Southpaw or Orthodox…
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Chael Sonnen talks left or right leg leads in wrestling and MMA on this episode of Beyond the Fight.
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Chael didn’t fight southpaw nor orthodox, he had his own style. Whoop ur ass for 23 minutes but let u win cuz he’s such a sweetheart. The true undefeated and undisputed champion.
Never lost a round
Legend has it he crossed his legs so fast you couldn't even tell if he was south or ortho.
Most 10/8 rounds in history
I will never not be mad about that
2 fucking minutes man...
This is the funniest joke becuz chael was one the worst fighters
Yan is a good mixed stance example, when he's not using pride rules
Bring pride rules back
You mean the bribe rules?
He’s Russian I think they allow the knees there
😂😂😂🤣🤣
@@Maazitung lmao, I think they were referring to the physical rules about knees and kicks to downed opponents, not the whole rigging by Yakuza part😂😂😂 can't we cherry pick, and take the good and leave the bad?
Anyone else starting to miss Chael saying "Blahovavich" every 30 seconds?
thats block-o-vich to you sir
Actually it's pronounced something like "buahowich" but I think he just mixed Jan's and the one from the green character in monsters SA xd
@@jzabala96 nah its blockovitch, blahovitch, AND blahovavitch
“MOCKLECHEV”
George Masvidal
I'm convinced Chael purposely mispronounces fighter's names to get engagement in the comments.
I'm convinced he's trolling us as well
I think it's a little of both, I think he genuinely sucks at name pronunciation, but he noticed the engagement when he would fuck up names, so now he does it on purpose.
@@thegheymantis8702 exactly that
@@isakdahl7875 he's probably thinking to himself "how the hell do you say this guys name anyway? Yeeer? Yaye-er? Yayr? Jayer? Yarear? Holy shit apparently people like it when I say Yarear. Yarear it is"😂😂😂
Nah, all of you are wrong. Remember he's the AMERICAN gangster, if the name ain't AMERICAN it ain't worth pronouncing correctly
I lead with my third leg
Underrated, undefeated
Undisputed leg
Greg the leg
Smoking a bowl and listening to Uncle Chael talk his shit💨
It’s time for dabs
Don’t be scared to improve
@@javiercota3703 dabs are too much of a chore.
@@redrews3 Not with the proper gear
@@redrews3 I recommend the puffco plus for beginners
@@redrews3 so true lol plus it looks like you are smoking crack or meth or something when you do it
Or you can just learn both sides, without being ambidextrous. Stephen Thompson does it.
Thank you! If someone didn't bring up wonderboy, I was going to have to
you could, but you’d have to account for the fact that Wonderboy was taught to train both stances from childhood. it’s far easier for a child to grasp this concept than an adult. for anyone over the age of 16 to be a beginner, it’s far easier if they gain competence in a single stance first. then once that is achieved, begin to learn the other stance.
Yea you don't have to be fully ambidextrous, I'm right handed all the way but I could hit left handed when I played baseball, not nearly as good as right, and I couldn't do it successfully in a game situation, but if I had really worked at that I probably could have been comparable eventually.
Sure...just have your black belt dad start training you when you’re 3
@@33moneyball If u have a dad. Lucky you.
Chael: Jon jones and kamaru usman are the only switch hitters in the sport
Steven thompson: Ok great
Anderson Silva before he was older, GSP, Machida was opposite leg to foot.
Adesanya, Petr Yan, Ciryl Gane, Dominick Cruz, Wonderboy. so many of them
I originally started boxing in the orthodox stance because my "strength hand" is my right hand. Than I forced myself to try the southpaw stance and have my "strong" hand as the jab. And it turns out I also have a pretty lethal left hand as well 😂. So now I've made the switch to southpaw as my primary stance, best of both worlds.
