@steveb3924 These black drummers like me come from Christian churches like me? We are all talented... and yes African in blood... and yet when opportunity presents itself we make a pact with the devil for a music industry which is mainly satanic (Zionists, Rosicrucians, Freemasons, Scientology, Hasidim, Lubavitcher...)... in this case..., it is no longer a question of talent or musicality, But of polarization... of Western propaganda messages (woke, feminists, satanist) in clear leading people astray goods of the right path. This has worked since the dawn of time... wow god protect us .
This happens when you move away from Jesus Christ. And worst and worst... this happens when you make a pact with the devil, when you fall into terrible addiction drugs tobacco alcohol or gambling or all in one... but Jesus is the same yesterday today and tomorrow.
This is why some drummers need to stop taking themselves too seriously it’s drums it’s supposed to be fun focus on bettering your own playing and stop focusing too much on how others perceive your playing, setup, brands find your sound, play what you like and use what you like it’s drums it’s not that serious stay humble stay focused and show everyone respect but I wasn’t surprised because a few musicians told me Ronald acts like that before the video came out
That's a fact. Frankly drummers should take ourselves the LEAST seriously and our timing the most seriously. No excuse for a drummer to be a diva. That's the singers job
It's tough to get much perspective from ten minutes of video. I've seen musicians have their horns break on stage, break instruments, play with a totally out-there rhythm section member... weird stuff can happen. Usually it doesn't make its way onto RUclips. Kenny's close to both musicians here; hopefully everyone got straightened out after the gig.
@@jorymilyou a lie, we got all the perspective we need!!!!! If you a drummer on any circuit, you’ve heard how much of a d-bag Ronald really is!!! Ron is a great drummer fasho… top 10 free Jazz drummer in my opinion
Ronald needs to come back to Jesus Christ. I can name a lot of those drummer who came from baptism churches, orthodox churches, Luther churches, and evangelical churches. They needs to come back to Jesus. Because the music industry is satanist And there are very few that doesn't give their souls to Satan in the business.
I hope Ronald gets some help. That's all I gotta say. I wish him well. I hope he continues to succeed. But I also hope he talks to someone about what's going on inside. When it starts showing on the outside and ruining gigs, it's already past the time to talk to a professional. Sending many blessings. 🙏🏾❤️
Ronald needs to come back to Jesus Christ. I can name a lot of those drummer who came from baptism churches, orthodox churches, Luther churches, and evangelical churches. They needs to come back to Jesus. Because the music industry is satanist And there are very few that doesn't give their souls to Satan in the business.
I cant believe that Kenny would put with that kind of attitude - Kenny is one of the best of our time and he could get any drummer he wants - one that actually plays for the music versus what I just watched, which was 100% arrogant playing!!!! He not only disrespected the person who tried to help him, he disrespected the band, the audience and most important, the music!!!!!
@@filipkasprzyk9564 so if he was playing drums for you on a major platform and he has one of his fits and starts pushing the drums to the ground and screaming at a band member, you would be ok with that? If so, you just as Looney as he is. Talent doesn't trump character.
@@dray4393 i was hanging with him once after his show with Kenny and of course he was acting like a big star but still wanted to talk and came hang with us 18yo kids after we invited him to a jam. Also At the end of his show with kenny he threw sticks in the air and was giving that look like „whatever man” I think its the part of the show. Also if u check out mike Mitchells shows he always stops in the middle of the song and tells the sound engineer to fix whatever. He always does this. U know what I mean this guys just do it and I dont think thats that bad its almost like staged to me
The behavior that Ronald exhibits in the video is nothing new. He's been acting like that for years ; it's on the grapevine that he has a drinking problem. Real talk , he's been very lucky so far , pull that with cats who are more on a street level , and his ass would be handed to him after the gig. He knows who to pull those antics with.
Kenny is the professional's professional. Having sat around between sets and watched him teach piano lessons, he's just so chill. And it's not like Ronald is new to playing with Kenny: I first saw them play together in 2005. So... Kenny cares about Ronald, wants him to do well, but.... Also for those who don't know, Ronald is Thundercat's (Stephen Bruner) brother.
The guy lost so many gigs (Stanley Clark, Marcus Miller, George Duke, Prince), and he is one of the best drummers I have ever seen... but one needs to be a good human being also. The answer caught on camera.
Rudy Bird is a veteran percussionist who's been playing and touring with Kenny for 40 years. I first heard him play on Mulgrew Miller's album _Wingspan_ , which is a great introduction to Kenny and Rudy. I've seen both Ronald and Rudy live with Kenny, so something was up--hopefully just for this one show. For those who don't know, Ronald is Stephen Bruner's (Thundercat's) brother; maybe family can help out here. I'm sitting 5000 miles away, so I sure can't be one to judge. ❤ to the whole band.
Ronald comes back to Jesus brother, your soul is thirsty and tired... Jesus does not forget you and he loves you again and again today tomorrow and forever. Don't let the weight of burdens, corruption, addiction take over your life. Comes back to Jesus.
It's probably because the percussionist stole the margarine and RGB had to settle for dry pancakes. It was then when the little pats of butter fell out of Rudy Birds' pocket and RGB saw it
@@TEastB Ronald Bruner Jr is an amazing player, but the playing in this video was bad. Dynamics were poor. I’ve seen him build up solos with proper dynamics in mind. Here, his playing matched his attitude.
@@TEastB But crazy enough, this “bad” playing by a possibly intoxicated Ronald Bruner Jr. was still incredibly tight. Shows you the level these guys are at.
Na , Ronald is one of the best drummers I've ever seen. Don't let his playing in this video fool you into what he's capable when he isn't intoxicated or on substances .
Unfortunately this is regular behavior for Bruner. He really has a piss poor reputation in MANY other cities for similar and/or worse behavior. It's astounding that a legendary musical force like Kenny Garrett puts up with such an emotional infant in his band. How absolutely disrespectful to Kenny, the rest of the band and everyone else in attendance to act this way during a live performance. Bruner's baggage is not worth the chops. Bruner obviously has "shock and awe" chops but he's about the least musical drummer I've ever heard. There's no subtlety in his playing, even when he's not cussing out Rudy the percussionist and "having a bad night". That's my opinion, I'm sure some will disagree, l'd simply challenge those that do disagree to seek out the following. Contemporarily I've seen Kenny's band doing basically this same material with a great drummer named McClenty Hunter and bassist Corcoran Holt who bring equal chops, but blow Bruner away with musicality, conversation, subtleties, and RESPECT. The energy those guys bring is it! And that's because it's all laid down on a foundation of respect where the music comes first. For fuck sake, go back and watch the Kenny Garrett Quartet live at Umbria with Kenny Kirkland, Jeff "Tain" Watts and Nat Reeves, a performance that literally gives me goosebumps and then fast forward to this crap. The idea that this behavior would just be excused because this guy has chops is laughable! Especially after watching the aforementioned Umbria concert for contrast. What a disgrace. Imagine how much ego it takes to completely ruin a Kenny Garrett performance. Amazing! Again, shocking that Kenny puts up with all the baggage Bruner brings to the stage and band. Watching Kenny Garrett playing keys in the background trying to ignore Bruner while he screams fuck and then throws a tantrum knocking over drums just hurts my soul to watch.. I also feel bad for everyone else in that band. Imagine traveling overseas and having to get in a bus or a plane or train with this special guy, no thanks!!! WOOF!!!!!!!!! Your character is your character regardless of where you come from. Would Art Blakey have ever done this when he was Bruner's age playing as a side man with Dizzy Gillespie or Horace Silver? The way he treats Rudy Bird, the percussionist initially helping him fix the cymbal stand, in this clip is wild. The display Bruner puts on in the video is just how he acts on stage. Believe me, I have personal experience dealing with this idiot at a club when he was in my hometown for a festival a few years ago. He's a complete loose cannon and a total asshole for no reason upon meeting him for the first time. He managed to offend just about every artist in my hometown, including me. Stories still circulate to this day from just about everyone I know. Again, imagine being on the road with this energy having to be around this 24/7. This isn't an isolated incident. I won't be surprised when we come to the day that someone puts him in his place and either beats his ass or worse. I don't hope for that but he's begging for it. Dude needs serious help and I hope he gets it the civilized way. He’s literally so corny
I saw Kenny Garrett at the Blue Note in New York in 2019, and Ronald Bruner Jr. got insanely mad at the pianist Vernell Brown Jr. (RIP) during the gig. He ended up throwing his sticks at the wall and storming off the stage yelling while heading upstairs to the green room. We talked to Vernell for a bit after the gig and he said something along the lines of “I’ve been a professional pianist for 30+ years, I don’t need this shit!” but then was very pleasant and gracious to us. Clearly Ronald Bruner Jr. has some issues. Hope he gets the help he needs because he’s obviously very talented.
