The Problem with Content Creators + Eavesdrop Update | Methodz | The Eavesdrop Podcast Ep. 160

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Комментарии • 264

  • @michaelbrzezowski9443
    @michaelbrzezowski9443 10 месяцев назад +271

    I think you should keep it going but just when you can. I love listening to the eavesdrop. I’d rather get a episode every once in a while rather than none at all.

    • @scottsundwall6753
      @scottsundwall6753 10 месяцев назад +5

      I couldnt have said it better was about to comment the same shit so thanks for saving me the time.

    • @iEDisPANDA
      @iEDisPANDA 10 месяцев назад +1

      I second this. I always look forward to your podcast, Eavesdrop, regardless of what people think of your character. I do understand allowing other content creators to now flourish while you’re taking interest in other things.

    • @xHappySlip
      @xHappySlip 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yup, once in a while is better than none at all.

    • @dizzyrasclart1013
      @dizzyrasclart1013 10 месяцев назад

      I vouch this it compliments my workout routine amazingly

    • @tylerbeckwith5331
      @tylerbeckwith5331 10 месяцев назад

      Agree. As long as it isn't affecting any of the crew negatively then I hope the drop doesn't die.

  • @jpalacesneakers
    @jpalacesneakers 6 месяцев назад

    Dannng I just found this podcast, hopefully Hector comes back with more top tier content like this!!
    I just subbed and I thought you were going to say we just hit a million subscribers with that follow lol but it was shopify numbers

  • @ronaldmaxwell6668
    @ronaldmaxwell6668 10 месяцев назад

    I love eaves drop and otpic podcast and flycast every week i listen at work and i listen to old ones i never heard, ive been doing this for months

  • @RambinoYT
    @RambinoYT 10 месяцев назад +1

    Remove 1 Million attachments (Bring back Pick 10)
    Dumb down the attachments back to old days, give me Red Dot and Grip
    Tone down Aim Assist to what it once was where it actually takes skills to aim (Create Skillgap)
    Remove all the climbing/mantling/ledges/hanging on ledges etc bullshit (Bring back actual skillful jumping and timings to jumping)
    Make the perk system better and add perks that challenges Ninja so it's not as dominant
    Bring back NONE Disbanding lobbies
    Do these changes and we are in a better place.
    And to argue what Hutch said and what Methodz tried to defend.
    As a former competitive player who has been to Lan, competed and won money. The point we sweaty people have is that back in the days there was no SBMM. It was Free for All, this made the system more enjoyable because you would have to sweat sometimes which is not as bad as having to sweat every lobby. Now us sweaty players find ourselves playing less and less because every lobby feels like we are playing for Money/Prop Points or whatever. Gives us back the Free For All and have it be sweaty lobbies sometimes, that's where the term ''let me put my tryhard pants on'' came from. When i started playing in 2008 On Call of Duty 4 i was horrible and got stomped.....i was forced with 3 choices. (1) Quit like a fucking loser (2) Adapt and get better (3) Take the dick and accept im ass.
    Now a days people are protected, we not only as a game...but society is shielding and protecting everything. It's bullshit, we are handing people free shit. We are making killstreaks easy for people, we are making killing easy for everyone, we are making aim assist easy for people to get kills. Call of Duty is handing everything to people. There was no mantling or hanging back in the days, if you wanted to do something along does line you had to do it yourself. You had to jump, you had to strafe, you had to have the perfect jump timing, you had to have the perfect landing and not go to far. Mantling has made anything climbable, vaultable etc. I find myself jumping on the stupidest shit ever that i dont wanna climb or jump on because they wanna do everything for me or feel the need to help me when i don't want it. Now the game aims for me, back in the days you actually had to aim (Go back and watch the pro's play the Hitch throwback tournament and see the pro's struggle to aim! It's stupid how they have made it. They need to go back to the old days and dumb shit down HARD. Make it like they did back in the days. No mantling/hanging or that shit, red dots on the map, better perk system, tone down the 1 million attachments, great 3 lane maps like the old ones (not the new shit they brough back that they changed and added spots and shit to)
    Dont even get me started on skins and how fucking difficult they are to spot.........

    • @gjhath
      @gjhath 10 месяцев назад

      Ur either stupid or havent played the game in 6 years... The aim assist back in the day was super strong and it kicked in super early. Wich is why if you watch some old cwl clips it will look like they arent hitting a single shot. Nowadays everyone is better at cod because there is more pro scenes so everyone wants to become better and maybe even become a pro and if you dont like the cdl then maybe you like world series of warzone. Its like fortnite, everyone was shit for 2 years then everyone wanted to become better because of all the tournaments

  • @OilersHD97
    @OilersHD97 10 месяцев назад

    Best episode in a long time Hecz. Raw and honest and real.

  • @LangerzzCPYInc
    @LangerzzCPYInc 10 месяцев назад +1

    My issue with pubs SBMM. I'm a decent enough played, ain't no God, but I'm above average. I have a bunch of good mates who I love gaming with. We can't play pubs together and have fun, because SBMM puts us against the mos cracked out kids, making me sweat and carry EVERY game, while my poor mates get destroyed. Why can't I just chill with my mates in a pubs match and have fun? Ranked is where we should have to sweat...

