UNBELIEVABLE Found Footage of the creation of TMNT!!
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40 years of TMNT that doc should have been funded by Paramount who owns TMNT now. This is history and Paramount should have done more to back this project.
They keep looking for that big budget home run show on Paramount+ and striking out when they could be backing lots of smaller projects with consistent audiences. Maybe after all their failures, they’ll learn something, but probably not.
ARMAGGON existed in Pete's sketchbook THAT far back?! That's CRAZY!
I always felt he should have been a bigger villain than he was. Frustrating we never even got a toy of him.
Not just that but he looks AMAZING. Clearly the reference image used for Adventures!
Wow, I always assumed Bebop and Rocksteady were creations of the cartoon creators. Great to see Eastman and Laird came up with those two also!
One thing that's been omitted lately, is that the original colors for mikey and donnie were switched. Don would've had the skin color and mask color as the original mikey figure. And mikey vice versa.
GIJOE vehicles had sprues for parts, not the figures until like 1992 or 1993. They were what they were mentioning being like model kits. This would have been 1987 or something, right?
This video is spectacular, it dates so wonderfully. I hope that sculptor can also make the other Punk frogs Rasptin and Atila, they would all be with those! because he sculpted Genghis and Napoleon. How great Kevin and Peter look in vintage playmate size, they could also make Granitor and those new characters look spectacular, even Snailcool could do it, greetings 👏🏻🇦🇷
While the kickstarter extras sound cool, the prices are ridiculous for the good stuff.. $90 for a book(ive gotten coffee table books for far less new ), $80 for 4 and a half inch figur, etc.. Yikes
yea and neca announced a kevin fig yesterday should be around 35 bucks
Mr booyakasha141 where did they announce it on Twitter or on something else
It’s a 4 hour multi disc blu ray and the bonus features are many discs. We don’t even know how many yet as we have so much archive to share. We are also producing the toys in house in super low run exclusive limited capacity. This is barely break even for figures like these. You won’t find kevin and Peter approved figures by Varner anywhere else. This will all only be on this Kickstarter.
I mean, it's a Kickstarter. Backing a grassroots project & getting it funded is the reward, it's not going to be a $10 dvd at Walmart. Of course they have to amortize the production cost of the film itself, as well as the bonuses.
Peter Laird has always been in it for the artistic vision first. It's nice to know he's always been like that from this footage. It's a nice reflection of his work on turtles later down the road before Paramount bought the farm.
"Masters of the Universe died this year." Ouch!
great behind the scenes TMNT content! I’m excited for their new project
We need a direct follow-up to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3, complete with practical effects and Turtle suits!
It's called Tmnt the next mutation 😅
Or TMNT 2007 if you think about it
Nope. Pull a halloween and ghostbusters and make the sequel be right after part 1 movie. Use those designs.
@@powerturtlebustersI'd be fine with keeping SoTO in continuity at least. Maybe not Turtles III though lol.
No, I've thought about this... get the guys who made cobra Kai, and do a practical effects and costumes, reboot of turtles 3 as a limited mini series.
I find it interesting how in those initial talks they're mentioning Leonardo being the one in red, but it makes sense. The original turtles all wear red, so it stands to reason that the leader would be the one to retain the color that all of them wore. But I also get why in the final version of the toyline it ended up being Raphael that kept the red, as red is a color associated with anger and hot bloodedness. Though ironically, this was an aspect of his personality that didn't make it into the 80s cartoon.
Isn't this exactly what Dan said?
@@jalengatton Wha? I was talking about Leonardo originally being planned to be the one keeping the red while the other 3 would change their colors, which Dan didn't say at all (unless I overlooked something?). Dan mentioned the differentiating of the brothers for the sake of marketability, so he mentioned the changing of colors in that sense, but not anything about the original plan being Leonardo to keep the red and later it being changed to Raph being the one to keep the red, which was the specific point that I was making.