@@Jazzbass92 Didn't know that genius brotha passed a way. Rip and will gig in heaven with Sylvain Luc (the boss of modern guitare) and chick Korea, Duke and so on.
I remember living in San Antonio 2012 watching your drum videos.. the future and Rihanna , love song u covered with that guy singing, I still listen to that to this day !! It’s great to see how far u have came!! I’m a true fan
Assuming we have all the information needed to judge someone’s actions is both arrogant and pretentious. It’s important to remember that without full context, we risk making unfair and potentially harmful conclusions about a person.
MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the new drum cultural landscape of "look at me, how many 32nd note combinations/chops & machine gun single strokes & who I play for" mentality is starting to catch up with many young brothers who drum strictly for ego. Also, I have had the misfortune of losing two master drum kits to pawn shops & I currently struggle just to get quality practice time on my new kit inside of a storage unit where a few individuals are trying to snitch me out just for me practicing at a low volume; therefore, the fact that this young man can't even recognize his opportunities as a musician & then basically destroys half of his kit in some tantrum is offensive! Just an observation from a struggling veteran musician/drummer.
@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 I encounter the arrogance & dismissive attitudes whenever I go out to view these "chop circles"/drum-offs & jam sessions...This generation of drummers treat me like I'm yesterday's trash & the bands/artists who hire this generation of drummers expect for me the veteran to do.EVERYTHING you all do! FACTS.
@@jahleeleli3280let me ask you a question….. are you a good musician?!? Cause a lot of you old school cats get stuck playing like yall did in the 90’s…. Meaning your style is expired compared to the new standard of play today… which makes a lot of new musicians mad… we work hard on our craft to get to rehearsal and find out the older keyboardist done made his own rendition of a song that’s already out!!! In some cases some of these songs going around in the black community have been around for decades! Especially in church…
@@samstars9999 ANSWER: my daily drum play-along list for drums: Hip-hop (old & new breaks), New R&B/Urban, Neo-Soul, Classic Soul/R&B, Ol' Skool Funk/Jamz, Classic Rock, Progressive Rock, Heavy Metal, Alternative Rock, New Contemporary Pop, New Millenial Hits, Jazz Standards/Bebop-Swing, Reggae (One Drop & Dance Hall), Blues, Southern Soul, Latin/Afro-Cuban, Jazz Fusion, Jazz Contemporary, Country (old & new), Pop Classic Hits, Gospel (old & new). Don't even ask me to name the artists/bands on my playlist because you would lose it trying to comprehend the musicianship of it all. I AM a musician FIRST, drummer SECOND. I listen to musical arrangements of ALL genres & then I play. The drummer is supposed to speak to the phrasing & style of the musical arrangements & be a consumate musician young man. Jahleel Eli 49-year veteran Composer of "X-Factor" Drumline Movie Cadence As performed by The Morris Brown College Drumline in the 20th Century Fox Film. Sample playlist: J. Cole, Van Halen, Earth Wind & Fire, Prince, Usher, Led Zeppelin, Megadeth, Ohio Players, Brecker Brothers, The Yellowjackets, Journey, Tito Puente, John Coltrane, Iron Maiden, Snarky Puppy, The Gap Band, Phil Collins/Genesis, Kendrick Lamar, Talib Kweli YOU understand???
Someone will bring him down to earth one day and remind him he still just a drummer and being good and praised dont mean you can't catch hands for being disrespectful, especially to older folks.
Most of yall missing the bigger picture. Forget the drums bro need’s help for real. We gotta pray for him man let’s not be negative we’ve lost too many musicians already 💯💯
Rudy Bird is a well known, percussionist. He has been with Kenny Garrett for many years. I first met Kenny when he was playing with Miles. This young man can play but what every is going on he is being very aggressive. He is over playing a lot of unnessary anger, because he lost control . I know Kenny was pretty upset. The youngman has mental problems. Very unprofessional.
High or drunk or just can’t handle his anger too well. Who knows. I would be thankful for someone trying to help. Maybe he got mad that they took too long to fix the stand. Lol!
All the craftsmanship that goes in to drums and cymbals. Especially the made to order ones, it has love energy from the man and woman that made them. What a shame.
Ultimately Ronald is disrespecting himself here; it's a little sad to watch more than anything. Sure, you never like to see equipment abused out of frustration, and it's not acceptable behavior, but it's more important that Ronald be okay.
Ron is wild man he came to my hometown for a gig and when it was over he wanted to go to a strip club in the hood and we took him there and we partied until 7am.
Mr. Brunner is a remarkable musician. Very often musicians have issues that can make them incredible players but also challenging to live and work with (Buddy Rich?). Some bandleaders put up with it and let them be themselves as long as they don't do too much damage. I suspect that Kenny Garrett does just that... profiting, at his own risk, of course. As someone said, this way of being will undoubtedly catch up with Ronald if he doesn't get a handle on it. It's a level of volatile immaturity. I'm inclined to believe there's some level of childhood trauma involved... as with most of us. Generally, I don't enjoy listening to him because, even though he's a phenomenal technician, I can always tell that he's not sensitively connected to the music. I wish him the best.
This is the perfect Ronald Bruner , rude and disrespectful , He got rude several times with his fans , with other artists . An artist must be a good human being in the first place , not a childish irresponsible man . After this gig ended , in Blue note , he broke other club stuff, and the director , or artistic director of Blue note , informed him that he would never put his feet again in the club , so he started begging for pardon on his knees . His a very talented musician ,but it's not enough to be artist , just look of how many gigs with amazing artists he lost because of those behaviors
This kid should be fired ASAP...I have followed Kenny since his days with Miles Davis and just caught him at the Blue Note in NYC a few yrs. back and the energy was on another level. Kid got to go !!!
I've been playing for 30-plus years. Ronald bruner has always been one of my favorite drummers, obviously because of how fast he is! It's crazy to actually see him act like this in a live setting.. Never would I have even expected anything like that from this guy...Hes to good!?
