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been a fan for years, paycheck clears after midnite, live in a shoe box sized apt, just wanted to say thanks for all you have done. means more to us than you will ever know
Thank You! You rock! Perfect addition to my collection. I have 2 Bluettis, 700wh & 1500wh & 1 Jackery 1000. I've been waiting for a killer deal so I could get another Bluetti for my nightstand. I live in my skoolie, I'm a plug and play girl. Yes, I like Bluetti over Jackery, but don't tell my Jack, he keeps my frig runnng.
Thanks for the review and code. Ordered one up with the pv200 panel, pretty good deal and been wanting one of their 200w portable panels. Informative and entertaining, just the way I like it.
Wow. I was just thinking a couple of days ago I need to find a small solar generator. I have the large 2000 and love it. I now will have a nice portable for so many little things. fans, phones, lights. I'm so excited. I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate all the time you put in to testing, and then share on your Utube channel. Having a utube channel is a job all by itself. Thank you, thank you, thank you! YOU ROCK!
A fantastic review video, as always. I’m so glad you did not shorten it and kept it reasonably long. And I must admit, I watch partially just for the flashlight SOS bit.
I bought one of these using your code. I couldn't be happier with the performance and features. Coupled with the AC200 solar panel , we were able to keep all our power tool batteries charged while building a deck on a remote desert lot. The EB3A never broke below 75%. Thanks for the recommendation.
@@stephonnicholls150 I kept five Ryobi's in constant rotation and had power to spare for the day. Started with pre-charged batteries and only recharged 4 of them once.
Thanks so much for your reviews. I purchased this recently and got it on sale. This is my first power station and I’m extremely pleased with it. I have a Solar setup on my camped Honda Element, I just didn’t have a portable power station. I’ve put this little power station through numerous tests and I’m happy with its performance. This was def a great buy. Thanks again for all of your reviews, they def helped with my purchase decision.
I love this little unit. A very smart battery for sure. The size is extremely handy. Paired with the EB70 and, if you can afford it the AC200, you will be pretty well covered. As always, great review.
Lol, @ "pretty well." In the case of a blackout; I would say that you're safe. You could "tug" the AC200 alone around to power lamps, a mini fridge, or a microwave fairly easily I think with just that unit in and of itself. Even a/c units or heaters. Most people would probably fair well spending a little money on gas for a gas generator anyway, and typically have them. I think this is called overkill. It's almost like having fun choosing which puppy you're gonna set loose for a couple of hours. I'd rather have a gas generator to power a house during an extreme crisis. EB3A or 70 would be amazing for smaller emergencies.
Just unboxed my B/eb3a, thank you for the video, instruction manuals and I don't do well together. This unit goes with the Roadman Camping Trailer pulled by an 1800 VTX with a Champion Trike Kit, it's to run a fridge, lap top computer, charge phones, drone and my beer opener. The B/2000Watt unit is for the toy hauler, thank you for the reviews on these units!
A fantastic review video, as always. I'm so glad you didn't shorten it and kept it reasonably long. And I must admit, I watch partially just for the flashlight SOS bit. 😄
Purchased this unit after watching. Here’s my assessment after using for a few weeks. Pros: fast charging/high watt inverter for size. Although it tends to overheat when using hard and quick charging. Cons: small battery I have a Dometic 55IM fridge. I hooked it up to the BLUETTI and it will not even run for 24 hours, more like 12. This is with the ice maker off, set to 34 and 77 degree ambient temperature. It’s just not enough battery capacity. Back to running off my battle born 100ah battery.
Just pulled the trigger on this. If the Runhood had been a little bit better price, I would not have even watched this video. So glad I waited. Thanks Professor!
Got one on July 7th and hooked to my manual transfer switch to see what it would run. It will work the garage door opener, run the full size refrigerator- probably not much more than an hour, and it will run a 5000 BTU air conditioning unit just under 30 minutes. I parked it at an outlet not covered by the transfer switch where it is a UPS for the cable modem and router (16 watts). It's a cool unit and I'm very happy. Now I can do everything except run the central air conditioner and dry clothes when the power goes out.
@@troyd.521 I just plugged it into the input with a short extension cord. The transfer switch has a three prong 120 volt male input jack. It is a Goal Zero Yeti Home Integration Kit made by Reliance.
@@troyd.521 One of my goals for the year was to have backup power and I couldn't even get an electrician to come out to the house. After a little research I decided on the pro trans 2 four circuit (Goal Zero Yeti) because it looked simple and I could use something small to run it. I purchased it, tried to get more electricians to come out, but everyone was too busy, so I installed it myself and bought a Champion dual fuel inverter. I initially planned to mount it outside and had a waterproof box for it, but I ended up mounting it in the master bedroom and made a pass-through for an extension cord which is now a pass through for mc4 cables. I now have a Bluetti AC200 Max with one B230 battery that I am running the refrigerator and the kitchen outlets off of full-time. As I add more panels and batteries, or change the system, I'll run more stuff.
I have a jackery 1500 and I like it, but I've been wanting to get a smaller unit for smaller events where I don't want to lug around the 30lb jackery...this is perfect! Thanks for the discount sir!
That's why I have 3 smaller units and not a giant 1 shot 1500. A- because I can't afford one lol and B - it just makes sense to have more around camp instead of just 1 big one
Thank you for your time and effort with these reviews. They are professional around all the information required and the testing is thorough and kept to an understandable level. The humour adds another level and keeps them interesting and is a vital part to my mind. Thank you again and every success with your website and future work. Thanks again. Stay safe. Andy.
Having two power delivery ports even at 60 W would’ve made this nearly the perfect powerstation, for me. I personally do not mind the charge plug being on the front of the device along with all the other connections. That way I can plug it in and unplug it with ease and not have to pick around the back I’m leaving a restaurant while using/charging it. I ordered one to use while on the go for work. I can’t hardly wait to receive it.
