Dune Part Two - Lady Margot Fenring reports to the Bene Gesserit
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
- Lady Margot Fenring reporting to Princess Irulan and Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam on Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen scene
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This goes to show that the the Bene Gesserit are the real power in the Imperium.
Well, not quite. The Bene Gesserit depend upon the spice -- as do the Spacing Guild and their Steersmen -- so whoever controls the spice is the true power in the Imperium, as Paul points out when he tells Emperor Shaddam that he has the power to destroy the spice (destroying civilization as they know it).
The Bene Gesserit and the spice are the true powers in the Imperium
the Bene Gesserit are so cool
the bene tleilaux , bene gesserit, the mentats and the space guild are the powers, the most powerful at this point is history is very difficult to say; i think the spicy melange would be the great power
Spacing Guild as well
The filming location is the meditating pavilion in the Brion Tomb, designed by the architect Carlo Scarpa. This is near Treviso, Italy. I’ve stood in that exact same spot where the BG were having their conversation.
damnit I was so close to Italy, and didn't go there. Also was about to go to Wadi Rum, Jordan but it became unsafe a few months ago
Did you also talk plans about conspiracy while you were in there? While hearing the creepy chanting of witches? Lol jk jk
@@grantponciano9386 😂 👍
@@pac1fic055 😂 So yes
I was the BG extra sitting in that exact spot 😅
For all their power, even they didn't benefit from what they set into motion. The true Kwisatz Haderach was beyond anyone's control.
Ignorant to their own actions consequences if even one thing slipped out of their direct control.
Lady Jessica and Paul were playing with the battle pass already complete by the time Reverand Gais finally caught on.
At least with Paul they had hope of scheming their way to victory in spite of him. Not so much the next KH.
As Princess Leia quite rightly points out to Grand Moff Tarkin in "Star Wars"...the more you tighten your grip, the less control you (ironically and paradoxically) often end up being able to impose because Nature is simply not that consistent or malleable or predictable or uniform.
@@OreadNYCIsn't Princess Leia the Star Wars counterpart to Princess Irulan?
@JscottSears No, not really. While it's true that there are a few superficial similarities between Irulan and Leia, they're quite different when you dig deeper. For ine thing, Irulan is very much a pragmatist by nature while Leia is more of an idealist. When Irulan agrees to marry Paul, it's not because she believes in Paul's crusade. The book offers no evidence that Irulan ever questioned or regretted her father's attempt to exterminate House Atreides -- indeed, Irulan doesn't even appear as a character in the first book until the end (apart from the chapter headings which quote from her writings as a historian). Irulan only marries Paul in order to stop him from destroying civilization as they know it by destroying the spice. She does not love him, nor he her, and their marriage is purely political. I also doubt very much that Leia would have ever attempted to plot against her own husband and harm her husband's lover partly for her own benefit as Irulan does in the second book "Dune Messiah." It's not like Leia to be so self-serving and underhanded.
Man wish these scenes with BG were longer.
every scene of political intrigue with the Bene Gesserit were SO good
We'd need it to be a tv series for that. Though that would in turn reduce the production value. I know Villenueve hates extended cuts, but if there's to be only one instance he does, then the Dune trilogy should be that.
@@Rauruatreides we’re getting a series on hbo about the origins of the Bene Gesserit! it’s called “Dune: Prophecy”
@@Tavi78for real?
@@thegrunbeld6876It's based on one of brian herbert's books
0:26 “The blood line is secured”
Imagine if he was infertile.
... he sticks it in the box, didn’t he
😭
Like a flesh light 😂
Poor Lady Fenring! It doesn't seem very likely that she enjoyed the experience much -- but then again, that wasn't her objective.
😂😂😂
@@OreadNYC She clearly did lmao.
The Reverend Mother’s delivery of “I’m a motherly figure” always makes me laugh for some reason. A lot of her dry delivery does.
She is lady jessicas mother & pauls grandmother.
The BG probably got close to their Kwizach Haderach multiple times in the millennia before the events of Dune. Presumably, any families approaching this genetic structure would begin to defy the BG, who would, in turn, destroy their line. Spice is everywhere in the Imperium; a potential KH or pre-KH could use spice and be urged to defy the BG in favor of the golden path
spice in only on arrakis
@@wowwow3673 Those who produce spice sell it en masse to the rich population of the Imperium. So the substance is all throughout the known universe; wherever the Spacing Guild goes, there must be spice
They did get close.
