I didn't even know hydraulic starters were a thing. No need for batteries or an air supply! Just set the rig somewhere, forget about it for a couple years, come back, pump it up and get right back to work!
I know those hydraulic starters too well, they where a PITA on deck engines on our barges during the winter months. The normal stand by pressure on those systems was 3000 PSI. I got a chuckle when early on in the video when you said give it a few pump and start it. :) Well, a whole heck of a lot of pumps later and you are at 3000 psi, and in the winter months that usually wasn't enough to get a cold 71 started, so more pumping. We ended up (1) switching to a Bosch hydraulic starting system which was more reliable, (2) tying all the engines together to give more cranking volume with all of them returning to a common reservoir, and (3) installing an electric hydraulic pump down below. Couldn't use electric starters due to sparks in the gasoline cargo block. and the company didn't want to go with the cost of a whole new air start system from scratch. Although later on we did talk the company into replacing the dreaded hydraulic start system on one barge with 3 12V71 cargo pump engines with air starters. PS, do you have the missing parts from the pump somewhere? PPS. The accumulators should be precharged to 1500 PSI. Easiest way to verify that is the hydraulic pressure should pump up to 1500 quickly, then it takes forever beyond that as you are actually moving the pistons and compressing the nitrogen gas. PPPS. The device @1:16:00 is the high temperature valve. As long as there is cooling water going through that sensor, it keeps the oil valve cool, supplying oil pressure to the pressure diaphragm keeping the emergency shut down butterfly valve open. On cooling failure the hot exhaust gasses opens the dump valve in it and drops the oil pressure to the emergency shutdown The device @1:17:15 is the overspeed dump valve, it dumps the pressure to the shutdown on overspeed.
Great comment Bill thank you! I don't have any of the missing pieces (assuming you mean for connections). The pre- charge at 1500 explains a lot thank you!
The mechanism in the exhaust is part of the emergency shutdown system, it detects high egt temperatures, and will trip the intake butterfly if temperatures get too high, and the coolant lines keep the oil from coking, also once the engine starts, push that chrome t handle in, its just to keep the butterfly open until the engine builds oil pressure. I had a similar system on my deere 440icd crawler with the 2-53 Detroit
And it recharges itself that's just so cool man shout out to u stroker u know your onions bro, i mean to fault find and get it running after so long and it runs so well 🤷🏻♂️😂 👍🏻
Camera guy here....get a Sony. Pick one that fits your budget, but Sony still allows third party lenses which are excellent quality and relatively cheap. Much cheaper than Canon
Nice find Wayne! Navy used pumps like those to refloat ships where the below deck areas were flooded hence the name dewatering pump. Hyd start meant no battery or charging system to be a source of ignition around spilled fuels etc.. I think your plans for growing the channel by investing in video equipment and items like the Navy pump to work on are a great plan. Hope to meet you in person sometime, I'm a fellow New Yorker hailing from the Elmira area. Keep up the good work!
Also that looks like marine salvage pump, high volume low pressure and not uncommon for the military to store away low hour units. Keep this super bloody interesting content up and you'll be killing this utube thing. You explain what's what well, that's good knowledge. Thanks for putting in the time and effort.
Barnes pumps had contract with US Navy to build those units for combat fleet salvage--sinking ships--the Navy gave the pumps to rural fire districts for fire suppression outside of municipal water lines--also forest land burns unit I have is 3-53 with hydraulic starter labeled 10 inch discharge--your 2-53 likely pushes water thru 8 inch discharge build year for mine--1974
You are totally right about it being designed to be put and left somewhere or brought and used as a stand alone unit. It needs nothing except fuel to run even if left for a long time. Batteries are the biggest problem with leaving something out somewhere and this doesn't require any!
Another Great Piece of Detroit Diesel History Saved. 66 Hours, that is about as original as it gets. What a time capsule from 1966. I have seen air starter, not many hydraulic starters in Semi Trucks or Farm Equipment. Good luck with the Video Equipment. Thanks for the videos.