I am hoping that this is just the first of a new generation of Bluettis that feature the new improved integrated charger (no more brick) and screen. Certainly would love a AC200P with these upgrades.
@@HOBOTECH Question: Does the App notify you in any way if the battery is running low? I want to use this as a replacement for a Dead UPS on a server I have but while the dead UPS had software that told the server to shut down gracefully when the battery runs low, I am not sure this (or any UPS capable So Gen) has that feature. So does it at least let you know if the battery is running low?
Ferrites are actually used to suppress large transient voltage spikes. They won’t do anything for the continuous noise interference you hear on the amplifier. The magnetic field created by the ferrite creates a resistance to large variations in voltages. Ferrites used in conjunction with varistor-based surge protection devices can help protect your home from large voltage spikes caused by EMPs and large (Solar) Coronal Mass Ejections. They can also provide some protection from nearby lightning strikes, although they probably can’t protect from a direct strike (lighting rods are best for direct strikes). This message brought to you by “The Preppers Consortium” 😉
The noise though is not DC continuous, it's just too low in frequency to be helped by snap on ferrites. Snap-ons on good for high frequency blocking. I'm sure they're helping in this instance too, (softening of the sharp transitions) but not enough to be noticeable. Finally, most of this noise is likley conducted and not radiated. A common mode input filter would be a better choice.
I’ve never heard of ferrites for surges, but beads are used to block hf and above frequencies. Hams use them to block computer and power supply noise etc th et work great. The hum he gets from the amp is likely 60hz which would need a huge ferrite bead to work.
@@RickLaBanca Power cables...mostly. That's a signal cable...which is why they had no effect....besides the fact the the cable itself is already shielded. A lot of snake oil when it comes to cables. Even power cables get the treatment...folks claiming better power coming in equals better signal going out...which is non-sense.
@@RickLaBanca Yeah, I know...same difference. Every certified power cable has plenty of shielding if you are using the proper gauge for equipment draw. Audio systems are a marriage of gear and resistance and impedance. That is what you strive to streamline...and then you don't have to worry about the rest of it. More than anything....folks mismatch their gear and or wiring...and then look for solutions that won't help. It's almost always user error...and few like to admit that. If you know how to do it...the only problem is ground loops.
I love my eb3a . But I wanted something even smaller. I bought into the ryobi 150 watt inverter and love it. I also have the ecoflow river pro with the extended battery. These power stations are an addiction with utility. I already had to use them in an outage and if course camping
I have several of Ryobi's 40V tools and got one of their 300W inverter to let me use those batteries when I have a power outage at home. The drawback with them is they don't seem to have a charger that lets you do simultaneous charging and running the inverter for the 40V line. ☹ I took a look at their 1800W inverter, but ended-up buying this unit as it should be able to run anything I would need in a short-term outage.
I really wanted to not like this new offering from Bluetti, mostly because of the Energizer 240 I bought a while back. I think the decision to give this small unit a surprisingly large inverter AND the "power lifting mode", makes this a completely different beast. Throw in crazy fast charging and it's no surprise the battery is only rated to 2,000 cycles, but is that really a problem? Who is going to cycle this every single day for 5.5 years and then complain it didn't last very long? Most commercial UPS products designed for keeping your PC up and running will only last for a very short time, if you have a power outage. Those products usually retail for $75 to as much as you want to spend, but almost all of them come with some kind of lead-acid battery. Something not often discussed with conventional UPS products is that those lead-acid batteries degrade over time, even if you aren't using them. That means when you finally do have a power outage of any length, your PC still crashes before you have time to shut it down, because the battery in the UPS is now basically junk. This Bluetti EB3A would be a far better choice because of the LiFePO4 battery characteristics, so for not a whole lot more money, you get a far better value, if a computer UPS is your primary use case.
Is this generator a true 600 watt or is there a catch to that claim? The average price for solar gens has been $100 per watt. I don't get how they are able to sell this unit for $50 a watt. Sounds too good to be true.
@@Bizzare77777 - I think you're confusing how many watts the inverter can put out with how many watt-hours worth of capacity the battery holds. Watch the whole review and your questions are answered in full.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Went to purchase, had questions about cables so will try tomorrow when they are available. This will be a gift so I want to make sure I have it right. This is a great deal! Thanks
Finally something cheap for non-apocalyptic use! For me having these for phones etc for short power outages is ideal. I watch every review though because I like excellence. You’re right up there with project farm, outstanding reviews always.
Your video was fantastic. It answered all my questions and some I didn't even know that I didn't know! Here is how you can expand the internal battery with an external battery and an AC charger. During the day, when the Bluetti battery is full, plug in the AC charger and charge the big external battery. Albeit at 100W max. Sure you'll lose some efficiency, but when the Sun goes down, unplug the charger, plug the external battery to the DC input. This way, you're using the Bluetti's internal MPPT to charge its internal battery at 200Wh, while taking power from Bluetti's inverter to run the external charger to charge the external battery. Your code doesn't work for Canada? I like to buy one and support you at the same time if I can.
this is awesome. I currently use 15+ apc 1500s. Most only last a year or so, so I'm constantly replacing them(the lead acid batteries). I went as far as buying a bunch of 18650 and putting them in a 7s config with a small bms to see if I could replace the 24v lead acid battery with lion. I was never happy with my nickel spot welding job and so never finished it.
