This is 100% what this younger generation needs to hear.... the truth. People think that because they see a video, play a game, or watch a movie, they can just show up and do whatever they want. But too many of them aren't willing to put in the work. Loved the frankness of this conversation. Keep up the great work, Jake.
@@jakezweigThank you Jake for all you do. I was working serving the military & the sergeants told me that this younger generation isn't ready because they are spoiled. You are helping them face hard truths & they need that!!!! You are helping them to not see this as a fairytale Hollywood movies produce about being in the military!!
@@Cliford-pn5ux he basically broke down how they had to hold down post for days maybe weeks at a time so they didn’t give away the position, not being able to comfortably use the bathroom 😂, ect. I definitely have a different level of respect for real snipers definitely not easy💯
The difference between the man going to prison and the man flying home on the C130 is the government sanctioned the ladder. I’ll remember this till the day I die. During my second semester in college, I took a US military history course. One of the first questions the professor asked the class was “What is war?” And after a few minutes of nonanswers and students quoting the definition the professor said “War is nothing more than government-sanctioned murder.” And no one could argue that because once you get past all the glamor, propaganda, romanticism he was right. Doesn't matter if you're a rifleman in the Army or you're in a tier one unit. You signed a contract and the government spent a lot of money training you to kill.
Wow so much insight for a wannabe who knows nothing but thinks she knows something bc she took a college course. Stay in your safe bubble, girl. The real world isn't for you. Embarrassing.
Have to hand it to Jake for keeping it real for a lot of these dudes. Combat is not what people think it is. It is a double edged sword. If you train for years and never get to see it, it can feel heart breaking and you can feel an experience of regret. On the other hand, if you do see combat, it will stick with you the rest of your life. I was a Corpsman who saw combat (not spec ops, but with Marine Infantry) which for me mostly consisted of a lot of patrols and taking care of my buddies that got hit. Not much cool about that except for being able to be there for my bros.
That farm work comment was so spot on! Harvest and spring planting is 16 hour days if not more. Those kids are so fkng strong it's shocking. Lifting machinery by themselves, getting kicked by steers. I was just a trucker in those places but i can see how kids who grow up like that have the tenacity and work ethic to succeed at Socom roles.
@Chris R Imo... I think that is why I think that the WWII-generation (that was born in the decades during or just before both World Wars) is often referred to as the "Greatest Generation" that American probably ever saw. Many of those young men who went off to fight in both WWs (but especially WWII) grew up and were raised on farms and working outside and doing hard heavy work was cetainly nothing new or unknown to them... and also working on a farm would also have the added benefit of eating pretty well (or, at leat I would assume). So going into the military and spending many hours outside wasnt exactly a drastic transition. Hell, if anything, it might have even been an easier life for them.
Preach on Jake. Farm boy strength is a thing for sure. I did not go SOCOM, but my experiences on the farm growing up certainly provided me with plenty of grit and determination to succeed in the Marine Corps. I was shoveling chit in hot & dusty turkey houses every day after school and during summers. Daily, I had to cull 25 lb turkeys with my bare hands and carry dozens of them at a time for hundreds of yards and bury them in the dead pit. It was savage and the smell of death was all around me. When I got home, I had my regular farm chores to finish including tending cattle and bucking hay bales. When the opportunity came to enlist, I grabbed it, knowing it would be an easier life.
@paullittle9187 Speaking of "serial killers".... Jason Moss was an 19yr old college student who had aspirations for joining the FBI or some other 3-letter agency... and who became a pen-pal with and eventually got it in his head that he actually wanted to meet and interview serial-killer and sex offender, John Wayne Gacy. Moss would go on to meet Gacy while he was in prison in 1994 less than two months before Gacy was executed via lethal injection for the killing of over thirty young teenage boys from 1967 to 1978. Moss asserted that he became Gacy's "last victim" during their face-to-face meeting and felt overpowered and manipulated by him in the same way that Gacy manipulated his other victims. Just over a decade later after his meeting with Gacy, Jason Moss would take his own life. While it is certainly not this severe in most cases... this is *exactly* what Jake is talking about. The personalities that you WILL encounter in the SOCOM community (and in combat-arms in general) are downright SAVAGES... and about the closest that you may ever come to meeting personalities that are even remotely like that (outside of SOCOM or Combat Arms) are in jails & prisons... and especially the more hardened & violent inmates. Showing up to a SEAL Team or any Team in SOCOM (or military Combat Arms in general)... is just like walking into a prison cellblock... where the Big are just waiting to eat the little. ...Still want that Trident??🔱
Jake is describing the actual “job” of SOCOM. He isn’t saying any wrong, let’s put what he is saying in a different perspective. Here’s a question. Sure there is glamour of being an attorney, but why would you want to be an attorney and you hate to read? Reading is what an attorney does everyday, the most successful attorneys have a top shelf understanding of law through thousands of hours spent reading and studying. A SOCOM operator is a gritty, violence liking person. If you don’t like gritty life and violence, why would you be a SOCOM operator? That’s the actual job everyday.
People are easily swayed by the pretty uniforms and the title and forget the real job. Watching Saving Private Ryan is good reality check in what to expect.
I was pre med as well, graduated in 99 with BS in Biology. I chose to go in because I felt I needed the discipline. It was peacetime. That was it. War kicked off, and got to do some stuff and loved most of it. Like Jake said there isn’t anything on the horizon. So, you have to find your own reasons for doing it. You have to be 110% committed to those reasons as well, especially if you try to go into any high speed low drag unit. If you don’t have those reasons, and you aren’t committed, you’ll be one of the first drops. Hell, every day for almost 9 years in the Marines was spent either doing land nav, field day, or at the armory cleaning weapons. That’s it, literally. Find your own “because” and be committed to it.