    • @LangerzzCPYInc
      @LangerzzCPYInc 10 месяцев назад

      Too add on to my comment, I don't play a lot anymore. Perhaps 1-2 hours a day. Work, life, etc. So I come home, jump on cod with the boys whe I can. Get shat on by people who play a lot more than me, for an hour, then go to bed pissy cz my experience was not fun. I dont want to destroy people, I just don't want to feel like I'm playing optic in the final for $3m every single game I play.

  • @ironman6655
    @ironman6655 10 месяцев назад +124

    We need your brother back on one more time, and hopefully for 3 hours if time allows. The banter and insight between you two are some of my favorite episodes.

    • @ironman6655
      @ironman6655 10 месяцев назад +8

      To go along with your brother episode, I also think if you brought Jude back on and discuss the the past 5 years of OpTic and HecZ transitions as per her point of view behind the scenes, and how things have changed and grown and changed, both good and bad would be a good episode.

    • @flanksinatra007
      @flanksinatra007 10 месяцев назад +1

      Sark was a god tier guest as well

    • @Xonesss
      @Xonesss 9 месяцев назад

      Still re watch those to this day every so often

  • @OhAndron
    @OhAndron 10 месяцев назад +47

    I will always appreciate and respect Zinni for being so outspoken about mental health, his own included. It is so inspiring, and has helped me in being much more open about my own struggles with my mental health. Better Days Ahead ♡♡

    • @OhAndron
      @OhAndron 10 месяцев назад +3

      I def think social media has played a part in exacerbating my own struggles with mental health in many aspects - ESPECIALLY my anxiety and depression. Much love to Zinni and H3CZ for talking about it for a solid amount of time. If anyone here is struggling with depression, anxiety, bipolar - whatever it is - please know that it will eventually get better. Take it a day at a time, an hour at a time, a minute at a time. I believe in you and hope you all fkn thrive and achieve every single one of your dreams and goals ♡

    • @iamomen
      @iamomen 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@OhAndron

    • @OhAndron
      @OhAndron 10 месяцев назад

      @@iamomen much love, Omen! i sincerely hope you have the most wonderful day! ♡♡

  • @eddiepr2730
    @eddiepr2730 10 месяцев назад +24

    Your Brother has to be one of the last one and it should be a long one. Imagine one with your brother and Scump at the same time... that would be none stop laughter

  • @SuperNoome
    @SuperNoome 10 месяцев назад +55

    Zinni comes across as such a genuine guy. Great podcast.

  • @joshwells5921
    @joshwells5921 10 месяцев назад +24

    this kind of podcast doesn't have to be consistent or weekly. Keep it going and just do it when you can. We have plenty of other weekly podcasts to listen to.

  • @TheKrispykeem
    @TheKrispykeem 10 месяцев назад +12

    So gutted to hear about the Eavesdrop going 😢 thanks for all the unbelievable episodes 💚

  • @xXEpiCZzLeGenDZz
    @xXEpiCZzLeGenDZz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Need one more with TUMORS🙏🏼

  • @jakeonyx4775
    @jakeonyx4775 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hutch is wrong right? Without SBMM, there’s a bigger variety within games which means everyone sort of has a chance, and if not the next game, you probably would have a better team/worse opponent. SBMM means that everyone in the lobby has to try hard, no matter the skill level. Tell me if I’m wrong

  • @davidb7636
    @davidb7636 10 месяцев назад +3

    Zin needs his own pod, felt like a host on this

  • @vvemomusic5543
    @vvemomusic5543 10 месяцев назад +3

    This man Zinni is on the right side of depression and anxiety. I genuinely feel that he understands true depression, and when he says things like “at the end of the day, its up to you change, you have to really want it.” That means alot to me, cuz i dont think he says that out of ignorance, it feels genuine and real and more like motivation than anything else. I think he understands that its very hard for alot of people to make a change, but he still tries to preach motivation and i respect that alot. Zin is a good man, he’s utilizing his position to speak out about a disease that many of us have and it’s commendable to say the least.

    • @zkaleal
      @zkaleal 10 месяцев назад

      Great take 🙏🏽

  • @Ap0logetic
    @Ap0logetic 10 месяцев назад +4

    We love the eavesdrop whenever we get it, take your time hecz and we’ll enjoy it whenever you can give it to us

  • @WxrrenTV
    @WxrrenTV 10 месяцев назад +2

    I love Zinni - Super glad he joined OpTic

  • @robinwells5343
    @robinwells5343 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sbmm convo was a huge waste of time. Methodz was 100% correct. Sweaty is for ranked, wanting to get better is for ranked, pubs are for grinding camos and challenges, trying goofy or trolly loadouts.
    There is nowhere for that now. Even war mode is an absolute sweat fest. If I use a sniper (which I suck with) I'll drop like 5-10 kills. Its not only frustrating but it's boring too.
    I'm a shit player and I can say 100% that sbmm the way it is now is awful, you don't need to be good to think that

  • @azreal8169
    @azreal8169 10 месяцев назад +1

    54:23 that's the most insignificant thing I've heard this entire podcast. People who don't like you are the people who truly see the flaws in you & don't hesitate to bash you. YES, it hurts & YES it is negative. . . . but what do us as PEOPLE do with the negatives? . . . . turn them into POSITIVES without tooting your own horn & acting oblivious about it. Feel like i'm starting to understand the OpTic memo.

