlow Thankyou for the quick reply, I will give it a try. Otherwise I will have to get another 32” and remove the 43” which will be a shame.. will report back . Again many thanks.
Nick Clements you can make it usable with the monitors you have even if not perfect. I would be tempted to make due until I could afford three matching monitors 55” or larger. It is tough to match up the picture color and contrast on different brand and model TVs . My suggestion is to buy three at Costco or some other place with a liberal return policy. Then test one to be sure there are no performance issues. Some TVs have input lag that is a killer for gaming but not an issue as a TV. Good luck.
Great video - thanks!
In your opinion, what size would you recommend for the two touch screens? Application would be for the exact same thing you did.
21-24" is fine especially if two are used. I much prefer capacitive touch screens over IR since the face is glass and flat and no gaps to catch dirt.
Hi Russ, I enjoyed your video, it was great, but I was curious if you know how to have just gauges displayed on a monitor connected to another computer (networked) I've been trying to find a tutorial but so far, no luck. Thanks!
Clayton Olson There are a couple ways. One would be to run a second copy of X-Plane in the other computer and set it up as a external view. I have a video describing that posted on RUclips. The disadvantages are: needs a capable computer; some lag occasionally ; touchscreen support is not great. The best way IMHO is Sim Innovations program Air Manager which solves most of those issues. Read more about it at: www.siminnovations.com
Russ Barlow Thanks Russ! Unfortunately, spending more money isn't an option right now. I was just hoping to do everything within xp. I do have another capable pc however, so I will take a look at that other video you mentioned. take care!
Clayton Olson I hear you man I know it's a hobby it's hard to spend money on it. If your video card is up to the task you can easily create another window on the same computer depending on how many windows you are using for your visual display. If you can afford a second computer and then spending $30 or so for air manager might not seem that bad.
how did you set up the older bendix navcom? I only see glass options with x plane 11 and it's frustrating. thnx in advance
How do you like Xplane 11 so far? Thanks for doing this video
If you mean the stretched image it is using the Nvidia surround system which is available with Nvidia GTX video card. Of course the separate images are a product of XP 11 Multiview options
I would use the x11 option.
8:19 make your monitors side by side like its setup 1 big flat monitor. that streching effect will gone when you look that side monitor from angle(you are looking it now straight) it should be flat monitor. you tilted 2 monitor
Jari Sipilainen your point is correct as long as the displayed and actual field of view to the monitors are the same. The problem is that you will get far less total field of view with the same monitors in a flat configuration. Also as the angle gets more oblique to the monitor face most monitors lose intensity (brightness). IMHO a three view setup is superior to the surround method even with the FPS hit.
bei stink normalen 1920 hättest dir die drei 4k tvs sparen können die kosten mehr als ein Samsung C49J890DKU, LED-Monitor
How you did you place the instruments in a separated monitor? It´s a plugin?
I think is air manager
Hey Russ, I have one question, Can you do this also in MSFS2020?
Not as yet. You can use Nvidia Surround to create a virtual wide single screen made up of the three monitors but it gets stretched and distorted at the outer edges. Right now there is no way to support multiple views on separate monitors. It is on the MSFS to do list though
Russ: I really enjoy your videos and I followed the 3 monitor setup; however, I'm getting only 20 FPS and lots of stuttering. I'm baffled because I have an Alienware R2 with 32GB, GTX 1080 8GB, Win 10 64 Pro. Adjusting the XP11 Graphics settings doesn't change FPS +/- 2. Updated BIOs, Win, X-P, a dozen hours on phone with Alienware & Navida. Very expensive setup is hardly usable. I'm at a loss for ideas to improve FPS.
Have you tried a single monitor or three monitors using Surround? What happens then? Be sure multithreading is OFF in the Graphics settings. changing the graphics settings in XP should result in huge FPS changes
Hi Russ, thanks for your informative video - I think the distortion at the edges are perhaps because the screen is all one view - as such it would be expected to be flat, not angled at the edges. If you were to rearrange your monitors into a straight line, i wonder if it would look better? Because your point of view would not now be at right-angles to the centre of the screen, the image would be foreshortened at the edges, thus compensating for the stretching you're seeing in this video - just my halfpennyworth :-) Cheers, Roger.
Thank you bro
Great job! My question is, how does the screen views compare to actual cockpit view? It seem your getting substantially more vertical view
jpalm32 True it is less restricted but you can select 3D cockpit view instead of the scenery only view if you want the obstructions just as in the airplane
hi Russ, great video sir, I fallow the steps and I got my set up looking much better However it killing my frame rate but it look much better
this is my computer specs
WINDOWS 10 HOME
Intel(R) core (TM) i7 -6700HQ CPU @2.60hZ
64 BIT
any advice ?
