Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
This is because of Technology. Companies make robots which help with everyday life or to produce other things, they hold the keys to technology and therefore charge the rest of us a rent for its usage. This is why people are rallying not to let this techno-aristocracy rise because it is going to create a profoundly unequal world, the likes of which the world has never seen.
So true in every sector. Just think about our medical situation. We have cures but government pushes for vaccinations every 8 month. Subscription like renting and long term hiring gives permanent instead of occasional profit
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
We need to make co-operative business models and economic democracy the absolute priority of the left, it's quite literally the definition of leftism. It's imperative we make it a major priority in our discourse and advocacy
@@tulmulzjakmumlj nope, co-ops already exist and function. Socialism isn't central planning, it's just when workers democratically control the economy. Market socialism is real, and the new standard model. Pretty much every modern socialist economist wants a market.
@@edencastillo4417 It's a significantly better model, and would provide a platform far more conducive to further marxist ambitions like decommodifying the majority of basic human needs. We've seen state-capitalism happen as an attempt at economic democracy and transition further left, but it has just replaced unaccountable capitalists with equally unaccountable government officials. The idea of having another go at USSR-style central planning doesn't appeal to me or pretty much anybody else. Ultra-long-term, as automation takes over, perhaps central planning will be necessary, but it will literally kill the left's chances of doing anything if we puritanically reject market socialism now when it's so needed.
Biden knows he will be lucky to get through two years so this is it for him politically, he has a real chance, if he takes it, to be a modern FDR. Progressives need to push him! Terrific discussion Owen!
Žižek has a tendency to depart on whimsical trajectories - perhaps that's his 'brand'. But on this, apart from a dominatrix diversion, he stayed on a discernable path. Lot's to think about and worth a second watch. Thanks and well done Owen.
@@mechasartre3694 Like hell he is. He has been laying down one gem of an analysis after another for months now. Ignore his outbursts, of course, but listen to the substance.
@@mechasartre3694 That's funny. Richard Wolff was just on his show. So was Chris Hedges, a short time later. Even Cornel West has come on within the last month or so. "Hermetically sealed," huh?
Thanks so much! Finally quality, I learned so much! Is great to see you both from different generations, county s and context talking and respecting each other
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
EXACTLY. I am hardly well-versed in economics (by "PhD" standards anyway), and I thought this was obvious. How do people think these astronomical fortunes sprang up over night? What do people imagine happened?
Absolutely stellar interview, you covered everything that has been on my mind for a very long time ie capitalist realism, post modern relativism etc. As depressing as the subject is, it's a relief to hear these topic being discussed at long last. Thanks Owen.
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
@@GrantTregellas Would you be kind enough to explain what that does scientifically, and how we might go about applying a filter practically Grant? Or alternatively make a video about it and monetize since a lot of technically clueless youtubers would watch it?
@@archvaldor It just means roll off the low end (bass) frequencies. A high pass filter lets the high frequencies pass through while cutting the frequencies below it (hence the name high pass). Im sure most video editing programs have this ability. You dont need to know anything technical to do it.
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
I can't believe he actually gave the middle finger at the webcam! Žižek and the internet make an explosive combination, but despite the memes he always has something interesting to say.
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
"People secretly enjoy panic." "We want a different end to the world." -- Chile John Berger quoted similar things from the pre-Civil War Spanish anarchists in his book on Picasso. Tout cela me donne des frissons.
Transitioning to a Noam Chomsky plug after watching Zizek for an hour was far too jarring an experience for my weary brain to handle lol! Great video :)
@@inghell Chomsky criticizes Zizek for being an obscurantist. A lot of jargon without real world application. Zizek criticized Chomsky for being an empiricist without a theory
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
“Could covid destroy capitalism” I certainly hope so time and space no longer monopolized people will be free to build their own lives the people have been used and made dependent it’s pathetic.
Trump (Drumpf) is the first postmodern American president. "The postmodern epoch has consumed the American Right" - Matt McManus on postmodern conservatism
Great interview! I notice that a lot of philosophers and politicians, when asked to comment on current affairs, kind of repeat the same things and not in a random order, but in a very well structured way with even the same jokes and examples that lead to a conclusion. It looks like their speach follows a narrative they have constructed and use as a base. Does anybody know if this method/way of evaluating and talking about current afairs has a specific scientific name? Is it some kind of process jurnalists or philosophers follow or just a random thing I noticed?
Partly related, but I want everyone to know there's a cool band called You Thant, who sampled Slavoj on their single "Freedom Hurts" they put out last year, and I encourage everyone to go listen to it :D
Zizek suggests us to hold on to our radical leftism to overcome the radical right. I was hoping him to be more radical than this. Zizek seems to lose his edge and his imagination. I would like to remind him his own words : “Utopia is not kind of a free imagination. Utopia is a matter of inner most urgency, you are forced to imagine it, it is the only way out, and this is what we need today.”