As a working bass player it has been my observation that true pro musicians are some of the nicest people I have ever met... now understand...there are good musicians and those that think they are good...attitude over abilities any day of the week...we're all gonna have off days..just recognize it for what it is... put your head down..do your job...be happy you have a job...be nice...we are all idiots in our own peculiar way..😅
Dude stopped playing percussion in the middle of his solo to help him put the cymbal back on. Seems like Ron was mad he stopped playing he was trying to improvise on the broken cymbal. Definitely not the correct response !!! But that seems like what it is lol
This video doesn’t provide enough context to understand why Ronald Bruner Jr. acted the way he did. It’s not fair to make assumptions about his character, potential issues with drinking, or whether he has strayed from his faith without having all the facts.
My theory is that there is a lot of undiagnosed ADHD in the drumming community. ADHD is known for Emotional Dysregulation and RSD. If it’s true that Ron has substance abuse issues too, this is also explained by ADHD because people with ADHD are more predisposed to developing substance abuse. The intense hyperfocus that is needed to reach his level on the drums is also explained by ADHD. There is also a massive drive for people with ADHD to overachieve, which is why they often excel in certain areas, because they are trying to prove their worth. The more I understand ADHD the more compassion I have for stuff like this because he simply may not be able to help it. Ron possibly needs help, not criticism.
As someone with ADHD a lot of what you said is true but not the disrespectful behavior thats not excusable it's just him being a dick and letting ego take control.
@@devinbrewer8956 I disagree (I have ADHD as well) It’s true that it’s disrespectful, but doesn’t mean that it doesn’t come from the emotional dysregulation. I know this from experience too.
I have ADHD, and I've never acted like that on a gig, ever. That's something else going there. I've had moments where I'd get pissed or something, absolutely, but you have to keep it professional.
@@rubievale yeah, but it’s well documented that people with ADHD are known to lose jobs and destroy relationships because of their inability to regulate their emotions. The notion that people with ADHD can simply “remain professional” would contradict the massive amount of data that people with ADHD often are unable to “remain professional”. And the reason it looks “dickish” is because of how unreasonable he is, which actually confirms that it’s probably ADHD, because it’s so out of the ordinary.
I drum teched a Jazz Festival and worked w Ronald setting his kit up. He def seemed to have the "Rock God" syndrome. The shit he's doing here is like punk rock behavior, and he's an asshole for trashing backline gear. He won't keep working if he keeps it up, there are WAY too many guys that shred.
That’s at The blue Note in Milano. I remember the carpet and curtain color and the Yamaha hybrid Absolute Maple house drumkit that he’s playing. I played on it as well.
I been playing drums since I was a child . Started out with card board boxes , pots and pans. Got my first kit when I was 15 . I'm 54 now and been jamming all my life . My opinion dude is totally unprofessional and his talent and skill level are not that great . To be blunt he sux ! And his attitude stinks!
And I started playing on shoe boxes and hangers when I was 3 and in church at 9. Now play lead guitar, bass and drums, produce, rap and engineer. I’m 36 in November. Salute.
@@troubletroyhitdontgethitbo3600and the percussion guy told him to “ fuck you nigga” !!! Ronald is one of the best drummers in the world and he’s having alcohol issues … but people like to spit on other’s wounds
So this is what the world is come to. We are now reacting and diagnosing musicians on random gigs. Lol. We don’t know nothing about what’s going on in the background. What may have happened before the show. Let’s knock it off. Yes, if he has any issues with the guy that came on his stage to help there were more professional ways to handle this but y’all talking about him needing prayer and being emotionally unstable. And once one person says something, everyone just hops on the bandwagon. This is one of the greatest black drummers of our generation! He’s one of them. Many of the people that you hold to be the greatest in their field or one of the greatest in their field have had temper tantrums… the differences we haven’t been able to record it as much. Prince, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Aretha Franklin, so so for all have stories of them not being the nicest people from time to time. The difference is it wasn’t documented as easily. No means putting him on their level, just using them as an example to make a point. Knock it off. If he never plays another gig with another band because he threw a temper tantrum, I will gladly play to see him and his brother Thundercat whenever they get together. This guy is a musical child prodigy. And I don’t have to like his attitude to close my eyes and listen to him play. Most of us will be blessed just to try out for some of the gigs he’s lost…. I’ll take it one step further. Most of us wouldn’t even be confident enough in our gifts to try out for the gigs that he’s lost. I’ll take it further, most of us would freeze up on the same stage that he’s on in this video. Iol! Also, the guy commenting on his video telling a story about Ronald Bruner having a Hollywood mentality and coming into a jam session and leaving after he played is so silly…. Maybe he has a Hollywood mentality because he’s from California! lol. A person coming to a jam session and leaving means nothing. He might’ve had something to do afterwards. It’s a jam session. But to say this video is giving you flashbacks like he was traumatized by Ronald Bruner showing up to a jam session, playing and leaving is crazy!!!!!!! we got to do better people
Well I'm going to say this Mr Brunner has my vote of being one of the most geniuses on drums in this decade. And whatever maybe going on with him that's between him and God now we can't sit here and judge talking about what's wrong with Ronald Brunner because he may be going through something something may be happening personal in his life and it's just you never know and it's kind of ironic that somebody mentioned Prince and all the rest of these guys cuz they had attitudes too especially Prince so why don't we just lay off of Ronald and pray for him and not judge him because you don't know what's going on with him you would never know unless you sitting there walking them out in his shoes you don't know what's happening with him so let's not judge him people let's pray for him!!!
As a drummer, giving a lot on stage and then having the bandleader play too long to where I'm mentally drained can make the rage bubble up. Yes, Ronald can be "interesting" personally, but he gives 110%, and when it's a long ass set, we all could get mad
It's a wonder KG didn't immediately turn around, catch his eye, and tell him to get TF off the stage. That should've been his plane ticket right back to the states. This is just a reminder that despite how badass one may be on his axe, you are not entitled to disrespect your fellow stagemates and band leader by being a self-inflated egotistical jackass. As a musician myself, I've seen firsthand how bad this can get from others, even to the point of having near-onstage blowouts with them. Totally - TOTALLY - unacceptable, Ronald!!!! And as much as I enjoy listening to this kat, just another reminder to (how do they say it?) - love the art, but not always the artist.
The time I saw him on a vid at a clinic and a question came from someone with a clear disability and Ron laughed like a hyena. It killed my soul. He said he was laughing at his voice as if that helped. Eventually he was on tour with Chaka in Trinidad. My parents welcomed them they stayed at the hotel my dad worked at. She said Ron Jr. was a whole ass. And a band full of dope positive dudes. I even message online with his dad from time to time cuz that family has talent coming out their ears, and I’m always saddened at the way his kid is acts and is described by nearly everyone.
I love seeing Ron play but there are some guys in Nashville who know Ron and have said that he's been drinking a lot and that's caused his current issues. Not sure if that's it or not but substance abuse is common in jazz.
TBH, some of your favorite legendary musicians have done worse than this on stage. Not to excuse what's happening in this video, but I guess there's definitely a cause for this effect. 😅
Okay.....musician here.......If you recall it took him a while to actually feel the music. Once he got into his groove he adjusted when the cymbal moved. He did not want him around.....at all. It interrupted his flow just a bit. Musicians can be temperamental.
It seems like Ronald's behavior stems from personal issues!! I would be surprised if he didn't get fired from the gig!! The paying audience didn't deserve that either!