  • @MrJoepeps
    @MrJoepeps 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hecz doesn't get the public vs ranked and competitive. He doesn't like pubs and is a comp player.... No one is saying I want play all noobs. I want to be able to join a lobby that is based on connection first and the players in the game are on connection as well. It could be 4 noobs 4 players my skill and 4 better players... But its all random. If its just ranked play in pubs, what do you get out of it? You have to use the best weapons all the time, no variety and for no reward.... If everyone is on the same still level, who every has the best connection will win the gun fight.... Hecz doesn't know what hes talking about because he doesn't play it, like he admitted. If you want to protect noobs, bring back boot camp and lock them in for 25 levels.

  • @Japop123
    @Japop123 10 месяцев назад +5

    This ep dropped at the perfect time for me, got a long essay to finish, thanks Hector

  • @AdrenolinFlux
    @AdrenolinFlux 10 месяцев назад +1

    Exclusive seaty ppl complain about sbmm buy a new game lol no self awareness

  • @Zpectar
    @Zpectar 10 месяцев назад +5

    I feel like Zinni doesn’t get the respect he deserves. He’s honestly such a good addition to OpTic

  • @brendanwyatt6076
    @brendanwyatt6076 10 месяцев назад +3

    Regardless of how often The Eavesdrop is posted I always come back and I appreciate the insight that the show provides. H3CZ is the GOAT

  • @HitManRickyTan
    @HitManRickyTan 10 месяцев назад +2

    I agree with hutch these streamers complaining about sbmm is ridiculous you want to ruin the game for others by stomping them. They can't see the hypocrisy of it

    • @MetMill
      @MetMill 10 месяцев назад +1

      Spoken like a true .5 kd player

  • @jamesbendon6496
    @jamesbendon6496 10 месяцев назад +3

    Let's get this right. Methodz, Hecz and Hitch are the guys who actually create for Optic. They make people laugh and that's so important. Without Methodz, Scump streams would be boring. It's annoying that he isn't valued more than by Optic because he wants people to laugh, instead of inflate his cod ego. Methodz can be a huge star in the future. 🙏 Best of luck Zin ❤️

    • @jamesbendon6496
      @jamesbendon6496 10 месяцев назад

      When was the last time Scump had a good stream without Methodz?

    • @jamesbendon6496
      @jamesbendon6496 10 месяцев назад

      Why did Methodz get put on the Breakdown? Why does Methodz play with Scump on every other game?

    • @jamesbendon6496
      @jamesbendon6496 10 месяцев назад

      @@hopbhiiiNow wash your mouth out.

    • @jamesbendon6496
      @jamesbendon6496 10 месяцев назад

      Nice channel banner bro. You design that yourself? 🤣 Maybe you need a crackpipe

  • @ChunksCG
    @ChunksCG 10 месяцев назад +1

    bro we need a 3 hour long TUMORS pod before you end it

  • @jtesting922
    @jtesting922 10 месяцев назад +3

    Yeah pubs aren't meant for sweating. There are challenges to complete, camos to collect, guns to level up. I don't want to have to use a meta loadout just to survive in a pub match, let me have some fun holy shit

    • @Trick0ut
      @Trick0ut 10 месяцев назад

      I think the point is it’s a catch 22 the people watching pod cast like this and even talking about SBMM aren’t the people it’s made to help. The 9 - 5 dad that jumps on after work doesn’t realize the reason he is able to get some kills in his match is because Activision made a system to help you fight people you can kill.

    • @jtesting922
      @jtesting922 10 месяцев назад

      @@Trick0ut the 9-5 dad will get shit on occasionally. They won’t be shit on every game.
      As Zin said, it’s just how it used to be

    • @Trick0ut
      @Trick0ut 10 месяцев назад

      @@jtesting922 good or bad, and regardless of how it used to be, the system wasn’t made for you or me or Zinni or anyone who even knows it exists. The people it was made for have no idea it’s even a thing, they probably also don’t realize their controller is doing most of the aiming for them.

  • @zach7276
    @zach7276 10 месяцев назад +2

    I truly do not understand why people try to get under Zinni's skin. He is such a genuine guy he speaks from the heart and just seems like he iwould be a good person to just hangout and vibe with. I truly think we take people like Zin for granted, and if he happens to read this i want to shout out the hard work he has put into his stream he does his best to make all feel welcomed and give the best experience possible so thank you for hitting the button.