I want more than anything to be able to hear Zizek and understand what he says clearly but he loses me often. He's probably the single popular left wing thinker that I struggle with. Personal failing most likely, so I'll persist!
Between these two leftists one almost feels that the world is better off. If only people would listen to minds like this and think about what's being said.
@owenjones84 I would like to offer a suggestion for a conversation with George Monbiot, on the Interconnectedness of the mercantilism of commodities, the commodification of Life, Capitalism and The Feeling of Lack driving the worsening of Holistic Health, Mental Health and Well Being and the disconnect from Nature. thank you for creating these opportunities promoting the diversification to access Insightful conversations
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@@1j9hd97 And not a source to be found
Will you talk on right wing media or about it?
You hearted your own comment?
InstaBlaster...
ZIZEK IS ON OWEN JONES I REPEAT ZIZEK IS ON OWEN JONES ALL HANDS ON DECK THIS IS THE EVENT OF THE YEAR
And Noam Chomsky
Owen you are a legend
@@shanky1751 Owen Jones is a first class political commentator; must start getting the Guardian again, after many years.
It's nice to hear someone knows😊
@@stephenhardy312 nice☺️👏🏽👏🏽. What are all our ages? I'm going to have the dreaded number that has a 4 with a 0 after it pretty soon😬
This man had my respect when he absolutely inhaled two hotdogs walking down the street, and now he has my attention
I wish that had been my introduction
Keep doing what you are doing Owen. It is massively appreciated.
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
Just finished listening to Slavoj's 9 hour long lecture video. No that's not enough Slavoj for today yet.
Žižek 'Capitalism is moving from profit to rent.' Brilliant, explains so much and leaves so many questions.
This is because of Technology. Companies make robots which help with everyday life or to produce other things, they hold the keys to technology and therefore charge the rest of us a rent for its usage. This is why people are rallying not to let this techno-aristocracy rise because it is going to create a profoundly unequal world, the likes of which the world has never seen.
Yes, and this is truly frightening.
So true in every sector. Just think about our medical situation. We have cures but government pushes for vaccinations every 8 month. Subscription like renting and long term hiring gives permanent instead of occasional profit
Brilliant vid Owen, Slavoj is a legend
Zizek is brilliant.
That was excellent. Thank you both for that discussion there are not enough people with such passion for their subject!
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
That's an interesting theory. What's your source of information?
Zizek seemed very relaxed, very few ticks. Thanks Owen, for the discussion!
Yes, slavoj!
Owen asked 3 questions in a 1 hour conversation 😂
🤣
Yet got 300 replies!
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
@@1j9hd97 Man you've been taking some mad drugs. Would make for a great film though.
Michael Parkinson had more luck with Billy Connolly
We need to make co-operative business models and economic democracy the absolute priority of the left, it's quite literally the definition of leftism. It's imperative we make it a major priority in our discourse and advocacy
Couldn’t agree more
If businesses are competing its still capitalism. You need centar planing for this to work.
@@tulmulzjakmumlj nope, co-ops already exist and function. Socialism isn't central planning, it's just when workers democratically control the economy. Market socialism is real, and the new standard model. Pretty much every modern socialist economist wants a market.
@@edencastillo4417 It's a significantly better model, and would provide a platform far more conducive to further marxist ambitions like decommodifying the majority of basic human needs. We've seen state-capitalism happen as an attempt at economic democracy and transition further left, but it has just replaced unaccountable capitalists with equally unaccountable government officials. The idea of having another go at USSR-style central planning doesn't appeal to me or pretty much anybody else. Ultra-long-term, as automation takes over, perhaps central planning will be necessary, but it will literally kill the left's chances of doing anything if we puritanically reject market socialism now when it's so needed.
@@tulmulzjakmumlj no its not. as you are confusing markets with ownership
Seeing owen and slavoj together is interesting, they represent different aspects of the left quite well.
sorry what different aspects?
@@chrish12345 slavoj emphases class war and upheaval whereas Owen's passions are more towards intersectional social reform.
@@chrish12345 The woke decadent left and the based hegelian left
@@clairestark9024 have u read any slavoj books? lmao the 'left' really is dead forever huh
@@n1nj4sp4rt4n who said the left is dead forever? Nevermind me reading his books, did you read my post?
Privatisation of the commons is the logical outcome of rent seeking - he is 100% right
Biden knows he will be lucky to get through two years so this is it for him politically, he has a real chance, if he takes it, to be a modern FDR. Progressives need to push him! Terrific discussion Owen!
Great interview. And well done, Owen, for getting a word in.
Even when you thank this man, he immediately disagrees with you: "No, I'm really grateful to you".