No disrespect, but Does he actually play better than this? The skill level that’s being displayed in this video does NOT warrant that kind of attitude 🤷🏾♂️
@gm692000us Yes. He’s an amazing player. His technical ability is world-class… probably top 30 easy… but he has a tendency to get chop-happy. Let me be clear, he knows how to groove and play with musicians. However, he definitely gets too chop-happy for my taste. I think Avante-Garde Jazz would be his calling. Regardless, no amount of skill justifies crashing out like that during a high-profile artist’s gig in front of the audience. I can’t imagine how uncomfortable the audience was when they saw that.
@@DevenKhanna-sm5mq yeah I noticed the chops, it was all over the place. I thought the opposite IMO he’s horrible jazz player but the groove was nice. It was almost the tempo changing kept throwing him off 🤷🏾♂️
@@gm692000us I think his solos/fills would be much more tasteful if he stopped doing that same super fast shredder’s roll around toms every solo. Every time he throws that, it sounds like he’s intentionally trying to ruin whatever gig he’s playing.
Yeah he can play, IMO He is probably top 10 greatest drummers alive , seen him play a few times , met him once and he was cool with me. However , shame about this incident and these stories I'm hearing .
Reminds me of Mike Portnoy's famous outburst. Something went wrong, so he walked up to the mic and made up a song about the techs, cursing them out in front of the audience. Klassy.
Ahh, "the camel" documented in the past to be spitting all over the stage or something during performances 😑 I hope he behaves differently the second time around.
Are you kidding me?!! That dude has Chambers level chops!!!!! It's just tragic to see a Musical Genius as Bruner Jr. is go through this kind of Drama. the thing is, when you're playing with people, on the road, you not only have to be a great Player, but you've got to be a great Hang. You're with these cats on the road for anywhere from 3 months to 8 months, so everyone needs to get along. And rule NUMBER ONE, you don't air your personal Drama onstage, in the middle of a gig.
@@markevans2814 perhaps you’re right about his playing, but his attitude SUCKS and that is what counts in different spaces where people decide if you’re worth it or not.
With the disclaimer of not knowing the song, the structure or the gig, it seemed like to me when he was doing that big snare fill and then stopping on the one, he was trying to signal something to the band... like, stop here, break here, next part here, something like that and nobody else was doing the change. Maybe he messed it up, maybe they messed it up, maybe both? But it sure seemed like he was done with those two chords and that groove and was like, come on already. Then the ride falls over and just added insult to injury. From there he was obviously all "fuck this". He started subdividing the beat, purposely throwing in different things that had nothing to do with what anyone else was playing. Trying anything to fuck with it. That's the vibe I felt from it anyway. Like the soloist was being too greedy and full of himself by being like "naw, 64 bars ain't enough, I'ma keep goin until -I'm- done." And shit like that always has some precedent to it with some arguments along the way. "Why you always play so long? You get a solo in every song, nobody needs 15 minutes of your shit over the same two fuckin chords. Get over yourself." Followed by, "Fuck you, I'll do what I want." "Fuck me? Naw bro, fuck you and your bullshit." Been there. But I'm a bass player, so I'll just play my two fuckin notes and keep my mouth shut.
Dude looking like he about to join a karate tournament with the karate kid, got mad at the tech because the boom stand slipped. It’s probably starting to strip. LOLOL! 😂😂😂 He’s a dang good drummer! He playing those drums for real!
With this age of social media and the way word gets around these days Ronald Bruner Jr. just sabotaged his career. He may have great technical skills but his attitude will make him unhirable.
I have pushed my drums off the stage after a frustrating night of personality conflicts. It feels so great to kick the drums to the dance floor ,then head over to the bar.
Man this is Kenny Garrett you playing behind. You don’t disrespect legends on the stage or anywhere else. Should be fired immediately.
Yess agree, but most importantly he needs Jesus Christ.
@@metothemoon1227 lol
me to the moon is speaking the truth...
@steveb3924
These black drummers like me come from Christian churches like me? We are all talented... and yes African in blood... and yet when opportunity presents itself we make a pact with the devil for a music industry which is mainly satanic (Zionists, Rosicrucians, Freemasons, Scientology, Hasidim, Lubavitcher...)... in this case..., it is no longer a question of talent or musicality, But of polarization... of Western propaganda messages (woke, feminists, satanist) in clear leading people astray goods of the right path. This has worked since the dawn of time... wow god protect us .
Kenny plays long as hell. Try giving everything on drums for 90 minutes, just for him to keep going for another 30-40
Can you imagine the tension being stuck on a bus with this guy's energy for a month or more at a time? I cannot.
I did a 2 month tour back in nov/ dec with someone just like this. yes, it was hell.
Victor wooten talks about this all the time
This happens when you move away from Jesus Christ. And worst and worst... this happens when you make a pact with the devil, when you fall into terrible addiction drugs tobacco alcohol or gambling or all in one... but Jesus is the same yesterday today and tomorrow.
Terrible situation 😟
This is why some drummers need to stop taking themselves too seriously it’s drums it’s supposed to be fun focus on bettering your own playing and stop focusing too much on how others perceive your playing, setup, brands find your sound, play what you like and use what you like it’s drums it’s not that serious stay humble stay focused and show everyone respect but I wasn’t surprised because a few musicians told me Ronald acts like that before the video came out
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That's a fact. Frankly drummers should take ourselves the LEAST seriously and our timing the most seriously.
No excuse for a drummer to be a diva. That's the singers job
Totally unnecessary and immature behavior. It will catch up with him. That should NOT happen on anyone’s gig. Kenny doesn’t deserve that.
It's tough to get much perspective from ten minutes of video. I've seen musicians have their horns break on stage, break instruments, play with a totally out-there rhythm section member... weird stuff can happen. Usually it doesn't make its way onto RUclips. Kenny's close to both musicians here; hopefully everyone got straightened out after the gig.
@@jorymil how many fights broke out?
@@jorymilyou a lie, we got all the perspective we need!!!!! If you a drummer on any circuit, you’ve heard how much of a d-bag Ronald really is!!! Ron is a great drummer fasho… top 10 free Jazz drummer in my opinion
Ronald needs to come back to Jesus Christ. I can name a lot of those drummer who came from baptism churches, orthodox churches, Luther churches, and evangelical churches. They needs to come back to Jesus. Because the music industry is satanist And there are very few that doesn't give their souls to Satan in the business.
I hope Ronald gets some help. That's all I gotta say. I wish him well. I hope he continues to succeed. But I also hope he talks to someone about what's going on inside. When it starts showing on the outside and ruining gigs, it's already past the time to talk to a professional. Sending many blessings. 🙏🏾❤️
Ronald needs to come back to Jesus Christ. I can name a lot of those drummer who came from baptism churches, orthodox churches, Luther churches, and evangelical churches. They needs to come back to Jesus. Because the music industry is satanist And there are very few that doesn't give their souls to Satan in the business.
Word.
I cant believe that Kenny would put with that kind of attitude - Kenny is one of the best of our time and he could get any drummer he wants - one that actually plays for the music versus what I just watched, which was 100% arrogant playing!!!! He not only disrespected the person who tried to help him, he disrespected the band, the audience and most important, the music!!!!!
Exactly!!! He was literally “on his own sheet of music” the entire time. It was like watching dental surgery
Those crazy smiles after crashing out is a clear sign.
A sign of what?
@@michaelm.6040 drug abuse, mental health issues or a combination of both. I’ve been a fan for years and he’s getting worse as time passes.
@@broderickadams7763 Oh, Ok
I know y’all saw when he crashed out with Thomas pridgen during the lockdowns. It’s on RUclips
@@whykatera81 link?
I never like Ronald's attitude. He can play but he got issues.