MUCH Respect Jake!! It’s GREAT to see someone keep it 100% real! I feel like with this generation everyone wants to know EVERYTHING they’re going to do and they want this guide they’ll prepare them and think that’s it. A big part of SF, SEALS, Force Recon, Rangers, PJ’s etc is the “NOT knowing”. It’s all sort of the process. Not knowing what’s coming because in combat you NEVER know wtf is coming. It’s fluid and I’m glad the Military is keeping its standards. Keep up the good work!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
As a parson who worked corrections for a career, you are spot on. There is a major difference between and inmate and a convict. Lots of military dudes in the system who couldn't transition to civilian life and became true convicts after separation from service
@@jakezweig Glad you bring up fighting too. First time a young person who has not been in a fight before and gets hit in the nose and become combat ineffective instead of working through it..this stuff matters. Grit matters!
You just mentioned jiu-jitsu! I’m a smaller 58 year old man but I LOVE these stories of BUDs failures and successes. It inspires me even after 25 years grinding away on the mat and supplemental workouts, to keep embracing that little bit of artificially created, voluntary misery; but it’s all worth it. I just subscribed a few days ago. I really appreciate the content and honest interaction you have with these young prospective or aspiring BUDs candidates.
Right ? Jake fires up more older guys, many with prior service, than he might know. Tells it like it is. A GREAT mentor and role model to the young people. Proud of this guy
This is a fire talk brotha. There were a lot of times I was with you on this chat but now ima take that advice going to the woods every weekend. Ima really keep the grit and moving forward. There is pieces of me that wanted to stay with his questions but it’s something about what you give to the community, not the status that comes from it. You solidified what I needed. Thanks for the push. Jake Zweig the legend.
Thank you Jake appreciate the real information you bring. Continuing my education to direct commission as a Chaplain and working to be physically ready for Airborne school.
Jake the mentorship that you are giving all of these young cats is priceless. You tell it how it is with no shits given. Just from watching this video and listening you can tell that this young man’s soul was broken from your education and harsh reality facts that you just dropped on him. So many young men out there Have been seduced by all of the video games and videos that they play or have seen regarding what you guys do. They don’t realize that the entire point of being a special operations operator and all of the training is to make you the most lethal and efficient killer you can be. That literally is the job description and many, such as this young man cannot grasp that reality. Be well man And keep doing what you were doing.
I can tell you right now as a former medic 4NO in the Air Force……our training was a year. We had guys who washed out of PJ to end up being 4N flunked the medical phase of PJ training in which is well over 6 months at a level one trauma unit . They told us the medical training is insane.
This is my motivation. I've wanted to be in spec ops since I was 14. I've spent 7 years between the work force and college and this shit ain't it B. I can't get those career fields out of my mind. Think of it this way, where else can you get the experience that is being an operator? Where else can you sky dive, scuba dive, shoot guns, and save lives? No where. You need to spend a bit more time looking into these career fields and choose the one that's right for you. If you're interested in medicine, go Army and get an 18X contract. Their scope of practice is by far more clinical. Pararescue is more emergency medicine. It's taken me a year to get to the PAST standard. I couldn't get my long distance swim conditioning down. Not only that, your Air Force recruiter will drag their feet with you. They don't need you. It took 3 months just to get in contact with one. And an additional 6 months to get all my paperwork and backgrounds in order. All that before MEPS. AF is commitment B. Get in touch with the dude's from Ones Ready if you're really set on the Air Force. EDIT: He ain't joking about savages dude. I've heard of dude's fighting just get on an helicopter to go help people. To me, I'd be in that shit too.
Best video ever. A good example of the savagery of special forces is Tarleton's dragoons at the Battle of Waxhaws. Cold blooded killers all. If you're not a natural born fighter, then join the navy and have fun with all the advanced technologies they have. There, you'll always get warm meals and sleep indoors.
For real man, people think it's a joke. I remember the biggest reality check was when my squad leader told me, "Everybody wants to be a grunt until it's time to do grunt shit." And that was just the beginning of the hardest field op we ever did. At the end I saw people I thought were way more savage than me heat case and fall to the ground during our hike back. We had no more water and nobody knew when this shit was going to end. That's what primes your for the reality of the job and you gotta embrace it. Or else you will start to feel real sorry for yourself
Man if everyone can comprehend this man’s understanding he basically just told this guy that the shit is not something you can wake up and want to be it’s actually part of these motherfuckers journey even explaining the criminal aspect he’s not saying these guys a literal criminals but within polarity who wrong and who’s right within the exchange of life or death that why a lot of criminals and team guys get god like complex we call it which sometimes needs to be balanced out with these hands but wow even understanding the physiological just being around that environment it’s like being around convicts as well because of how sharp every man is not just physically but mentally as well and if you a jelly been you will get stepped on with a soft smile that’s why people think the shit is nice when it’s not wow man big respect I loved this video.
This shit is good. I like seeing places where people actually want to hear what the deal is and not be coddled. I needed this shit more when I was younger and going through the ranks in the Marines. 20+ years now and just talking this way to junior Marines, or 90% of civilian society, is like a chasm on how you can even talk to them without feelings happening.
Jake. Thank you for coming straight at these guys. They need to hear this. I do believe there transformation and guys will be one ' that' guy which means that wild man but they don't get what it takes reign that in... and turn that guy loose
Notice when he observed the inconsistent years since the last fist fight at 13:50... he was cool about it, but you could see Mr. Zweig's face twitch a little when he said seven years versus the original two to three years
Most(not all) myself included join for lack of options. I saw a little action. I'm always amazed at these guys who's sole purpose for joining is to go to war. Never put a pair of bdu's or boots on......
This is the part that a lot of dudes don’t get. I grew up around and hung out with operators. If you cannot hang out with a gang or bikers, you ain’t ready. In the words of my green beret pops who answered a question about the type of man who does the job- “what’s it like to be a green beret?” Pops- “drinking, fighting and f….king!” And I was 5 when he said it. Jake- Keep letting people know what it is.