    • @vodka4680
      @vodka4680 10 месяцев назад

      not reading allat lil bro. zinni a cornball i fear

    • @thepranksters5653
      @thepranksters5653 10 месяцев назад +1

      people dislike when someone else is able to articulate themselves better than them. they also hate people who are actually good people

    • @thepranksters5653
      @thepranksters5653 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@vodka4680you're sad

  • @TBassFactory
    @TBassFactory 10 месяцев назад

    Can I come on the podcast as a fishing RUclipsr, dad, from San Antonio with almost 25k subscribers, 8 million views and 0 sponsors? I get over 30k views a day and just love fishing in Texas.

  • @HiTechRedneck
    @HiTechRedneck 10 месяцев назад +1

    I definitely get and appreciate what y’all are saying about social media, it’s been overall a positive for me personally, but I absolutely see where you both are coming from. I’m also lucky in that it isn’t my job so I can disconnect whenever I want and not *have* to get on it if I’m not feeling it. I live in the middle of nowhere and can’t drive due to my vision and don’t have many irl friends and none that I have a ton in common with (not a lot of CoD, Halo, etc fans here in the boonies), so the majority of who I consider my friends, are those that I’ve made through gaming, Twitter, getting involved in other communities, etc, so without social media I’m just kinda alone. I’m also very liberal with the block and mute buttons, I treat social media as an escape from the real world, so any topics or people that are gonna put me in a negative headspace get blocked or muted (love the muted words feature of Twitter, wish it was a thing on every social media platform)

  • @HRTYMANT1S
    @HRTYMANT1S 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think you should have or be open to have a segment for gaming and mental health. For me and the brothers and sisters who i jam with are like family especially when i need to escape for abit and reset

  • @moc-5421
    @moc-5421 10 месяцев назад +1

    Zin is the fkn man. love ya brother 🤝

  • @Pvt.ryan92
    @Pvt.ryan92 10 месяцев назад +1

    Methodz should take over the podcast!

  • @austinchesney4094
    @austinchesney4094 10 месяцев назад +1

    i dont mind inconsistency honestly, whenever im lookking for a podcast before bed and i see an eavesdrop im always tuning in and hype for it

  • @travisraff
    @travisraff 10 месяцев назад +3

    Stay in person and please just do it whenever you can. I love listening to these. 👍

  • @beerados3989
    @beerados3989 10 месяцев назад +2

    Would be cool to have Revise and Omens get their own episode. Unless I missed them

  • @Casarez956
    @Casarez956 10 месяцев назад +1

    My two favorite OpTic Members in one podcast. Thank you baby Jesus.

  • @blizz2128
    @blizz2128 10 месяцев назад +1

    this podcast has been legendary. it will be a great series to come back and watch till the end of my time. thx for everything h3cz cant wait for 1mill

  • @lfaf6451
    @lfaf6451 10 месяцев назад +1

    Please post as you can if you want to as well. We take whatever we can get brother 💚💚 this pod is a gem

  • @warren94225
    @warren94225 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nah hecz don’t do it please 😂 I love these podcasts hearing about different pros and peoples actual story get too know them more, just do them if and when you can

  • @justin3258
    @justin3258 10 месяцев назад +1

    Damn gonna miss these podcasts don’t he afraid to bring ‘em out once in awhile

  • @jae0036
    @jae0036 10 месяцев назад +1

    Best start to a Monday shheeeeeeeeshh

  • @IMightyL
    @IMightyL 10 месяцев назад +1

    methodz fumbled with explaining sbmm. hutch is completely wrong.

  • @ForGrimTilTV
    @ForGrimTilTV 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hey @hecz, This was a huuuuge change in the honesty and energy on the pod. I think we are a lot of people who would digg an even deeper understanding on the inner workings of OPTIC and why you decided to end the podcast.