Not gonna lie...came for the trucks and stayed for...well, everything. Met you down at macungie this summer when you had the next pete in tow. You make great videos that are aren't some over produced attempt by a wanna be movie producer. They are what most of us wish we had more time to do..work on cool projects. Love old trucks, but will happily watch whatever you feel like working on.
That damned air filter is only a few months younger than my old ass! And it's a Donaldson. That's cool as hell. I never thought to take a flashlight to an air filter - good idea!
Home for obsolete and one off toys! Would this be a mil. spec unit? The independent start anytime seems like something the military would use. Nice catch! Go Wayne!
Device in the exhaust is an overtemp shut down monitoring exhaust temp and coolant temp, using oil pressure as the force (or lack of) to trip the door in the blower. I think!
Wayne, what a blast from the past, and as a former military guy, it does not surprise me if the guy that bought it for his operation, might have bout it with even less hours than when you bought it. Many pieces of equipment like that, the military had ready in storage for many years, and never used, until some big disaster or major war came about. It’s another Cold War relic, and it is quite nice a piece of equipment. Too bad you can’t find the inlet and outlet tubes that are bolted on to the pump. You should also ha some water or rv antifreeze in the pump when operating or it could ruin the pump seals. Take care, and that was a great video.
This is the score of the year. It's a shame it happened so early in the year now you're going to have to struggle the rest of the year trying to best yourself! Sadly you left yourself at the bottom of a very big hill in trying to find a bigger better score. In addition I really like your Caddy. I used to live about 100 miles from you, I once lived in Walton New York. Best regards Bob from Virginia USA
That thing in the exhaust is probably an exhaust overtemp shutdown.... kinda like a thermocouple, but it kills the air baffle if it runs out of coolant or catches a rock or something and starts overloading the engine.
Wayne-------That was a good challenge with all the safety shut down stuff , normally used on industrial applications only. But the Gateway fleet spec for shutdown systems on all brands of engines exposed me to that setup on about 10 GMC Crackerboxes in the early '60s. The instructions for washing the dry air cleaner elements was also something we tried at Gateway for a while to reduce air cleaner maintenance cost, even though we had dial type restriction guages on the truck, so changed by restriction. Not by appearance or a set time interval . Problem with washing is you end up with dirty washing solution on both sides of the paper, so you end up sucking dirt in your intake at one time.........or another . Secondly, after drying and inspecting the paper with the light, you got a diminishing interval between max restriction readings, so it was discontinued . Those 2-53s are neat engines, like you I never had one until fall of 2021 , when I acquired a Hobart 300 amp DC welder. I just installed a measured shot ether kit , so it'll start at any temp, as I'm ready to part with it now. I visualize you getting some hose connections and suction hose from your fire dept and do a pump test in the Mohawk .
This is the first video I've ever watched from you. Stumbled down a rabbit hole and found your channel lastnight. So far love the video. Will be going and watching your older stuff.
Never thought I’d care so much about a .. whatever kinda pump that is… running! Came for the trucks, still here for all the other ol 2 stroke junk! 66 hours! She’s a honey!
I have two of the same pumps built in October 1966 with the original air filter. They both have less than 300 hours and I use them for my Gold Mine one of them just blew up rebuilding it now thought it was cool to see another one. That looks just like it
Mine had the original oil filter and everything. It was crazy one had five hours on it. The other one had 300 but the pump coupling was bad if you look at the name plate on the back of the water pump, it’ll tell you the month and the year it was made
Damnit Wayno! This has got to be the coolest thing I've ever seen! Fuckin Sick! I thought the 6V92 water pump was awesome. The 1966 air filter floored me. Well, and the hydraulic start 🍻
Nice rig. Dirt literally as old as Moses on the label of that 66 air cleaner. Guaranteed to pump water, smeggy, smegma, Smegus and the very rare but oh so potent MUNG [all words to add to the Shmoo list of appropriate epithets]. 🙂
I didn't even know hydraulic starters were a thing. No need for batteries or an air supply! Just set the rig somewhere, forget about it for a couple years, come back, pump it up and get right back to work!