I have an SF buddy I met in Afghanistan. It was like being with a savage ass wild wolf with him. I met SEALS from team 6 and they were super nice and cool but they were killers. If you don’t have the passion for fighting SOCOM isn’t for you. I spent 4.5 years in the Middle East theater as a civilian and I made some SOCOM buddies. I also met some in commercial dive school when I was 18. If you aren’t sure if you want to do SOCOM and have this many questions SPEC OPS isn’t for you.
The camping point is a good one, one guy was in SQT, in alaska and he had no shelter so he had to sleep on the ground by himself in the woods in alaska while it was freezing.
This would've been a great asset for me deciding my military MOS(1997). The perspective this gentleman gives is priceless. I don't think the caller gets it. But I do as an old man. I would've never made the connection of violence and special forces.... Even though that's what the military is. Kill and destroy. As a young man I was thinking w what's cool and shooting guns sounds fun. Not the end result of training. Killing. I hunted and fished and camped. But I didn't have the mettle to do it all the time(as a job).
Hey Jake....so I got to attend a training with a former SF/Unit (GWOT) guy this week and while he was nice, cracked jokes, there was a vibe or a sense of "holy fucking shit" beneath the surface that I cannot explain. It reminded me of this video where you are trying to tell this kid the type of men that thrive in special operations (let alone Tier1 units), I agree most people (myself included) would shit themselves around such men in a team or deployment environment. Hard to explain but there was a level of intensity beneath the surface ready to come out at the flip of a switch.
Yup you had that massive feeling that your body was telling you that you were unsafe, all of your animal sensors were trigging you to run, because the beast can not hide. Now take 200 of them everyday....the only way you last if your one of them
Loved how I came across this video and outstanding! Like the realness of the honesty. Wish this youngster the best, but needs to be real with himself and that goes for anyone wanting to join. When I joined the Marines back in 03',my recruiter knew I was hungry and ready for the challenge...crushed it for 8 yrs later as a grunt. Regardless what branch and path anyone chooses, stick to it and prepare yourself. Nothing comes easy and need to earn it! 🤘
@05:20 I think that is why I think that the WWII-generation (that was born in the decades during or just before both World Wars) is often referred to as the "Greatest Generation" that American probably ever saw. Many of those young men who went off to fight in both WWs (but especially WWII) grew up and were raised on farms and working outside and doing hard heavy work was cetainly nothing new or unknown to them... and also working on a farm would also have the added benefit of eating pretty well (or, at leat I would assume) and / or, if they grew up during the Great Depression... they definitely knew what it was like to really struggle and no doubt produced a very tough & gritty people. So going into the military and spending many hours outside wasnt exactly a drastic transition. Hell, if anything, it might have even been an easier life for them.
I remember being in a SOCOM unit and dealing with the conflicts and environment. I did not realize I was turning into a savage until I left and went to a regular unit. My attitude scared some of the soldiers in the regular unit. My wife told me she was afraid of me as well. I had to somewhat self monitor.
This guy should consider HM/ATF. SOIDC’s can work with units like SEALs/Marine Recon/MARSOC/75th Ranger and they move you around SOCOM since you are INDEPENDENT DUTY
What these young people don't understand about savages is we were raised in hard times and hard times build savages. Not having a lot of resources forces us to critically think about how we are going to have enough to eat or had to take hard labor jobs to help out mom so we can get school clothes or had to hand downs from family. A savage life is not a choice it's just what it is.
This is the best break down of reality On tryna join the sof community I’ve seen just raw straight up telling the truth. I’m from Oklahoma I’m going 11x op40 leaving in March excited is an understatement I’m ready to have some real adventures or die trying either way appreciate you making this raw content I’m always up kinda late watching stuff like this while I back pack around turkey mtn anyways it’s getting late I’m about piss and hop in my hammock definitely got a sub out of me tonight 🫡⚡️💤
@@jakezweig Roger that brother. I sent you an email already about 2 hrs ago. I’m keeping my eye out for a reply. Thanks for getting back to me so soon.
Little does he know… Behind the motivational speeches, motivational IG posts, smiles, and charisma, Jocko was a human killing machine competing for the most kills with other units during the war. 😂
Good one! Retired with less than 21 years. Came from the brown water Navy. Some truth in general here based on what your community and MOS/rate etc. Because, we had some hard core BM's and some hard core engine man which is a hard life especially on a old Amphibious ship- haze gray and underway. No amenities in those days when I came in 92 in that life- brown water Navy. It was hard core life. We had guys come from carriers crying to get back to that world. Guys would literally break limbs and fake sleep walking to get out of 6 month deployments. I remember in 95 we calculated around 82 days in port for the whole year and that counted duty days and all. Yes, I remember guys running to the military to escape and hide out from some serious stuff they did before the military. Just got away with it, but knew they had to hide and flip a coin on their resume of life. Keep it real 👍
Holy Shit, you spit fire in this one..especially at 17:55 speaking of Jocko, Goggins, Luttrell, Stumpf, Shipley (and the list goes on), talk about absolute savage alpha males, Type A personalities...they might come across nice, funny, or whatever now but jump into a workup or deployment with them and people would shit their pants with fear.
@@jakezweig I can only imagine but I am smart enough to know they are savages and that it only takes a flip of a switch and well...*shutters*. I love these didn't make it videos, hard truths right there for everyone to hear. One who scares me the most is Andy Stumpf, super sarcastic ball breaker hehe haha now but I can just tell he was a sick savage fuck during his time down range and as an instructor at BUD/s. He downplays everything (his career, time at DevGru) but you don't just get to Tier1 without being a sick savage fuck (same with DJ Shipley, scary ass motherfucker). Glad they exist but yeah, I shit my pants just trying to imagine dealing with those savages. : )
From the start, he wants to join to kill. He missed the war lol We out of Afghanistan. Still got the rest of the Middle East and Africa. But not the same as when there was actual war. 16:50 In my entire life, ive never actually thought about it that way, it really hit me deep and put a different perspective. No ones ever told me that perspective before.
