If They Game Is Trash Just Don't Play Tank! | Overwatch 2
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- If They Game Is Trash Just Don't Play Tank! | Overwatch 2
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Esaky is almost there, it's almost as if 5v5 isn't working with the solo tank..
all the deniers will still scroll past your comment and ignore the real problem
6v6 won't work either, because it was other way around back then - it was fun for tanks, but not fun for anyone else, so suck it tank players and let us have fun
@@adamkamienski7322Very fun to shoot at 700-800hp Raid bosses. Explain me how that is more fun? 5v5 can‘t be fixed by balance but 6v6 can, October 2020. But keep coping pro 5v5ers.You can’t gaslight people for forever (;
@adamkamienski7322 it was NOT fun for tanks lmao. Vast majority of tank players didnt want to play Sigma Orisa everyday
@@adamkamienski7322 You're going to need tank players to queue if you want a match. See the problem with your comment too?
Tank is actually really fun to play in open queue, it's almost like certain tanks were designed with having a second tank in mind... Zarya and D.Va especially, but even something like JQ are all great off tank options that work best when there's another tank infront of them absorbing the damage while they use their utility from safety. I wonder, and call me crazy, if the solution is 6v6. Because tank wasn't the least popular and genuinely harrowing role it is now.
It was always the least popular, we have to be real here. But that's in ow1, where there never was that much tank variety. It might very well become nearly as popular as other roles if 6v6 comes back
@@1DanteadamS1All the new tanks would be so much fun in 6v6.
Tank players would have much more freedom to do what they want in 6v6. It would definitely make it funner as well!
09:22 the amount of dopamine I received watching this clip
based
Sojorn got genji treatment. Fuck both of theirs ults tho.
The problem with “Just don’t play tank” (I don’t either) is that you can’t get a game with only 4 slots filled so SOMEBODY has to play tank, but most seem to agree that Tank is not enjoyable
Its the players that make it unenjoyable. You are not allowed to make mistakes as tank without someone flaming you.
lady at 6:48 PLEASE CHECK UR PC'S TEMPERATURES DAWG IM CONCERNED.
its true, i did have to jump off there 🤣0:41
that's the hardest mini-game in Overwatch, did you make it out alive?
@@myseglis nope :(
10:06 to answer your question he's speaking a mix of English and Japanese. "Wait what? 助けて！何だ？助けて誰が！" which is "wait what? help! what? someone help!"
Eskay is the same person who hard-advocated for 5v5. It sounds like they're contradicting themselves and 6v6 is and always has been the answer people like them have been blindly ignoring.
6v6 was hell. Tanks were made of paper back then. They had less health AND took more damage. Double shield was also a nightmare. 5v5 is great- tanks just need to learn how to swap. DPS players can one-trick, but tanks need to constantly modify their approach.
@@nicolasleroux5302 Counter swapping is one of the main reasons players hate tank. Most players just want to get into a game and play the characters they like but as soon as someone starts losing they swap to a hard counter and it ruins the fun. With two tanks, you don't need to swap as much because the other player can compensate for your weaknesses. Other roles still have that ability but tank lost it with the transition and it has made tank a chore to play rather than joy. I used to love off-tanking in overwatch 1 but now anytime I que tank it makes me want to smash my computer.
@@borutoburrito6547 Swapping has always been a major part of Overwatch because of how one-sided many matchups are. If the enemy has pharah-echo, your DPS teammates shouldn’t say “but I wanna play junkrat-reaper.” Rather, they should play hitscan and force the enemy team to rebuild their comp.
This is true for tanks too. If the enemy has ball or winston, don’t play rein. If they have Orisa or Hog, don’t play Doom. If players don’t like this, then there shouldn’t be so many lopsided matchups in the game.
@@nicolasleroux5302Let’s not be dense. If u play junk reaper into pharah and destroy their back line and tank then the pharah gets shit on. Just bc u play pharah into projectile dps doesn’t mean u automatically win. Compare that to a zarya dva matchup. The dva has to occupy the frontline and is at an inherent disadvantage. She has to swap bc it’s just not the right pick. You can’t attack the back line bc the zarya can turn on you and you have no way of mitigating her damage. These aren’t equal. If a pharah chases a reaper in her back line she isn’t attacking his team therefore giving him the same value as a hitscan contesting her. And the reaper still has abilities to play around that pharah pick. These two situations are nowhere near comparable.
