The second part! I shall likely upload a different video next week before I get to part 3 onward to test out staggering releases a bit more, but, I hope you enjoy this, still! If you enjoyed this part and want to see the others please do Like, Comment and Subscribe, it all helps! My thanks for watching!
I am amazed at the amount of time and forethought Khorne dedicated to this. Normally he comes across as a straightforward psychopath, I never pictured him as such a capable tempter.
limiting a chaos god to be an "unfathomably powerful brute" would kill all the prospects for exciting stories, it could easily turn boring and repetitive. sure he is violence incarnate, but we are talking about a lovecraftian level of existence, even the dullest of them has to be incomprehensibly intelligent/deceptive
@@kespec Though i have to question about your though of Khorne about deceptive can you explain more? cause i imagine it to be more in line to Tzeench and Slaanesh
He was trying to corrupt a primarch dude had to bring his A game. Plus you gotta remember Khorne's vast gestalt pysonic warp entity he mainly wants blood death and skulls but he's also far more intelligent than any mortal coul ever hope to be plus his thought processes would drive a human insane think not just on vast galaxy wide scales but also forwards and backwards through time.
After listening to this it makes sense that Roboute becomes Lord Commander after the Siege, he didn't want to do it anymore, he wanted to go out and fight.
"My brother, Dorn, has only ever known cages - duty, honour, strength. And for every bar of every cage that has been placed around him by someone else he has made those bars stronger. He has made his cages smaller and stronger until to spread his wings would rip him apart." The Khan understood his brother better than anyone else.
That’s the thing….. none of them did. It’s what made Peter turbo so angry. The ONLY thing he wanted to do was build. But instead all he ever got to do was tear things down.
@@cheeseex4322 And when Pertarabo finally had a chance to build something, Dorn charged in head first to tear it down. Probably very cathartic for Dorn if not sensible.
@@cheeseex4322 You say it like it vindicates Perty in any way. Many of the Primarchs made something of their lot in their lives, despite their paucity of choice. Instead he let it break him and drove him to do things in the most drudging, self-destructive way. Everyone noticed how Perty and his legion did things in the most difficult way possible out of spite.
I think that this really illustrates how sinister the Ruinous Powers are. One would think that Slaanesh or Tzeentch would be the ones to be in the mind promising what you desire or aspire to. Khorne can be just as tempting. He knows that some souls need to be honest with their darker nature, not simply with what they *believe* they want, but what they *know* they want in the deepest reaches of their being. For Khorne, slaughter in battle is pure and honest, that violence is the most basic means of survival in fallen universe. So, he uses that honesty to appeal to the soul. This makes him the eldest and most powerful of the Chaos Gods.
He is the strongest chaos god for a reason. He wants Rogal to be honest with what he wants. He chose to carve away every part of Dorn, until only honest instict remains, until isolation and loneliness wear away conscious thought. Dorn is tired, damn tired of the life he lived. However, he was raised in Inwit, where focus, duty, a logical mind and an unyielding spirit are the core values of his people. His heart remembers that and its his greatest defense against chaos.
Okej warp stuff a side. But i cant help but fell that Khorn i getting realy annoyd about hawing to go about it this way. Just waiting and here Dorn listing of facts for a few centurys must realy be starting to geting old. 😂
@@wayfaringmrwolf366 I imagine he can fast forward time in that place if he chooses to. I picture it like he's fast-forwarding a vhs tape. "Nope still listing facts." >>----->> "Come on".
It's no wonder really that Khorne would want the likes of Dorn as a champion. How satisfying it would be for Khorne to wear down such a monolithic will, seizing the moment to corner him in the perfect place to break the unbreakable and, in doing so, create possibly the most horrifying champion of chaos imaginable...
Honestly Khorne must be seething that he got someone as relatively useless as Angron as his champion. Dorn or Sanguineous would have been better Khorne pawns
I like that the power of Khorne is a function of how long it takes him to wear down your will. If you give in immediately, then your blessings are small and you are just cannon fodder. If it takes decades to wear you down, then you get the ultimate blessings. But I guess it comes out in war, where the most powerful demons have to wait a long time before they get to participate.
What about corn starch, an essential ingredient in their composition ? What if instead you want a snack, like a corn dog ? What about corn bread as a part of a balanced breakfast? There are many varieties of corn products - FACT
One of my favourite parts of end and the death. Khorne trying to corrupt Dorn was just so morbidly fascinating to me. I hope they bring this up if he returns or it gets referenced in scouring books. Even a primarch must have some major PTSD after an ordeal like that.