Love the channel wanted to join up for seals once but I didn't know I needed a HS diploma My pops was a fire spitting bullet sponge Jarhead There was no way I was doing that😂 Even through homelessness functioning autism Been doing an 80s seal training routine video as much as I can with a bad spine Thanks for all the inspiration as soon as I can afford some dumbbells I will be lifting As well as dive bombers push and dip sets
I've slept on a rooftop building on mainstreet during the winter, was 30° cold (I live in the valley of desert) , probably slept 30 mins before the sun came up. And mosquitos are everywhere outside. I'm outside everyday and night though.
Bottom line, if youve been through shit and you like to fight. Like actually fighting involving real physical pain (which most people legitimately dont)…THEN become an operator; otherwise go do something else with your life.
Somehow I stumbled on this channel and watched a couple videos but the one question I have is if everything is so brutal, the pay is mediocre, most people don't seem to do it for that long, you have a high chance of either being physically or mentally damaged for life and maybe Veteran Affairs helps, or maybe they don't. Why do so many people want that job? In a way it tells me outside of patriotism people love the chase of getting the victory and accomplishing something hard or the idea of accomplishing something hard, but they don't want the lifestyle attached to it.
I agree with the logic/smarts sometimes being a negative in other areas too. Seen and been one of those dudes in flight school, who liked to analyze things and look deeper into shit, and most of the cats who excelled were better at pushing the 'I believe' button and getting shit done.
They say that all time that they may never get to go war but they all want that call saying they have to go since they're training non stop and eager. To me I thinking you really want to be able to do anything at least war related, would just be the army because they always send them just to get rid of them first. They're not going to waste the best one's on petty stuff.
He would love First Division. That opportunity is a ticket to an Admiral's chair or to E-6 at twenty years. Depending on your plan. You can tell your CO all about it..for years. Your Plan.
If you like to fix things and help people, do medicine. If you want to destroy things and people be a combatant. I’m a fixer, it matches my energy the best and it shows, it’s natural and I sleep good at night cause of it. Just a greenside doc loving life
Maybe try to become a Swat team paramedic in a big city with violent gangs, probably close as your gonna get to a PJ in combat. I heard people burn out fairly quick.
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This is 100% what this younger generation needs to hear.... the truth. People think that because they see a video, play a game, or watch a movie, they can just show up and do whatever they want. But too many of them aren't willing to put in the work. Loved the frankness of this conversation. Keep up the great work, Jake.
Will do thank you
@@jakezweigThank you Jake for all you do. I was working serving the military & the sergeants told me that this younger generation isn't ready because they are spoiled. You are helping them face hard truths & they need that!!!! You are helping them to not see this as a fairytale Hollywood movies produce about being in the military!!
Oh my god shut up you annoying old geezer not one of us thinks we can just show up and get it handed to us.
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Jake you need to be on some show 4REAL!
Imagine if every high school had a guidance counselor like Jake, forcing every student to face reality.
To include marriage counselors....
Facts I had one , wanted to be sniper buddy broke dat Shyt down for me I changed that Shyt fast😂😂😂
@@Cliford-pn5ux he basically broke down how they had to hold down post for days maybe weeks at a time so they didn’t give away the position, not being able to comfortably use the bathroom 😂, ect. I definitely have a different level of respect for real snipers definitely not easy💯
No fires , lamps out ,
Dig in 3 hour fire watch 3 shifts. Rangers lead the way !!
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The difference between the man going to prison and the man flying home on the C130 is the government sanctioned the ladder. I’ll remember this till the day I die. During my second semester in college, I took a US military history course. One of the first questions the professor asked the class was “What is war?” And after a few minutes of nonanswers and students quoting the definition the professor said “War is nothing more than government-sanctioned murder.”
And no one could argue that because once you get past all the glamor, propaganda, romanticism he was right. Doesn't matter if you're a rifleman in the Army or you're in a tier one unit. You signed a contract and the government spent a lot of money training you to kill.
Latter*
Bullshit*
Wow so much insight for a wannabe who knows nothing but thinks she knows something bc she took a college course. Stay in your safe bubble, girl. The real world isn't for you. Embarrassing.
Nonsense.
Your professor missed A LOT of nuance, lmfao.
Have to hand it to Jake for keeping it real for a lot of these dudes. Combat is not what people think it is. It is a double edged sword. If you train for years and never get to see it, it can feel heart breaking and you can feel an experience of regret. On the other hand, if you do see combat, it will stick with you the rest of your life. I was a Corpsman who saw combat (not spec ops, but with Marine Infantry) which for me mostly consisted of a lot of patrols and taking care of my buddies that got hit.
Not much cool about that except for being able to be there for my bros.
Dude would love to shoot a vid on your experience......these people have no idea
Hit him up! 🗿
That farm work comment was so spot on! Harvest and spring planting is 16 hour days if not more. Those kids are so fkng strong it's shocking. Lifting machinery by themselves, getting kicked by steers. I was just a trucker in those places but i can see how kids who grow up like that have the tenacity and work ethic to succeed at Socom roles.
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@@jakezweig Really enjoy your content Sir! Great advice for people of all ages!
@Chris R
Imo...
I think that is why I think that the WWII-generation
(that was born in the decades during or just before both World Wars)
is often referred to as the "Greatest Generation"
that American probably ever saw.
Many of those young men who went off to fight in both WWs (but especially WWII)
grew up and were raised on farms and working outside and doing hard heavy work
was cetainly nothing new or unknown to them... and also working on a farm
would also have the added benefit of eating pretty well (or, at leat I would assume).
So going into the military and spending
many hours outside wasnt exactly a drastic transition.
Hell, if anything, it might have even been an easier life for them.
made steers my bitch. Been jumped by punks made them my bitch. tryna find a real fight.