I think he has undiagnosed ADHD which would explain him excelling at the drums, but also his emotional dysregulation and substance abuse.
Yeah same. Ronald is one of the best ever but is not that great of a person
Ahh hes a showman i got No problem with that
@@filipkasprzyk9564 so if he was playing drums for you on a major platform and he has one of his fits and starts pushing the drums to the ground and screaming at a band member, you would be ok with that? If so, you just as Looney as he is. Talent doesn't trump character.
@@dray4393 i was hanging with him once after his show with Kenny and of course he was acting like a big star but still wanted to talk and came hang with us 18yo kids after we invited him to a jam. Also At the end of his show with kenny he threw sticks in the air and was giving that look like „whatever man” I think its the part of the show. Also if u check out mike Mitchells shows he always stops in the middle of the song and tells the sound engineer to fix whatever. He always does this. U know what I mean this guys just do it and I dont think thats that bad its almost like staged to me
This wasn't even his gig!!! If I was Kenny, I would've fired him!!!!
and that is the problem. ......
Notice how everyone else came dressed…then notice his childlike attitude smh more reason than one to let him go
@@thetwenty5thHe wants to be Billy Cobham so bad.
@@hermanmelville3871 he can be whatever, he is just in his bad moments, people have this, no one can say have been away from these moments.
@@JuanMayor-TorresWhat talk about you regarding situation this is?
The behavior that Ronald exhibits in the video is nothing new.
He's been acting like that for years ; it's on the grapevine that he has a drinking problem.
Real talk , he's been very lucky so far , pull that with cats who are more on a street level , and his ass would be handed to him after the gig.
He knows who to pull those antics with.
Needs ta get off that CRACK
Kenny is the professional's professional. Having sat around between sets and watched him teach piano lessons, he's just so chill. And it's not like Ronald is new to playing with Kenny: I first saw them play together in 2005. So... Kenny cares about Ronald, wants him to do well, but.... Also for those who don't know, Ronald is Thundercat's (Stephen Bruner) brother.
Yup!
I heard about his drinking 🍻 problem in Vegas 5 years ago 🎉
Too bad, because this young man has great chops.
There's no way he can play like this while drunk 😂😂 but alcoholism affects you all the time.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
I'm Rick James bitch!!
💯
especially withdrawing from it
The guy lost so many gigs (Stanley Clark, Marcus Miller, George Duke, Prince), and he is one of the best drummers I have ever seen... but one needs to be a good human being also. The answer caught on camera.
Unfortunately true.
He need Jesus Christ
Rudy Bird is a veteran percussionist who's been playing and touring with Kenny for 40 years. I first heard him play on Mulgrew Miller's album _Wingspan_ , which is a great introduction to Kenny and Rudy. I've seen both Ronald and Rudy live with Kenny, so something was up--hopefully just for this one show. For those who don't know, Ronald is Stephen Bruner's (Thundercat's) brother; maybe family can help out here. I'm sitting 5000 miles away, so I sure can't be one to judge. ❤ to the whole band.
In the words of Judge Mathis: "that look like a crackhead move to me!" 😂😂😂😂
Ronald comes back to Jesus brother, your soul is thirsty and tired... Jesus does not forget you and he loves you again and again today tomorrow and forever. Don't let the weight of burdens, corruption, addiction take over your life. Comes back to Jesus.
Your FIRED
You’re
Some musicians act like "Divas" thats wild .
@@TheBeatqualizer need Jésus Christ.
@@TheBeatqualizer need to Come back to the source as they Say.
Petulant frenzy. This is a petulant frenzy.
He’s petulant, and he’s having a frenzy!!
Spoken like a true Zappa fan 😂😂
@@joeydavisdrumz2013😊😊😊
@@christopherclark279 just like a penguin in Bondage Booing!!!
It's probably because the percussionist stole the margarine and RGB had to settle for dry pancakes. It was then when the little pats of butter fell out of Rudy Birds' pocket and RGB saw it
😂😂😂
Terrible attitude and really terrible playing. All the technical ability but such awful musicianship.
That makes zero sense whatsoever 😂😂😂
hes not terrible at playing
@@TEastB Ronald Bruner Jr is an amazing player, but the playing in this video was bad.
Dynamics were poor.
I’ve seen him build up solos with proper dynamics in mind. Here, his playing matched his attitude.
@@TEastB But crazy enough, this “bad” playing by a possibly intoxicated Ronald Bruner Jr. was still incredibly tight. Shows you the level these guys are at.
Na , Ronald is one of the best drummers I've ever seen. Don't let his playing in this video fool you into what he's capable when he isn't intoxicated or on substances .
that dude should be fined (James brown style). Send him an invoice instead of paycheck 😂.
Unfortunately this is regular behavior for Bruner. He really has a piss poor reputation in MANY other cities for similar and/or worse behavior. It's astounding that a legendary musical force like Kenny Garrett puts up with such an emotional infant in his band. How absolutely disrespectful to Kenny, the rest of the band and everyone else in attendance to act this way during a live performance. Bruner's baggage is not worth the chops. Bruner obviously has "shock and awe" chops but he's about the least musical drummer I've ever heard. There's no subtlety in his playing, even when he's not cussing out Rudy the percussionist and "having a bad night".
That's my opinion, I'm sure some will disagree, l'd simply challenge those that do disagree to seek out the following. Contemporarily I've seen Kenny's band doing basically this same material with a great drummer named McClenty Hunter and bassist Corcoran Holt who bring equal chops, but blow Bruner away with musicality, conversation, subtleties, and RESPECT. The energy those guys bring is it! And that's because it's all laid down on a foundation of respect where the music comes first. For fuck sake, go back and watch the Kenny Garrett Quartet live at Umbria with Kenny Kirkland, Jeff "Tain" Watts and Nat Reeves, a performance that literally gives me goosebumps and then fast forward to this crap. The idea that this behavior would just be excused because this guy has chops is laughable! Especially after watching the aforementioned Umbria concert for contrast. What a disgrace. Imagine how much ego it takes to completely ruin a Kenny Garrett performance. Amazing! Again, shocking that Kenny puts up with all the baggage Bruner brings to the stage and band. Watching Kenny Garrett playing keys in the background trying to ignore Bruner while he screams fuck and then throws a tantrum knocking over drums just hurts my soul to watch.. I also feel bad for everyone else in that band. Imagine traveling overseas and having to get in a bus or a plane or train with this special guy, no thanks!!! WOOF!!!!!!!!!
Your character is your character regardless of where you come from. Would Art Blakey have ever done this when he was Bruner's age playing as a side man with Dizzy Gillespie or Horace Silver? The way he treats Rudy Bird, the percussionist initially helping him fix the cymbal stand, in this clip is wild. The display Bruner puts on in the video is just how he acts on stage. Believe me, I have personal experience dealing with this idiot at a club when he was in my hometown for a festival a few years ago. He's a complete loose cannon and a total asshole for no reason upon meeting him for the first time. He managed to offend just about every artist in my hometown, including me. Stories still circulate to this day from just about everyone I know. Again, imagine being on the road with this energy having to be around this 24/7. This isn't an isolated incident. I won't be surprised when we come to the day that someone puts him in his place and either beats his ass or worse. I don't hope for that but he's begging for it. Dude needs serious help and I hope he gets it the civilized way. He’s literally so corny
I saw Kenny Garrett at the Blue Note in New York in 2019, and Ronald Bruner Jr. got insanely mad at the pianist Vernell Brown Jr. (RIP) during the gig. He ended up throwing his sticks at the wall and storming off the stage yelling while heading upstairs to the green room. We talked to Vernell for a bit after the gig and he said something along the lines of “I’ve been a professional pianist for 30+ years, I don’t need this shit!” but then was very pleasant and gracious to us.