Now THERE would be a twist for you. Imagine if the reason he ultimately disappeared is... the Iron Cage and his continued failures finally got to him. Khorne, after all that time, finally got to him, and he finally fell. I don't think it'll play out that way, but it would be a very dark twist to his story that might make more sense after this scene.
He is rogal dorn Master of the wall leader of the imperial fist, lord of the planet inwitt,Master of the phalanx! He is rogal dorn my brother! And he is the preatorian and he will stand vigil unmovable and strong will it!
@@LordMuffinToken so now you said that I am totally gonna rip off that ID and set up a channel where Gilbert Godfrey he voices some of the more grim dark moments. I think it’ll go over well that the tone should be spot on.
@@Cthulhuforabettertomorrow i have the perfect start. The inquisitor, one of the first, ultra goofy books. Gottfried talking about genestealer pussy is fucking wild. But on the other hand would be hellsreach a great start. Im going to die on this planet (shouts n gillbert)
This always fascinates me. Basically Khorne took advantage of Rogal’s longing for the peace and simplicity you find in a fight. Anyone that has ever participated in competitive combat of any kind knows the lure of this. Everything else just goes away and it’s just the fight. Big E should have put him in golden gloves like my Grandpa did me 😂
Mike stared in disbelief as his hands fell off. From them rose millions of tiny maggots. Maggots? Maggots. Maggots. Maggots. Maggots... all over the floor of the post office in Leytonstone. -Nurgle, probably.
Great video 💥. It would be so cool if there was a scene like Dorn was about to lose it after a century but his grandfather's soul showed up and said to him, "calm down, my boy. Focus, you are almost there" 😅
I mean this as whole-heartedly as I can: _I sincerely hope that GW_ *NEVER* _asks you to do anything for them. Ever._ Those of this community understand what I mean by that _(Lookin' at you Astartes, and Tyber Phortghese)_
Everyone likes to think they know someone's gimmick. "Blood for the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull throne." By that basis, you assume that's all there is to it. Other people tell you what he's like and what he seeks. But only the mightiest sits on a throne of bone. To be mighty, you have to excel at all the qualities that make you a warrior. Rage is power, but untempered, it's as much a hindrance as a power. Thought is a capability. Knowing where best to apply the axe, is as important as killing the thing you're fighting. Cleverness is important, because your armor won't always defend you from your enemy. You have to outthink the men in the bunker, by going through the wall, or get behind them. Allure. Every God has its allure, even in real life. Odin offers purpose, just as God does. Khorne is a strategist, a fighter, a warrior, a king. What good king can't make tempting offers to an unloved, but partially capable child? The emperor sure couldn't. That's a testament to Khorne, as much as Rogal. One, for his strategy. Two, for his loyalty.
Your videos are fucking flames man, for the love of GOD please don’t stop making them! Your legitimately top 5 best warhammer channels on RUclips and your gonna blow up
Very strange dynamic, Khorne employing a scheme worthy of Tzeench to defeat the great Praetorian, Khorne once again proves that he is pathetic and Dorn wins again.
Tzeentch would likely have too many moving parts for his plan. Khorne on the other hand is being rather simple. He is using Dorn to defeat himself. His doubts, his stresses, the lies, the truths. Khorne is simply using Dorn and time. War changes people, some people break in fear while others thrive in the carnage.
The music is credited in the description. For these parts however I have edited them slightly myself to try and give a more unnatural or discordant feel to the Warp. My thanks for watching!
That's some awfully sus Tzeenitchy behavior of you Khorne~ you don't get much more tzeenitchier besides blatant lies, but gaslighting~ that's a khorneflake move.
Remember, Dorn can have a violent temper. Poor Nathaniel Garro was at the receiving end of it after reporting Horus' betrayal. I'm not anti-Dorn, I'm just saying that the Ruinous Powers can suss out every flaw.
While I agree, THIS is a short story I would have liked to see, in a separate release, at some point. It does the Warp, and the idea of demons and Khorne, and a P.T.-like personal hell, very well.
I would have never imagined they would take a battle between a primarch and a chaos god in just a drasticly boring direction. Odd choice imo. We've had decades of tedious and bland Dorn. Instead of going an interesting and new direction with the hero here, they instead bring the god of blood and skulls and actionable violence down to Dorn's tedious counting and the blandness of sand level. They presented us with Khorne: The Malicious Whisper. I feel like somebody at GW should be slapped for this..
Just because you don't like things taking time to happen doesn't mean it's bad. This shows a different side of both Dorn and Khorne and I think it's amazing.