@@FancifulDancingStar I swear he said it, but I'm sick and it's been a week since I watched the video so I could be wrong. But I remember him mentioning that the "face" of the Turtles keeping red would be coop
Saw a video similar to this a while back for the unmade TMNT4. It was gonna have a gritty turtle from another dimension named Kirby named after Jack Kirby. Would have loved to have seen it. I don't think TMNT 3 is that bad. They could have made a 4th one.
It's incredible that this was recorded! As if they somehow knew that the Turtles were going to be the most popular characters of all time.
I think with the sprue thing they were talking about the vehicles being model kits and the parts being on sprue. GI Joe wouldn't have the weapons on the sprue until the early 90's and this interview was sometime around '87.
Issac and Randall mentioned you would do a video posted today of your reaction to all of this! Us Turtle fans are definitely getting spoiled with all this great unreleased footage content. ❤
I love how they strategize on how each Turtles should be their own unique color. Seeing that just made history for what made the Turtles special today.
This is the most excited I've ever been during a marketing meeting... And I know at the end everyone was like.... Oh I think went well... The mask thing makes sense, I think they liked your Punk warthog ...
Interesting that they blamed the fall of MOTU on fantasy going out of fashion. Based on... a couple of fantasy lines ended? Most lines end eventually, and correlation does not imply causation. Of course marketing is more art than science and they probably weren't aware of Mattel's over-shipping issue that really ended the line. Anyway, fascinating stuff Dan! I wish there were archival videos like this for the origins of MOTU :)
Kids grew up, that's why most lines only go about 3 years. He-Man was passe by the late 80's and it didn't help that on She-Ra's show He-Man would show up and be outclassed by his sister. Of course, the competition in the 80's was off the chart. It's not like today where there really isn't any innovative ideas that catch on and have mass appeal.
I remember them posting hours of footage that never got used in the Turtle Power Documentary.
Mostly interviews with people. So they have plenty of footage to work with.
We also kept on shooting from the day we delivered the doc to paramount. Including the ACTUAL first reunion of kevin and Pete. Years before the other fake doc reunion.
I would like to see Playmates, Neca, or Super7 make figures of Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird for 40th Anniversary.
NECA announced yesterday that there will be a NYCC Exclusive figure of Kevin Eastman (as Garbage Man) from the 1990 TMNT Movie.
well you are in luck there is an option to get figures of Kevin and Peter done by a former Playmates designer for this kickstarter.
Also, I can imagine the 50th anniversary a better time for that!
I love those clips! I've always thought Peter was the one who was really invested in the turtles as characters. Kevin always seemed more interested in comics in general, and making fun stuff. Good combination for a partnership.
Great footage, and then they got rich af.
Does anyone know when his TMNT toy book is coming out? Is there a kickstarter or any info out there?
Not even officially confirmed to be a book yet I don't think. Just heavily implied. Since photography is almost finished I hope we'll hear news soon
Bringing up Isaac Asimov 😮😊
Disney need to take on board some of this info for how they've handled Star Wars and Marvel over the last 5 years or more. Kids want characters that stand out from each other and look cool. Not all in similar looking outfits or middle aged women in brown.
Omg, that kickstarter is blowing my mind!!! I hope I can come up with the funds in time to get those figures 😮
What?! Thank you for this, I’ve had my eye on this kickstarter but it’s SOOO expensive for the package with all this content. And I thought Kevin Hated bebop, but he basically created him?? What’s the story there?
Ball buster 😂
Do you know why the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles came out just in time for the huge craze after cartoons like MOTU and Ghostbusters? Because they’re Turtles in Time 😆
Wow thanks heaps for sharing this , it’s just mind blowing seeing this history, the colour of each turtles first discussion, can’t wait to see this documentary. Thanks Pixal.
For those complaining that the Kickstarter is expensive: don't worry, prices are in Canadian dollars 😂 I wish I could have afforded the $5000 pledge 🥺 Also, those upset about such high prices to get coffee book and figures: they're EXCLUSIVE.
As someone who has been sitting in some pitch meetings in the entertainment industry, I can at least confirm that nothing about the format of these discussions has changed. The distributor is only interested in cash - and the people who pitch just want to create something cool.