Preach on Jake. Farm boy strength is a thing for sure. I did not go SOCOM, but my experiences on the farm growing up certainly provided me with plenty of grit and determination to succeed in the Marine Corps. I was shoveling chit in hot & dusty turkey houses every day after school and during summers. Daily, I had to cull 25 lb turkeys with my bare hands and carry dozens of them at a time for hundreds of yards and bury them in the dead pit. It was savage and the smell of death was all around me. When I got home, I had my regular farm chores to finish including tending cattle and bucking hay bales. When the opportunity came to enlist, I grabbed it, knowing it would be an easier life.
When Jake said you're managing serial killers, it hit me right between the eyes. I've never thought of it that way.
True facts
@paullittle9187
Speaking of "serial killers"....
Jason Moss was an
19yr old college student
who had aspirations
for joining the FBI
or some other
3-letter agency...
and who became a pen-pal
with and eventually got it
in his head that he actually
wanted to meet and
interview serial-killer
and sex offender,
John Wayne Gacy.
Moss would
go on to meet Gacy
while he was in
prison in 1994
less than two months
before Gacy was executed
via lethal injection for
the killing of over thirty
young teenage boys
from 1967 to 1978.
Moss asserted that he became
Gacy's "last victim" during
their face-to-face meeting
and felt overpowered
and manipulated by him
in the same way that Gacy
manipulated his other victims.
Just over a decade later
after his meeting with Gacy,
Jason Moss would
take his own life.
While it is certainly not
this severe in most cases...
this is *exactly* what Jake
is talking about.
The personalities that
you WILL encounter in
the SOCOM community
(and in combat-arms in general)
are downright SAVAGES...
and about the closest
that you may ever come to
meeting personalities that
are even remotely like that
(outside of SOCOM
or Combat Arms)
are in jails & prisons...
and especially the more
hardened & violent inmates.
Showing up to a SEAL Team
or any Team in SOCOM
(or military Combat Arms
in general)...
is just like walking
into a prison cellblock...
where the Big are just
waiting to eat the little.
...Still want that Trident??🔱
@@VredesStall Very True
Jake is describing the actual “job” of SOCOM. He isn’t saying any wrong, let’s put what he is saying in a different perspective. Here’s a question.
Sure there is glamour of being an attorney, but why would you want to be an attorney and you hate to read?
Reading is what an attorney does everyday, the most successful attorneys have a top shelf understanding of law through thousands of hours spent reading and studying.
A SOCOM operator is a gritty, violence liking person. If you don’t like gritty life and violence, why would you be a SOCOM operator? That’s the actual job everyday.
Thank you for explaining my 2nd grade explanation
Thank you for helping explaining my 2nd grade conversation
or hate to debate
People are easily swayed by the pretty uniforms and the title and forget the real job. Watching Saving Private Ryan is good reality check in what to expect.
I was pre med as well, graduated in 99 with BS in Biology. I chose to go in because I felt I needed the discipline. It was peacetime. That was it. War kicked off, and got to do some stuff and loved most of it. Like Jake said there isn’t anything on the horizon. So, you have to find your own reasons for doing it. You have to be 110% committed to those reasons as well, especially if you try to go into any high speed low drag unit. If you don’t have those reasons, and you aren’t committed, you’ll be one of the first drops. Hell, every day for almost 9 years in the Marines was spent either doing land nav, field day, or at the armory cleaning weapons. That’s it, literally. Find your own “because” and be committed to it.
Dunno where the 19 months thing came from. Intended to type 9 years. Oh well.
Jake... you always keep it REAL... they aren't used to hearing this....
Fuck them SEND IT
MUCH Respect Jake!! It’s GREAT to see someone keep it 100% real! I feel like with this generation everyone wants to know EVERYTHING they’re going to do and they want this guide they’ll prepare them and think that’s it. A big part of SF, SEALS, Force Recon, Rangers, PJ’s etc is the “NOT knowing”. It’s all sort of the process. Not knowing what’s coming because in combat you NEVER know wtf is coming. It’s fluid and I’m glad the Military is keeping its standards. Keep up the good work!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Thank you bringing the 🔥
As a parson who worked corrections for a career, you are spot on. There is a major difference between and inmate and a convict. Lots of military dudes in the system who couldn't transition to civilian life and became true convicts after separation from service
Yes sir my cousin is one of them
@@jakezweig Glad you bring up fighting too. First time a young person who has not been in a fight before and gets hit in the nose and become combat ineffective instead of working through it..this stuff matters. Grit matters!
@@metaljustice4518 YES IT DOES BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a former CO during my time I also encountered military guys in the system.
Kayyyyyy
Mmm kayyyy.
Dude hilarious but so right. You can tell his don’t play games and his experience is the TRUTH.
Keep em coming sir. You're a volcano of information.
Fire
Facts. If there’s no war going on he’s just gonna be training, training and training until there is 😂
You just mentioned jiu-jitsu! I’m a smaller 58 year old man but I LOVE these stories of BUDs failures and successes. It inspires me even after 25 years grinding away on the mat and supplemental workouts, to keep embracing that little bit of artificially created, voluntary misery; but it’s all worth it. I just subscribed a few days ago. I really appreciate the content and honest interaction you have with these young prospective or aspiring BUDs candidates.
Thank you man
Me too. I'm 42 and you don't see too many people just telling it as it needs to be.. I'm a straight up fan and love this channel..
Right ? Jake fires up more older guys, many with prior service, than he might know. Tells it like it is.
A GREAT mentor and role model to the young people. Proud of this guy
The absolute GREATEST advice you could give someone thinking about taking the SOCOM path. Wow!!! So great.
People think I'm crazy .....I try to tell them and to a man that is checking in they are like wholly shit you are right
I Love Jakes's honesty.
This is a fire talk brotha. There were a lot of times I was with you on this chat but now ima take that advice going to the woods every weekend. Ima really keep the grit and moving forward. There is pieces of me that wanted to stay with his questions but it’s something about what you give to the community, not the status that comes from it. You solidified what I needed. Thanks for the push. Jake Zweig the legend.
