tier ranking iconic love triangles because I watched Challengers
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- really just an excuse for me to blather on about Challengers
also if you want to read more of me blathering on about Past Lives: catontheinternet.substack.com...
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - intro
01:09 - highly scientific tier ranking system
02:46 - Challengers
04:53 - Past Lives
06:49 - Twilight
09:00 - The Summer I Turned Pretty
12:01 - The Notebook
13:32 - The Hunger Games
15:31 - To All the Boys I've Loved Before
16:42 - Pride and Prejudice
18:44 - Never Have I Ever
20:22 - Iron Widow
22:05 - outro
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"A plot device with some dude's name" had me rolling
the hunger games is such an important triangle to me because of the fact that people rooted for gale. gale felt like he was owed a relationship with katniss, and that was the reason they never worked. katniss didnt like to owe people, she didnt want to be expected of anything, and peeta quite literally only wanted her to be happy. it baffles me when people say that they shouldnt have ended up together because if they loved eachother and he genuinely cared for her goals and interests shouldn't that be enough? maybe he isnt for everyone but he was the reason katniss let herself love and trust that people can be inherently good even after experiencing what she did. Maybe its because i never liked gale, i think they are both important characters but it was clear to me from day one that gale never stood a chance
yeah I think Katniss does get a “happy” ending with Peeta (even though it’s bittersweet and they are both clearly still traumatized and maybe will be forever). he’s the person she needs to heal with
The latest season of Heartbreak High has a true love triangle! Challengers sounds amazing I can’t wait to see it :)
thanks for the rec!! I hope you enjoy it, I was so immensely entertained
Clockwork Angel has my favorite love triangle, highly recommend
Yesss, jem, will, and tessa are a absolutely perfect love triangle, even though will and jem aren't conanically romantically in love
I was thinking the same thing!! Literally only love triangle I’ve ever read where I literally couldn’t choose who I wanted her to be with
I’m so glad you touched on the WOC protagonist choosing a yt man over a MOC pattern. It’s happened too many times not to notice!
I lowkey expected The Vampire Diaries xD because that is one messy love angle. Btw. I love that I finally found someone that acknowledges that it isn't a love triangle when there are two men pining after one woman. Thank goodness! I love you for that
I actually haven’t watched the vampire diaries?? but maybe I should haha I enjoy mess 😂 lol yeah give us proper yearning with real love triangles!!
I'm surprised that Phantom of the Opera didn't come up. The Phantom is a horrible person, but so many people (including the playwright himself) think Christine should choose him.
it's been so long since I've watched Phantom of the Opera that I completely forgot it's a love triangle! time for a rewatch
"if you were to strike a chord, it would be A minor" a kdot fan?? yesssssssss, i knew you were a great booktuber to follow 💖 i loooooved 'iron widow'.
I feel like you're presentation of the hunger games's love triangle (Gale and Katniss side) is backwards. Katniss didn't have a crush on Gale, while he didn't notice her. He had a crush on her, never told her before she went to the game, and she was not thinking of love or a crush with him.
you're probably right bc it's been a long time since I read all the books! but then did both Peeta and Gale like Katniss before the games and she just didn't notice/care lol I love her for that
you are so real for including pride and prejudice 😌 my type of video, all the analysis was so accurate
pride and prejudice girlie for life 💞
Oh good, I saw "a triangle is the strongest shape" and I was like. Okay Iron Widow BETTER be in this list or I'mma riot. XD
I NEED more people to read Iron Widow, the love triangle is so so good
Admittedly, I just read the first Hunger Games for the first time so I haven’t read the rest of the series, but Katniss gave me ace energy the entire book. I felt like Collins wanted us to root for one of the boys, but she didn’t seem interested in either, or really romance in general. Maybe that changes in the later two books, though. In the meantime, I’m team Katniss.
yeah I can see that, Katniss is too busy trying to survive to even think about romance. you do see how important both of the guys are to her in different ways but the relationships are secondary to the overall themes and help complement Katniss’s overall character arc rather than being the primary focus
it’s definitely more of a focus in the second book, i’ll just say that.
i love iron widow's love triangle! didn't see the challengers vibes until you pointed it out but now it makes so much sense why i like both...
Past Lives mentioned?? I just watched it, and I think it's so beautiful
I saw it twice in theaters which is how you know I really liked a film bc I normally can't be bothered to go outside but it was even better the second time
One True Loves is a love triangle. Also I would love to see a part two.