  • @SphexyGaming
    @SphexyGaming 10 месяцев назад

    I think the distinction that people mean to make when they oppose SBMM is that:
    1. COD used to be an arcade fps, which was what made it so appealing to everyone. In my own definition, that effectively meant you could drop in with the trolliest loadout and still stomp because you have acquired the game sense and map knowledge to outplay others despite your weapon choice. People would play in whatever way they like, but being cringe with a target finder LMG camping was mutually frowned upon, even though it'd be free cheese. Nowadays its celebrated to use the most overkill-esc class, as if doing good with it wasn't already the obvious outcome. Of course, its your own problem if you're not using everything at your disposal to be your best (meta guns, etc). But this idea of "Meta" was never a term that was even used back in the day. I'd say social media and content creation has poisoned that concept, but at the same time content creation in COD has always existed - it was just never a worthy topic of content creation. So maybe its a culture shift?
    From a sniping or trickshotting perspective, you'd practice your aim/centering and then combine that with an acquired map knowledge of learning how to funnel enemies into a spawn trap/position yourself for clips. There's so much cheese now, just slap on damage-altering attachments and outgun fundamentally better players (leaving no room for trolly sniper scopes or variation, because you have to meta build or you just get outgunned even when you shoot first).
    2. the problem isn't that skilled players cant hang at their own level. The SBMM algorithm is just fundamentally wrong. Ranked Play is supposed to be the pinnacle of fair and/or challenging gunplay. You're in 4mans of like-minded players who are there with the same competitive intent and ideally are calling out or cooperating to compete against 4 other like-minded players. In pubs, you're 6v6 with a mix of people who aren't cooperating or working toward a similar goal. Everyone's on their own side quest. Which is how its supposed to be! But when you get the shitters on your team and the enemy is trying their hardest for no good reason, its impossible to match up bc you're only just one man... against 6 gods - especially with the weird spawn systems lately.
    Your lobbies will consist of some GOATS and some other people who just spammed decoys for 10 games to level guns or players who have riot shields on their backs, all of which get excessive score per minute that have no relation to their map knowledge or gun skill - yet putting them at the same "sbmm" in the eyes of the algorithm.
    Let's say you wanted to warm up for Ranked. At a certain point, you'd want to face skilled players to get quality warmup, but at first you want to shake off the dust and not go full tryhard right away. There's no levels to it anymore, just right away facing people who give you a run for your money. Or lets say you are sweating off rip, but then later on you wanna decompress with some music and vibes. Well now your SBMM has flagged you as a high skilled player and you're stuck in lobbies having to sound whore and focus like an MLG tourney. You can still have fun, especially in this COD, but once the grind is over its nice to be able to play for other intrinsic purposes than just sweating for no greater reason. EX: Sniping from a perch became too easy, so people evolved and started trying to time spins and mechanics into it (trickshots), or going for consecutive kills in the feed with various steez (sniping feeds). SBMM, spawns, and the non-traditional map layouts have set things like sniping culture back 15 years. MFs are 360 hardscoping and getting 2mil views on tiktok. No disrespect, content is content buuuutttt...
    3. Then there's a whole problem with reverse boosting, etc. where certain people spend hours throwing ELO to fake some content and post it without context - making them look a lot better than reality. IDK how this affects me, but it's frustrating and cringe to see. Or you see that one guy on tiktok whose spamming excessive and pointless slide and movement to look like GOAT, meanwhile they are literally bronze elo players. But there's no public stats anymore to even be able to point out like "ya you're not actually HIM, you're just a low elo player. That wouldn't work in higher skill base". Whereas if there wasn't SBMM, everyone has the same luck of the draw with their lobbies to either face challenging opponents or get bot lobbies and pull off silly moves like that.
    I digress. I know it's probably simple: The "bad players" just aren't as bad as they used to be, making less of a disparity in the general skill gap of pub lobbies.

  • @Manning0151
    @Manning0151 10 месяцев назад

    When i was 11, i had a 0.5kd on OG MW2, getting slapped every game trying to be a sniper boy... BUT ZINNI IS RIGHT ABOUT PEOPLE THAT SUCKED BACK THEN IT WAS STILL FUN WE PLAYED THAT GAME EVERYDAY, SBMM needs to die.

  • @Twhitlock235
    @Twhitlock235 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM in ranked play is absolutely fine, why would ANYBODY wanna sweat that damn hard in public matches?
    Second, haven’t COD games seen that YT views on their games have DRASTICALLY gone down?

  • @itzexodus4793
    @itzexodus4793 10 месяцев назад +1

    Don’t let it be over I love your podcast ❤

  • @kylegardiner2919
    @kylegardiner2919 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM thought, I was a 1.7 - 1.9 kd basically all through mw4-bo4 now if I'm not trying the whole time, I'm getting bundled. I was Diamond last year ranked my mw3 pubs I've had crimson and iridescent kids absolutely piss on me

  • @c__riv
    @c__riv 10 месяцев назад +1

    We love Winni!!!

  • @vvemomusic5543
    @vvemomusic5543 10 месяцев назад

    I whole heartedly agree with Hecz when it comes to SBMM. I started playing COD as a little ass kid in MW2 the original. NOWADAYS there is WAYYYYYYYYY more people playing Call Of Duty and in a business sense it makes so much sense to match lower skilled players in lobbies with players on the same level. I love how Hecz mentions matching up with better players..raging and still ITCHING to get better and get as good as the players that make you rage. With that being said, as someone that has put so much time into COD and eventually got good at the game, it is sometimes so rage inducing to have to sweat in more matches than not. But in the same sentiment, in MW3 the current game while I’m raging, it makes me want to play better and make better decisions on the map and just simply learn the game. If SBMM DIDN’T exist, all of the good players would ruin the experience for new players and players that are just simply not good, and thats not fair man. Of course there’s days i wanna get on and listen to music and just have fun, but thats not realistic. Realistically the more you understand the game and the better you are at the game, the more freedom you have to listen to music and relax cuz your thumbs are conditioned to deal with sweats. I dominated MW2 last year, that game was easy to be the top guy. This game is harder because of the TTK, and it pisses me off sometimes but it brings that feeling back for me. I love this game so far, spawns absolutely need to be fixed but MW3 is a great game so far.

