I settled in to 20” rows planted green with mechanical termination, then following the combine with the drill I also pulled back to short season corn, 84-90 day, giving me time to establish more covers and get some beef gain before the 1st freeze. 18 years of research brother. I do also air seed with the combine headers, but I go from corn to wheat, so no rye goes on after corn. Everybody is going to find what works for them if they want to, but I think a lot of guys try to fail subconsciously because they don’t want to change. We do very well without using anything synthetic for 21 years. It’s different though. I’ve noticed that in areas where the yields are lower than the corn belt, they can achieve equal yields to the usual conventional farms, and even beat them. Honestly, you can’t grow corn like a corn belt I state farmer anywhere else without frying your land. You don’t get to do it wrong. I get yield drags between 10-40%. It depends on the ground and how long it’s been in the rebuilding program. I don’t think my kids will, because we should hit 8-9% soil organic matter by then. We’re making an investment in something that won’t really hit its full potential until after we’re gone. It’s a good legacy though.
If considering planting the interseeded cover crop at same time as planting the corn, choose species that are a little slower out of the ground than the corn. Faba beans, yellow blossom sweet clover, common or hairy vetch, or even alfalfa. Once the corn is harvested, cereal rye can be drilled into the green stand of legumes.
"Chasing more nutrient dense corn crop for consumers" are you testing and specifically selecting different corn varieties for this? I am planting only Heirloom OP seed which is a leap forward on nutrients vs typical commercial hybrids (many were hybridized to resist chemicals and little else, one farmer told me the deer won't eat some of the new varieties, so what do the cattle think?). Last year I planted Reid's Yellow Dent and this spring I'm adding Blue Hopi because it has twice the protein percentage of other OP and Commercial varieties. Otherwise I'm on the interseeding program too, broadcast last year right after corn planting and had too much competition early so this year delaying to V3/4/5 stage as I've found better research. Glad to see you showing both irrigated and dry-land testing.
Thanks for mentioning the Phos. our alfalfa is supposedly phosphorus defficient... always need to apply more MAP, but why not if we only use 15% will have to check out those video!
Great video! When did you plant this corn and when did you interseed? What growth stage was the corn when you interseeded? Did you use any herbicide? Thank you for sharing your journey!
V6 on irrigated v5 dryland We used a pre-emigrant on the dry land We sprayed to kill the beardless trit on both circles The first one we sprayed again the 2nd one we only sprayed the one time
Do you think that folks will ever reconcile their differences with palmer amaranth ? Nature's free cover crop...??? I read that it forms fungal associations and of course increases soil biodiversity, i mean you pulled one up and it had a worm in it's rhizosphere. As the most hated plant on earth I doubt it, but I have always wondered if a row-mow (in-row mower, like Rick Clark has) could knock in back early and then leave it as a cover. people will think this is totally nuts, but.. who knows
I think Gabe Brown is doing this with a mix of many plants that seed themselves. What doesn't grow well one year will come up the next. The idea is to plant cover crops once.
Great question We have a test strip on the Dry land this year but we won’t see a difference because most of it didn’t germinate Irrigated we didn’t see any difference in yield the first year so we havnt done test strips sense that first year and from research universities have done that showed little to no difference we didn’t see the need in our irrigated to do test strips. Here where it is so dry though we will do test strips next year to see if we can see the difference.
I love when people show how their methods deal with the drought, not just ideal conditions. It really helps
Thanks for the encouragement!
I settled in to 20” rows planted green with mechanical termination, then following the combine with the drill I also pulled back to short season corn, 84-90 day, giving me time to establish more covers and get some beef gain before the 1st freeze. 18 years of research brother.
I do also air seed with the combine headers, but I go from corn to wheat, so no rye goes on after corn. Everybody is going to find what works for them if they want to, but I think a lot of guys try to fail subconsciously because they don’t want to change.