Roman Flores I have a 3.5 GHz I seven processor and a GTX 1070 video card. I believe the number of world objects selected is a real frame rate killer for a lower power GPU. Try reducing that to low or minimum and see what happens. I was told that the items on the left side of the Graphics sliders are GPU dependent and those on the right are dependent on the CPU. Your CPU is not as powerful as mine so I suspect you also would have problems displaying large numbers of objects. Unfortunately that does make the scene look especially good and realistic. Let me know how you do.
hey Russ Thanks for your quick respond. well I guess I need a new Computer LOL...
so let me ask you this. the i7 part is okay?
but the GPU and the CPU are to low?
the graphics cars is the GTX1070 the one I have
Thank you, Russ, for the informative video. I have been using Nvidia surround to control my 3 monitor set up. When I switched off surround and started using the separate monitor set up, like you showed in the video, my frame rate nearly doubled. Instead of struggling to get 20fps in Seattle I am getting 37-40fps. Surely, Nvidia surround can't be that power consuming. Any thoughts? BTW, my FOV settings were way different to yours as I like to use the 3D cockpit view. It takes quite a bit of tinkering.
I also like 3d cockpit view as I only have three 32 inch monitors..Can I ask what exactly you did to get best outcome? Thanks
I don't know if you got this working or not since there really isn't any reply. The 45 FOV for me put my face in the instrument panel. I had to adjust that to 60. When you do that, just remember to offset your left and right monitors lateral settings using the FOV setting and you are good to go.
What should the lateral settings be, I see mostly the left wing?
It actually depends on what field of view you have set on the monitors. That is determined by the geometry of your cockpit set up. You need to measure the angle of your field of view from your eye to the edges of the front monitor. If it is, for example, 45°Then you would’ve said the FOV ( field of view ) to that number. Then the left monitor would have a lateral rotation of -45° and the right monitor would be set to a horizontal rotation of +45°. I have a video that explains all of this in a very great detail including mathematical formulas that show how to determine what set up you use. The size of your monitors has something to do with that. Check out the video below and see if it helps you:
ruclips.net/video/PjdgOBJ5xkQ/видео.html
Thanks for the video. Although it could probably be 20 mins shorter.
how could be possible have even more monitors for example 5 or 6 ?
Sure as long as you have a monster graphics card and super powerful GPU. Check my videos I did a video not long ago where I attached five monitors to a single computer using XP11.I think it might be cheaper just to network a second computer
Is there a way to get the instrument panels on 2nd monitor, other than using Air Manager??
Sure you can just create another view window in XP11 that is a close up of the instrument panel. It has a couple disadvantages over using Air Manager. It will be a 3D rendered window for most planes so that means your computer and graphics will be driving 4 HD windows. That is a challenge for most systems. Also if you want touch screen interactivity XP really isn’t user friendly especially for knobs. It definately can be done but since many planes no longer have 2D Cockpits it may cost performance
Russ Barlow, Sorry, I was trying to get FW HUD on one display & instrument panel on other, is it possible?
hi, i see you video about xplane 11 Multi View Setup. in this video you use 3 monitor for instrument. how you do this work. i want add another monitor for show instrument panels. thanks.
Mohsen Fazelinia The three monitors with the instrument panels are run on a second computer using Air Manager by Sim Innovations.
thanks, do you work with sim-avionics. it can better than air manager or not?
how did you get your tvs to act as one big one
Whats graphic card you use for 3 monitors?
I have GTX 1080 ti with 3 monitors with surround enable.
But when i turn off surround and follow yours configurations my x planes goes to 2/3 fps and stays Impossible to play...
Do you know what can be?
Oscar Filho: I have a NVIDIA GTX1070 and get about 30 FPS with moderate settings. X-Plane FPS depends on CPU speed too. Open graphics settings tab and controls on left ( textures, anti-aliasing, etc) are dependent on GPU while those in right(number of objects, show parked aircraft, etc) are CPU dependent. Whichever is most restrictive creates a bottleneck and limits performance.Still something sounds wrong. What CPU do you have? Are your GPU drivers updated? Have you dialed down your graphics settings?
Hello, how do you put the instruments in the screen? I have 3 monitors and I would like to put a screen with the flight instruments. Regards
HERNANDO GONZALEZ ECHEVERRI you can use a program called Air Manager to create external panels that can run on another monitor(or computer, Android or iPad). Look as some of my other videos to see more. You can see it at www.siminnovations.com where you can buy it.
@@rbarlow thank you very much russ
I don’t think this applies with the latest updates of windows 10. They have thoughtfully removed the advanced display settings in windows. Thanks Microsoft. Anyone have any fixes?
You can find the same settings in NVIDIA or Radeon settings. if you have installed Graphics software/drivers correctly, just right click on the desktop to access.
Thanks very much
Sorry, I meant vertical rotation offset?
That same video will still help you. Generally you want no vertical rotation ( Zero). Do you want your eye height level & centered on the monitors. Again see the video for the details
ruclips.net/video/PjdgOBJ5xkQ/видео.html
Hai. I have only 2 monitor, how to setup in xplane 11.
Best to use one as visual only and lower monitor as instrument panel. Best to use Air Manager for the panel monitor with XPlane pop outs for navigation screens. If you prefer to use XP11 panel view on lower monitor set FOV same for both and lateral offset zero for both. Set the vertical offset to zero for visual monitor but set lower monitor to some negative value for vertical offset. Try -10 at first and adkust until it shoes what you want.
@@rbarlow can i use 2 monitor for Visual front window Sir? For Instrument, i have ready panel.