No hate bro but reading your comments reminds me of those dudes who type "Man I don't even need to use my strong hand to win fight lol I'm just so talented and able to switch like its nothing lol I'm just better I guess"
@@showkatali4896 he came across a little douche but I bet a lot of wrestlers have a lot of power in their left hands. It’s just not gonna land often or cleanly when they let it go.
same here, learnt how to box orthodox. then transitioned to kickboxing and done it southpaw. I can now strike from either stance with the same power, speed, and precision; so I'm constantly switching up stances.
My wrestling coach had the team stand on line, hands behind our backs. I was the only one new to the sport and he walked up to me and gave me a shove. If you stepped back with your left leg, it meant your right leg was your lead leg.
I'm right handed, first started boxing, so I had a orthodox stance. After I started wrestling, my coach told me to stand however I was most comfortable and even showed a box stance where neither foot was in front of the other saying it was a "defensive" stance. I kept my orthodox stance. At a camp at Western Colorado University, we were encourage to shooting on our opposite side. It felt so awkward, I don't think I did it again after that camp.
So early I was on top missionary stance
No
Reverse 🤠
Was Joe the Toe there?
Doggy is better
Chael looking like he was in New Kids on the Block.
He has the right stuff?
@@SAM-ru4vx he's hanging tough
This video alone influenced my mma game entirely. I was new to practicing combat sports when I was 23. I didn’t wrestle but watched this video so I started wrestling with my right leg forward. I believe I’m a decent anti wrestler for someone who didn’t wrestle in high school. Fast forward 1 1/2 years later I start Muay Thai. I knew I wanted to train mma so that meant I had to learn southpaw if I wanted to flow with my takedowns. Even though I’m right handed and can strike in both stances I now feel safer in southpaw than orthodox. Still got a lot to learn though
I don’t know if it just me but I’m right handed and I like to lead with my right so I can throw jabs and it actually do more damage than from my left, so the lack of strength from my left is made up by turning my hip just to put more force into it.
Went to my local church just to learn a little bit more about this orthodox stance
Shave my holy grail I’ll show you the way of the priest
Izzy, max and tony all have very good switch stances too, and Colby abs Dustin are both right handed but fight southpaw
My first judo coach never asked me this question, and I subsequently learnt Judo, and how to grapple more generally right handed, however I'm left handed. So when I started striking, I did so South paw, which was my natural grappling stance, which was naturally beneficial
Been saying this for years! I never understood why someone wrestled half their life with the right leg in front and then some of these striking coaches are dead set on making them switch for striking? Honestly they are just to uneducated to realize if someone is a life long wrestler that their first instinct will probably be to wrestle and not strike to begin with.
Probably, because they are just striking coaches working at an MMA gym, not MMA-striking coaches. As an MMA-coach, even if specialized in one area, you have to keep in mind that your area is only one part of the puzzle the fighter needs to put together, and your area has to work seamlessly together with the other areas. And additionally, most striking coaches are not very knowledgeable in teaching the intricacies of a Southpaw, so they mostly just teach orthodox, and if they have an orthodox fighter, they tell him just to "mirror".
Great insight, hope you're doing well in your retirement! Been a fan for years.
I was originally a traditional right handed orphidox but I have now converted to southpaw and I have found much more success in this stance than the orphidox stance. As example in the southpaw stance I can lead with my right and land hard, fast, and more accurate jabs then follow up with a left cross. But in orphidox I had trouble fighting with my left in front. For example when I was faced against southpaws I would almost always get caught with a over hand left but now that I'm southpaw I can fend them off more easily now with hard lead hooks and jabs.
5:30 Izzy's style is switching it up.
I think most of us wrestlers should learn to strike left handed with an emphasis on the jab. Or you can take an open stance but I don’t think you will ever be truly effective at what you’re good at (wrestling) with the wrong leg way out front it’s just to
engraved if you shoot you’ll stutter step your right leg forward and allow to much time for a sprawl.