Clearly Ronald Bruner Jr. has some issues. Hope he gets the help he needs because he’s obviously very talented.
@@Jazzbass92 Didn't know that genius brotha passed a way. Rip and will gig in heaven with Sylvain Luc (the boss of modern guitare) and chick Korea, Duke and so on.
I remember living in San Antonio 2012 watching your drum videos.. the future and Rihanna , love song u covered with that guy singing, I still listen to that to this day !! It’s great to see how far u have came!! I’m a true fan
Assuming we have all the information needed to judge someone’s actions is both arrogant and pretentious. It’s important to remember that without full context, we risk making unfair and potentially harmful conclusions about a person.
Don't need context to see unprofessional behavior DURING a performance!
If there was a disagreement it should have been settled backstage!
MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the new drum cultural landscape of "look at me, how many 32nd note combinations/chops & machine gun single strokes & who I play for" mentality is starting to catch up with many young brothers who drum strictly for ego. Also, I have had the misfortune of losing two master drum kits to pawn shops & I currently struggle just to get quality practice time on my new kit inside of a storage unit where a few individuals are trying to snitch me out just for me practicing at a low volume; therefore, the fact that this young man can't even recognize his opportunities as a musician & then basically destroys half of his kit in some tantrum is offensive! Just an observation from a struggling veteran musician/drummer.
Or maybe he’s just a hot head. Can’t put one man’s behavior on the whole drumming community.
@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 I encounter the arrogance & dismissive attitudes whenever I go out to view these "chop circles"/drum-offs & jam sessions...This generation of drummers treat me like I'm yesterday's trash & the bands/artists who hire this generation of drummers expect for me the veteran to do.EVERYTHING you all do! FACTS.
I'll take a good groove dog pocket drummer over a tech geek ANYDAY!
@@jahleeleli3280let me ask you a question….. are you a good musician?!? Cause a lot of you old school cats get stuck playing like yall did in the 90’s…. Meaning your style is expired compared to the new standard of play today… which makes a lot of new musicians mad… we work hard on our craft to get to rehearsal and find out the older keyboardist done made his own rendition of a song that’s already out!!! In some cases some of these songs going around in the black community have been around for decades! Especially in church…
@@samstars9999 ANSWER: my daily drum play-along list for drums: Hip-hop (old & new breaks), New R&B/Urban, Neo-Soul, Classic Soul/R&B, Ol' Skool Funk/Jamz, Classic Rock, Progressive Rock, Heavy Metal, Alternative Rock, New Contemporary Pop, New Millenial Hits, Jazz Standards/Bebop-Swing, Reggae (One Drop & Dance Hall), Blues, Southern Soul, Latin/Afro-Cuban, Jazz Fusion, Jazz Contemporary, Country (old & new), Pop Classic Hits, Gospel (old & new). Don't even ask me to name the artists/bands on my playlist because you would lose it trying to comprehend the musicianship of it all. I AM a musician FIRST, drummer SECOND. I listen to musical arrangements of ALL genres & then I play. The drummer is supposed to speak to the phrasing & style of the musical arrangements & be a consumate musician young man.
Jahleel Eli
49-year veteran
Composer of "X-Factor" Drumline Movie Cadence
As performed by The Morris Brown College Drumline in the 20th Century Fox Film.
Sample playlist: J. Cole, Van Halen, Earth Wind & Fire, Prince, Usher, Led Zeppelin, Megadeth, Ohio Players, Brecker Brothers, The Yellowjackets, Journey, Tito Puente, John Coltrane, Iron Maiden, Snarky Puppy, The Gap Band, Phil Collins/Genesis, Kendrick Lamar, Talib Kweli
YOU understand???
Someone will bring him down to earth one day and remind him he still just a drummer and being good and praised dont mean you can't catch hands for being disrespectful, especially to older folks.
Most of yall missing the bigger picture. Forget the drums bro need’s help for real. We gotta pray for him man let’s not be negative we’ve lost too many musicians already 💯💯
What ? Fuck that. There people on here that dream to play that kind of gig. Fuck this guy
Rudy Bird is a well known, percussionist. He has been with Kenny Garrett for many years. I first met Kenny when he was playing with Miles. This young man can play but what every is going on he is being very aggressive. He is over playing a lot of unnessary anger, because he lost control . I know Kenny was pretty upset. The youngman has mental problems. Very unprofessional.
Who's Ronald Bruner, Jr.?
Dude is HIGH
Nope
High or drunk or just can’t handle his anger too well. Who knows. I would be thankful for someone trying to help. Maybe he got mad that they took too long to fix the stand. Lol!
He need to be high of Jesus Christ.
@@LilianaGarcia-ve7ob Amen 🙏🏾
Teddy Campbell, Will Kennedy, Vinnie Colaiuta, Chester Thompson are rare drummers these days which gave their souls to the Christ.
Lotta egos in jazz. I'm from New Orleans and have studied jazz drumming in high school.
And they're all shit compared to Andrew Neiman
I'm from Jamaica, Queens, NY. Lots of jazz ego there too. lol
Lots of ego everywhere In all types of music
8:30 allegedly , Mr. Bruner be drinking
Met Ronald in NYC on the street. Was cool to me...🥁🗽
Is the full video of this gone? Can’t seem to find it the videos anymore, I remember there were many different clips of RBJ on this gig
All the craftsmanship that goes in to drums and cymbals. Especially the made to order ones, it has love energy from the man and woman that made them. What a shame.
Ultimately Ronald is disrespecting himself here; it's a little sad to watch more than anything. Sure, you never like to see equipment abused out of frustration, and it's not acceptable behavior, but it's more important that Ronald be okay.
You’re sorry for the manufacturer? Reeeeally? 😆
Ron is wild man he came to my hometown for a gig and when it was over he wanted to go to a strip club in the hood and we took him there and we partied until 7am.
Mr. Brunner is a remarkable musician. Very often musicians have issues that can make them incredible players but also challenging to live and work with (Buddy Rich?). Some bandleaders put up with it and let them be themselves as long as they don't do too much damage. I suspect that Kenny Garrett does just that... profiting, at his own risk, of course.
As someone said, this way of being will undoubtedly catch up with Ronald if he doesn't get a handle on it. It's a level of volatile immaturity. I'm inclined to believe there's some level of childhood trauma involved... as with most of us.
Generally, I don't enjoy listening to him because, even though he's a phenomenal technician, I can always tell that he's not sensitively connected to the music. I wish him the best.
This is the perfect Ronald Bruner , rude and disrespectful , He got rude several times with his fans , with other artists . An artist must be a good human being in the first place , not a childish irresponsible man . After this gig ended , in Blue note , he broke other club stuff, and the director , or artistic director of Blue note , informed him that he would never put his feet again in the club , so he started begging for pardon on his knees . His a very talented musician ,but it's not enough to be artist , just look of how many gigs with amazing artists he lost because of those behaviors
This kid should be fired ASAP...I have followed Kenny since his days with Miles Davis and just caught him at the Blue Note in NYC a few yrs. back and the energy was on another level. Kid got to go !!!
I've been playing for 30-plus years. Ronald bruner has always been one of my favorite drummers, obviously because of how fast he is! It's crazy to actually see him act like this in a live setting.. Never would I have even expected anything like that from this guy...Hes to good!?