Awesome job dan drop a like for you
I can’t believe one of my favorites, Armaggon was an idea in the beginning! And the cyborg lynx sounds like Verminator-X sans football foot(thank goodness they killed that part lol) I had seen & knew about the Bebop & Rocksteady sketches before
There’s absolutely no reason this should have been filmed but holy hell, seeing the actual moments of creation is INCREDIBLE!
I don’t think the Joes weapons came on a sprue until the early 90s, this would predate it. Perhaps they meant the vehicles being in sprues and having to be assembled? Or did I miss something?
new officially licensed steve varner tmnt figures??? Whut just happened?
That's got me excited! Though Varner (edit- Studios) has done most if not all TMNT figures since the beginning, if we want to be technical about it lol.
Insane that footage exists 😁 this is gonna be an epic documentary!
This is incredible footage! Thanks for sharing, looking forward to the full documentary.
My mind will never be the same again! THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing this!❤
This is awesome!!!!!!! Also neca is making the Eastman garbage man from the 90 movie
Awesome video!!, this are great news… the art of the figures are done by my good friend Alejandro Espinoza
I backed this bad boy day 1 needed those figures lol I'm so happy how intuned Peter and Laired were and still are with there product and audience fantastic 👏
"figure cost you $3.99" - I can't even watch this after that... I mean... as a collector myself... this just hurts 😢
This is great. People used to have so much passion. Now they hire people who know nothing about the product
This is amazing, also I always consider turtle as sci -fi not fantasy as well, whenever it’s get too fantasy I’m not into it
I will pass on them / i like the classic teenage mutant ninja turtles and villains toys / i will stick with them / or if they can be remade with a little more detail on them / but keeping them the same size / or make them a little bit taller / and use like a rubbery plastic / i think would be cool
90s joe copy tmnt.tmnt came out before 90s joes. And playmates not wanting tmnt to be silly is captured perfectly in the toys. All the early figures etc look like a threat. The cartoon and later figures is where it got silly. The first couple tmnt waves doesnt match the later waves. Why i like the toy versions of tmnt. Its its own thing. Playmates shine when they arent doing the exact cartoon designs. And them not being fantasy and being in the real world is key. Kevin seem to be the most there for tmnt, but peter is the tmnt. He holds it close close to him.
Varner did a good job with the 2012 line too, and they got to do their own takes on the Turtles with those first 4 figures. The honestly look a lot cooler than the 2012 series designs IMO.
This is amazing!
THe bundle I would want to get would cost me about AU$ 5,414 and I don't have that type of money laying around
All of the items are available as add ons. You can build a bundle you want without using the tiers.
THis is really cool, love the idea but $580 in order to get the figures included?!.....ooohhh nooooo hard pass. that's a bit extreme given today's economy. This could have been a simple production release on Prime or Netflix under Nacelle.
Non of those places want docs like this anymore. They don’t think audiences want them. Believe me we have made films for them in the past and nacelle makes the worst deals in the film business.
You can order the figures on their own. All items are available as add ons in the build your own cart section.
Ball buster lol that’s an insult not a name for a bad guy 😂
...the pocket full of pens on Peter is 100% spot on (even got them on the correct side)and I love it
Wow this is crazy
Leonardo leads its in the song and both start with L it makes sense
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PIXEL DAN IT'S COMPARISON TIME 🎶
This is ridiculous. To see them flipping through concept drawings of other characters, so incredible!!!! I hope Neca is watching!! How did you get this?!
We (turtle power documentary guys) are releasing all our archives to the world in our current massive Kickstarter. We sent a taste to Dan to review. This is a good one.
Come check out the museum exhibit in Dover NH.
Yay, only 500 dollars...
All items are available as add ons on their own.
@@isaacelliott-fisher9272
Yeah, and after adding it up, if you want the complete blu-ray and all 3 figures with autographs, it's actually about $600.
Even just the blu-ray alone is $150.
This is so cool. Thanks for sharing!
Never go full fantasy!
Sorry need help with this kickstarter. I really just want the figures but not sure what is the best way to do so. Please help
If you just want the toys hit up the “build your own bundle” and you can just add the toy add ons.