@@nicolasleroux5302also point is moot bc playing hitscan into pharah doesn’t automatically make u win lmao. Why did yzna hit 5000 sr only playing pharah then? Why did he have 15 accounts in top 500 if swapping hitscan was that lopsided. The answer is bc it’s not. Dps and support to a lesser extent are able to force characters bc matchups aren’t rock paper scissors. It’s about ability and execution. A hit scan has the ability to kill a pharah. But if the pharah is better he won’t be able to execute that. The best rein player in the world can and will lose to a mediocre mauga player if mauga is meta. The best dvas don’t even force it against zarya. Not the same man.
Flatz has ptsd from playing tank… oh wait that’s every tank player
Ah the early days of overwatch when you could just duo queue tank with your pal in competitive and just have fun
Then brig happened
The best of times. “Rein zarya or Ball Winston? What ya fancy?”
Then the cherry on top that was Baptist, which released after Brig. Truly made the game worse.
That Rein zarya combo was insane. A good duo that was more devastating than dps in ow1.
Release Brig was a nightmare, yes, but it’s incorrect to say that she ruined tanks. If anything, Brig 1.0 created a meta where tanks (specifically Rein, Zarya, and D.va, all of whom were widely loved) dominated. Brig sucked for DPS, not tanks.
Playing tank is so miserable. We get blamed for everything and can't play our favorite tank because it's not meta or because it doesn't complement the team. We have to rely on DPS doing their part and support actually supporting us, which is not the case. The majority of the time, they would rather be DPS 2.0
i was healboting on kiriko and ana for 6 seasons in a row, now i am playing bap only and have 8k damage per 10 with 7k healing per 10, my winrate on support increased from 51-52% to 70%, screw every doomfist main i would rather play for myself and win games by my own than support another onetricking idiot
@EL1PSE Doomfist can and should be able to go for health packs or use his ult, but I'm talking more about front-line tanks or no mobility tanks. If supports don't land their shots and get kills and the enemy teams support land theirs on the tank, then they win 9/10 times. Team who kills the tank first at higher ELOS usually win the team fights.
Become rein onetrick and ignore crying of your team 😎
People wants 6v6 back but fuck it I’m trying to have 9v9 quick play it’s time.
ew highlander overwatch lmao
Ain't nobody talking about 3:06 that was insane?!?
Flats on patch note cycle is funny af 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Eskay says this but then say 5v5 is better
very real eskay, very real.
Dudes the farthest from reality out of any streamer, just another Groomer for little kids.
unlike his gender
Ana still more balanced than Bap even with the jump lol
3:42 when ML7 gets ML7’d… 😂
BRING BACK 6V6 FFS. A lot of issues would be solved if you do just that. Obviously tackle the few issues 6v6 and dial back every change made in OW2
Love this guy
tank at 7:51 is hilarious
Whoa Eskay is turning into a "rose-tinted glasses wearing flat earther" too?!?!?!? 🤯🤯🤯
Sooshi needs to put on nano confirmation 😂
Thankyou for including me in the awesome video apreciate it much love
Doom is fun rein is fun, just ignore the other tank and pick their squishies if they counter you
All they needed to do with Sojourn is remove railgun from her normal abilities and make it her ultimate and then give her a new ability to run along the walls or something interesting that compliments her fast agility
Is the bunny hop baptiste for the new arcade mode mode or normal?
How do you fix the tank cycle? You nerf the three annoying tanks because they get value in ranked facing uncoordinated teams. When all three are taken to the farm you can have patches with literally any other tank. My guess sig queen and Winston would be good.
hat was trying to LOS the dva bomb
I wonder if they've considered adding a second tank? Having a main tank along with an off-tank may make the roll more fun. 🤔
the meta for tanks has been Orisa, Mauga or Hog for half a year, (Sigma playable). The rest of the tanks just get destroyed,m of course its not fun
I realized the tank thing recently because as a Cree soldier Ashe player I think the game is great but tank players still hate the game so it seems kinda lopsided
2:07 range got buffed remember
You fix the tank problem with 6v6 + all the changes and reworks from ow2 besides the hp one.
The game can never be balanced but you can make those 3 heroes terrible to play so they aren’t the default meta characters
Weth playing doom looks like me playing doom
"How do you fix it man" 6v6 lmao ikik but it just would fix that specific problem
the tank part is true 100%
1:04 She literally looked at Genji...
They game can be balanced universally they just need to think about it. Any game can be balanced
"game can never be balanced.". Bring back 6v6.
All i get from this is, How to fix OW: Remove the Tanks lol
you typed the title wrong, "they" instead of "the"
Lack of tank players overall is the reason this game can never go back to 6 v 6.
This is such a brain dead take.