Updated comment after living with it. Worked great in the car running a F40C4TMP 12 Volt Refrigerator 24 Quart (23L). EB3a kept the fridge on without interruption for days, whether car was on or off. It powered the fridge and a fan all night, charged fast once driving resumed. Super useful. Had "overload" issues with the UPS function once home, but after updates were installed via the app, UPS now works perfectly. So super happy with it. As far as the app, before owning this unit felt an app was a gimmick. But now that I have the app, being able to check to be sure everything is running right using phone is awesome. Not a gimmick after all. App connects instantly, and really intuitive. FWIW, velcro-ed an "Apache 550" case from Harbor Freight, $15., to the back of the unit, (sizes match) so all EB3a cables can live in one place, always with the unit. This is working super well.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
I just ordered my second one of these. I like this model because of its Bluetooth connectivity. I own the eb55 that doesn’t have Bluetooth. I like the way you can monitor it from laying in your hammock with a iPhone. I want all of Bluetti models to have Bluetooth in the future
Thanks hobo! Used the code. This will get my feet wet with a solar generator. I was eyeing the eb70s, but at this price point I can play around and figure stuff out.
Hey HOBOTECH I always enjoy watching the videos just wanted to say I’ve wanted a solar generator/power bank forever and even though I plan on buying a bigger one in the future I’m super excited to be getting this little guy thank you for the great reviews.
Having all the ports on the same side as the reason why I just bought one before finishing the video. I use an earlier Bluetti to run a portable fridge in the back of my car, and the fact that the input for the cigarette lighter is on the back and the output for the refrigerator is on the front means that it's impossible for me to figure out how to keep it running on the seat of the car, if you strap it in you'll be bending one cable or the other against the seat or blocking the fan. when I get this one I can put it in my back passenger seat safely and still have access to all of the plugs on the front.
Hobo, you said in the video that the Power Lift mode would allow a 600 watt power draw, although at a lower voltage. I bought one of these and tried it on my 840 watt coffee maker using Power Lift. It only delivered 382 watts at about 78 volts.The same happened with my 850 watt toaster. I wondered what was wrong with my unit, so I refreshed my memory by watching your review over again. Although you SAID @ 9:56 that it would continue to deliver 600 watts, your own test clearly shows it's only delivering 268 watts at 53 volts. Later @ 10:43 you said the 1600 watt heater was running at 600 watts. (wasn't on camera, but I trust your word) Did you misspeak when you said 600 watts or are our units malfunctioning? I can't make toast or brew coffee at this wattage unless I take all day. I was willing to wait 25% longer at 600 watts. This doesn't seem to be of much use just because it will "run" the appliance. Effectively, if you tried to run eight 100 watt light bulbs on Power Lift, you would get 382 watts worth of light. Where is the utility in that? Also, have you noticed your unit only charging from the wall at 120 watts sometimes, even though the charger is in Boost mode? Could this be a heat thing, since it seems to happen when I've run the battery down with a high load?
In my understanding, it just allows it. Runs the higher wattage appliances but at lower power. A better than nothing scenario. My mini unit would just shut off like a fuse. It translates power to work, not actually give impossible amounts of power, but as Hobo says, you’re pushing it to translate power this way.
@@Sparkyspage I think that you my not understand what watts are. 600 watts can be 1 ampere at 600 volts or it can be 600 amperes at 1 volt. Additionally, it can be 300 amperes at 2 volts or it can be 2 amperes at 300 volts or it can be 5. 2 amperes at 115 volts. About 115 volts is what a toaster is usually powered by when it's plugged into a typical wall socket. If that wall socket were to be limited for some reason to a maximum output of 600 watts, a toaster that would like to have 850 watts available to it to work "normally", like my toaster requires, would have to settle for the 600 watt limit that the wall socket was able to provide and it wouldn't get as hot or toast as fast, BUT, it would eventually toast my bread and would be limited to a draw 5.2 amperes to stay within the 600 watt limit that the socket had placed on it, in this hypothetical example. Now imagine that the wall socket is this power pack. It promises to provide 600 watts of power to my toaster that wants 850 watts of power. It can do that by allowing the voltage to stay at 115 volts and just delivering 5.2 amperes or it can drop the voltage to 90 volts and allow the amperage to climb to 6.7 amperes. My toaster is a purely resistive load, so, like a 850 watt light bulb, it doesn't care how it gets the 600 watts, it just needs a combination of volts and amperes equal to 600 watts to "sort of" work and eventually toast my bread. In my own experience, after buying one of these, and after watching the on screen example on this RUclips video, the unit only puts out 380 watts and that isn't 600 watts. At that low wattage it might as well trip its over current protection because it will never make a piece of toast or brew a pot of coffee in anything that would remotely be considered a reasonable length of time. It is a useless feature if this is the way it was designed to work. I think the company has promised something they aren't delivering and I think Hobo is claiming to see a performance that isn't backed up in his video. I invite you to change my mind.
I don't think you're going to get a reply. It says right at the beginning of the video that it's a paid promotion. He gets paid to promote this product. I've seen a lot of people complaining about the same low power output on the Facebook ad and some of the reviews.
Great video, thanks. I have been looking for a power station to use as a UPS when not for long outages and Bluetti wasn't my first choices, but it's become clear it's the best option with proper UPS support and is cheaper than the other common brands.,
The UPS feature for this product is awesome. I already have a GoLabs 200w so haven’t been looking for a small device but this device is making me reconsider. I hope they incorporate this feature set in replacements for the eb70s and the AC200Max (but agree on the lack of quick charge, charging from the front and don’t really care about the new power lifting mode).
Hi,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Thanks!
I’m happy to watch your review. I just bought one for a friend who has a portable oxygen machine and electric wheelchair which have batteries that last a few hours but would be a huge problem if the power went out for a few days. I’m hoping that she can keep her oxygen plugged into this so it stays fully charged and will keep her oxygen flowing if the power goes out while she is asleep.
