How A "Throw-In" Player Changed An Entire NBA Franchise
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Marc Gasol got traded to the Memphis Grizzlies 2008, part of the Pau Gasol trade package. Initially, the Pau trade was viewed very negatively, as everybody thought the Lakers got the steal of the decade. But it turns out...it was a great trade for both parties.
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Grizzlies before Marc Gasol: 0 playoff wins.
Grizzlies with Marc Gasol: 24 playoff wins, including a WCF appearance.
But what if they had both. You combines Pau’s talent, his scoring decent defence and strength with Marc’s fundamentals intelligence and great defence
Which Gasol are you talking about?😂😂 Marc or Pau or both
Man Amongst Boyz I meant to talk about Marc.
dudes a beast
@@CDio-vr3bx i think if they have both Marc wouldn't be the player he is today. i feel like he would've been a advanced robin lopez lol. grizzy fan btw
Definitely , The Gasol brothers are one of the most underrated players in the NBA . They really helped their respective teams of course , gasol winning 2 rings in LA and Marc Gasol winning for Toronto last year , both very underrated
so awesome, Love that Marc got one with The Raptors
I used to think they were the same player, lol!
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I think they are the only brothers in NBA history to have both rings, if I'm not mistaken (feel free to correct me)
@@James-de4wx both curry brothers has rings and also chris boshes brother also has one
One of the most underrated win win trade ever
well said
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If by "win win" you mean two rings for the Lakers then yes it was.
cleftintwain still a win win regardless. You think Pau would’ve won Memphis a ring?
@Nicholas Davis I guess if you are a lower tier team relevancy counts for something. Maybe those Memphis teams would have been better with Pau. Marc was a better rim defender but Pau was a better overall player.
Regardless it was a huge win for the Lakers(there is no way you can convince me that Marc fills Pau's shoes in the 2010 Finals)and at best it turned out to be a push for Memphis. I don't think so but there is a argument to be made.
A little story about Marc Gasol:
When I was nine years old I went to my first ever Grizzlies game. I had no clue what was going on because I didn't know basketball too much and it was still very new to me. During halftime though, the Grizzlies were walking to the locker room and I was in one of the stands close to their entrance. Marc Gasol gave me a fist bump through the stands out of all the other players who were there. Looking back on it almost 10 years later, I see that Marc actually cares about his fans and that Memphis will be his forever home.
Great video by the way! Absolutely killed it!
Marc Gasol is BY FAR the best player in Grizzlies franchise history, although I’m still puzzled as to how he could have won Defensive Player of the Year in 2012-13 if he didn’t make First Team All Defense.
This comment didnt age well 💀 Gasol joined the lakers
@@lakersin5260 wdym ? Memphis will still be his home even tho he went to Toronto and LA
@@torreystennitt5079 only to don't give the trophie to Lebron
Marc Gasol is one of the most underrated centers of this decade, definetely deserved all of his awards! Much respect for him because he was humble all time in his career!
You are 100% right Calin, I might have to make a video on Marc soon myself
@LaRue Mathis yep
Marc is kinda like Jokic before Jokic, can score, pass, although Marc was way better defensively, while Jokic is better at scoring and rebounding
I feel like Marc could’ve matched him on assists per game if Memphis was more lethal offensively. Very similar players
Marc is a great team defence leader, too. He can lock up in the paint as an individual, but he's great at taking command and direct his team defensively.
As for passing, I still remember when they first made the trade. They were a game or two in and Lowry passed to Gasol. Gasol gave it back to him and Lowry was so thrown off he almost lost the ball lmao! You could tell he wasn't used to the big man passing back hahaha
Marc is way better on D than the Joker
@@LatisARG debatable
@@inthepaint2907 not debatable, Marc won dpoy and jokic nowhere near all defensive team
This trade was overblown about being one-sided, it was a win-win trade. There are worse trades out there.
It depended entirely on one player turning out to be great, which he wasn’t expected to be.
you are spot on my man
Like the clippers trading their whole future for pg
Like the Nets giving all those first round pick for the aging players smh
@@jonu7280 I don't know man! if you were not watching European basket? maybe! the guy was a hit in Spanish team back then already!
Great topic! Both Gasols were highly underrated!