I know those hydraulic starters too well, they where a PITA on deck engines on our barges during the winter months. The normal stand by pressure on those systems was 3000 PSI. I got a chuckle when early on in the video when you said give it a few pump and start it. :) Well, a whole heck of a lot of pumps later and you are at 3000 psi, and in the winter months that usually wasn't enough to get a cold 71 started, so more pumping. We ended up (1) switching to a Bosch hydraulic starting system which was more reliable, (2) tying all the engines together to give more cranking volume with all of them returning to a common reservoir, and (3) installing an electric hydraulic pump down below. Couldn't use electric starters due to sparks in the gasoline cargo block. and the company didn't want to go with the cost of a whole new air start system from scratch. Although later on we did talk the company into replacing the dreaded hydraulic start system on one barge with 3 12V71 cargo pump engines with air starters. PS, do you have the missing parts from the pump somewhere? PPS. The accumulators should be precharged to 1500 PSI. Easiest way to verify that is the hydraulic pressure should pump up to 1500 quickly, then it takes forever beyond that as you are actually moving the pistons and compressing the nitrogen gas. PPPS. The device @1:16:00 is the high temperature valve. As long as there is cooling water going through that sensor, it keeps the oil valve cool, supplying oil pressure to the pressure diaphragm keeping the emergency shut down butterfly valve open. On cooling failure the hot exhaust gasses opens the dump valve in it and drops the oil pressure to the emergency shutdown The device @1:17:15 is the overspeed dump valve, it dumps the pressure to the shutdown on overspeed.
Great comment Bill thank you! I don't have any of the missing pieces (assuming you mean for connections). The pre- charge at 1500 explains a lot thank you!
Even a high EGT could shut it down. Fuckin Cool!
The mechanism in the exhaust is part of the emergency shutdown system, it detects high egt temperatures, and will trip the intake butterfly if temperatures get too high, and the coolant lines keep the oil from coking, also once the engine starts, push that chrome t handle in, its just to keep the butterfly open until the engine builds oil pressure. I had a similar system on my deere 440icd crawler with the 2-53 Detroit
I always thought air starters were the coolest thing ever, now you're blowing my mind
These are my new favorite
And it recharges itself that's just so cool man shout out to u stroker u know your onions bro, i mean to fault find and get it running after so long and it runs so well 🤷🏻♂️😂 👍🏻
@@anthonygibbo1881 thanks man!
Wayne be so cool to see it pump water
Spring projekt suggestion: Make it move some water. Love your videos.
Ya' damn walnut! LMFAO 🤣🤣 I'd love to see you working on that Caddyhack some day soon.
Man my car videos do so poorly on here i refuse to post anything on the caddy. 😢
I'm sorry, man. That sucks.
At first I was like "nah man this thing has 10066 hours or the meter failed long ago 😂" Well, 1966 pump with a 1966 filter and 66 hours on it lol
Same here!!!
Lotta six's ... mark of the beast ? Should the pump get named " the beast " ? lol
Thanks!
I’d love to see this thing pump water…. Maybe this summer you can find a pond or when fall comes use it to winterize your pool if you have one.
Me too! I'll drain the whole lake!
Camera guy here....get a Sony. Pick one that fits your budget, but Sony still allows third party lenses which are excellent quality and relatively cheap. Much cheaper than Canon
I don't know shit about engines but watched the entire thing because of how much fun it is to watch you having fun :)
Thanks!!! ♥️
Wow, what an awesome piece of equipment! Runs like a sewing machine, never saw a hydraulic starter before - so cool. Excellent video, brother.
Thanks!
I think it would be cool to see it pump water.
I think so too!
❤going through all the videos again and I think this one is one of my favorites! Awesomeness uncle Wayne
Thanks man. I really feel like this one never got the attention it deserved. It's a really cool unit.
@@Ol2Stroker hey do you still have it? If so you should bring it to Ballston spa this year!
@@scottmoodysr9449 I definitely still have it, that ones not going anywhere!