Same thinking this is a way better product... Only reason I was going to buy the ecoflow was fast charging but this is even better plus it will last way longer
Watch out!!! I ordered two of these pups but the discount of $10 was given to both units. So I ordered one, got the ten spot and will order the other unit separately. Hey, $20 bucks is $20 bucks! OMG!!! Hobo Dude, you totally forgot to fondle that 12 volt DC lighter port with your gloved finger. I'll have to deduct a star for that. lolol (kidding) The more blinking lights on that pup the more I want one. My 👽 friends are waiting for me to contact them. And finally, the devil doll was an added bonus to this video. Peace Tom! 😎
Watching this again after the use of mine for several months. I actually ordered a 2nd one via Amazon Black Friday sale for a great price! I've been using them for van travel to keep my 12 volt car fridges running when boondocking at night. I use one fridge ,54 qt for a fridge, the other a 30qt for a freezer. It's so nice to have these options these days! My GoLabs R300 will keep the fridges running too, but not for as long (of course) & it quit powering devices on the 12 volt side. Bluetti's eb3a made it quite affordable!
Can you leave this unit plugged into the 12V cigarette lighter and plug your fridge into it? Charge while driving and still run the fridge when parked and engine off? If so, will it keep the battery topped off enough to run the fridge continuously if you drive the vehicle every day? I know there are a ton of variables but wanted your thoughts
@@racehosspromotions I don't see the purpose of leaving the Bluetti plugged into my Van's cig lighter to plug the fridge into the Bluetti while driving? Unless you are thinking this way, that the Bluettu keeps charged up too? I've heard that too much pass through charging & using at the same time can damage power station batteries. I don't know if there's truth to that or not? However, I used my fridges plugged into the van, then when parked, I used the Bluetti's. But on a 4 day road trip off grid, I found that the Bluettis could not charge entire nights, they drained out. Thus, it became a game of timing on usage between the Bluetti, cig lighter & fridges. Worrying about fridge Temps. It worked, but I found a much better alternative! Watch HoboTechs vid on the Dr Prepare batteries with the hubs! I ordered 2 of those (1 for each fridge) & ran a test with the fridge that I use for a freezer. My Dr Prepare did not have a full charge on it yet, it had 3 out of 4 bars charged. It ran my freezer for 58 hours before shutting down. I'm quite impressed with that! I find value in both the Bluetti and the Dr Prepare. 👍
I noticed something strange about my EB3A that you did not mention, and might want to look at on other units as well. The first couple of charging cycles, the charger display would indicate 0 watts of charging, but left alone, the state of charge would continue to increase. Especially from 98% to 100%. The very first initial charging cycle, the fans would ramp up and the charging would simply cut off at around 200 watts. I didn't wait to see if it would restart on its own, I just unplugged the cord and restarted it. Turbo mode would shut off immediately, standard would last a bit longer, but even silent, at 103-108 watts would eventually cause the fans to ramp up and shut down the charging cycle. The 2nd charge cycle went somewhat better as standard mode would hold fairly steady at around 150 watts.
For the UPS mode, so if it bypasses the battery completely (if at 100%), would it be “safe” to leave this plugged in indefinitely without causing harm to the battery?
Those cheap ferrite cores from amazon are Ni-Zn which don't suppress much. If you have a proper core from Fair-Rite such as Mix 31 made with Mn-Zn do suppress better. That said it won't make much of a difference below 500kHz.
Guess I missed the HOBOEB3A discount because the "sale" price is $279. I have a Wattfun, which served us well during a 6 hour blackout. And I would have gotten a second one, but you convinced me because the EB3A has double the Watts, and UPS. Amazon had it for $299 - $50 coupon. I guess since I have the fast USBs on the Wattfun, I'm okay with investing in the EB3A now to bookend my set. Our reason for having these small generators is to run fans when the AC is out just long enough to get us to sleep. So we bought rechargeable fans with timers. Now we have enough battery power for two fans, two iPhones and plenty of Netflix or Prime via cellular. Thanks.
If he added enough RF chokes it would have worked. Adding a single one isn't going to cut it. Wrapping the AC cord through a toroid a dozen times would do the trick.
@@HOBOTECH yup... Email from Bluetti... "Dear EB3A customer: Thanks for supporting BLUETTI and purchasing EB3A as your next power source on the road. To improve your using experience, first, we're sending you the MC4 to DC7909 cable (for solar panel connection) for FREE."
Seems to be a good product, however, the low "wh" is a deal breaker for me. P.S. You did mention Jan instead of June @ 24:23 into your program, check it out !!!!
@@timothydriver6751 The river is not a LiFePo4. I rather invest in a solar generator with 2k to 3k cycle's vs one with 500 cycle's. Space is also important, 2 batteries attached?
Just started using the Bluetti EB3A (June 2023). Unfortunately, not a UPS candidate for small computers because it will shut itself off. Even with ECO mode OFF, it will shut down the AC output after about 10 hours of less than 50 watts output. Still, a nice backup for my Jackery due to the Bluetti fast recharge times. Bluetti fast charging and the not needing a brick makes Bluetti an excellent choice for weekend camping for CPAP users (IMO). Thanks for your reviews. I bought Bluetti hoping to get away from the Jackery automatic shut off. I did call and e-mail Bluetting but could not get past the language barrier for a clear answer. Now I know.
Seems to me, for the price of a decent dedicated UPS with similar capacity lead acid battery, you get a high quality lithium and a bunch of other features thrown in at no extra cost with this unit. Edit". To run small fridge in vehicle cab during long trips can pass through power from 12v port then EB3A kicks in when the ignition is turned off. Perfect solution, ordered! Thank you.