  • @frankig
    @frankig 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM should not be in public matches.
    Because of SBMM, little Timmy never plays against any of the Pros or Challengers. You could say well little Timmy needs to get to Pro/Challenger skill level to play against them, but then that is what ranked or playing comp is for. Public lobbies should get you into lobbies where you have the best ping response possible (based on where the servers are). If that means you get paired up with blind statues who never move and you're up against the god squad themselves...then so be it...but at the same time it presents the possibility that you are paired up with the god squad playing against the blind statues. It's a give and take. This is how the old public lobbies used to be. It gave any one queuing that game type the possibility of having CaptDad (dad of 3 who only plays 30 mins a day) as your team mate or Karma (GOAT w the 3 rings) as your team mate.
    The problem is anyone who plays CoD knows that KD matters.
    It actually does not, but even reading me saying it does not you've likely already scoffed at the fact that it does indeed matter. And it does...to some extent. So much so that Activision now hides your death count so its not what you "focus on" when playing. Even the game is trying to tell you it does not matter.
    Rewards for kills was a big thing via killstreaks. Rather than "focusing on" kills, Activision gave us scorestreaks cause they know some objective based people might get the 400 pts needed for a UAV easy, but can't chain together 3 kills consistently enough to get the UAV.
    I can understand wanting to silo brand new players to the game from others. And they should. But once an account reaches level15-20 they should be in the population with everyone else. By that level they have custom classes and have likely used a gun enough to have it mostly leveled up (and have the better attachments unlocked).
    its a give and take. sometimes you're going to give the whooping, sometimes you gotta take the whooping. trying to preserve everyone be at a 1KD so they don't feel bad and keep playing is not the way though, nor making public matches feel like you need to try your absolute best to win. like Zin said, sometimes you just want to blast the music, lay back, and play. if me barely paying attention is stomping on a lobby of plumbers, so be it. just as so, if me barely paying attention is getting stomped out, so be it, its expected in that state

  • @gerardoornelas430
    @gerardoornelas430 10 месяцев назад

    The Twins don’t represent OpTic. Nor should H3CZ get shit for someone pointing out the OpTic flag in the video. Take it for face value. He may have thought it was good promo like I did. He didn’t watch the whole video. We are human. Chill out!!!

  • @adanvillegas6710
    @adanvillegas6710 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM sucks for everyone I average about 1.0 and I have other friends who avg less than a 1.0 as well. me and them stopped playing because of SBMM. Shits ass for everyone not just 2.0+ KD players

  • @bbrown6057
    @bbrown6057 10 месяцев назад

    Apex Legends has SBMM now and it sucks. I don't play ranked, I'm 62 yrs old and just want to play to have fun and not sweat so I play mostly mixed tape matches and occasionally BR mode with a pre-made squad. Since they put it in the game you either get rolled or you roll the other team. I bet I can count on both hands the amount of matches that were relatively close in over a 1000 games. If it worked they would all be close games but it doesn't turn out that way. Look I'm not the greatest but I enjoyed pubs when it was "take your best chance" lobbies and it was enjoyable. Now it's like every Scumpy out there is in the lobby and I can barely pull the trigger before I'm dead. What fun is that, that is what ranked is for. Why make pubs so sweaty? There are countless people who are now playing ranked because the pub matches are harder than the ranked matches. That should tell you something.

  • @ChronicTrauma43
    @ChronicTrauma43 10 месяцев назад

    I love the SBMM debate. But no one has ever thought about it like this…
    If everyone that plays pubs want to be able to just chill out and not have to “sweat”, you’re literally playing against people that have the same goal as you. Only ONE person can have the highest k/d, only ONE team can have the win. So naturally, in your head you want the win, and you want the k/d so even if you’re just chilling or vibing out, there’s still that human element of competition. No matter what, subconsciously you are still “trying”.
    The devs can work whatever algorithm they want to for matchmaking, but they can never control the behavior in the lobbies of the players playing the game. So like it or not, there are going to be people that want to win every match. There will always be at least one person in the lobby who plays as much as you do and is good at the game.
    What people should try to change is their attitudes towards winning and losing. If you go into pubs and just want to chill, you need to keep that energy whether you win or lose, and regardless of where you are on the leaderboards. Have the mindset that the numbers and stats just don’t matter because it’s pubs right? Who cares about results in pubs, because THAT is why ranked mode exists. Because in ranked, results actually matter.
    I welcome any debate or feedback on these thoughts 😅

  • @alexcarlone7967
    @alexcarlone7967 10 месяцев назад +1

    H3cz, get the PKA boys on the Podcast. Kyle would be a great episode considering his relationship with green (Being arrested, going to jail, FPS Russia, etc.)

  • @Goooooooooooooooober
    @Goooooooooooooooober 10 месяцев назад

    When I play rec league ball hockey, everyone has a different skill level. Many played in hockey leagues their whole life, some have played one season of rec league, some are complete beginners. I am a complete beginner and have so much fun.
    The truth is, CoD should be able to be like this.

  • @pittabreadchicken7926
    @pittabreadchicken7926 10 месяцев назад +1

    Timestamp???

  • @clemsin
    @clemsin 10 месяцев назад

    I’m playing world champs in pubs dude. I’m literally playing iridescent and crimson players in a regular kill confirmed. Shit is fucking aggravating when you just want to pub and chill.