Good point and I think most strikers should lead with left leg and get used to left leg wrestling stance
I was thinking about this the other day. Boxing pre-1900's had people put thier strong side forward, but they stopped after gloves got introduced. About 40% of mma fighters use southpaw. Lots of karate guys do it too, it gives them better side kicks and jabs.
Umm. I think you left out Dominic Cruz. Who leads with both legs at the same time
Dom still shoots mostly from right side he just takes an extra step when he's in the orthodox stance
bruce lee taught me to lead with my power hand, and ive never lost a fight
and when your foe is smart enough to run away from it you tease him with a boxing stance and he'll eat it
Your a one handed fighter
@@marks6394 if you’re a taller fighter with longer reach it can help a lot though. Since you’re advantage is reach having your jab and teep being powerful and precise is very advantageous because that would be a big part of your game plan regardless of which stance you are in.
I'm an all out lefty in everything I do.
Funny thing is that from doing hitting drills all the time at home, I honestly feel as though I have better shots with my lead hand (right hand!)
My bacc hand is there for power and speed, but only for overhands and straight lefts.
My hooks, my uppercuts, and my power jab's all come from my right arm!!
the last time I was this early my wife got angry
Last time you were this early I met your wife for drinks later.
Is there any other emotion a wife knows?
That is a funny thing. I started learning Judo when I was about seven years old and, until today, I simply cannot say which stance is more comfortable to me. I am not stating I am a great fighter, maybe I am equally bad in both stances. Anyway, my coach never asked me wether I was left or right handed, and I guess I just developed into it without having a main stance (maybe it is even a little more comfortable to lead with my left, even though I am right handed, but maybe that is just because I later trained boxing as an Orthodox). I started training boxing and muay thai later and, since I am right handed, I always trained as an Orthodox (today I am starting to occasionally train my right hand as lead, but it is just to be able to use it here and then, because I know I will never have the same dexterity as a southpaw than as an Orthodox in boxing). I had never really thought about it, but maybe my coach was right on letting us develop naturally into our own stances.
That is more of asian thing. In Wing chun in which i train in. We start from left first because people are right handed therefore the left will be naturally weaker.
I’m south paw and have used left leg forward quite a bit.I felt like I had way more impact and control with Jab and way more torque with my hips while throwing left hook. I can utilize both and do like the advantage you can get in traditional southpaw stance by stepping to the outside of orthodox opponents lead foot and I am more comfortable shooting single legs from southpaw
My boxing coach actually told me to lead with my natural stance (im southpaw but wanted to learn orthodox first but he wasnt having it). I know the older coaches did the opposite, made the southpaws convert.
Tony’s the type of guy to breakdance to the iPhone ringtone
I'm right handed but I prefer to lead with my right hand
Several right-hand southpaws - dustin poirier, nate diaz, colby covington, Islam makhachev. Three out of four are grapplers. I find it interesting I'm a right handed goofy footed skater, southpaw stance.
Great video! I always wondered about this.. I recently started hitting up the different gyms in my town and just follow whatever instructions they usually set. I am fairly ambidextrous and hope to train that way. When leading with kicks I tend to prefer Southpaw and when boxing I tend to prefer Orthodox. I often approach the bag in my apartment with a Southpaw stance for boxing but It's really day to day.. I am a trained professional drummer (jazz specifically) which usually emphasizes complete independence of all 4 limbs. I started off open handed (or left handed) and I even clap left handed. I also skateboard a lot, in skateparks specifically, so I skate a lot of switch stance when doing multiple trick runs (switching lead leg). I love to dance and, you know, walk, so basically I've spent 35 years practicing ambidexterity, so hopefully I can find some coaching that helps me capitalize on my natural tendency to switch stance. I moved back to a small town that's pretty ol' school so pickings are slim! I also only had one real fight in my adulthood which resulted in a win with only 4 left strikes so I'm not sure what that means.. Any questions, comments, insults and trolling is welcomed. I like a good thread!