A true spirit of contradiction! : )
Žižek has a tendency to depart on whimsical trajectories - perhaps that's his 'brand'. But on this, apart from a dominatrix diversion, he stayed on a discernable path. Lot's to think about and worth a second watch. Thanks and well done Owen.
Great interview, really interesting.
Superb! Can't believe that was an hour! Top stuff!
Love you longtime Owen and Zizek, and all the great geusts. From Australia.
By watching Owen Jones, Jimmy Dore, Kyle Kulinski, *and so on and so on*, I've practically stopped consuming mainstream media. Thank you!
Dore is brain poison.
@@mechasartre3694 Like hell he is. He has been laying down one gem of an analysis after another for months now. Ignore his outbursts, of course, but listen to the substance.
As much substance as a hermetically sealed vacuum.
@@mechasartre3694 That's funny. Richard Wolff was just on his show. So was Chris Hedges, a short time later. Even Cornel West has come on within the last month or so. "Hermetically sealed," huh?
Zizek is a global treasure. One of the best educators in the world
Owen, you're doing some amazing work. Chomsky, Zizek, Frankie Boyle. All gold. If you can, get Adam Curtis on. That would make my year!
seconded!
Adam Curtis is a must!
@Kevin Armstrong How?
Adam curtis would be amazing
zizek needs his own podcast lmao
Thanks so much! Finally quality, I learned so much! Is great to see you both from different generations, county s and context talking and respecting each other
Finally someone who just lets zizek talk
Really cool to see Zizek here
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
thanks slavoj, if for nothing but the picture of owen whipping you dressed in latex... :D
🤣
I love Zizek. Great talk! Thanks
16:56 and finally a recognition of the core issue. Financialisation and economic rent as the hegemonic idea (and an extremely dangerous one at that)
EXACTLY. I am hardly well-versed in economics (by "PhD" standards anyway), and I thought this was obvious. How do people think these astronomical fortunes sprang up over night? What do people imagine happened?
And it is truly dangerous, you're so right.
Absolutely stellar interview, you covered everything that has been on my mind for a very long time ie capitalist realism, post modern relativism etc. As depressing as the subject is, it's a relief to hear these topic being discussed at long last. Thanks Owen.
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
No clue who either of these ppl are, but apparently this is quite the occurence! Very insightful convo so far!
loved this interview Owen, your one person I hope to work with one day
Use a high-pass filter on the audio of your guests before you upload. Will clean up the sound massively.
Don't you mean low-pass?
@@IzmirWayne No, high-pass. To get rid of all the muddy room sound.
@@GrantTregellas Would you be kind enough to explain what that does scientifically, and how we might go about applying a filter practically Grant? Or alternatively make a video about it and monetize since a lot of technically clueless youtubers would watch it?
@@archvaldor It just means roll off the low end (bass) frequencies. A high pass filter lets the high frequencies pass through while cutting the frequencies below it (hence the name high pass). Im sure most video editing programs have this ability. You dont need to know anything technical to do it.
Better yet sidechain zizek’s mic to Owen’s! 😂
"No"
Video ends.
Couldn't click fast enough.
PURE IDEOLOGY! SO ON AND SO ON! YOU KNOW?
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
Yes. Thank you. Chomsky at the end too :-)
Zizek a perfect Ancient Greek-temperament scholar lol
Not sure I’d have an opinion if I didn’t read Slavoj’s tomes.
Intellectual heavyweight Slavoj Zizek !!
Loved this man, so intelligent! Thank you Owen
thx to interwiew owen
I've been watching for 44:20. What it means to go for the impossible: that which is totally possible but falls outside the predominant narrative.
I can't believe he actually gave the middle finger at the webcam!
Žižek and the internet make an explosive combination, but despite the memes he always has something interesting to say.
The ultimate crossover
"Could covid destroy capitalism?" We live in hope-we live in hope.
It's already destroyed. It's more now we see it.
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
@@1j9hd97 100% true.
@@1j9hd97 CCP want to cripple not only western but the rest of the world economies. For the sake of Chinese supremacy.
@@1j9hd97 nonsense
His answer ending at 36:04 is really amazing. The reason I always click on these kinds of videos.
Zizek is able to articulate his position like no one else can ;-)
Love Owen, hate his comments section.
RUclips comment sections are in general a bit of a cesspit. Almost as bad as Twitter
"People secretly enjoy panic."
"We want a different end to the world." -- Chile
John Berger quoted similar things from the pre-Civil War Spanish anarchists in his book on Picasso.
Tout cela me donne des frissons.
I remember listening to the interview 3 years ago when it came out. It does feel like a long time ago.
Owen, you should interview the philosopher Byung Chul Han!
Slavoj and Owen...and so on.
More power to you Owen.