5v5 gutted the tank role, you are now solely responsible for protecting your team and making space. If you mess up once, you get blamed because there is no other tank to back you up and you are the frontline. Every other role has a teammate that can pick up the slack if you aren't playing great. Tank role requires you to play perfectly every game or you lose/get reported for throwing. And you are also the most counter-able since you are the only tank, so every game be prepared to get fully countered forcing you to repeatedly swap
Tank feels like a whole job now. Especially when Tank-buster's are meta like Mauga/Hog so every other tank is forced to swap to them or you get flamed. Or the long Orisa meta we just had, where if you didnt play the most boring tank in the game you were also reported/blamed for throwing
Saying we cant go back to 6v6 because 5v5 made all tank players quit is nonsense
@@shocky377 The funny part is you can play perfectly and still lose when their is dps or support diff....or the enemy just counter swaps you with 3 ppl and your team doesnt help you with swapping aswell.
I had so many games with a reaper+junkrat dps line while the enemy played zen and perma discord me on tank and my supports beeing moira+illari both on pure dps...it is fuckn time to get 6v6 back so I dont get the blame with 2 times the stats of my dps line combined....
It’s not 5v5 or 6v6, overwatch is been held captive of the competitive side, ow it’s fun when the devs tried funny stuff, the problem is the streamers and pro scene who tried to force balance to a game that’s not designed to be competitive, this game wasn’t designed to be a competitive game it was meant to be a fun crazy fps with moba in between, if the ow scene stopped asking for balance and let de devs go crazy the game could be one of the best games rn but forcing balance brings the sad state it’s in
Can we just remove tank as a role from the game for a while.
Welcome to Tank experience where all dps and support will always blame/flame tank players even they are good or bad or the supports or dps are bad they will still target tank as bad.
When the tank players patience finally snapped, they will call him as toxic player.
You fix tank problems by adding another tank to the team. In 5v5 one tank has to survive, create space, enable team, sometimes peel and it's almost like you can't do all that by yourself. Tank is just a meaty punching bag and a cooldown target. The tank population will die out unless they come up with some crazy good solutions or admit that they fucked up and go back.
This is why i play most Ball bc he is fun until the enemy team pick 3 or 4 counters for him and make my life miserable.
"If they game is thrash" is this english?
2:47
5v5 is sooo bad , tanking is dogshit , you go x , they IMMEDIATELY GO BASTION PHARAH MERCY , I JUST WANT TO PLAY MONKEY AND NOT BE GREETED BY REAPER TORB BASTION EVERY FUCKING GAME DID I INCLUDE INSTA SWAP TO HOG???
6:35 wait he's cheating
If only we knew why playing Tank sucks….
I love moreweth but my brother is getting balder every video
Idk tank is fun i went 10 wins last night NOW THAT SUZU DOESNT STOP REINHARDT AS MUCH ANYMOOOOORE!!! I AM FREEEEE
I'm sorry but Eskay's changes to Ana were lazy
Title is fucked up. If that was by design, funny, if that was not, oops.
11:28 that's the point of balance patches! You cannot have a perfect balance, it's impossible, so each season they try to change the meta, it's mild hero banning... it's like flats wants blizzard to stop updating the game
how about we STOP BUFFING THESE FUCKING HORRIBLE HEROS NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY! Theres 12 goddamn tanks in the game and you can could only play 3 of them in a constant looping cycle without wanting to jump off a goddamn bridge.
It took them a year and a half to nerf Sojourn, finally! Do Kiriko next.
(Also remove Mauga, that's how you fix it.)
Tank is the most beautiful role. But in 6v6, not this pathetic shit excuse for a game.
I wish women were real
dps is trash too. they've taken away all agency, you are entirely at the whim of your supports. If they don't heal or are shit, thats game. I've literally just started queuing support and playing dps as a support. They never heal, so im swapping roles. Been working out really well so far, almost masters now. Blizzard has straight up ruined this game.
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First leggo!
2nd ez
Poor eskay, I didn’t know he was mentally ill
Cope
Man, Flats is unsufferable. The guy ALWAYS has something to complain about, everything is always wrong to him. If you don't like the game, play something else and quit bitching, Jesus
holy shit either he's a shill to you people or he complains a lot. Just make up your mind.
bro watched one clip made by another person and assumes flats complained about the update while having a good time. flats haters are insufferable.
@@skyler7017 "One clip". Just go to the shorts in his own channels, both of them, and see ir for yourself. I'm not a hater, I just don't like him as a content creator, totally different.
eskay really trying hard with the girl voice
shes also got a special package for the lucky person.