  • @ksiss8616
    @ksiss8616 10 месяцев назад

    Please fkn help, I unlocked armory, n only mcw is the marksman rifle....I unlocked it, but that's not the assault rifle!! Why don't I see that gun in my armory unlock option

  • @jt23lfc
    @jt23lfc 10 месяцев назад +1

    Zinni is a genuinly good guy and everybody neecs a Hecz in thier lives

  • @ChillyEscimo
    @ChillyEscimo 10 месяцев назад

    Sbmm is so strong for exactly what Zinni said “You used to have to get good or get off.” We all forget cod “died” before Warzone because people were ass and quit. Now they’re trying to avoid people quitting again. It’s all designed to get everyone to play as much a possible to buy the battle pass and bundles.

  • @patrickthomas2650
    @patrickthomas2650 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM should be in ranked only and pubs should be like they used to be. If you have that one person who isn’t that great but runs into Scump that game, guess what, they’re queuing up the next game no matter what bc they enjoy to play video games and play COD

  • @CassTheNova
    @CassTheNova 10 месяцев назад

    I hope Eavesdrop stays it’s been the best podcast. Award winning getting shelved hurts will support what’s next for sure .
    We need Tumes Nade Scump Jude before it ends

  • @RoosterH3ad
    @RoosterH3ad 10 месяцев назад

    I couldn't agree more. People just can't agree to disagree. It's either your with em or your against em. Shit is just stupid.

  • @j3n1us
    @j3n1us 10 месяцев назад

    Easy fix is that u have ranked, then social SSBM, and then social non SSBM. Bcz sometimes I wanna have a hard game that’s not as sweaty as ranked and then sometimes I wanna be able to party with my friends that don’t really play without them getting destroyed every game.

  • @asaintseb
    @asaintseb 10 месяцев назад

    Wow how interesting! Another podcast with a guest you see everyday. Lack of preparation, no interesting nor catered questions for said guest. Just making a video for the sake of one. Good stuff, glad its over💚

  • @xctbl
    @xctbl 10 месяцев назад

    Zin started off saying they're not making COD accesible due to the all the attachments, yet complains they're making it accessible with SSBM.
    The fact of the matter is, the good players are salty the game isn't as easy as it used to be, but the bad players aren't dropping off because they're not eating shit.

  • @riazhaniff3399
    @riazhaniff3399 10 месяцев назад

    Man they answered it all wrong. We need SBMM removed because when I'm on the camo grind trying to get pistol kills, I don't need to match up against kitted out Holger classes hardscoping lanes and holding crosses. I want the chance to be able to use other weapons and not be completely outclassed by meta chasers. That's literally what ranked play is for.

  • @CineMaddox
    @CineMaddox 10 месяцев назад

    Start a podcast with Tumes! Upload once a month and just talk about what you've both been up to. Can't miss!

  • @VexKohld
    @VexKohld 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM is the dumbest thing ever lol regardless of what anyone says pubs was always for chilling and vibing out. If I want to sweat I’ll play ranked or make a team on a comp website.

  • @Action_jackson8
    @Action_jackson8 10 месяцев назад

    How can someone improve or see improvement with SBMM? The second u get better, u match with better players , and therefore u can’t improve your scores.

  • @yimsanity4054
    @yimsanity4054 10 месяцев назад

    Nice pod liked the perspective about money equaling happiness and the lies surrounding that. Money is a tool to use to improve aspects of your life but it cannot buy happiness. Thinking of happiness like a product at a supermarket is paradoxical and only leads to unhappiness. Just look at all the unhappy rich people in Beverly Hills where enough is never enough vs the happy poor kid in a third world country that's used to his circumstances and doesn't question them.

  • @J4MOKI
    @J4MOKI 10 месяцев назад

    W Zin. Speaking facts. Social media has definitely ruined everything imo. I love the internet and the easier it has made our lives but social media i think is a toxic addition we have all grown to be obsessed with and its getting more toxic by the day. I wish it was all gone tbf. How in 2023 trolls are still able to be a thing and arent made to show the true identity really baffles me. Companies just care about their clicks and impressions and it will probably never change. Best thing i ever did was delete them all.

  • @creezzyGG
    @creezzyGG 10 месяцев назад

    i agree with methodz, pubs were awesome back then and it also made some fans excited whether going against or teaming with any CDL Pro / Content Creator.... now its just sweat your ass off for what.. a match win ?

  • @Strldus
    @Strldus 10 месяцев назад

    Back in the day there was sbmm as well however there would be a mix of difficulty among the players which was extremely fun cus you could sometimes play against tryhards, middle of the pack players, or burgers walkers. In todays sbmm its not that i cant keep up tbh i could try my ass off every game but id just tire out sooner. another thing is if i do want to play against bots i can easily manipulate sbmm its not that hard, the point is, is that pubs shouldnt feel like rank.