Love your vibes :D
People have already said Jem x Tessa x Will (Infernal Devices) but you said polyamorous with Iron Widow and my mind IMMEDIATELY went to Kieran x Mark x Christina from the Dark Artifices trilogy by Cassandra Clare. They may have all started out as secondary characters, especially in the first book, but by book three we got POVs from all of them and they were pretty much protagonists in their own right, I’d argue as much as Emma and Julian themselves.
The most iconic one I can think of is Tessa x will x Jem from the internal devices! A true love triangle 🫶🏻💟
Past lives is amazing movie 🎥 and I would definitely watch it again since the movies.
Great vid! If you do a sequel, it could be fun to include Casablanca, arguably the GOAT. Or Les Miz, or yup I'm here for whatever :)
oooh noted!!
My favorite love triangle is from a dragon book series 💀
idk if you've read legendborn, but there's a love triangle in it kinda! i haven’t read the second book yet but its a highly enjoyable read, i really recommend!!
this is on my TBR!!
Why is no one talking about legendborn!? Now, that is a proper love triangle.
Team Maybe Date Outside the Family xD killed me lol
I honestly don't know if I've ever enjoyed a love triangle that much. I recently read The Hedgewitch of Foxhall and I feel like the the love triangle in there was mostly like......"Fine, it's for the plot" but I feel like that is giving it too much credit. The book was five stars to me but the love triangle just felt...meh. Plot device I guess lol.
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haha that's honestly so nice bc I start to hate hearing myself talk after editing these videos, but having these conversations is so fun it makes it all worth it! thanks for watching :')
btw in the latest and last season of never have i ever devi actually ends up alone
I think she ends up w Ben at the very very end but it's true she does have a lot of character growth and healing on her own which I appreciated so much
Im surprised vampire diaries wasnt included!
The love triangle of the Star Wars original trilogy has one of the worst conclusion, instead of deciding that the princess will simply prefer a guy over the main character they added a twist that added some plot holes and that is only used to conclude the love triangle in a lazy way, and the love triangle is not that important to the story
To be honest, I found the development of Iron Widow's relationships to be somewhat mid (?).
Spoilers ahead!
From the beginning of the book, we're in the protagonist's perspective, and it's clear that Li Shimin behaves differently compared to the rumors. On the first night he spends with Zeitan, he shares his past with her, but Zeitan's opinion of him doesn't change at all. I don't know if I'm the only one, but I felt that their relationship could have been better if we saw a real change in Zeitan's behavior towards him over time. It would have been more impactful if, once they genuinely became friends, Zeitan opened up more about herself.
Additionally, the pacing of their relationship development felt rushed. Instead of allowing for a gradual build-up of trust and understanding, their connection seemed to advance abruptly after certain key moments. This rapid progression undermined the potential depth of their bond. It would have been more engaging to witness a slower, more nuanced transformation in their dynamic.
Moreover, the complexity of their individual backstories and traumas deserved more exploration. Delving deeper into how their past experiences shape their actions and interactions could have enriched their relationship and provided a more satisfying emotional payoff.
I haven't read the second book yet as it's not available in France, so perhaps my opinion will change once I read it. However, based on the first book alone, I believe that a more gradual and detailed development of their relationship would have made for a stronger narrative
(Sorry I yap a lot 😅)
I agree though. I didn't feel much for any of the ships (yet).
Zetian and Yizhi already knew and liked each other from the beginning, so i would have preferred seeing how they met/fell for each other. It just seemed too convenient for me. The Shimin/Yizhi is new, so it's whatever for now. Overall, I'm lukewarm on them, though, yeah, book 2 could improve on them.
Anyway, the release of book 2 is still in December (I hope, since there have been delays), though it might be later for my country.
Have to say, I kind of hated the end of Hunger Games. Like I get that Peeta was the person who understood Katniss's experience best but it always felt icky. Like the capitol had won in the end, because they got the couple they wanted.
that’s an interesting take I hadn’t thought of, but true powers in the Capitol didn’t want them to survive at all and tried to weaponize their relationship
Their love was never something the main powers in the capitol wanted, they wanted them dead. Snow wanted them dead. They turned Peeta into a weapon precisely for the reason to kill Katniss, but that failed because he thankfully managed to recover some semblance of who he used to be. If we’re discussing the capitol citizens, then I’m pretty sure any fondness they had for them being a couple disappeared once the Rebellion happened. Their love never managed to be the capital’s property. It was always the weapon that dug deeper instead.