Thank you man !!!! Go get it
Thank you Jake appreciate the real information you bring. Continuing my education to direct commission as a Chaplain and working to be physically ready for Airborne school.
That’s awesome.
Yes sir get it with pray 🙏
Jake the mentorship that you are giving all of these young cats is priceless. You tell it how it is with no shits given. Just from watching this video and listening you can tell that this young man’s soul was broken from your education and harsh reality facts that you just dropped on him. So many young men out there Have been seduced by all of the video games and videos that they play or have seen regarding what you guys do. They don’t realize that the entire point of being a special operations operator and all of the training is to make you the most lethal and efficient killer you can be. That literally is the job description and many, such as this young man cannot grasp that reality. Be well man And keep doing what you were doing.
Thank you and please share it if you can
I can tell you right now as a former medic 4NO in the Air Force……our training was a year. We had guys who washed out of PJ to end up being 4N flunked the medical phase of PJ training in which is well over 6 months at a level one trauma unit . They told us the medical training is insane.
Yes you are a field surgeon
This is my motivation. I've wanted to be in spec ops since I was 14. I've spent 7 years between the work force and college and this shit ain't it B. I can't get those career fields out of my mind. Think of it this way, where else can you get the experience that is being an operator? Where else can you sky dive, scuba dive, shoot guns, and save lives? No where.
You need to spend a bit more time looking into these career fields and choose the one that's right for you. If you're interested in medicine, go Army and get an 18X contract. Their scope of practice is by far more clinical. Pararescue is more emergency medicine.
It's taken me a year to get to the PAST standard. I couldn't get my long distance swim conditioning down. Not only that, your Air Force recruiter will drag their feet with you. They don't need you. It took 3 months just to get in contact with one. And an additional 6 months to get all my paperwork and backgrounds in order. All that before MEPS. AF is commitment B. Get in touch with the dude's from Ones Ready if you're really set on the Air Force.
EDIT: He ain't joking about savages dude. I've heard of dude's fighting just get on an helicopter to go help people. To me, I'd be in that shit too.
FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best video ever. A good example of the savagery of special forces is Tarleton's dragoons at the Battle of Waxhaws. Cold blooded killers all. If you're not a natural born fighter, then join the navy and have fun with all the advanced technologies they have. There, you'll always get warm meals and sleep indoors.
No chance man
@@jakezweig haha :)
For real man, people think it's a joke. I remember the biggest reality check was when my squad leader told me, "Everybody wants to be a grunt until it's time to do grunt shit." And that was just the beginning of the hardest field op we ever did. At the end I saw people I thought were way more savage than me heat case and fall to the ground during our hike back. We had no more water and nobody knew when this shit was going to end. That's what primes your for the reality of the job and you gotta embrace it. Or else you will start to feel real sorry for yourself
Absolutely 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
03 shit
Man if everyone can comprehend this man’s understanding he basically just told this guy that the shit is not something you can wake up and want to be it’s actually part of these motherfuckers journey even explaining the criminal aspect he’s not saying these guys a literal criminals but within polarity who wrong and who’s right within the exchange of life or death that why a lot of criminals and team guys get god like complex we call it which sometimes needs to be balanced out with these hands but wow even understanding the physiological just being around that environment it’s like being around convicts as well because of how sharp every man is not just physically but mentally as well and if you a jelly been you will get stepped on with a soft smile that’s why people think the shit is nice when it’s not wow man big respect I loved this video.
This shit is good. I like seeing places where people actually want to hear what the deal is and not be coddled. I needed this shit more when I was younger and going through the ranks in the Marines. 20+ years now and just talking this way to junior Marines, or 90% of civilian society, is like a chasm on how you can even talk to them without feelings happening.
5:49 is key, "they enjoy the struggle and hardships".
FACTS
Jake. Thank you for coming straight at these guys. They need to hear this. I do believe there transformation and guys will be one ' that' guy which means that wild man but they don't get what it takes reign that in... and turn that guy loose
Its hard for normal people to understand
Grew up camping in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts and reached my Eagle Rank. Took your advice Jake and wrestled for the first time this year and I loved it
Get after it
Wear that Eagle badge with pride. It's like being a frat you can put that on every resume and it will open doors.
Notice when he observed the inconsistent years since the last fist fight at 13:50... he was cool about it, but you could see Mr. Zweig's face twitch a little when he said seven years versus the original two to three years
I hear everything
I caught that too...
Most(not all) myself included join for lack of options. I saw a little action. I'm always amazed at these guys who's sole purpose for joining is to go to war. Never put a pair of bdu's or boots on......
I can tell in his conversation with the guy Jake a real ***** straight up! I like that shirt too .
BOOOOOOM
This is the first video of yours I have commented.. this was an eye-opening interview. Great job! I love how you keep it real.
First of many man!!!
This is the part that a lot of dudes don’t get. I grew up around and hung out with operators. If you cannot hang out with a gang or bikers, you ain’t ready. In the words of my green beret pops who answered a question about the type of man who does the job- “what’s it like to be a green beret?” Pops- “drinking, fighting and f….king!” And I was 5 when he said it.
Jake-
Keep letting people know what it is.
That needs to be on a shirt man!!!! That is 🔥
Drop me an email jake.zweig@gmail.com
Dude is saving lives.
From 13:49 to about 19:20 is hillllarious! That would make a good comedy skit or it is something I would laugh at in a serious movie.
real facts
"Best job in the world - just have a finite lifespan..." - Truer words have not been said. /Thank you!
I have an SF buddy I met in Afghanistan. It was like being with a savage ass wild wolf with him. I met SEALS from team 6 and they were super nice and cool but they were killers. If you don’t have the passion for fighting SOCOM isn’t for you. I spent 4.5 years in the Middle East theater as a civilian and I made some SOCOM buddies. I also met some in commercial dive school when I was 18. If you aren’t sure if you want to do SOCOM and have this many questions SPEC OPS isn’t for you.