Im right handed but left footed, orthodox stance is the perfect stance for me wrestling and striking
Acho que deve ter muito brasileiro assim, já que todo mundo aqui joga futebol então acho que não deve ser comum lá fora ter uma "perna correta em que se tem mais coordenação motora. Eu também sou destro nos membros superiores mas canhoto boa inferiores.
Southpaws have the advantage of attacking the body with a liver shot using the power hand.
Unless you have a killer left hook as a orthodox fighter
Southpaws have the disadvantage of leading with their liver side.
This makes more sense because it also involves your strongest leg (kicking leg). I am right handed but left footed. The importance to that is my right to left twist is just as forceful as a lefty who kicks left. My left cross or left hook from the southpaw stance would have the same force as a lefty, even though I’m technically right handed. Gifted
Wonderboy switches more than both combined
I’m right handed and left footed....so both stances have their perks and weaknesses
Same! We're an elite group, ya know.
i'm a right handed southpaw without a wrestling background
I’m right handed and been teaching myself to box for 4 years I didn’t know anything about orthodox or southpaw and being right handed started south paw because it felt more comfortable but as I grow into the sport I’ve become a pretty efficient switch hitter can crack with both hands
I would argue that Izzy is also able to switch stance, but that only makes 3.
I play football and was very left footed. And I’m left handed. But I can not stand being southpaw, it’s very uncomfortable for me because I used to play football, “soccer” and was left foot dominant
you can do whatever you want since in boxing you have 2 hands and you should be fighting any way possible lol at least if you wanna be part of the best
Bro when my coach tols me to lead with my left and I'm a right handed guy....I've been battling with the sense that is supposed to be in it...but this video just made me learn that neither is wrong or correct
Producer: ok Chael we have a video for you to make
Chael realises he has chance to leave family to do youtube
Chael: OK GREAT!
I’ve always been weird, I’ve wrestled since I was In 2nd grade, I am right handed yet I lead with my left leg. I have been very successful doing so, so when I began to attempt to teach myself
How to strike, leading with my left leg felt very natural
Izzy switches stances the most out of all them
I think Dom switches more than Israel but they both do a lot
Ambidextrous
I'm a right handed southpaw. I've tried both stances over the years but it is clear my right jab is better than my left jab and my left straight is better than my right straight. Also, my left leg is noticeably more nimble/natural with kicks, even after a torn meniscus.
some of us always lead with the "3rd leg" ;) but calf kicks should dictate the stance best weapon in MMA
I box primarily southpaw. Doing wrestling in high school leading right. Done many reps shooting leading left wrestling and beginning to implement orthodox . My thought is keep same southpaw tactics and if they switch to southpaw switch to orthodox. That way they must be trained as a southpaw to know what I’m doing in both positions
Antiquated to you knuckle heads with a dominant hand. An equally talented anything that is ambidextrous will have an enormous advantage over their single dominant rival. MMA is too new to be near that point. It’s a matter of time that a talented enough ambidextrous athlete chooses the path of mma.
Im left handed when I write but punch with my right. I fight south paw. But have no problem fighting orthodox
Chanel is right about everything on this sh** I’m a idaho 150lbs state champ wrestler who started Muay Thai and boxing but I can’t fight orthodox it’s too awkward and I lose too much stamina faster than being opposed to orthodox. You can’t be both all the time you can switch but you can strike orthodox then switch to southpaw to wrestle you’ll have to fight southpaw all around.
I may be right-handed, but I lead with my left leg because when I shoot for a double, my right leg is the power leg which I use to push off off.
Yeah, a lot of coaches are now teaching “aim leg” which is sometimes better the left leg
if yr righty, during practice tie a string from right thumb to right ear
I'm right handed and my left leg is always going forward when I box or even wrestle. But I skate goofey which is right leg forward and I snowboard left leg forward. But I kick with my right leg too. Makes 0 sense. And I've been told I naturally switch stances sparring without knowing.