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The second part!
I shall likely upload a different video next week before I get to part 3 onward to test out staggering releases a bit more, but, I hope you enjoy this, still!
If you enjoyed this part and want to see the others please do Like, Comment and Subscribe, it all helps!
My thanks for watching!
After a century in a desert it makes sense dorn has his "5 minute mirror gazing, to make sure he is he"
I am amazed at the amount of time and forethought Khorne dedicated to this. Normally he comes across as a straightforward psychopath, I never pictured him as such a capable tempter.
limiting a chaos god to be an "unfathomably powerful brute" would kill all the prospects for exciting stories, it could easily turn boring and repetitive. sure he is violence incarnate, but we are talking about a lovecraftian level of existence, even the dullest of them has to be incomprehensibly intelligent/deceptive
it's not a lore friendly scenario, that much is safe to say.
@@kespecyeah I like your reasoning.
@@kespec Though i have to question about your though of Khorne about deceptive can you explain more? cause i imagine it to be more in line to Tzeench and Slaanesh
He was trying to corrupt a primarch dude had to bring his A game. Plus you gotta remember Khorne's vast gestalt pysonic warp entity he mainly wants blood death and skulls but he's also far more intelligent than any mortal coul ever hope to be plus his thought processes would drive a human insane think not just on vast galaxy wide scales but also forwards and backwards through time.
After listening to this it makes sense that Roboute becomes Lord Commander after the Siege, he didn't want to do it anymore, he wanted to go out and fight.
Iron cage was a stress ball writ large...
@@shikatsu What I find funny about that is how perturabo put dorn in a cage, The bars were made of his Marines.
I mean, didn't help that papa smurf threatened to destroy the remaining fists if they didn't become codex complaint.
@@LetsFigureIt0utSigismund: sup ya blue fuck? Dad wanted me to tell you he found loopholes.
I love the bit where it's like "Because they said he was good at it."
Poor Rogal didn't have the freedom to decide his own destiny.
"My brother, Dorn, has only ever known cages - duty, honour, strength. And for every bar of every cage that has been placed around him by someone else he has made those bars stronger. He has made his cages smaller and stronger until to spread his wings would rip him apart." The Khan understood his brother better than anyone else.
That’s the thing….. none of them did. It’s what made Peter turbo so angry. The ONLY thing he wanted to do was build. But instead all he ever got to do was tear things down.
@@cheeseex4322 And when Pertarabo finally had a chance to build something, Dorn charged in head first to tear it down. Probably very cathartic for Dorn if not sensible.
@@cheeseex4322 You say it like it vindicates Perty in any way. Many of the Primarchs made something of their lot in their lives, despite their paucity of choice. Instead he let it break him and drove him to do things in the most drudging, self-destructive way. Everyone noticed how Perty and his legion did things in the most difficult way possible out of spite.
I think that this really illustrates how sinister the Ruinous Powers are. One would think that Slaanesh or Tzeentch would be the ones to be in the mind promising what you desire or aspire to. Khorne can be just as tempting. He knows that some souls need to be honest with their darker nature, not simply with what they *believe* they want, but what they *know* they want in the deepest reaches of their being.
For Khorne, slaughter in battle is pure and honest, that violence is the most basic means of survival in fallen universe. So, he uses that honesty to appeal to the soul. This makes him the eldest and most powerful of the Chaos Gods.
I had no idea Khorne could be so alluring
It’s the honesty , cuts right too it.
He is the strongest chaos god for a reason. He wants Rogal to be honest with what he wants. He chose to carve away every part of Dorn, until only honest instict remains, until isolation and loneliness wear away conscious thought. Dorn is tired, damn tired of the life he lived.
However, he was raised in Inwit, where focus, duty, a logical mind and an unyielding spirit are the core values of his people. His heart remembers that and its his greatest defense against chaos.
Dude’s pent up. Needs a release. [shut up, Slaanesh] BLOOOD!
Okej warp stuff a side. But i cant help but fell that Khorn i getting realy annoyd about hawing to go about it this way. Just waiting and here Dorn listing of facts for a few centurys must realy be starting to geting old. 😂
@@wayfaringmrwolf366 I imagine he can fast forward time in that place if he chooses to.
I picture it like he's fast-forwarding a vhs tape. "Nope still listing facts." >>----->> "Come on".
There is a reason as to how furious murder machines like Sigismund or Grimaldus are sons of Dorn and for that Khorne wants him.