Daniel Ally best brother duo in NBA history!
Ok
I mean Pau isn't that underrated
Facts
@LaRue Mathis I meant to say Pau isn't that underrated
Mane being from Memphis, I couldn’t even explain how happy I was for Marc when the Raptors won that ring last season #GritNGrind
Glad to see another grizzlies fan in the comments
bro fr i ordered a framed marc gasol signed picture of him on the raptors after he won his ring i was so happy for him
The Gasol trade was evaluated terribly by the NBA press, mostly due to lack of knowledge about the ACB at that time. While during the previous year Marc had been a pretty average player, and was selected in the second round of the draft, the year of the trade he was playing at a level that the ACB hadn't seen since Sabonis. If he had been drafted that year, he would have been a mid to high lottery pick.
well said my man
I doubt they thought he would be a multiple time all star though
@@Alberto-xz7th true
What does ACB mean?
@@drwsp5096 ACB is the Spanish basketball league.
Those Grit and Grind Memphis Grizzlies teams in the early 2010s were just amazing
They have the potential to bring it back with the young core that they have today. I maybe a Lakers fan but I'm not one of those that blame some player for losing, except that time Lebron choked and missed 2 free throws last season against the Spurs and for ruining for what could have been a great young core in the league by joining. They may be in the Finals but they did what the Cavs did when he came back and stopped the rebuild by trading mostly everyone just to win a ring. Only team that didn't do that was the Heat since they had the pieces. It could be nice to see how a Kobe, Pau and Marc tandem would have performed if we played our cards right instead of floundering like Kupchak did. Not that pissed about not getting CP3, just pissed how the team went after the 2012-2013 season and now since I was hoping to see how the core would turn out to be.
@@lakerfan2874 why you mad at LeBron. You won a ring
That Grit and Grinding Memphis team with Gasol, Conley, Allen & Z-bo was heavily underrated. Loved watching those guys play.
Marc Gasol and Z Bo were the defensive glue that held the grizzlies together. You want to talk about grit and grind there you have it.
Yeah and Z-Bo was one reason that Marc’s rebounding numbers weren’t higher. Neither one of them could jump but they knew how to box out and eat space 🍔🍗
One of the most underrated bigs. That Memphis team was tough and largely because of Marc
You're spot-on right there Nick
I never knew Marc was the damn 48th pick damn! This man can be just as good as his big brother even then, crazy underrated trade and win win for both teams.
How good was Dan Issel a soild primary scorer and rebounder in the ABA and NBA in the 70s and 80s
No one cares about 70s and 80s dude, it won't be a popular video.
@@emintd21 no one cares about bird magic Jordan zeke Clyde and so many more? Gtfoh
@@LegendOfKhaos12 i am not talking about myself. Most people in RUclips are a lot younger and they don't even know or care about early 2000s. A video about 70s-80s will be a lot less popular.
i miss the grit n grind memphis era. those guys were fun to watch and i'm so happy when they reached the conference finals before. they would have been a great team if they have some more offensive threat players.
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2005:swept by grizzlies
came here to say this lol
Seen that aswell
Came here for that too.
Pretty sure he meant "swept by SUNS"
well its at the 420 mark, so you know what that means, Andy's been getting some of that good stuff ;)
Last time I was this Early,the Cavs were contenders.
lmao nice
Na, the heat were contendin- oh wait
Lmao
The Grti N Grind Grizzlies were one of my favorite teams to watch 2011-2014
And the most impressive part was Marc was a second rounder
so crazy and now the man has a ring, such a beast
04:23 they swept themselves like how Morris threw the ball
thank you, that Morris play was terrible, Yeah Danny Green should've made the shot but the Morris play was even worse too me
no one sees that.. lol it was phoenix
lmao
I appreciate the love for Marc! As a grizz fan, I always felt like he was underrated by most nba fans. I’m glad to see someone noticed how valuable he was to the grizzlies
Thank you for this video Andy. The Gasol brothers are the most importante thing that happened to spanish basketball, and watching them get the reconition they deserve is great. Again, thank you!
if you want to see the true value of marc you just need to watch the 2019 second round against the sixers. he completely shut off embiid
Love Marc, even on 2K he is amazing despite having 78 rating.