WOOW! 66 hours, and the air filter from 1966, !!! bunch of sixes there bub!
Kinda wild ain't it
Nice find Wayne! Navy used pumps like those to refloat ships where the below deck areas were flooded hence the name dewatering pump. Hyd start meant no battery or charging system to be a source of ignition around spilled fuels etc.. I think your plans for growing the channel by investing in video equipment and items like the Navy pump to work on are a great plan. Hope to meet you in person sometime, I'm a fellow New Yorker hailing from the Elmira area. Keep up the good work!
I saw them ESSM stencil... and thought salvage gear (as a diver).
actually "yellow gear" :)
Also that looks like marine salvage pump, high volume low pressure and not uncommon for the military to store away low hour units. Keep this super bloody interesting content up and you'll be killing this utube thing. You explain what's what well, that's good knowledge. Thanks for putting in the time and effort.
Thanks! I wish I could stumble on more of this stuff
Check out a spring starter
Barnes pumps had contract with US Navy to build those units for combat fleet salvage--sinking ships--the Navy gave the pumps to rural fire districts for fire suppression outside of municipal water lines--also forest land burns
unit I have is 3-53 with hydraulic starter labeled 10 inch discharge--your 2-53 likely pushes water thru 8 inch discharge
build year for mine--1974
That's awesome man!!!! Thanks for the info.
Very cool, Wayne😮
You are totally right about it being designed to be put and left somewhere or brought and used as a stand alone unit. It needs nothing except fuel to run even if left for a long time. Batteries are the biggest problem with leaving something out somewhere and this doesn't require any!
I'm more accustomed to air starters.
Never knew that hydraulic starters existed. What an awesome running engine. Great find.
Thank you for the A-Team reference
So excited to finally use that
Great find. I'm 7 days older than your pump.😁
Huge fan of the channel, I’ve been watching for around 2-3 years. The old v12 is in a scraper truck
Good dammit Uncle Wayno.....I love seeing YOU get excited!!! really..really.
Lol I was pumped 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another Great Piece of Detroit Diesel History Saved. 66 Hours, that is about as original as it gets. What a time capsule from 1966. I have seen air starter, not many hydraulic starters in Semi Trucks or Farm Equipment. Good luck with the Video Equipment. Thanks for the videos.
Hey Wayne good to see you again. Hope you keep warm buddy see you soon
Thanks, you too!
Once he tasted the oil I figured I should subscribe. He needs all the help he can get
🤣🤣🤣 that's the truth lol. But it works!
@@Ol2Stroker 👍
Nice effin work on that one, bud!!! So stoked that you got it running! Nothing like the sound of a good ole 2 stroke.
Me too I love that little engine
66hrs That Motors brand New.. Awesome score!
Hell yea this thing is awesome!!
Wow what a time capsule!!!!!!
Hell yea!!
That is a cool old piece of equipment! I too would love to see this thing move water. Who knows it may come in handy in an emergency in the future.
Those are my thoughts too! In the summer we'll get it pumping!!
Man, we need to see this thing pump water now!
I completely agree
Man, who knew a water pump could be so cool
pump seals no like dry run? u the man wayne happy new year
Tough shit for the seals lol Happy New Year!
Pumped for a new episode of working on junk. I was just gonna go to bed then noticed the new post now im opening another bottle of gin 😂😂😂
That's the spirit!!
Not gonna lie...came for the trucks and stayed for...well, everything. Met you down at macungie this summer when you had the next pete in tow. You make great videos that are aren't some over produced attempt by a wanna be movie producer. They are what most of us wish we had more time to do..work on cool projects. Love old trucks, but will happily watch whatever you feel like working on.
Thanks man. I really appreciate that.
That starter is like your new workout plan 💪 lol
Just found your channel and I'm hooked. Sound of those ol Jimmy's makes me happy.
And the tachometer works!
That damned air filter is only a few months younger than my old ass! And it's a Donaldson. That's cool as hell.
I never thought to take a flashlight to an air filter - good idea!