It's no wonder really that Khorne would want the likes of Dorn as a champion. How satisfying it would be for Khorne to wear down such a monolithic will, seizing the moment to corner him in the perfect place to break the unbreakable and, in doing so, create possibly the most horrifying champion of chaos imaginable...
Honestly Khorne must be seething that he got someone as relatively useless as Angron as his champion. Dorn or Sanguineous would have been better Khorne pawns
@@ethanduncan1646”relatively useless” the Red Angel doesn’t fuck around bro. He fits Khorne perfectly.
@@ethanduncan1646 Ah yes practically useless. The primarch that has unleased the murder-curse is useless.
@@shadowstep1375Ah, the one thing he's done since ascending how long ago? Hundreds of years ago, thousands of years ago?
@@paulboggess1330 That's a GW issue not an Angron issue. They've only recently allowed chaos to start doing things.
Rogal Dorn, Praetorian, Primarch of the Imperial Fists, seventh-found son, defiant and unyielding, based af ❤
Rogal is giving off serious Guts from Berserk vibes
I like that the power of Khorne is a function of how long it takes him to wear down your will. If you give in immediately, then your blessings are small and you are just cannon fodder. If it takes decades to wear you down, then you get the ultimate blessings. But I guess it comes out in war, where the most powerful demons have to wait a long time before they get to participate.
That's what it means to release pent up aggression, and why the kind man is the most dangerous when he finally snaps
Can't wait for the part where dorn unironically shouts the dawn of war tutorial and khorn until he gives up
Corn for the cornflakes - FACT
What about corn starch, an essential ingredient in their composition ? What if instead you want a snack, like a corn dog ? What about corn bread as a part of a balanced breakfast? There are many varieties of corn products - FACT
@@KaiserAfini @ducklord2000 it does not matter from whence the corn flows
@@TheWoblinGoblin as long as it pours
Wheetabix for the wheetaGod
Rogal Corn 🤝🏼
One of my favourite parts of end and the death. Khorne trying to corrupt Dorn was just so morbidly fascinating to me. I hope they bring this up if he returns or it gets referenced in scouring books. Even a primarch must have some major PTSD after an ordeal like that.
Now THERE would be a twist for you. Imagine if the reason he ultimately disappeared is... the Iron Cage and his continued failures finally got to him. Khorne, after all that time, finally got to him, and he finally fell. I don't think it'll play out that way, but it would be a very dark twist to his story that might make more sense after this scene.
He is rogal dorn Master of the wall leader of the imperial fist, lord of the planet inwitt,Master of the phalanx! He is rogal dorn my brother! And he is the preatorian and he will stand vigil unmovable and strong will it!
How the fist flashes into a chaos symbol when blood is mentioned is a nice touch
Perfect I’ve been waiting for this. The unofficial voice of the 40K verse.
For me it will be always Gillbert Gottfried
Not because he was ever a va for wh40k, but i think the emperor would sound like him
@@LordMuffinToken correct answer. Would have also accepted the Sigismund, Malcador, or Tyberos.
@@Cthulhuforabettertomorrow ffs, is there a gilbert ai so we can voice in key moments in 40k?!
@@LordMuffinToken so now you said that I am totally gonna rip off that ID and set up a channel where Gilbert Godfrey he voices some of the more grim dark moments. I think it’ll go over well that the tone should be spot on.
@@Cthulhuforabettertomorrow i have the perfect start.
The inquisitor, one of the first, ultra goofy books. Gottfried talking about genestealer pussy is fucking wild.
But on the other hand would be hellsreach a great start.
Im going to die on this planet (shouts n gillbert)
This always fascinates me. Basically Khorne took advantage of Rogal’s longing for the peace and simplicity you find in a fight. Anyone that has ever participated in competitive combat of any kind knows the lure of this. Everything else just goes away and it’s just the fight. Big E should have put him in golden gloves like my Grandpa did me 😂
I loved this when I read it - this is a new twist on Paradise Regained... only with Rogal Dorn and Korne instead of Jesus and Satan.
I have to say I like it that Khorne is just as capable of manipulation as Tzeentch, it breaks our image of him in a good way
I really liked the effect of the 2 symbols fighting for control in the center. Great stuff!
"Blood. Blood. Blood. Blood? Blood. And bits of sick."
Mike stared in disbelief as his hands fell off. From them rose millions of tiny maggots. Maggots? Maggots. Maggots. Maggots. Maggots... all over the floor of the post office in Leytonstone. -Nurgle, probably.
Love the rasping voice, creeping up my spine!