Transitioning to a Noam Chomsky plug after watching Zizek for an hour was far too jarring an experience for my weary brain to handle lol! Great video :)
Chomsky now has not kept up and gets very yesterday after Zizek
probably u re the best at the moment,music t
2 my ear.... just was missing troling
thank u 4 existing
Never clicked on a video so fast!
Very pog
Subbed after this.
Fun outro given the little feud Chomsky and Zizek have
What's their feud about?
@@inghell Chomsky criticizes Zizek for being an obscurantist. A lot of jargon without real world application. Zizek criticized Chomsky for being an empiricist without a theory
@@ltrskltr Sounds like a battle of semantics and egos, which is a real shame.
WHAT ELSE ONE CAN SAY BUT PERFECT, AS EXPECTED
I would have liked to have heard his vision for V for Vendetta pt 2
Absolutely spot on
interesting and insightful
How the hell has Owen been able to interview so many big names?
Corona virus is a bio weapon released by the CCP from their Wuhan lab. (not a man made virus or genetically engineered). China had already discovered a vaccine for it. That's how they got it under perfect control, their aim is to cripple western economies which they have successfully done. The WHO are corrupted by Chinese officials and funding. Their "investigation" relies entirly on info and samples provided by CCP officials
There are quite a lot of privately owned firms in Cuba???
“Could covid destroy capitalism” I certainly hope so time and space no longer monopolized people will be free to build their own lives the people have been used and made dependent it’s pathetic.
Listen without prejudice
Slavoj has the leftistest of leftist sound quality right on brand
Zizek is based
Legend!!
Trump (Drumpf) is the first postmodern American president. "The postmodern epoch has consumed the American Right" - Matt McManus on postmodern conservatism
Great interview!
I notice that a lot of philosophers and politicians, when asked to comment on current affairs, kind of repeat the same things and not in a random order, but in a very well structured way with even the same jokes and examples that lead to a conclusion. It looks like their speach follows a narrative they have constructed and use as a base. Does anybody know if this method/way of evaluating and talking about current afairs has a specific scientific name? Is it some kind of process jurnalists or philosophers follow or just a random thing I noticed?
Drink every time Žižek says 'so on'
when u have to Zoom ur grandad because he's going loopy in lockdown
Partly related, but I want everyone to know there's a cool band called You Thant, who sampled Slavoj on their single "Freedom Hurts" they put out last year, and I encourage everyone to go listen to it :D
Zizek suggests us to hold on to our radical leftism to overcome the radical right. I was hoping him to be more radical than this. Zizek seems to lose his edge and his imagination. I would like to remind him his own words : “Utopia is not kind of a free imagination. Utopia is a matter of inner most urgency, you are forced to imagine it, it is the only way out, and this is what we need today.”
Now I know where the inspiration for Rowley Birkin QC comes from.
Slavoj "wipe nose, pull t-shirt" Zizek is in effect! Nice...
Damn, Gandalf Chomsky hit me out of nowhere btw
Ask Slavoj what he thinks of political correctness.
Pretty sure that’s been covered extensively in other platforms.
@@mechasartre3694 It has. Just wondering what Owen would say in response to it.
"The worst kind of authoritarianism" is what I recall him saying
It’s important not to only take the part of his arguments that you like.
@@mechasartre3694 Very true. I wish that others did that consistently.
Video chaptering Slavoj Zizek challenge
Enjoyed it, please get Michael Moore on 🤞
trying!
@@OwenJonesTalks glad to hear!
And so on and so forth
I want more than anything to be able to hear Zizek and understand what he says clearly but he loses me often. He's probably the single popular left wing thinker that I struggle with. Personal failing most likely, so I'll persist!
I kno. Once you spend time with him he gets easier but not very. When you read him he is sovery clear.
Between these two leftists one almost feels that the world is better off. If only people would listen to minds like this and think about what's being said.
0:15 The plural of 'dominatrix' is 'dominatrices'. (Latin 3rd Decl. dominatrix, -tricis; feminine. of 'dominator', from 'domus', lord, master).
Please Žižek, can you get a decent microphone
56:26 YES (just under one minute)
The new right poses the ONLY real threat of violence. They have already overstepped legal bounds.
This is just a note for myself; please, no one else read this. 58:15
Why is Owen Jones interviewing his cleaner
Nothing can destroy capitalism :)
Audibly gasped at this
@owenjones84 I would like to offer a suggestion for a conversation with George Monbiot, on the Interconnectedness of the mercantilism of commodities, the commodification of Life, Capitalism and The Feeling of Lack driving the worsening of Holistic Health, Mental Health and Well Being and the disconnect from Nature. thank you for creating these opportunities promoting the diversification to access Insightful conversations
spot on with Gandhi there
Owen, please do David Harvey next!
The ghost of linguistics past at 59:07
Short answer:no
Long answer : n o