In the books, Lady Fenring’s husband, Count Hasimir Fenring is described by Baron Harkonnen as ‘a killer with the manners of a rabbit...the most dangerous kind’ and by Princess Irulan as the Emperor’s ‘one and only real friend’ and ‘one of the deadliest fighters in the Imperium.’ As Shaddam’s chief councillor, he’s also known as the ‘Emperor’s errand boy’, deployed to sort out those little problems that the Emperor would prefer to disappear.
However, when Paul meets him for the first time, he realises with great surprise that firstly, he’d never seen the Count before in ANY of his prescient visions, the reason being, secondly, that the Count was an ‘almost’ Kwisatz Haderach but was crippled by a flaw in the genetic pattern that rendered him a eunuch, his talents concentrated instead into ‘furtiveness and inner seclusion’. It was a shame he wasn’t in the film (as far as I’m aware) as Paul felt the first feeling of brotherhood with someone almost like him. The Count’s understanding of this unspoken recognition results in his turning down the Emperor’s order to kill Paul after Paul had just killed Feyd-Rautha.
You have to feel sorry for the Count as he has to watch his Bene Gesserit wife, Lady Margot, trot off with men like Feyd so that she can lie down and take one for the Sisterhood, all to preserve the bloodline for a Kwisatz Haderach that they hope to control.
@@davidpope3943his character was mashed with Feyd Rathua consider Paul couldn’t see Feyd until face to face
@@luiousy7329why
Feyd is 16 IIRC? Manipulating a 16 year old is markedly more do-able than controlling an older more experienced person. And personalities shift in how they express themselves. Feyd is also, as they note, a highly intelligent sociopath. Feyd in control of Arrakis is not a good long term plan, whatever levers they've got on him at age 16.
Film and show adaptations tend to age-up their book counterparts. Daenerys in the ASOIAF books is 13 at the start, but 18 in the Game of Thrones show. I imagine Feyd and Paul are young adults, not teenagers, in the films.
Why
Feyd whas 17. And in the book is a time skip. He is 20 when his uncle plans to give him Arrakis. And he also plans to give it more time until Feyd is ready. So in the book it makes more sense
@@6Kubik Yes - thanks for the information :)
In the book Feyd did not kill his mother. Imho it was unnecessary to make Feyd look even more evil and when I saw the movie it sounded like they wanted to imply some sexual abuse from mother to son. Poor Feyd....as if his uncle wasn't enough pedophilia in the family .😂
she is so happy to be pregernant
Wonder what her husbands gonna think?
Her husband is impotent@@anthonylewis6265
@@anthonylewis6265 He knew what he married
@@anthonylewis6265 wait, what? Husband? Who's Lady Margot's husband?
@@nicolasdiez7688Count Hasimir Fenring, known as the Emperor’s “only close friend”. In the book he was there with Margot at the Giedi Prime gladiator games to assess Feyd’s worthiness as the Harkonnen heir on the Emperor’s behalf, and in fact the only scene in the book where we are made aware of the whole Bene Gesserit securing the bloodline thing is when he and Margot brought it up in a conversation, so yeah he has been in the know already
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Every online predator ever
Is anyone gonna point out she’s married?
What? Married? With who?
That’s not the point though. The BG are loyal to their mission and to their order first and foremost.
@@nicolasdiez7688and with Count Hasimir Fenring. He didn’t make it in the cut for Dune pt 2.
With Count Fenring cut from the film, her marital status is irrelevant. In the books, she completed her mission with her husband's knowledge and permission.
The Bene Gesserit are highly manipulative. 😂
Please Why Manipulative and Can anyone tell me how she avoided the guards and how she knew exactly where he was and why he put a knife under her neck
@@FEYD-RAUTHA.NA-BARON the BG have a form of diplomatic immunity. any guard that touched her would have been killed by her or by their own masters to appease the BG.
@@terran046 Can anyone tell me how she avoided the guards and how she knew exactly where he was and why he put a knife under her neck
@@terran046 Why could no one TOUCH her and how did he go with her since she mentions she has a daughter and I want to undergo the Gom jabbar
@@FEYD-RAUTHA.NA-BARON, maybe she used the voice on them?