Great video 💥. It would be so cool if there was a scene like Dorn was about to lose it after a century but his grandfather's soul showed up and said to him, "calm down, my boy. Focus, you are almost there" 😅
Damn his gonna cry if that happens.
I really hope GW let’s you narrate some stuff in the future. You have a subtlety that a lot of other people lack when narrating things.
I mean this as whole-heartedly as I can: _I sincerely hope that GW_ *NEVER* _asks you to do anything for them. Ever._
Those of this community understand what I mean by that _(Lookin' at you Astartes, and Tyber Phortghese)_
My many thanks! That does mean a lot, no matter what I shall keep uploading here either way!
My thanks for watching!
Everyone likes to think they know someone's gimmick. "Blood for the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull throne."
By that basis, you assume that's all there is to it. Other people tell you what he's like and what he seeks.
But only the mightiest sits on a throne of bone. To be mighty, you have to excel at all the qualities that make you a warrior.
Rage is power, but untempered, it's as much a hindrance as a power.
Thought is a capability. Knowing where best to apply the axe, is as important as killing the thing you're fighting.
Cleverness is important, because your armor won't always defend you from your enemy. You have to outthink the men in the bunker, by going through the wall, or get behind them.
Allure. Every God has its allure, even in real life. Odin offers purpose, just as God does. Khorne is a strategist, a fighter, a warrior, a king.
What good king can't make tempting offers to an unloved, but partially capable child?
The emperor sure couldn't.
That's a testament to Khorne, as much as Rogal. One, for his strategy. Two, for his loyalty.
Outstanding work, yet again. Please upload part 3 asap
Imagine khorne having 2 daemon primarchs if he succeeded here
Your videos are fucking flames man, for the love of GOD please don’t stop making them! Your legitimately top 5 best warhammer channels on RUclips and your gonna blow up
I enjoy the more nuanced takes on the Chaos Gods some of the books seem to take over the very "memeified" versions that are generally promoted.
Great job!
Great video!!
May the best orn win
God, could you imagine if Khorne got control of the world eaters… AND THE IMPERIAL FISTS??? He’d win so fast.
Even if he or any of the chaos gods got 4 legions they would still loss. Chaos cannot maintain anything they can only steal and corrupt
Awesome
Based
Very strange dynamic, Khorne employing a scheme worthy of Tzeench to defeat the great Praetorian, Khorne once again proves that he is pathetic and Dorn wins again.
Tzeentch would likely have too many moving parts for his plan. Khorne on the other hand is being rather simple. He is using Dorn to defeat himself. His doubts, his stresses, the lies, the truths. Khorne is simply using Dorn and time. War changes people, some people break in fear while others thrive in the carnage.
This dialogue is so weirdly funny to me.
These are like new dbz episodes 😅
Does he eventually take his armor off? Did it run out of power?
It's a pocket dimension , natural rules don't apply
DONT SAY IT MR DORN
What is the music in the background? Seriously what title?
The music is credited in the description.
For these parts however I have edited them slightly myself to try and give a more unnatural or discordant feel to the Warp.
My thanks for watching!
Magnificent
No. I am Rogal Dorn.🧱
Damn this is insidious
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!!!!
No.
No, - Rogal Dorn, circa M31
That's some awfully sus Tzeenitchy behavior of you Khorne~ you don't get much more tzeenitchier besides blatant lies, but gaslighting~ that's a khorneflake move.
Remember, Dorn can have a violent temper. Poor Nathaniel Garro was at the receiving end of it after reporting Horus' betrayal. I'm not anti-Dorn, I'm just saying that the Ruinous Powers can suss out every flaw.
Cmon Dwrn
this whole 3 part book sucked
While I agree, THIS is a short story I would have liked to see, in a separate release, at some point. It does the Warp, and the idea of demons and Khorne, and a P.T.-like personal hell, very well.
I would have never imagined they would take a battle between a primarch and a chaos god in just a drasticly boring direction. Odd choice imo. We've had decades of tedious and bland Dorn. Instead of going an interesting and new direction with the hero here, they instead bring the god of blood and skulls and actionable violence down to Dorn's tedious counting and the blandness of sand level. They presented us with Khorne: The Malicious Whisper.
I feel like somebody at GW should be slapped for this..
I honestly can't think of any other way you could tempt Dorn.
Just because you don't like things taking time to happen doesn't mean it's bad. This shows a different side of both Dorn and Khorne and I think it's amazing.
@@whitewall2253 wasn't Dorn chopped to bits? Why is he being tempted by anyone?
@@shadowstep1375 what did I say that made you believe I don't like things taking time?..