Tombox. Hi, I have an Iceco JP42. Great for camping and power down situation. Many great fridges out there with various features - removable wheels on larger ones, lids that open both ways, batteries that can go inside the body or stick to the side, and so on. The mid range price brands have largely caught up in quality to the premium brands. But, for inside my vehicle, eg on the passenger seat or even between seats, looking at something simple and compact. Inexpensive, like the BougeRV 23 or 30 qt on Hobotech site, that will fit the need for me. My (initial) plan is to place the EB3a on the floor in front of the passenger seat, power it with the 12v vehicle port, and place the small fridge on the passenger seat, powered off the EB3a. That way I can access from the driver's seat, and fridge will remain powered when the vehicle is not running. Sorry for long explanation, but hope that helps.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Scored one for $178 can't wait to get it. the only real pooper for me is the lack of bi directional USB C being able to CHARGE IT with 100w PD would have been nice !! in fact most of the time I won't TOUCH a unit that won't let me charge by USB but the only exception I make to this is when its built in AC charging with a C-13 cable. I am also peeved about the pathetic 10amps over DC. that is just a slap in the face. needs to be at least 20amps.
Another great review Professor. I have just bought the Bluetti EB55 and I am really pleased with it, I wish it had some of the EB3A's features though. Was going to buy the EB3A too but unfortunately I am in the UK and it is not listed on the Bluetti UK website at all not even a hint of a UK release.
I'm a little sad that the USB C PD port is only one-way. I've grown fond of charging my GoLabs with USB C. The efficiency is really good. But its nice that it has a direct AC input and a silent charging mode. The efficiency on the DC side is horrible though. I'm a little skeptical that they would be willing to double the C-rate on that battery pack verses the EB55, though. That's a bit scary. Its nice that the EB3A has an actual UPS mode. I wonder how good the switch-over is when the mains go down and whether it detects the mains going out of spec or not (or how well it detects that). I'd love to see these features on the bigger units. I am quite happy with my current EB55, but it took a lot of work to make it silent. It can push a good chunk of power out the AC inverter without turning on its fan, but the fan turns on when you use the MPPT to charge and if you use bluetti's AC adapter on the adapter input the fan on the bluetti doesn't turn on, but the fan on the adapter just stays on forever (and is loud). Once I replaced bluetti's AC adapter (which was a chore in of itself - see note 1), though, I was able to get something totally silent. That's my current 'UPS'... not ideal, but it works. The loss in efficiency going through two voltage conversions (AC->DC for charging, then DC->AC for the inverter output)... is like 30%. Pretty nasty. note 1 - On the EB55 the 'adapter input' port is not regulated. It is basically a direct connection to the battery and just a solid state switch. The EB55 monitors it and 'gives up', shutting it off, if it goes over 200W or over 10A, or the voltage drops below around 23.6V. On the plus side, that makes the input extremely efficient (no voltage conversions), and doesn't add any heat to cause the internal fan to turn on. On the minus side, the adapter DC input is really, really finicky. You absolutely have to provide a properly current-limited and power-limited source, else it either doesn't work at all or it shorts out the source when the battery is low. -Matt
Thanks for another great review. I picked-up one of these 2 weeks ago and made sure to check your reviews when comparing the different makes and models available at that price point. before I did.
Thanks for putting this video together. Very nicely presented. Loved the dino joke about USB A ;-) Interesting to see the sinewave distortion. I looked at my Jackery 300 on a battery scope while running a 200+W transmitter (SB-102) and every cycle when the power supply caps charged back, it pulled down the sinewave a bit. Hoping this will do better since it's 600W rated. Regardless, great review of a great product. I have one on order !
Have you used it? does it work? and I wonder when would you need the quick charge functionality? I think generally we have enough time to recharge the power station
@@chanff7378 Yes, I got one and have used it some. On the ham radio transmitter it solved the issue that I saw with the Jackery 300. Sinewave looks good at all times now. I haven't used the fast/turbo charge mode. In fact, I think I have it programmed in quiet mode currently - since as you said, there's plenty of time to charge normally. My only small complaint is that the surge power rating is possibly too short in duration. I turned on an 800 Watt heater and it tripped out in what seemed like less than one second. So what I've learned from that is to not read anything into the 1200W surge specs on "solar generators". I just use it below 600W and it's fine. Very nice unit ! I love the fact that the charger is built in so I don't have to keep track of yet another power brick 🙂
I have been thinking about several Bluetti products, but that ridiculous charger stopped me. This is a good place to start I think. Thanks for all of your great videos!
Hey Tom, several of us have found the ups function doesn’t work correctly. Can you run a quick test to see if your unit has the same problem? When running in UPS mode, connected to the utility, the relay will randomly click, the power will drop for about 1 second and then return. This happens even though we didn’t loose power. I tested this with a 60 watt lamp and watched the light go out and then back on. So as a Ups for a cable modem this ends up rebooting the modem. Leave yours on for an hour or so and you will probably see the issue. Let us know. Thanks.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Love the channel. Just used your coupon code to purchase one. Quick question, does utilizing the UPS feature stress the battery since it's constantly plugged in and/or impact the number of charging cycles over time? I understand it's being used as a pass-thru, but it's still charging, or being topped off which is why I'm asking.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Thank god you tested that most important feature! LMAO. I have been a fan and follower for a few years now. I thank you for your content. I just bought one of these, and of course decided until after to see if it tested well, per YOUR standards of testing. I am glad to see it does. Thank you!
I setup my own grounding rod for a living room outlet that had no ground. Technically, the grounding is setup through a 3way splitter that's plugged into the outlet and then the grounding cable sneaks it's way along the wall and outside. Old House. But anyway, I took a car audio subwoofer that I converted to a living room subwoofer through an AC to DC box to power the amp. It's that conversion box that I plugged into my AC200 Max and listening to the sub, you could tell there was noise. I decided to try plugging my 3 way splitter with that grounding wire still attached to it, and plugging the conversion box into the splitter into my AC200 Max, and the noise was gone. I don't know how realistic it is for anyone to do their own ground, but maybe something to consider? Maybe worth a mention for these manufacturers to add an "output" option that's just for diy ground?