Yes you have seen behind the curtain
Jake I love your raw content and not sugar coating nothing to these guys. It’s a big kick in the nuts.
Real life
The camping point is a good one, one guy was in SQT, in alaska and he had no shelter so he had to sleep on the ground by himself in the woods in alaska while it was freezing.
30 min vid from Zweig, time to eat!!
I Think Everyone Entering the Teams or Any Military Branch Should Hear This Man Speak
This would've been a great asset for me deciding my military MOS(1997). The perspective this gentleman gives is priceless. I don't think the caller gets it. But I do as an old man.
I would've never made the connection of violence and special forces.... Even though that's what the military is. Kill and destroy. As a young man I was thinking w what's cool and shooting guns sounds fun. Not the end result of training. Killing.
I hunted and fished and camped. But I didn't have the mettle to do it all the time(as a job).
IT TAKES A DIFFERENT DUDE
You right about these guys not being comfortable in the woods !!!
I wish I had someone like jake around to keep it real with me when I was choosing my path in the army.
I wish I had me man
Hey Jake....so I got to attend a training with a former SF/Unit (GWOT) guy this week and while he was nice, cracked jokes, there was a vibe or a sense of "holy fucking shit" beneath the surface that I cannot explain. It reminded me of this video where you are trying to tell this kid the type of men that thrive in special operations (let alone Tier1 units), I agree most people (myself included) would shit themselves around such men in a team or deployment environment. Hard to explain but there was a level of intensity beneath the surface ready to come out at the flip of a switch.
Yup you had that massive feeling that your body was telling you that you were unsafe, all of your animal sensors were trigging you to run, because the beast can not hide. Now take 200 of them everyday....the only way you last if your one of them
@@jakezweig 100%!
“Were you being literal when you said ‘convicts’?” Dude scared shitless shaking in his boots. 😂😂😂
Yes government convicts
@@jakezweig I love the brutality in your content… Keep it up big dawg. I just subscribed.
5th and 3rd group SF have been getting after it in Africa and Syria the last couple a years. And the 18D sf medics are the best is the military!
God Damn! Realest guidance I have heard thus far Jake! Definitely need more of this articulated to the younger generation.
Loved how I came across this video and outstanding! Like the realness of the honesty. Wish this youngster the best, but needs to be real with himself and that goes for anyone wanting to join. When I joined the Marines back in 03',my recruiter knew I was hungry and ready for the challenge...crushed it for 8 yrs later as a grunt. Regardless what branch and path anyone chooses, stick to it and prepare yourself. Nothing comes easy and need to earn it! 🤘
Thank you for your service
@05:20
I think that is why I think that the WWII-generation
(that was born in the decades during or just before both World Wars)
is often referred to as the "Greatest Generation"
that American probably ever saw.
Many of those young men who went off
to fight in both WWs (but especially WWII)
grew up and were raised on farms and
working outside and doing hard heavy work
was cetainly nothing new or unknown to them...
and also working on a farm would also have
the added benefit of eating pretty well (or, at leat I would assume)
and / or, if they grew up during the Great Depression...
they definitely knew what it was like to really struggle
and no doubt produced a very tough & gritty people.
So going into the military and spending
many hours outside wasnt exactly a drastic transition.
Hell, if anything, it might have even been an easier life for them.
Growing up 80s-90s I was in the woods everyday. Not like that anymore!
Needs to be
Man so refreshing to hear you keeping things so real for this young man. Hats off mr Z.. -dr ryan
They just don't understand what it really is
EXCELLENT MESSAGE TO THE YOUNG!!! KEEP MOTIVATING THE NEXT GENERATION!!!
David Goggins specifically said in Can’t Hurt Me that he did not care who he had to shoot at when he was deployed.
Always keeping it real. I love it
1000000%
I remember being in a SOCOM unit and dealing with the conflicts and environment.
I did not realize I was turning into a savage until I left and went to a regular unit.
My attitude scared some of the soldiers in the regular unit. My wife told me she was afraid of me as well. I had to somewhat self monitor.
He was so fixated on the convicts comment “do you mean literal convicts” like yes dude a killer is a killer…
16:40 this part had me crying 😂 buddy real asked that question
These folks owe you a lotta thanks by God's grace. Literally saving lives out here man. And they don't even know.
Everyday !@
This guy should consider HM/ATF. SOIDC’s can work with units like SEALs/Marine Recon/MARSOC/75th Ranger and they move you around SOCOM since you are INDEPENDENT DUTY
Absolutely
lol I love his prison/prisoner analogy lol. If you’re intimidated by prison but want to be America’s elite special forces are you really tough lol
What these young people don't understand about savages is we were raised in hard times and hard times build savages. Not having a lot of resources forces us to critically think about how we are going to have enough to eat or had to take hard labor jobs to help out mom so we can get school clothes or had to hand downs from family. A savage life is not a choice it's just what it is.
Yes sir sir
This is the best break down of reality On tryna join the sof community I’ve seen just raw straight up telling the truth.
I’m from Oklahoma I’m going 11x op40 leaving in March excited is an understatement I’m ready to have some real adventures or die trying either way appreciate you making this raw content I’m always up kinda late watching stuff like this while I back pack around turkey mtn anyways it’s getting late I’m about piss and hop in my hammock definitely got a sub out of me tonight 🫡⚡️💤
Thank you how many miles a week you running
@@jakezweig 18-25 according to my records should I be running more I got plenty more in the tank to give
@@Alanthe918mobilemechanic hell yes 40 is the minimum jake.zweig@gmail.com
@@jakezweig Roger that brother. I sent you an email already about 2 hrs ago. I’m keeping my eye out for a reply. Thanks for getting back to me so soon.