We do very well without using anything synthetic for 21 years. It’s different though. I’ve noticed that in areas where the yields are lower than the corn belt, they can achieve equal yields to the usual conventional farms, and even beat them. Honestly, you can’t grow corn like a corn belt I state farmer anywhere else without frying your land. You don’t get to do it wrong.
I get yield drags between 10-40%. It depends on the ground and how long it’s been in the rebuilding program. I don’t think my kids will, because we should hit 8-9% soil organic matter by then. We’re making an investment in something that won’t really hit its full potential until after we’re gone. It’s a good legacy though.
Thanks for the feed back
If considering planting the interseeded cover crop at same time as planting the corn, choose species that are a little slower out of the ground than the corn. Faba beans, yellow blossom sweet clover, common or hairy vetch, or even alfalfa. Once the corn is harvested, cereal rye can be drilled into the green stand of legumes.
Thanks for the feedback Christina! We are going to try some different mixes in 2023
Makes me excited for spring. Gotta fix all my mistakes from last year
I like the soil armor on the dryland field!
"Chasing more nutrient dense corn crop for consumers" are you testing and specifically selecting different corn varieties for this? I am planting only Heirloom OP seed which is a leap forward on nutrients vs typical commercial hybrids (many were hybridized to resist chemicals and little else, one farmer told me the deer won't eat some of the new varieties, so what do the cattle think?). Last year I planted Reid's Yellow Dent and this spring I'm adding Blue Hopi because it has twice the protein percentage of other OP and Commercial varieties. Otherwise I'm on the interseeding program too, broadcast last year right after corn planting and had too much competition early so this year delaying to V3/4/5 stage as I've found better research. Glad to see you showing both irrigated and dry-land testing.
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I have some questions for you on the Heirloom corn
Thanks for mentioning the Phos. our alfalfa is supposedly phosphorus defficient... always need to apply more MAP, but why not if we only use 15% will have to check out those video!
Where do you farm at Brenden?
@@youngredangus6041 New Hamburg Ontario, we have Dairy
@@brendengood482
Oh cool! Have you tried using compost extract to cut back on inputs?
@@youngredangus6041 no we haven't, sounds interesting tho!
Great video! When did you plant this corn and when did you interseed? What growth stage was the corn when you interseeded? Did you use any herbicide? Thank you for sharing your journey!
V6 on irrigated v5 dryland
We used a pre-emigrant on the dry land
We sprayed to kill the beardless trit on both circles
The first one we sprayed again the 2nd one we only sprayed the one time
That was awesome info
Thanks for the encouragement
Nice job
Thanks
Do you think that folks will ever reconcile their differences with palmer amaranth ? Nature's free cover crop...??? I read that it forms fungal associations and of course increases soil biodiversity, i mean you pulled one up and it had a worm in it's rhizosphere. As the most hated plant on earth I doubt it, but I have always wondered if a row-mow (in-row mower, like Rick Clark has) could knock in back early and then leave it as a cover. people will think this is totally nuts, but.. who knows
I'm not a row cropper, but I love the stuff. Every animal I've had loves it and in this climate, anything that covers the soil is welcome.
Look into "structured" water
How would adding some grasses to the cover crops work out?
Something that will last year to year without reseeding?
I think Gabe Brown is doing this with a mix of many plants that seed themselves. What doesn't grow well one year will come up the next. The idea is to plant cover crops once.
@@kurt8386 Dutch White Clover seems good.
Do you loose any yield on the corn?
Great question
We have a test strip on the Dry land this year but we won’t see a difference because most of it didn’t germinate
Irrigated we didn’t see any difference in yield the first year so we havnt done test strips sense that first year and from research universities have done that showed little to no difference we didn’t see the need in our irrigated to do test strips.
Here where it is so dry though we will do test strips next year to see if we can see the difference.
You gotta inter seed that stuff earlier
I don’t disagree
We have 2000 acres and 1600 of milo to plant and 150 cows to AI or to put embryos in. I got to it as soon as I could