1) Inverters have no ground 2) A plastic box can't be grounded -- and none of these even have grounded outlets 3) A ground doesn't make it any safer as both inverter leads are hot 4) Watch my Renogy Lycan review it has a ground because it's a steel box.
But what I'm saying is that the devices you plug into the box could be. A vacuum for example can generate a lot of static electricity. Especially in dry cold weather. That ground gives it a place to go. Edit: A bluetti box itself may not have grounded outlets, but because of how my 3 way splitter is setup with a ground built directly on it, and plugging that into the Bluetti box, anything I plug into that 3 way splitter is grounded.
The smaller physical size, 100w DC, and 600w AC make this a compelling alternative to the new EcoFlow River 2. That said, I prefer having all the power inputs together on the back, and all the outputs on the face - cleaner look and operation in use.
Man I want this in UK version. Has everything I’ve been looking for eco flow with the better battery. ✌️. Would like to see this doing some basic “off grid “ cooking with an air fryer and maybe a kettle to see if the small battery can handle it or if after one boil it’s dead 😅
I just bought 2 of these during Prime Day. They had a promotion where you could save an extra 5% if you bought two Bluetti items. This particular item has a clipped additional 5% off, so I got 10% off the REGULAR price of $299 ea. Then with the Prime Day discount, I paid $169 each for two of them.
It's a really nice little unit however I wish it got a few more watt hours to bring it up closer to the 300wh mark. My Golabs which is a budget micro power station has 299wh and is 2/3rds the size. I'm sure they could have fit another 2 cells in there. Like couldn't they charge another $10 for that 32wh more? Sure it doesn't sound like a lot but on these microstations every watt counts. Hell Golabs and Bluetti probably buy their cells from the same damn factory.
Each Lifepo4 cell is 3.2v. Where 3.2 * 4 = 12.8v for 12v applications and double that for 24v applications. They would need to keep their ~12 or ~24 volts which means they'd always have to add 4 or 8 cells depending on what voltage target they had to pair with the inverter. This could scale up to 48v or whatever, too, obviously, depending on application.
@@HutchinsonJC Then use higher capacity cells, the golabs uses 4000mAh cells. If you had 8 cells total say 4 x 4000mAh hour cells x2 in series running parallel you could easily bump up the capacity a bit.
@@chrissinclair8705 You could do that. It would likely be a premium for a higher amp hour cell used. Can't say I'm in their head on how to build these and market these, but these sell on Amazon for $299 and have a 50 dollar off coupon. I think HOBO's link saves you a bit more than 50. Anyway, if they are targeting a certain price point, or targeting a certain % of profit, or targeting an undercutting of a competitor's product, or targeting supply availability, or any number of targets or reasons, you can imagine they build them with something to those effects in mind.
@@briizcustoms9543 people often confuse watts and watthours. Watts is a unit of energy used at any given instant or an amount of energy capable of being distributed at any given instant. Watthours is a total measurement of energy either stored or used in an hour. This box has a 600 watt inverter. So it can output 600 watts at any given instant. It has a surge rating higher than that, but that's there and available usually only for a very few seconds and is great for initial startup of some kinds of loads, notably many loads with a motor as the startup power to get one moving is often pretty high compared to its normal operating power draw. It does not have a 600 watthour battery - it's less. It can only output 600 watts for less than 30 mins because it has a 268watthour battery and because of efficiency losses. With 268 watthours, if we pretend efficiency losses don't exist, you would be able to power 268 watts for one hour or 134 watts for two hours or 67 watts for four hours, etc.
Thanks for including the "food saver mode" information. After learning the hard way, it's the first thing I look for now. (And of course, the S.O.S. is the second.)
This is a great, relatively inexpensive battery bank. It should charge my little lunch box kit and phone, maybe even a portable water heater for tea or coffee. Love the quick charge feature. If dining on the road and there is an outlet at a restaurant, charging this unit probably would easily pass the critical eye of the server. Time to pony up the funds!
Great video as always. I'm wondering if you've heard of the mango power Union? Seems like a very powerful device, but without you or Will Prowse reviewing it, I won't even consider purchasing it.👍🏾
Hey the S.O.S. light is really a party strobe light. C'mon man! You know how the little guys and gals love to party! Fogger is optional. Ok on a serious note. I prefer all the connectors on the same side as it is more practical in tight spaces. Awesome review and keep up the great videos!
Do you provide comparisons for whole house generators?? You are excellent at your presentations and technical analysis. It would be great if you could advise on whole house generators like Generac, Cummings, Kohler etc.
I think it would be cool if these companies released some sort of companion software to go with their ups featured products that could shut down computers during a power loss event. Sort of like what Cyberpower does for their ups products.
Nice review. I just got a Jackery 300 to run my compressor fridge and thank goodness for free returns at Amazon because that sucker is going back and I've already ordered an EB3A (note, power stations above this 300 W model for pretty much all the manufacturers do not have free returns on Amazon). I'd watched a lot of videos on these things (I refuse to drink the KoolAid and call them Solar Generators), and everyone was whining about the noise from the brick fan, not having a true percent charge remaining display, dim green power lights etc). It looks like Bluetti watches these videos too because they seem to have addressed each of those gripes in the EB3A (even though you griped about the placement of the input plug for 110). You also did not mention that even though this will charge in "turbo" mode in an hour, my understanding is this stresses the batteries out and should not be done on a regular basis.
If Bluetti and EF combined companies, I think that'd be the sweetest thing ever, but Bluetti sure did do a great job at blowing the River Mini completely out of the water.