Wow this is incredible!
I think from a storytelling perspective it is impossible to come back from silly, fantastic, unrealistic to realistic and grounded. Conversly it is possible to add fantastic, silly elements to a grounded series in order to extend its shelf life. As such starting grounded is key to both understanding the market and leaving room to grow in as needed.
In a way, Playmates got their wish in the villains all being human. Other than Krang (who was in a humanoid android body), Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady & Baxter Stockman were all human (originally, at least).
Love your shirt😃
Thanks for the Documentary, Exclusive behind the Scenes History of the TMNT!!! 🐢🐢🐢🐢👍👍
Those figures of Peter and Kevin would fit with NECA toons, and now I need something like that.
Dude ' stomping hard on MOTU but how could He know they're were talking just a break.
That's wild, they were thinking 3 years and tnnt is fine, and yet it's still here. Ever green toy brand.
he said "when you open a gi joe box" i think he meant the vehicles that come unassembled. as this was before the 90s figures
Can anyone make a video explaining the tiers and add-ons?
Hey ya for sure. Great idea. I’ll make one and post it on the Definitive Film RUclips channel.
Yes this is awesome info. I’m already a backer! Looking forward to the documentary and book
It's absolutely amazing! I'm all in for this documentary!
I picked this one up primarily for the head sculpt. It looks like a really nice figure. I hope to be able to get the platinum version because that one looks superb!
You'd be surprised at how many people don't know the toy line had so much to do with the evolution of TMNT.
Out of all the TMNT stuff we've seen this year, these figures might just be the most exciting announcement of them all!
I really like it when you highlight kickstarters. I end up backing a lot of them.
Why is the kickstarter soo expensive
It’s a MASSIVE collector set, all the content is exclusive and the toys are made in house in a limited number. Believe me we are barely breaking even if that at these prices. That’s the truth.
@isaacelliott-fisher9272 Oh you're part of the team? That's awesome! This is pretty exciting stuff man. Not sure why so many people think a kickstarter project is going to cost the same as a Walmart DVD or something lol.
Also the truth is, the size of set this set of discs it would be the same price at a Walmart. It’s a ton of discs. It’s like buying two seasons of a tv show.
What year did this take place?
The events in the video? This is January 1987
TMNT Concept Art ! This is the way !
Wow this is super cool! The punked out commando looks like Duke Nukem
Cowabunga time thanks for showing this cant wait to see this 🍕🐢
Some did not watch a single minute of this video, they just commented on the title. lol
glad u are still doing toys....vintage toys
Awesome ❤❤❤😊🎉🎉🎉🎉😱💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
its a must for sure!!! amazing!
Awesome 🤩
Yes
This is pure magic to see Dan, having only just stepped into making action figures it is incredibly educational to see the sacred TMNT prototype, to hear the conversations that kicked off legend - nothing short of inspiring!
Is going to be on dvd
@@jrcarpenter2981 it’s on blu ray and digital. Exclusively on Kickstarter.
Hii
Idk if we need a sequel, we need to leave it in peace
We don’t need a sequel to the documentary that the video’s title is referring to? Wait, did you think he was talking about a sequel to last year’s theatrical film? Watch the video next time and stop making foolish assumptions, junior. Do better. Git Gud and get some help and scram, son.
@@FFFFPPPP and I meant the documentary
We don’t need a sequel to that poor looking new age design
@@righteousgreek2161 wa tf did you Just say bro🤨
Bro what?🤨
What do you mean WE?
Someone obviously didnt watch the video. Go watch the video and then come tell us how it feels to have egg on your face.
@@FFFFPPPP ur werid
A sequel to the original. Forget about 2 and 3
The proto bebop and rocksteady are rad af
Dude this footage isn't "found" ....just forgotten...I've seen this a few times already in a documentary.
Ya we made the documentary called Turtle Power. The only place that footage was ever used. We used a few minutes at most. There is almost 2 hours of this meeting alone. We are now releasing a Kickstarter for a second documentary with all our archives as part of the campaign including that meeting footage.