He does miss a cymbal @ 6:46 just before he stops and gets angry. That might have added to it.
Would’ve told him, gone clock out for me big dawg 😂
" I'm going to give you my opinion after the video," then proceeds to talk all through the video?
As a working bass player it has been my observation that true pro musicians are some of the nicest people I have ever met... now understand...there are good musicians and those that think they are good...attitude over abilities any day of the week...we're all gonna have off days..just recognize it for what it is... put your head down..do your job...be happy you have a job...be nice...we are all idiots in our own peculiar way..😅
Dude stopped playing percussion in the middle of his solo to help him put the cymbal back on. Seems like Ron was mad he stopped playing he was trying to improvise on the broken cymbal. Definitely not the correct response !!! But that seems like what it is lol
This video doesn’t provide enough context to understand why Ronald Bruner Jr. acted the way he did. It’s not fair to make assumptions about his character, potential issues with drinking, or whether he has strayed from his faith without having all the facts.
We can see enough to know that he should have been fired and unemployable after this unprofessional display.
The only thing not fair is the performance he gave to a paying audience. In what workplace is this behavior allowed?
My theory is that there is a lot of undiagnosed ADHD in the drumming community. ADHD is known for Emotional Dysregulation and RSD. If it’s true that Ron has substance abuse issues too, this is also explained by ADHD because people with ADHD are more predisposed to developing substance abuse. The intense hyperfocus that is needed to reach his level on the drums is also explained by ADHD. There is also a massive drive for people with ADHD to overachieve, which is why they often excel in certain areas, because they are trying to prove their worth.
The more I understand ADHD the more compassion I have for stuff like this because he simply may not be able to help it. Ron possibly needs help, not criticism.
As someone with ADHD a lot of what you said is true but not the disrespectful behavior thats not excusable it's just him being a dick and letting ego take control.
@@devinbrewer8956 I disagree (I have ADHD as well) It’s true that it’s disrespectful, but doesn’t mean that it doesn’t come from the emotional dysregulation. I know this from experience too.
I have ADHD, and I've never acted like that on a gig, ever. That's something else going there. I've had moments where I'd get pissed or something, absolutely, but you have to keep it professional.
@@rubievale yeah, but it’s well documented that people with ADHD are known to lose jobs and destroy relationships because of their inability to regulate their emotions. The notion that people with ADHD can simply “remain professional” would contradict the massive amount of data that people with ADHD often are unable to “remain professional”.
And the reason it looks “dickish” is because of how unreasonable he is, which actually confirms that it’s probably ADHD, because it’s so out of the ordinary.
I drum teched a Jazz Festival and worked w Ronald setting his kit up. He def seemed to have the "Rock God" syndrome. The shit he's doing here is like punk rock behavior, and he's an asshole for trashing backline gear. He won't keep working if he keeps it up, there are WAY too many guys that shred.
drugs!!!!
Say that again!!!!
Actually no
@@corcoranholt651 No better person to try explain us Rons behavior than the man himself Corcoran!! Pls say something
that's disrespectful
That’s at The blue Note in Milano. I remember the carpet and curtain color and the Yamaha hybrid Absolute Maple house drumkit that he’s playing. I played on it as well.
He's playing tama here
@@5hekwoaga nope
its a yam
Did you replace RBJ permanently?@@5hekwoaga
I've played here many times. This is a rented tama kit. Not the clubs Yamaha. @funkyfillbeats
@@scoopgh4572 YES
I been playing drums since I was a child . Started out with card board boxes , pots and pans. Got my first kit when I was 15 . I'm 54 now and been jamming all my life . My opinion dude is totally unprofessional and his talent and skill level are not that great . To be blunt he sux ! And his attitude stinks!
He doesn’t suck. He’s drunk. He’s a much better player than that. He just has a messed up attitude and ego
And I started playing on shoe boxes and hangers when I was 3 and in church at 9. Now play lead guitar, bass and drums, produce, rap and engineer. I’m 36 in November. Salute.
@@troubletroyhitdontgethitbo3600and the percussion guy told him to “ fuck you nigga” !!! Ronald is one of the best drummers in the world and he’s having alcohol issues … but people like to spit on other’s wounds
So this is what the world is come to. We are now reacting and diagnosing musicians on random gigs. Lol. We don’t know nothing about what’s going on in the background. What may have happened before the show. Let’s knock it off. Yes, if he has any issues with the guy that came on his stage to help there were more professional ways to handle this but y’all talking about him needing prayer and being emotionally unstable. And once one person says something, everyone just hops on the bandwagon. This is one of the greatest black drummers of our generation! He’s one of them. Many of the people that you hold to be the greatest in their field or one of the greatest in their field have had temper tantrums… the differences we haven’t been able to record it as much. Prince, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Aretha Franklin, so so for all have stories of them not being the nicest people from time to time. The difference is it wasn’t documented as easily. No means putting him on their level, just using them as an example to make a point. Knock it off. If he never plays another gig with another band because he threw a temper tantrum, I will gladly play to see him and his brother Thundercat whenever they get together. This guy is a musical child prodigy. And I don’t have to like his attitude to close my eyes and listen to him play. Most of us will be blessed just to try out for some of the gigs he’s lost…. I’ll take it one step further. Most of us wouldn’t even be confident enough in our gifts to try out for the gigs that he’s lost. I’ll take it further, most of us would freeze up on the same stage that he’s on in this video. Iol! Also, the guy commenting on his video telling a story about Ronald Bruner having a Hollywood mentality and coming into a jam session and leaving after he played is so silly…. Maybe he has a Hollywood mentality because he’s from California! lol. A person coming to a jam session and leaving means nothing. He might’ve had something to do afterwards. It’s a jam session. But to say this video is giving you flashbacks like he was traumatized by Ronald Bruner showing up to a jam session, playing and leaving is crazy!!!!!!! we got to do better people
Well I'm going to say this Mr Brunner has my vote of being one of the most geniuses on drums in this decade. And whatever maybe going on with him that's between him and God now we can't sit here and judge talking about what's wrong with Ronald Brunner because he may be going through something something may be happening personal in his life and it's just you never know and it's kind of ironic that somebody mentioned Prince and all the rest of these guys cuz they had attitudes too especially Prince so why don't we just lay off of Ronald and pray for him and not judge him because you don't know what's going on with him you would never know unless you sitting there walking them out in his shoes you don't know what's happening with him so let's not judge him people let's pray for him!!!
As a drummer, giving a lot on stage and then having the bandleader play too long to where I'm mentally drained can make the rage bubble up. Yes, Ronald can be "interesting" personally, but he gives 110%, and when it's a long ass set, we all could get mad
The only thing he is giving 110% to is vibing the entire room. And it isn’t a good vibe.
Rudy played with Miles anf Kenny bac in the 80s-90s. You youngsters should know.
It’s just unprofessional at every level
It's a wonder KG didn't immediately turn around, catch his eye, and tell him to get TF off the stage. That should've been his plane ticket right back to the states.
This is just a reminder that despite how badass one may be on his axe, you are not entitled to disrespect your fellow stagemates and band leader by being a self-inflated egotistical jackass. As a musician myself, I've seen firsthand how bad this can get from others, even to the point of having near-onstage blowouts with them. Totally - TOTALLY - unacceptable, Ronald!!!! And as much as I enjoy listening to this kat, just another reminder to (how do they say it?) - love the art, but not always the artist.