His jumper is really good
USSRsniper 187 amazing, the pick and pop with him is really fun. When I play with him he gets amazing numbers, scoring like 4/5 threes, and defending the best post player from the other team and grabbing a lot of rebounds😂
I always put really good number when I use him in 2k
Really? Laker fans back then portrayed Pau as the worst player ever and blamed all their problems on him. Really an ungrateful fanbase.
They still are If Lebron doesn’t win this championship they bout to be on his ass
Cam So Chill 100% but he’s gonna win it tho
@Vante you mean Skip would say that lol
Laker fans are the most dickhead fans ever
@Vante it’s crazy cause I don’t even like Lebron
I loved Marc Gasol.
Reminded me of old skool Centers, with a twist, to conform to the modern era.
The Joker IS the continuation of Marc Gasol.
Woah the grizzlies were so bad back then they got swept by them self
yup
And i thought i'm the only one who saw that. I kept on rewinding and pausing as i can't process what i saw.
@@pierrecharleschua3895 lmao I know
I think Andy Hoops meant to type they were swept by the Suns in 2005.
Yeah, I found the same error, 2005 swept by Grizzlies, I was like wtf
lmao pron
Good catch
Yeah meant to type that.
You know the Grizzlies actually had 900-1 title odds that season, the 5th highest in the league.
They had a phenomenal young core of Pau Gasol, Jason Williams, Mike Miller, James Posey, Shane Battier, Bonzi Wells, Earl Watson.
Then after that season they made a disastrous trade with Miami trading Jason Williams and James Posey for an aging Eddie Jones.
Posey and Williams became key pieces to that 2006 Heat championship team, and Jones lasted a year and half with the Grizzlies before they were soon one of the worst teams in the league.
Marc Gasol is one of my favorite players, glad you’re giving some recognition. Definitely one of the best and underrated big men of the 2010s.
The "Grit and Grind" Grizzlies era defined Marc's career the most
if we're talking about great players who were throw-ins in trades, how about when the Bucks got Khris Middleton from the Pistons to make the Brandon Knight for Brandon Jennings trade work under the salary cap.
Andy I wish i had consistency in my content like urs keep up the great work 🔥
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Paul Gasol is one of the most underrated players ever. 2 rings, multiple all starts, all nba teams, and gets no love
Pau*
He should make the Basketball Hall of Fame when he's eligible.
I love Pau and clearly also Marc, but more I think about this and more I asking, why in the hell no one seems even to remember Pau ? ( I take him like example because he have more rings ) Even old-time Lakers fan seems to don't give a shit about him, is disrespectful and strange, I really dunno why.
@@stefanocanicchio7278 I know exactly what you mean, it is very odd
Stefano Canicchio It’s because if not for Pau playing like ass the first time they played Boston, Kobe would’ve had a three peat. But all players have their problems and things they need to overcome to get better
You should make a video on the most underrated center of the 2010s.... Brook Lopez
I second this people forget he was an all-star
He was really good
easily one of the best centers of the decade
Marc gasol is better
He was Jokic first lol
His IQ, passing & midrange was elite can't lie!
Marc Gasol defensive IQ at his best years could have easly been rated 90-95 if we rate to scale of 100. And that would definetly be top 3 if not best rating in the league. All around he was really good, but his IQ especially in defence was one of the best.
P.s sorry for my English, its not the first language.
@Slatternly Skaghalter yeah, but they needed not even 3 and D Players, but just some 3pt specialists and some spacers/marksmans extra to make bigger runs in playoffs
No mention that the grizzles new exactly how good he was from living in memphis and going to highschool in memphis
I just did a resim on 2k14 pc w./ the grizz which also has draft classes mods from 2014-2022. Gasol was fun to play. I was suprised Mike Conley got 2 allstar selection in my sim
Awesome profile video. He was definitely underrated defensively. Another intangible Marc Gasol was good at was the hockey assist.
Shout out to Gasol for winning Defensive Player of the year while making only making second team all defense the same year
4:25 error - "2005 swept by Grizzlies" Pau was on the Grizzlies, I think you meant to say "swept by Suns"
Came to post this
I got a photo with marc several years back in a barnes and noble, and he even called me out by name when he was leaving. He’s been my favorite player since. Awesome guy.