Little does he know… Behind the motivational speeches, motivational IG posts, smiles, and charisma, Jocko was a human killing machine competing for the most kills with other units during the war. 😂
We all competed for kills 😅
Good one! Retired with less than 21 years. Came from the brown water Navy. Some truth in general here based on what your community and MOS/rate etc. Because, we had some hard core BM's and some hard core engine man which is a hard life especially on a old Amphibious ship- haze gray and underway. No amenities in those days when I came in 92 in that life- brown water Navy. It was hard core life. We had guys come from carriers crying to get back to that world. Guys would literally break limbs and fake sleep walking to get out of 6 month deployments. I remember in 95 we calculated around 82 days in port for the whole year and that counted duty days and all. Yes, I remember guys running to the military to escape and hide out from some serious stuff they did before the military. Just got away with it, but knew they had to hide and flip a coin on their resume of life. Keep it real 👍
Facts
This is the realest shit I’ve ever heard about special operations
Holy Shit, you spit fire in this one..especially at 17:55 speaking of Jocko, Goggins, Luttrell, Stumpf, Shipley (and the list goes on), talk about absolute savage alpha males, Type A personalities...they might come across nice, funny, or whatever now but jump into a workup or deployment with them and people would shit their pants with fear.
Absolutely 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 hot fear....I have watched normal people fall apart when put into that environment
@@jakezweig I can only imagine but I am smart enough to know they are savages and that it only takes a flip of a switch and well...*shutters*. I love these didn't make it videos, hard truths right there for everyone to hear. One who scares me the most is Andy Stumpf, super sarcastic ball breaker hehe haha now but I can just tell he was a sick savage fuck during his time down range and as an instructor at BUD/s. He downplays everything (his career, time at DevGru) but you don't just get to Tier1 without being a sick savage fuck (same with DJ Shipley, scary ass motherfucker). Glad they exist but yeah, I shit my pants just trying to imagine dealing with those savages. : )
@@muriloninja dealing with them LOL
You keep it Real. Straight Savage
From the start, he wants to join to kill. He missed the war lol We out of Afghanistan. Still got the rest of the Middle East and Africa. But not the same as when there was actual war. 16:50 In my entire life, ive never actually thought about it that way, it really hit me deep and put a different perspective. No ones ever told me that perspective before.
FACTS KILLING IS KILLING
I've enjoyed this video very much! Thanks Jake!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I agree. Love the Rangers. Like the SEALS. Thanks, Jake! REAL TALK!!!!!
Yes, brother been watching your videos. Awesome!! As a use of Force Instructor, I completely agree. Very well said.
Wow. This is some of the best advice I've ever heard.
Thank you
Love the channel
wanted to join up for seals
once but I didn't know I needed a HS diploma
My pops was a fire spitting bullet sponge Jarhead
There was no way I was doing that😂
Even through homelessness functioning autism
Been doing an 80s seal training routine video as much as I can with a bad spine
Thanks for all the inspiration as soon as I can afford some dumbbells I will be lifting
As well as dive bombers push and dip sets
I've slept on a rooftop building on mainstreet during the winter, was 30° cold (I live in the valley of desert) , probably slept 30 mins before the sun came up. And mosquitos are everywhere outside. I'm outside everyday and night though.
GET IT
100 per cent correct must live in the outdoors army anything but air force army we were field artillery in the field all the time great video jake
My man fire 🔥 thanks
Bottom line, if youve been through shit and you like to fight. Like actually fighting involving real physical pain (which most people legitimately dont)…THEN become an operator; otherwise go do something else with your life.
yes sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The dude he's talking to has definitely played too much Call of Duty
Love the 👕
Jake Zweig and Don Shipley (Senior Chief)/DJ Shipley are awesome Navy Seal Vets.
Not sure how I made it in the same sentence with those guys but thank you
Somehow I stumbled on this channel and watched a couple videos but the one question I have is if everything is so brutal, the pay is mediocre, most people don't seem to do it for that long, you have a high chance of either being physically or mentally damaged for life and maybe Veteran Affairs helps, or maybe they don't. Why do so many people want that job?
In a way it tells me outside of patriotism people love the chase of getting the victory and accomplishing something hard or the idea of accomplishing something hard, but they don't want the lifestyle attached to it.
It is the path of the Warrior. Across history same motivation
I agree with the logic/smarts sometimes being a negative in other areas too. Seen and been one of those dudes in flight school, who liked to analyze things and look deeper into shit, and most of the cats who excelled were better at pushing the 'I believe' button and getting shit done.
I wanna go get trained and be trained by the best. Have those abilities, and to be paid to acquire those skills.
Just found your channel Bro your a beast I saw you on that show when you walked threw the desert 👍🏽
BOOOOOOOM
They say that all time that they may never get to go war but they all want that call saying they have to go since they're training non stop and eager. To me I thinking you really want to be able to do anything at least war related, would just be the army because they always send them just to get rid of them first. They're not going to waste the best one's on petty stuff.
This episode sounds like the Scared Straight Special Forces Edition.
The caller needs to stop playing COD lol 😂
Jocko and goggins having everyone believe they can be a seal. Ha!
Not over here
13:49 funniest part of the video. Love the content.
Thank you
He would love First Division. That opportunity is a ticket to an Admiral's chair or to E-6 at twenty years. Depending on your plan. You can tell your CO all about it..for years. Your Plan.
I enjoyed this and I’m not this crowd at all but him say kayyyyy was hilarious
If you like to fix things and help people, do medicine. If you want to destroy things and people be a combatant. I’m a fixer, it matches my energy the best and it shows, it’s natural and I sleep good at night cause of it. Just a greenside doc loving life
I’d even take it a step further on the camping and tell this dude to throw on a ruck and carry that around.
just being in the woods is going to go get him
@@jakezweig agreed
03:15 wow, major props for keeping it REAL!!
Big bro with the Kaayyyyy! Is the illest!! One Luv big bro!
I wouldn’t say ‘mentally unstable’ - I would say ‘savages’…
😆
1000]00%
Maybe try to become a Swat team paramedic in a big city with violent gangs, probably close as your gonna get to a PJ in combat. I heard people burn out fairly quick.
“I wanna see combat” ain’t no way that’s his only reason
That's a gamer statement