  • @braydenwinans1270
    @braydenwinans1270 10 месяцев назад

    Zinny is right and you are wrong hecz. The problem with your theory is over half the pop of call of duty are casuals that don’t care about getting better they come here to have a good time and let steam off. No one is getting better except the top 2% because the bad players keep playing bad players and the good players keep playing the good players. I don’t give a crap about getting better I just wanna game with the boys and they can’t even play with me because they only have 2 hours a day to play. So fuck your theory

  • @McFrosttyy
    @McFrosttyy 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM makes the game sooooo try hard. Ranked play should be for that. Pubs should be for relaxed casual play.

  • @DrPubz
    @DrPubz 10 месяцев назад

    I don't mind it being irregular episodes TBH.
    It's sad you're killing the show Hecz :(

  • @2033rabbit
    @2033rabbit 10 месяцев назад

    With the SBMM and hutch tweet my response would be it ruins the fun. In og mw3 there was always the randomness when I loaded into every game, I could drop a nuke or the other team coukd you never knew. I never cared about getting clapped but I always knew it was random wether or not the players were better. Now every time I que a lobby I know for a fact I will never get a nuke and neither will the other team and it takes the fun out. No one streaks no one randomly pops off.

  • @ryleybulmer6282
    @ryleybulmer6282 10 месяцев назад

    I try to not skip through the ads but 10 MINUTES?! Hecz bro we love you but you gotta speed these ad reads up

  • @settleflame1
    @settleflame1 10 месяцев назад

    @10:00 what changed was lobbies now disband after every match. Back in the day you would find a lobby you liked playing in and then stayed in that lobby until you left. Now you are never playing against the same people.

  • @oath_xiii
    @oath_xiii 10 месяцев назад

    Could rename it to something like Eavesdrop: Tapped In; if you do go the remote route. (if you do decide to use the name i give u full rights to the Tapped In IP)

  • @michaelalmes1588
    @michaelalmes1588 10 месяцев назад

    The issue is there are much more lower skilled then higher skilled individuals. So back in the day, the lower skilled individuals seldomly ran into high skilled players, where as the high skilled players didn’t have to only play against high skilled. I play about 2 hours and hate getting on and having to try so hard. I’d like to get on, have a beer and relax.

  • @watchfirst-p7z
    @watchfirst-p7z День назад

    White Ruth Taylor Angela Taylor Amy

  • @bikeboy152012
    @bikeboy152012 10 месяцев назад

    I watch all the OpTic poadcasts but the Eavesdrop is my fave. Its more intimate. Sad day...

  • @nixedd
    @nixedd 10 месяцев назад

    SBMM is crazy because CoD isn't based on a good server connection but rather on the skill of a player which can have a negative on the connection to a lobby nobody wants to packet burst all the time or get hoes bc of ping diff

  • @carperharvey1832
    @carperharvey1832 10 месяцев назад

    Zinni's Lower back hurting carrying the top back🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @thePastafarian88
    @thePastafarian88 10 месяцев назад +1

    I really appreciate your words zinni. Im 25, struggling to finish an engineering degree, working internships for little pay to build some credibility, working in restaurants to fill gaps, all while seeing all the people i graduated highschool with finishing school, getting good jobs, buying their starter homes, some are continuing their education and getting their masters and/or PHDs. Its hard not to compare yourself to other people and feel like shit for it. Youre right though. Even though other people seem to be ahead of me, you saying that helped me realize that theres no reason to compare my peers' acomplishments to mine yet because im not done. I know ill be there some day, just gotta put my head down and work on myself. Youre the man zin ❤

  • @jamespopcorn11
    @jamespopcorn11 10 месяцев назад

    Hecz missing the fact he played gb and ranked is where you play people who are as good as you or better. Pubs before sbmm were more fun, sometimes you get slammed other times you pop off.

  • @Slayer-tv8ub
    @Slayer-tv8ub 10 месяцев назад

    I have been having a lot of fun on mw3. It’s definitely a breath of fresh air. You can clearly see the skill gap in this game and I always look forward to getting into a gunfight with the top fragger on the other team and at the end seeing who came out on top is always fun.

  • @PlagueFather
    @PlagueFather 10 месяцев назад

    Why call it quits? I didnt think anyone expected it every week or anything like that but I get though. Respect

  • @Jrizz
    @Jrizz 10 месяцев назад

    I'll say this... money is a huge struggle for me and my family unfortunately but I don't let it get to me. or try not to. of course at times it does but for the most part I just try to focus on my family and what I do have here on earth that makes me happy. mental health is real and its hard. just gotta keep goin forwards

  • @scottblack8134
    @scottblack8134 10 месяцев назад

    Gotta love these guys it's not fun goin even in pubs to sweaty how u think the guys getting stomped by pros goin 88/1 you think they don't wanna win and play an eazy game 😂

  • @aRedTalonPro
    @aRedTalonPro 10 месяцев назад

    H3CZ and Crim6 need to collab more. Please please please. Methodz is the perfect trio!

  • @BrutusCV_
    @BrutusCV_ 10 месяцев назад

    100% agree with Medthodz, sbmm doesn't belong in pub matches.

  • @Kurosaki__
    @Kurosaki__ 10 месяцев назад

    Never understand zinni hate. EVERY single stream you see it. Shit is so weird. Gen z kids need help.