As always I’m impressed by your work! I’d like to offer some feedback for fun discussion sake. 1. Referring to the power feature that lowers voltage etc, it is not accurate to state that “it’s 600 watts, less voltage = more amperage”. This can vary quite a bit by the loads and sources, they interact with eachother and can even “enable” more or less of one another… meaning higher voltage can allow some loads to draw more amps and the inverse is also true, lower voltage can reduce the amperage a load can draw (keeping it on). Try it! Please test and monitor the amps of your loads with the reduced voltage mode active. This lower power usage enabled the unit and load to stay on, but not necessarily at the desired output. 2. Charging rate- I’m unclear why the recharge time is so important to you, most of us don’t mind charging phones for hours each night. I’d much rather you’d criticize products with separate (noisy) charging blocks. All of these units should be able to (slow) charge without external added junk. I think more credit should be given to clean and effective packages, some have solar that folds up and is enclosed (Montek) Does this unit really charge fast? It’s just that it has a small energy capacity, fun example does it take more time to fill a 1 gallon gas can or a 5 gallon gas can? 3. What’s the history of the “solar degenerator”? Thanks
@@hawaiian0074 thanks for the comment- why is it a priority ? (What the scenarios that cause this? Do you only have access to an outlet for 20 minutes?)
@@dannywitz Make breakfast battery be depleted you can hook up a 4-500w inverter to your car Charge this in a 40 min car ride Ready charged for next meal time. then charge on your way home etc Bigger options would be better charge at home or whatever but something small like this with no power brick you could charge anywhere coffee shops / pubs / bars no one’s gonna think much of it. Carry in an ac200x and plug that in some eyebrows will raise 😅
@@dannywitz - LOL, I believe he nicknamed that thing the "solar degenerator" because it has killed (or exposed boastful claims) of some of these units. Can't remember exactly, someone with better tech knowledge will describe the reason for the nickname more accurately.
Usb c in would allow me to scrounge up any power bank and pass juice to the more useful machine.... also one wire accross most modern devices. Its usb c in/out or bust. This company has wonderful support and they are aware now. Hopefully an update will fix.
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Relike my video I lost it during an edit
bought one using your discount code thanks Hobotech
@Whats Up Chb2 you need a certain amout of volts for the solar generator to recognize the solar panel.That little panel wouldnt do it IMO
I placed two separate orders. That way I got the HobotechEB3A discount on EACH. 😎
@Whats Up Chb2 try it see what happens i could be wrong
been a fan for years, paycheck clears after midnite, live in a shoe box sized apt, just wanted to say thanks for all you have done. means more to us than you will ever know
Thank You! You rock! Perfect addition to my collection. I have 2 Bluettis, 700wh & 1500wh & 1 Jackery 1000. I've been waiting for a killer deal so I could get another Bluetti for my nightstand. I live in my skoolie, I'm a plug and play girl. Yes, I like Bluetti over Jackery, but don't tell my Jack, he keeps my frig runnng.
Thanks for the review and code. Ordered one up with the pv200 panel, pretty good deal and been wanting one of their 200w portable panels. Informative and entertaining, just the way I like it.
Just got the 200 max but thinking about getting this for my BR for lamp, phone charging and electric blanket.
Wow. I was just thinking a couple of days ago I need to find a small solar generator. I have the large 2000 and love it. I now will have a nice portable for so many little things. fans, phones, lights. I'm so excited. I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate all the time you put in to testing, and then share on your Utube channel. Having a utube channel is a job all by itself.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
YOU ROCK!
Best review on this product I've seen so far
A fantastic review video, as always. I’m so glad you did not shorten it and kept it reasonably long. And I must admit, I watch partially just for the flashlight SOS bit.
I bought one of these using your code. I couldn't be happier with the performance and features. Coupled with the AC200 solar panel , we were able to keep all our power tool batteries charged while building a deck on a remote desert lot. The EB3A never broke below 75%. Thanks for the recommendation.
How long with it last I want to charge Ryobi battery off-grid
@@stephonnicholls150 I kept five Ryobi's in constant rotation and had power to spare for the day. Started with pre-charged batteries and only recharged 4 of them once.
Thanks so much for your reviews. I purchased this recently and got it on sale. This is my first power station and I’m extremely pleased with it. I have a Solar setup on my camped Honda Element, I just didn’t have a portable power station. I’ve put this little power station through numerous tests and I’m happy with its performance. This was def a great buy. Thanks again for all of your reviews, they def helped with my purchase decision.
I love this little unit. A very smart battery for sure. The size is extremely handy. Paired with the EB70 and, if you can afford it the AC200, you will be pretty well covered. As always, great review.
Lol, @ "pretty well." In the case of a blackout; I would say that you're safe. You could "tug" the AC200 alone around to power lamps, a mini fridge, or a microwave fairly easily I think with just that unit in and of itself. Even a/c units or heaters. Most people would probably fair well spending a little money on gas for a gas generator anyway, and typically have them. I think this is called overkill. It's almost like having fun choosing which puppy you're gonna set loose for a couple of hours. I'd rather have a gas generator to power a house during an extreme crisis. EB3A or 70 would be amazing for smaller emergencies.
I got the eb70 I love it. Perfect for blackouts and camping
Just unboxed my B/eb3a, thank you for the video, instruction manuals and I don't do well together. This unit goes with the Roadman Camping Trailer pulled by an 1800 VTX with a Champion Trike Kit, it's to run a fridge, lap top computer, charge phones, drone and my beer opener. The B/2000Watt unit is for the toy hauler, thank you for the reviews on these units!
A fantastic review video, as always. I'm so glad you didn't shorten it and kept it reasonably long. And I must admit, I watch partially just for the flashlight SOS bit. 😄
Purchased this unit after watching. Here’s my assessment after using for a few weeks.
Pros: fast charging/high watt inverter for size.
Although it tends to overheat when using hard and quick charging.
Cons: small battery
I have a Dometic 55IM fridge. I hooked it up to the BLUETTI and it will not even run for 24 hours, more like 12. This is with the ice maker off, set to 34 and 77 degree ambient temperature. It’s just not enough battery capacity. Back to running off my battle born 100ah battery.