I didn't realize they had dry filters back then typically everything is oil bath except the big goofy farrs
That's mint! Great video! Subscribed 👍❤️💛💚 I like keeping stuff instead of selling also
Thanks man!
Nice junk today! Seen air starters before but never a hydraulic one, very cool, no need for a battery and doesn’t need to hold air pressure 👍
Love it!
Not a Diesel dude but I love anything that moves. Greatly enjoy your channel!
Thanks 🤟🤟
Super cool that it is 100% mechanical-no battery needed. Awesome piece!
One he'll of a way to water the garden great video there keep up the great work
I used to work on a couple of Lister generators that had a very similar mechanical shutdown for over temp and low oil pressure.
Hydraulic starter, how cool is that, sings like it is brand new.
Excited to see the new tech this year! So proud of you, you're killing it
Hell yea knew you could do it Lmmfao
Sounds great. Appreciate you appreciating us your a HELLA good ass guy Wayno
Super cool. Thing is like a completely mechanical emergency set-up salvage pump. Love it! Thanks for saving it!
Hydraulic starter so cool man.
My favorite
Nerdgasom.....thats a new one hope i spelled it right
Love the videos and commentary
Squirrel....
Home for obsolete and one off toys! Would this be a mil. spec unit? The independent start anytime seems like something the military would use. Nice catch! Go Wayne!
Indeed. Believe it was Navy
That's a sweet unit
Hell yeah man one man’s scrap is another man’s treasure mark that one down in the books keep up working on that old iron buddy
Absolutely! Thanks man!
U got a great channel an content and u do awesome job responding to people's comments. Have a good week sir.
Thanks man I really try!
The engineering that went into designing that setup is awesome and what modern day engineers should learn from! Great video👍🏻
Totally!!!
It's so simple yet it has every possible disastrous scenarios covered!
Way cool. New house gen?
Old ways better . Cool piece of equipment.
The audio is good, love the channel, and watch when I can... I'm also a Truck Nerd, not a computer nerd...
Fantastic content yet again Wayne
Love the video already and I’m not finished yet!
Hey! I'm a 12/66 model too! I have more hours on me and I need rebuilt though...
Watched most on TV but had to fire up the Surround Sound once you got er running!
Device in the exhaust is an overtemp shut down monitoring exhaust temp and coolant temp, using oil pressure as the force (or lack of) to trip the door in the blower. I think!
I think I was as stoked as you were when she fired up😂
That is killer !!!!
Wayne, what a blast from the past, and as a former military guy, it does not surprise me if the guy that bought it for his operation, might have bout it with even less hours than when you bought it. Many pieces of equipment like that, the military had ready in storage for many years, and never used, until some big disaster or major war came about. It’s another Cold War relic, and it is quite nice a piece of equipment. Too bad you can’t find the inlet and outlet tubes that are bolted on to the pump. You should also ha some water or rv antifreeze in the pump when operating or it could ruin the pump seals. Take care, and that was a great video.
Thanks man i will get some antifreeze in there next time!
So cool to see that old girl run - love your content Wayne
Thanks man!
This is the score of the year. It's a shame it happened so early in the year now you're going to have to struggle the rest of the year trying to best yourself! Sadly you left yourself at the bottom of a very big hill in trying to find a bigger better score. In addition I really like your Caddy. I used to live about 100 miles from you, I once lived in Walton New York. Best regards Bob from Virginia USA
I agree Bob thanks! Don't think I've ever been to Walton NY
Can honestly say I have never seen a hydraulic starter, that’s mint!
Love your videos!!!!
Thanks bro hope you and the wife are doing well 🤟🤟
btw the DJI audio is nice because it's so consistent. yeah the gopro looks better, but the audio is more important.
Thanks man
Got to love it.good job😊
Great job, Wayne! Maybe you should consider installing a hose for extracting exhaust gases in your shop 😉
Probably not a terrible idea
Video is good the mike is a big plus like to see this thing action
Awesome find sound like new
Congratulations Wayne.