I pray for him something clearly going on in his life
The time I saw him on a vid at a clinic and a question came from someone with a clear disability and Ron laughed like a hyena. It killed my soul. He said he was laughing at his voice as if that helped. Eventually he was on tour with Chaka in Trinidad. My parents welcomed them they stayed at the hotel my dad worked at. She said Ron Jr. was a whole ass. And a band full of dope positive dudes. I even message online with his dad from time to time cuz that family has talent coming out their ears, and I’m always saddened at the way his kid is acts and is described by nearly everyone.
What is the time signature??
This is not sobriety. That’s all I gotta say
What's the name of the tune?
That's what Rock Stars use to do back in the day and it was part of the show...
They should call that tune “Petulant Overplaying Whiney Baby.”
What's the song name they are playing?
Man you repeating stuff over and over, just let it play out, a lot of unnecessary commenting. I know it’s to late for that but dang it was to much.
the freak out is just artistic innovation people aren't ready for. ronald is 100% in the right here NO QUESTIONS ASKED
I love seeing Ron play but there are some guys in Nashville who know Ron and have said that he's been drinking a lot and that's caused his current issues. Not sure if that's it or not but substance abuse is common in jazz.
Most likely his career ended after this tour, Ron is no longer working with Kenny Garrett since this tour.
How unprofessional! This guy has some problems! I wouldn’t care how good the kid is he’d be gone in seconds if he was in my band
TBH, some of your favorite legendary musicians have done worse than this on stage. Not to excuse what's happening in this video, but I guess there's definitely a cause for this effect. 😅
Okay.....musician here.......If you recall it took him a while to actually feel the music. Once he got into his groove he adjusted when the cymbal moved. He did not want him around.....at all. It interrupted his flow just a bit. Musicians can be temperamental.
Bandanna + Glasses= high as hell
😂😂 yup
Nah that’s alcohol more than anything more than likely
@kbthedrummmer. Hey Bro what did you see him do in Texas?
Dude needs to relax, sincerely Keith Moon
Is the first time that I see this kind of behavior on a gig
@@osvaldoluna8863 I’ve experienced worst. Keep living and gigin
Kenny Garrett was very humble, smiling. Very solid man and pretty sure Kenny forgot Ronald for his error.
It seems like Ronald's behavior stems from personal issues!! I would be surprised if he didn't get fired from the gig!! The paying audience didn't deserve that either!
I had an odd encounter with him in Hollywood, Ca. a few years back. It didn't lead to too much, but he did flip me off...
No disrespect, but Does he actually play better than this? The skill level that’s being displayed in this video does NOT warrant that kind of attitude 🤷🏾♂️
@gm692000us Yes. He’s an amazing player. His technical ability is world-class… probably top 30 easy… but he has a tendency to get chop-happy.
Let me be clear, he knows how to groove and play with musicians. However, he definitely gets too chop-happy for my taste.
I think Avante-Garde Jazz would be his calling.
Regardless, no amount of skill justifies crashing out like that during a high-profile artist’s gig in front of the audience. I can’t imagine how uncomfortable the audience was when they saw that.
@@DevenKhanna-sm5mq yeah I noticed the chops, it was all over the place. I thought the opposite IMO he’s horrible jazz player but the groove was nice. It was almost the tempo changing kept throwing him off 🤷🏾♂️
@@gm692000us I think his solos/fills would be much more tasteful if he stopped doing that same super fast shredder’s roll around toms every solo. Every time he throws that, it sounds like he’s intentionally trying to ruin whatever gig he’s playing.
Yeah he can play, IMO He is probably top 10 greatest drummers alive , seen him play a few times , met him once and he was cool with me. However , shame about this incident and these stories I'm hearing .
Man, rock bands and drummers have pushed over drums and broke guitars on stage.
Rudy Bird used to play drums/percussion behind some old school greats back in the day.
On the road in a foreign country, couldn't get his blow or whatever he's into. Withdrawing, and frustrated. Ronald is in the throes of addiction.
Makes me think he got the drummer in a contract that is baddddd
He doesn’t just stop playing 😂 listen to the album bro
Reminds me of Mike Portnoy's famous outburst. Something went wrong, so he walked up to the mic and made up a song about the techs, cursing them out in front of the audience. Klassy.
That was in Manila I think.
Ahh, "the camel" documented in the past to be spitting all over the stage or something during performances 😑 I hope he behaves differently the second time around.
@@johnmarkbaugbog6296 Manila, exactly.
Funny, I just read this video was at the blue note in Manila…
He is playing Chris Daddy style right now. Not like him.
This man just crashed out so bad tho.
That's the most annoying groove ever, wtf?
he probably was upset with the drum tech because he took too long to come and fix the ride cymbal. But still that's no excuse to act like that
Plot twist: part of the show.
He’s not even that good! He has no reason to act that way!
its false, he is that good, but its not the point.
He’s def that good
Are you kidding me?!! That dude has Chambers level chops!!!!! It's just tragic to see a Musical Genius as Bruner Jr. is go through this kind of Drama. the thing is, when you're playing with people, on the road, you not only have to be a great Player, but you've got to be a great Hang. You're with these cats on the road for anywhere from 3 months to 8 months, so everyone needs to get along. And rule NUMBER ONE, you don't air your personal Drama onstage, in the middle of a gig.
@@markevans2814 perhaps you’re right about his playing, but his attitude SUCKS and that is what counts in different spaces where people decide if you’re worth it or not.
🧢 His talent and attitude aren't mutually exclusive. Ronald is a monster on the drums, but his character is also complete trash.
This may be reason Michael Ode is touring with Kenny Garrett now instead of RBJ
With the disclaimer of not knowing the song, the structure or the gig, it seemed like to me when he was doing that big snare fill and then stopping on the one, he was trying to signal something to the band... like, stop here, break here, next part here, something like that and nobody else was doing the change. Maybe he messed it up, maybe they messed it up, maybe both? But it sure seemed like he was done with those two chords and that groove and was like, come on already. Then the ride falls over and just added insult to injury. From there he was obviously all "fuck this". He started subdividing the beat, purposely throwing in different things that had nothing to do with what anyone else was playing. Trying anything to fuck with it.
That's the vibe I felt from it anyway. Like the soloist was being too greedy and full of himself by being like "naw, 64 bars ain't enough, I'ma keep goin until -I'm- done." And shit like that always has some precedent to it with some arguments along the way. "Why you always play so long? You get a solo in every song, nobody needs 15 minutes of your shit over the same two fuckin chords. Get over yourself." Followed by, "Fuck you, I'll do what I want."
"Fuck me? Naw bro, fuck you and your bullshit."
Been there. But I'm a bass player, so I'll just play my two fuckin notes and keep my mouth shut.
…so what happened then?
@@brunette3224 Right? He knows everything, so let's hear it!
Ronald and his brother were once in the punk band Suicidal Tendancys, so they might be about that life lol.
Dude looking like he about to join a karate tournament with the karate kid, got mad at the tech because the boom stand slipped. It’s probably starting to strip. LOLOL! 😂😂😂 He’s a dang good drummer! He playing those drums for real!
With this age of social media and the way word gets around these days Ronald Bruner Jr. just sabotaged his career. He may have great technical skills but his attitude will make him unhirable.
I have pushed my drums off the stage after a frustrating night of personality conflicts. It feels so great to kick the drums to the dance floor ,then head over to the bar.
He won't get many more gigs of that caliber,that's for sure.
Nobody hired him anymore after he finished this tour with Kenny Garrett (the one in this video),