I agree. I clicked on the video hoping to see how Matt incorporates some of his favorite throws from double lapel. It's a video worth watching but yes, I had the same idea you did.
I appreciate the upload. I use the double lapel grip in Judo a lot as it provides a lot of versatility in throwing left and right. Though, it seems like this is more of an instructional for people who use it for stiff arming and how to combat it. I do not do that but it's good to see how people would try and break down that grip.
Dude I LOVE your icon. Sometimes I'll crossgrip, drag their shoulder down, and throw the big over the back grip to get the same position. I learned this by watching Iliadis, he's one of my fave Judoka and my Nage Waza is more similar to his than any of my other Judo heroes(though not near as good). After you drag from the crossgrip, and then throw the over the back grip, you can step deep between their legs and do a Georgian style half hip throw without adjusting your grips.
Is the cross grip on the arm (arm drag) legal for Judo competition? I got a shido against me for cross gripping the lapel just this weekend with the new rules.
@josh its not really strinking.. think of it like collar tying and bending their arms. Judo doesn't allow strikes either its more like a compression that isn't very strong and easy to surpass if you know what your doing. But a lot of jiujitsuka aren't to worried about the takedown points (and I'm a judoka who plays by bjj rules) but this is not necessarily striking. Just bend it and arm drag.
Hi Please can any judoka's clarify. I'm new to the Judo scene. Are judo chops allowed in judo practice or competition?From what I google, its only allowed in pre-arranged sparring. I also saw another of Matt's videos where a palm strike was used to release Uki's grip and wasn't sure if its allowed. But I love the ideas behind this technique. A sharp strong pull down directly at the elbow might work just thte same though. I'm based in the UK which is under the British Judo Association which is part of the IJF if that has any bearing.
Matt Higgins: It's been a good while since I've trained, and to answer your question, I have used forearm strikes to break my uki's grip depending on what grip I was currently using. You can do this by using your grip as a strike. Example: As uki has a right hand grip of your left lapel, you grab your lapel with your thumb on the inside of the gi. Simultaneously palm strike the uki's right hand at the wrist and grip the sleeve as you pull away with your right hand. Be careful as you practice this. Nails will be torn, and I know from experience. I'm an advocate for dirty tactics hence why I really didn't care whether I won or not in competition. I use Judo for eliminating life threatening behavior. Enjoy Judo Matt. Realize that while you train, competition and self defense are the same. Use common sense and fill your cup of the tremendous history Judo. I'm open for debate. Oos!
Cristian P: Hey Cristian: I hope you understand that there is no such thing as street Jujitsu or street Judo. It's just Jujitsu and Judo! Are you assessing whether or not to take up a Japanese art?
The are legal provided you attack immediately. The referee is suppose to have an understanding that once you get into a non-standard grip you may need a moment to move into your attack, but if you don't make an attempt, it's a Shido.
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I agree. I clicked on the video hoping to see how Matt incorporates some of his favorite throws from double lapel. It's a video worth watching but yes, I had the same idea you did.
Can we get some more videos from Matt? That was amazing!
Fantastic ! Gonna sneakily try this at karate tonight !
I appreciate the upload. I use the double lapel grip in Judo a lot as it provides a lot of versatility in throwing left and right. Though, it seems like this is more of an instructional for people who use it for stiff arming and how to combat it. I do not do that but it's good to see how people would try and break down that grip.
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Dude I LOVE your icon. Sometimes I'll crossgrip, drag their shoulder down, and throw the big over the back grip to get the same position. I learned this by watching Iliadis, he's one of my fave Judoka and my Nage Waza is more similar to his than any of my other Judo heroes(though not near as good). After you drag from the crossgrip, and then throw the over the back grip, you can step deep between their legs and do a Georgian style half hip throw without adjusting your grips.
Thanks for the nice comments guys
Epic camera shaking when Uke gets throwed!
Very nice, my sons are in wrestling and this is something that would be applicable in both disciplines. Thanks for the work.
Is the cross grip on the arm (arm drag) legal for Judo competition? I got a shido against me for cross gripping the lapel just this weekend with the new rules.
The description does not match the video. It should be something like "Breaking down double lapel grip."
Please, more judo and wrestling throws!
Could this be interpreted as a double handed grip break under the new rules?
@josh its not really strinking.. think of it like collar tying and bending their arms. Judo doesn't allow strikes either its more like a compression that isn't very strong and easy to surpass if you know what your doing. But a lot of jiujitsuka aren't to worried about the takedown points (and I'm a judoka who plays by bjj rules) but this is not necessarily striking. Just bend it and arm drag.
Wonderful, just wonderful video.
Very nice
He uploads great videos all the time on his RUclips channel, I believe his channel name is also "Beyond Grappling".
frigging awesome!! I wish this was up on monday i coulda used it in class!! oh well next time for sure thanks
this is one excellent video
thank you
Hi
Please can any judoka's clarify. I'm new to the Judo scene. Are judo chops allowed in judo practice or competition?From what I google, its only allowed in pre-arranged sparring. I also saw another of Matt's videos where a palm strike was used to release Uki's grip and wasn't sure if its allowed. But I love the ideas behind this technique. A sharp strong pull down directly at the elbow might work just thte same though. I'm based in the UK which is under the British Judo Association which is part of the IJF if that has any bearing.
Matt Higgins:
It's been a good while since I've trained, and to answer your question, I have used forearm strikes to break my uki's grip depending on what grip I was currently using. You can do this by using your grip as a strike.
Example: As uki has a right hand grip of your left lapel, you grab your lapel with your thumb on the inside of the gi. Simultaneously palm strike the uki's right hand at the wrist and grip the sleeve as you pull away with your right hand. Be careful as you practice this. Nails will be torn, and I know from experience. I'm an advocate for dirty tactics hence why I really didn't care whether I won or not in competition. I use Judo for eliminating life threatening behavior. Enjoy Judo Matt. Realize that while you train, competition and self defense are the same. Use common sense and fill your cup of the tremendous history Judo.
I'm open for debate. Oos!
Great Job
Can this also be use on the streets or is it just sport because I want to know if there's also,street judo like there is self defense street jiu jitsu
Cristian P:
Hey Cristian:
I hope you understand that there is no such thing as street Jujitsu or street Judo. It's just Jujitsu and Judo! Are you assessing whether or not to take up a Japanese art?
great stuff i like the instructor
The are legal provided you attack immediately. The referee is suppose to have an understanding that once you get into a non-standard grip you may need a moment to move into your attack, but if you don't make an attempt, it's a Shido.
So hard to use my wrestling when the guy grabs my hi
Nice vid! Keep it upa,
how about getting Ronda to do some judo vids too. I'm sure eddie's got some connections with her.
More Judo!
I’d be trying to break the arm as quickly as possible
Nice
I LOVE JUDO
cool art " in theory" but don't expect it to work in the streets in a real fight against a resisting squirming hay maker throwing attacker
excellent mat ,,that is illias aka russian grip
Wait never mind there is I 4got that in Japan the police men don't have guns they use they're judo to take an opponent down
See this is lapel defence, no wrist lock overly complication twisting bullshit.
MrGhostly12321 Where have you been learning martial arts? A wrist lock isn't that complicated
JUDO +
this is no longer valid ... new rules state that you cannot strike the arm