I started wrestling in high school and by then I had already been in plenty of fights and was watching ufc and playing the video game undisputed 3 so I knew for striking the dominant hand is often kept back so I just decided on that day first of wreslting my freshman year I remember thinking "I might get into mma one day so I should learn to wrestle from an orthodox boxing position so I can do both"
The best is learning both.
that is mostly true but there are still boxing coaches who standardly convert southpaws
Literally was just wondering about this. Uncle Chael sent this one through the heavens
there not ever enuf said about switch stance or fighting unorthodox...cus coaches are passing what they been taught instead of pushing the boundaries
Right handed switch hitter drill my left consistently to close the gap between my hands been going pretty well
Your jab is meant to control the fight, confuse your opponent and create distance but not to create mass damage, so you don't need your lead hand to be strongest. After awhile your left jab will feel like your right. Then it time to master the left hook with that odd hand.
But what if your jab could be more precise and faster
I think u should try to get comfortable in both stances, that way if u get ur leg kicked and chewed up u can switch stance to try and protect it and still be comfortable striking and still win the fight, u know like Uncle Chael would do.
1:45 not sure we have seen such a gracious leg adjustment in RUclips history. Good for you uncle chael
Chael talking ab leg switches is like breaking the 4th wall
Southpaw, lead hand being stronger is an advantage, especially if they learn to turn the arm outward instead of twisting inward. Twisting inward requires more timing and is slower to retract and throw again. Twisting outward requires less timing and retracts automatically, and much quicker. Twist outward when jabbing and then bending the fist downward for added power is much better. You don’t need to twist either way for a hook. Jabs and straight punches are quicker and harder to block or dodge because the fist has less distance to travel. It’s seems difficult at first, but once the fighter gets used to the motion of twisting the arm outward, it’s actually easier because it’s the more anatomically correct way of punching. A fighter standing more sideways as opposed to a squared up stance is also a smaller target for his opponent. Southpaw with an outward twisting punch and slightly side stance is superior in my opinion. Also the fighter doesn’t need to drain his energy by keeping his gloves way up in front of his face to keep from getting hit as he tries to get closer to his opponent from a squared up orthodox stance. Twisting inward feels like natural instinct to modern humans with low levels of function due to today’s lifestyle of too much sitting and poor diet. If a person develops a high level of function, twisting outward would become is natural instinct. Most of todays “pro” boxers twist inward and don’t even know that another much better way of jabbing exists. Just a pretty dumb society to be honest. A good, anatomically correct punch practically times itself. Boxing is not a difficult science, it is basic physics and anatomy.
To everyone who’s naming fighters that Chael seemingly forgot who are truly ambidextrous, I’m pretty sure he wasn’t referring to just being ambidextrous in striking. Of course there are numerous fighters who are proficient in both stances, and from a striking perspective the one that would be the most obvious name is Israel Adesanya. And Chael didn’t mention him. Kamaru Usman and Jones are both fighters who can strike with both stances but also wrestle with both lead legs. That’s what I personally believe he meant.
You are not wrong Chael as even in my karate class I’m right foot so I stand right foot forward but in Thai kick boxing I stand left foot forward
I think you kind of proven his point. That there are fighters who are taught or learned in such a way that they prefer a specific foot/stance when practicing one martial art system from another. And anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, I think his main point of this long winded story, is that at some point, for you to be able to do mma and mix the two or more system of martial arts(style) that you've learn is to break away from the idea of preferring specific stance.
On that note, I don't know which style of karate you learn but, here in our part of the world, karate teach students to be able to do with their left what their right can do and vise-versa.
@@kitnoman, Kyokushin an yes you’re taught in both stances but if you’ve ever spared anyone . Everyone usually has a dominant side. Every one is usually more fluid in certain techniques on certain sides. I just was extending an olive branch an agreeing with him an further more giving my wxpirence from taking two separate martial arts an being dealt the same hand.
why did old scool boxing coaches tie up a fighters power hand in practice? so they would quit using it and build equal power in the other hand..thats the methode behind the maddness
FERGUSON v. MCGREGOR is the most sensible match-up
I try to spar and teach my students both guards and it seems to really help footwork and head movement. Creating angles and striking creatively. Same with wrestling I find that switching guards helps open takedowns or grappling its tricky but effective.