Imagine if that grit and grind grizzlies team has prime Jimmy Butler, just saying.
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Rings
Very underrated Center & probably the Grizzlies greatest player of all time
I like the box out thing too...more important than rebounding
Here from spain is nice to see the recognition that Marc and pau gasol deserve 🇪🇸
Thank You Marc for your contributions to our 2019 title. We don’t win that finals without having a basketball savant protecting our rim and commanding our defense froM the back end. You’ll always have much love from Toronto and you’re a god damn legend bruv. Very very underrated, stats don’t do his true impact justice........btw what he did in our title run to some of his matchups like Nikola Vuc and Embid , Marc gave them the BUSINESS
Funny how Greg Popovich mocked the grizzlies after gasol trade, but memphis upset san antonio in 2011 as the 8th seed, when they had one of the best regular seasons in big three SA era.
I’m so happy he got a ring him and pau can talk about there championships together with family
As a Suns fan who didn't get to root for my team in the playoffs during that era. Memphis was always the team I rooted for come playoff time because I loved their playstyle and players. Marc, Conley, Randolph were awesome and the games were so exciting! Now I have such a soft spot for the grizzlies even with the Suns finally being good again haha
You should do a video about David Thompson. He is extremely underrated and he deserves more respect as a consistent top 6 in MVP voting
4:17 ahhh the infamous 2005 first rounder, where the grizzlies swept the grizzlies
8:16 Dude tripping in the background is the real highlight of this video.
Danny can’t green is a choker. Morris was controlled by JR
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I love this mans content! Should have more subscribers
Marc Gasol will be HOF for sure, as a NBA Champ, DPOY, All Star, Euroleague champion, EuroBasket champion, World Cup champion, Olympic sliver and bronze medals, Spanish champion,.....
For sure an underrated sign great analysis Andy! Thanks for inspiring me and my vids and I hope to be like you someday but I still get no recognition at all :((
Marc was a major key player for the Raptors winning it all last year. Offensively in the playoffs he was brutal and I felt like I was gonna have an aneurysm watching him, but on the defensive side he led the team. If you watch him closely on defence you can see he's directing the rest of the team. Kawhi is a great individual defender, but I think the Raptors defense was really beefed up by the addition of Gasol.
And as much as I love JV, he struggled against Embiid a lot. Without Gasol keeping Embiid in check, I don't think the Raptors would've made it past round 2.
You gotta make a How Good Was Zach Randolph. Dude was a beast for over a decade
Marc Gasol is a true basketball fan's player. His game is like Ty Corbin back in the day when Corbin was the best team defender in the NBA and got no credit at all for it. Only those who really know the game and can tell when a player's IQ is so high that they can outmaneuver the other team can appreciate a game like Marc Gasol has. Absolutely love him and his brother.
Without Marc the Raps championship run looks a lot different. Who’s stopping Vuc, Embiid, Giannis?
the ads you have in this video beats marc gasol's record in making the all star
Being from Europe it was not much of a surprise that the Gasol brothers had a respectable NBA career. Those guys were beasts and dominating in Europe before NBA. Though the Spanish league and Eurobasket is no NBA it's still filled with talented full grown men who know the game. But then again we have had a few European players over the years who have really underperformed when they started playing in the NBA.
Great topic, gasol is one of the best big man to play, he don't mind banging inside while having the ability to shoot it at mid range earlier in his career, sooner adjusted to be a great 3 point shooter, but was always the backbone of the Defence and constantly making plays for his teammates on both ends, hope he signs and win with lakers #grit grind
Did Marc Gasol deserve DPOY over LeBron in 2013?
Grit N Grind Grizzlies were no joke
Correct me if wrong, but Gasol didnt even make All NBA Defensive 1st team, so by definition Lebron deserved it.
Tony Allen should of won it, better defender than Marc, or LeBron lol
@@vegan4life64 Tony Allen reminds me of Marcus Smart. Just that he has even worse offense lol
@@boxingdegenerate9077 Haha Smart was straight up ballin against the Heat
This Trade Ultimately became One of the Best Win-Win trades in Recent memory. Marc became one of the Best Grizzlies of AllTime and Pau went to a Lakers team & to a Win-Now Kobe Bryant that needed a Robin to his Batman. Kobe helped Toughen Pau up into a Hall of Fame Worthy player. Marc's playing style eventually evolved to become a Central part of the Grizzlies defining 'Hustle & Bustle' playing style.