Great video. Would love to see it pump someday,
That thing in the exhaust is probably an exhaust overtemp shutdown.... kinda like a thermocouple, but it kills the air baffle if it runs out of coolant or catches a rock or something and starts overloading the engine.
Oh... typed this before I saw your description at the end.
Wayne-------That was a good challenge with all the safety shut down stuff , normally used on industrial applications only. But the Gateway fleet spec for shutdown systems on all brands of engines exposed me to that setup on about 10 GMC Crackerboxes in the early '60s. The instructions for washing the dry air cleaner elements was also something we tried at Gateway for a while to reduce air cleaner maintenance cost, even though we had dial type restriction guages on the truck, so changed by restriction. Not by appearance or a set time interval . Problem with washing is you end up with dirty washing solution on both sides of the paper, so you end up sucking dirt in your intake at one time.........or another . Secondly, after drying and inspecting the paper with the light, you got a diminishing interval between max restriction readings, so it was discontinued . Those 2-53s are neat engines, like you I never had one until fall of 2021 , when I acquired a Hobart 300 amp DC welder. I just installed a measured shot ether kit , so it'll start at any temp, as I'm ready to part with it now. I visualize you getting some hose connections and suction hose from your fire dept and do a pump test in the Mohawk .
This is the first video I've ever watched from you. Stumbled down a rabbit hole and found your channel lastnight. So far love the video. Will be going and watching your older stuff.
RUclips really does a great job at hiding my channel. Glad you found me, hopefully you like the rest of what's here. 🤟🤟
Well done Wayne you got it running !!!!!!!!
Hell yea
videos like this are so cool you deserve way more then 40k subs my friend
Wayne your the man your the Detroit goo roo keep up the awsome content man big 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Sound is really clear and crisp with the microphone you are using in this video with the new camera!
Kicking ass and taking names Bro Looks good Sounds good !!! New Host is my only suggestion ??? LOL na you rock
Never thought I’d care so much about a .. whatever kinda pump that is… running! Came for the trucks, still here for all the other ol 2 stroke junk! 66 hours! She’s a honey!
I dunno why but I love the stupid thing.
@@Ol2Stroker what’s not to love? It’s a practically brand new, 57 year ol 2 stroker! With a frickin hydraulic starter!
@@Analog359 my sentiments exactly
Best video yet
I have two of the same pumps built in October 1966 with the original air filter. They both have less than 300 hours and I use them for my Gold Mine one of them just blew up rebuilding it now thought it was cool to see another one. That looks just like it
That's so friggin cool!!! I figured they'd be perfect for up there! 🤟🤟🤟
Mine had the original oil filter and everything. It was crazy one had five hours on it. The other one had 300 but the pump coupling was bad if you look at the name plate on the back of the water pump, it’ll tell you the month and the year it was made
She’ll just sit there and run at three grand for 12 hours not even think twice and it sounds so sweet, echoing off the ponds
@@alaskamulletminer5168 yea mine is 12/66. What happened to the pump coupling?
@@alaskamulletminer5168 Detroit's are good for that! It makes me happy you're using them!
Another success!!!!! Hell yeah!!! Thanks!
I’m going with DJI too, I have the DJI drones, and the sound is sounding great 👍🏽
The mic maybe, but that osmo action 3 was absolute trash
Love seeing old iron brought back to life. Oh and 1966 is not OLD 😉🤣
Damnit Wayno! This has got to be the coolest thing I've ever seen! Fuckin Sick! I thought the 6V92 water pump was awesome. The 1966 air filter floored me. Well, and the hydraulic start 🍻
That's a really cool little unit
You’re right Wayne, we are…
pumped about it
Such a cool bit of kit Wonder if that wierd valve Jobby in the exhaust is a overheat/lowoil automatic shut off
You should have a couple of gallons of water in the bottom of the pump so that you don’t burn out the seal
Nice rig. Dirt literally as old as Moses on the label of that 66 air cleaner. Guaranteed to pump water, smeggy, smegma, Smegus and the very rare but oh so potent MUNG [all words to add to the Shmoo list of appropriate epithets]. 🙂
I can't wait to try and pump with it