Of course you need to work on having very good cardio.
Cung Lee was able to stance switch efficiency as well. If I'm not mistaken, I believe he was a right hand dominant southpaw
Haven't watched the video yet but I want to mention that DC fought southpaw but was right handed, and this was due to his wrestling background.
Israel Adesanya I believe has a better switch stance than Kamaru. But Kamaru is definitely more rounded than Israel. And Wonderboy I'd argue for Ambidextrous too. But then who am I, to question the mighty Chael P. Sonnen. If he says there's 2, then there we have it. There is only 2. Chael has Spoken.
I was a wrestler right handed but wrestled left handed my coaches used to call say
Is this you, Tito?
Im right handed, My brian automatically told me to use my right hand as the jab hand and I can't turn it off. probably too many kung fu movies, but jabs hard and fast as hell though..
I stand beind my student and push them forward. They have a natural inclination to stick their dominant foot forward to catch themself. I find most time this is your dominant side and you will probably learn easier that side. Teaching the other side is usually a bit harder.
I took my wrestling stance and converted myself to a right handed southpaw to jab better and wrestle more quickly.
Ssssoooooo is Chael going to make a video about Hans?
O and develope more power with power punch left or right 😮
Might sound stupid but I don’t know if I left or right handed I write with my left kick with my left but do everything else with my right like throwing a ball I use my right
Uncle Chael Wondeboy is one of the best ambidextrous stickers period
When I was first getting into boxing I had so much trouble finding a gym that would train me southpaw when I’m right handed. But I wrestled first and I can really only wrestle well worth my right leg forward.
Diaz bros are right handed that fight Southpaw
true test stand on skateboard goofy or regular
simple answer: master both
Been looking for this advice for months🙏🏿
I’ve trained capoeira and judo, and neither have mentioned a fixed stance to choose.
I’m right handed I always wrestled, boxed, did jujutsu and judo left foot forward... 🤷🏻♂️
Well what if you're an orthodox stance person, but your left leg is stronger?
Like. I play soccer, and me left is my dominant leg. But power is in my right hand. What's the best stance to adopt? A Southpaw stance so I lead with strong jabs?
That actually sounds like the perfect situation especially if you have long arms. So you could control the fight with a right handed jab and teeps. And ko with your rear leg
This is that one video out of every 69 that actually has knowledge in it wtf
I'm right handed and fight left lead because bas rutten kept telling me RIGHT STRAIGHT! In his vids lol
Now way. Right handed is.left leg
Opposite lizmbs counter balance.
Wait. It makes sense.
The hand u write with .is. Strength.
The other hand is Lighter. So its your jabber.
Shh. Push the shield.
Dang. Love Right Leg Kicking a ball in the air.
Right Kicker!! Beauty!!
No one. Really.
Master the Basics. ..
I Love Both sides of stance.
When Opposite Stance. A few things came more Naturally.
Oo Now i can See How Anderson SiLva Stole my Moves. Noo wayy!!
Diff kick and diff ounch. When opposite stance. Feelings wow.
Yet coach of boxing didnt know i had self wrestling stance. I could not blend. Bc i didnt know. Blend Beauty
Chael Sonnin advice: “You’re going to need to lie” 😂
Did anyone else flinch at 1:57 when that powerhouse of a left hand came at me on screen?
Both.....read more jkd people, the concepts/techniques go well with mma. I mean it has judo/jiu-jitsu, wrestling, kickboxing, muay thai, kali. So it is mma anyway, even just as is
not entirely true im lefthanded and usually orthodox but got the big powerpunch when i switch
Does izzy not switch stances too ?
My Karate teacher as a left hander had me lead left handed, I don't know if it was out of calculation or lack of