We had J Will... Shane Batier... Mike Miller... we had a dope team
I’m a big Grizz fan and seeing a video about Marc Gasol in my sub box filled me with so much joy
Another masterpiece of a video by Andy Hoops. Thank you
Gasol was already making a name for himself in the international scene. The controversy for me was the timing. Timberwolves GM or VP mChALE traded KG to the Celtics not to LA. And Grizzlies traded Gasol to LA by their GM which was appointed or recruited ( don't know what term or word to use) by Jerry West
Marc, one of my fave players!!
He will be hella underrated, he was a slightly less consistent / aggressive Jokic with similar passing and shooting skills. He's the perfect player for the modern game
Great vid man keep em coming
Raptors fan here... love the breakdown! Especially the last part about finding his niche in a changing league!
Can you make a video on nba expansion?
I like your background music. It's so relaxing and you're the only one I know who uses it in their videos. Do you ever live stream?
Fun fact: He became Defensive Player of the Year and a member of 2nd All-Defensive Team on the SAME SEASON.
Let be guess you a salty lebron fan?
Another thing to consider and this is once mentioned by Doug Collins during the TNT broadcast of the 2010 NBA All-Star Game is that this Pau Gasol trade for his brother Marc and other throw-ins basically create enough space and use it to bring in Zach Randolph.
I have heard Marc was good back then, he can be a good backup atm to Bynum and not kwame brown. I was bummed he was included in the trade, like oh well there goes some future since they were trading for Pau.
funny, Pop really lost in this trade, his teams got knocked out by the Lakers and Grizzlies, and the lakers got 2 titles and Spurs only 1 title after the trade.
Marc played high school basketball in Memphis too.
And that's another example of why NBA teams have to look up in big FIBA tournaments.
In 2006 world FIBA championship, Pau Gasol got injured in the semifinals against Argentina, Marc came to save the day in the finals game, completely cancelling the big man from Greece, Sofoklis Schortsanitis, who destroyed USA team in the semifinals.
And here, Marc was not supposed to be either in the Spain team, he had only 21 years and he was completely out of weight, but it was a perfect example of what it is said in this video.
Plus, he developed a great 3 point shot, adapted to the changes... love watching him play!!
Great to see that someone has given my boy Marc some needed love.
2005 they were swept by the Suns*
No no trust me the Grizzlies swept themself out that season =-)
Both of them can do it all I wish they could had played together Marc at C, Pau at PF
Gasol is very underrated and finally got the championship he deserved
Great video, Andy!
Only RUclipsr to make anything on the grizzlies pre-Ja
I remember this trade. At the time, most people were thinking how lopsided that trade was. Looking back now, it wasn’t as lopsided as we all thought. Marc Gasol turned out to be a great player. Both Gasol brothers were underrated players.
As spanish i allways like Marc and i think the video resumes pretty well why i like him. He is a very smart player that makes impact on a deeper level than more flashy players in the league. When you get to recognice that makes you like more the game and it become more of a team game than a iso one
Look at Marc man... So inspirational
Talk about making Lemonade out of lemon. I was pulling for Marc. I loved that Grit N Grime squad in Memphis.
Felicidades Marc! Thanks for being in the NBA all these years.
As Lebron James said "spanish national team don't produce guys that don't have high basketball IQ" and Gasol brothers are a great example of that. Pau and Marc never were he best scorers,or the best rebounders, but they always made other teammaters better and at the end of they day the team where they played it was better with them. We all remember Pau's times in LA but the two years in Chicago were really impressive.
Marc gasol is my fav all time
As a Raptors fan watching Marc's playoff games last year, his 3 pointers, although not lights-out shooting, were enough to keep the opponents honest and can't leave him wide open. His defence is not as flashy, as Ibaka's blocks, but essential in the overall team defence. Not to mention he overplayed Embiid!
grizzlies KNEW what they were doing, they KNEW just how GOOD that MARC gasol could be seeing how GREAT his BROTHER was for them
Did I read 4:26 right the Grizzles got swept by the Grizzles