Never trust a paid product video.
People really trust you, and for good reason. Thanks.
Just pulled the trigger on this. If the Runhood had been a little bit better price, I would not have even watched this video. So glad I waited. Thanks Professor!
The EB3A definitely looks like an Ecoflow River ripoff.
Can’t really compare just price without looking at the Wh. 268Wh in this Bluetti compared to 1296Wh in the Runhood package. This is 6 times smaller!
Just ordered it with the discount code, thank you Tom!
Got one on July 7th and hooked to my manual transfer switch to see what it would run. It will work the garage door opener, run the full size refrigerator- probably not much more than an hour, and it will run a 5000 BTU air conditioning unit just under 30 minutes. I parked it at an outlet not covered by the transfer switch where it is a UPS for the cable modem and router (16 watts). It's a cool unit and I'm very happy. Now I can do everything except run the central air conditioner and dry clothes when the power goes out.
@@troyd.521 I just plugged it into the input with a short extension cord. The transfer switch has a three prong 120 volt male input jack. It is a Goal Zero Yeti Home Integration Kit made by Reliance.
@@troyd.521 One of my goals for the year was to have backup power and I couldn't even get an electrician to come out to the house. After a little research I decided on the pro trans 2 four circuit (Goal Zero Yeti) because it looked simple and I could use something small to run it. I purchased it, tried to get more electricians to come out, but everyone was too busy, so I installed it myself and bought a Champion dual fuel inverter. I initially planned to mount it outside and had a waterproof box for it, but I ended up mounting it in the master bedroom and made a pass-through for an extension cord which is now a pass through for mc4 cables. I now have a Bluetti AC200 Max with one B230 battery that I am running the refrigerator and the kitchen outlets off of full-time. As I add more panels and batteries, or change the system, I'll run more stuff.
@@troyd.521 I guess I could have taken a 240 plug and just wired one leg if I had that kind of setup.
I have a jackery 1500 and I like it, but I've been wanting to get a smaller unit for smaller events where I don't want to lug around the 30lb jackery...this is perfect! Thanks for the discount sir!
Right on!
That's why I have 3 smaller units and not a giant 1 shot 1500. A- because I can't afford one lol and B - it just makes sense to have more around camp instead of just 1 big one
The way you say ‘Hobotech knows product review’ is a tonic after a long day. 👍
Thank you for your time and effort with these reviews. They are professional around all the information required and the testing is thorough and kept to an understandable level. The humour adds another level and keeps them interesting and is a vital part to my mind. Thank you again and every success with your website and future work. Thanks again. Stay safe. Andy.
Having two power delivery ports even at 60 W would’ve made this nearly the perfect powerstation, for me. I personally do not mind the charge plug being on the front of the device along with all the other connections. That way I can plug it in and unplug it with ease and not have to pick around the back I’m leaving a restaurant while using/charging it.
I ordered one to use while on the go for work. I can’t hardly wait to receive it.
Add 60 watt car adaptor?
I am hoping that this is just the first of a new generation of Bluettis that feature the new improved integrated charger (no more brick) and screen. Certainly would love a AC200P with these upgrades.
Agreed!
@@HOBOTECH Question: Does the App notify you in any way if the battery is running low? I want to use this as a replacement for a Dead UPS on a server I have but while the dead UPS had software that told the server to shut down gracefully when the battery runs low, I am not sure this (or any UPS capable So Gen) has that feature. So does it at least let you know if the battery is running low?
@@jonjohns8145 Not that I noticed.
I think (not 100% sure) the eb70 also integrates the AC brick.
The software update bricked my EB3A. Be careful of what you wish for.
I bought this unit on your recommendation. Thanks for all the info. Amazon prime it was only $200 for the two day sale.
Ferrites are actually used to suppress large transient voltage spikes. They won’t do anything for the continuous noise interference you hear on the amplifier. The magnetic field created by the ferrite creates a resistance to large variations in voltages. Ferrites used in conjunction with varistor-based surge protection devices can help protect your home from large voltage spikes caused by EMPs and large (Solar) Coronal Mass Ejections. They can also provide some protection from nearby lightning strikes, although they probably can’t protect from a direct strike (lighting rods are best for direct strikes). This message brought to you by “The Preppers Consortium” 😉
The noise though is not DC continuous, it's just too low in frequency to be helped by snap on ferrites. Snap-ons on good for high frequency blocking. I'm sure they're helping in this instance too, (softening of the sharp transitions) but not enough to be noticeable. Finally, most of this noise is likley conducted and not radiated. A common mode input filter would be a better choice.
I’ve never heard of ferrites for surges, but beads are used to block hf and above frequencies. Hams use them to block computer and power supply noise etc th et work great.
The hum he gets from the amp is likely 60hz which would need a huge ferrite bead to work.
@@RickLaBanca Power cables...mostly. That's a signal cable...which is why they had no effect....besides the fact the the cable itself is already shielded. A lot of snake oil when it comes to cables. Even power cables get the treatment...folks claiming better power coming in equals better signal going out...which is non-sense.
@@JACKnJESUS he put one bead on the power cable.
@@RickLaBanca Yeah, I know...same difference. Every certified power cable has plenty of shielding if you are using the proper gauge for equipment draw. Audio systems are a marriage of gear and resistance and impedance. That is what you strive to streamline...and then you don't have to worry about the rest of it. More than anything....folks mismatch their gear and or wiring...and then look for solutions that won't help. It's almost always user error...and few like to admit that. If you know how to do it...the only problem is ground loops.
I believe you are one of the most creative technicians and just a genius you are,, thanks HoboTech you are the MOST.🇺🇸🙏🏽🕊
I love my eb3a . But I wanted something even smaller. I bought into the ryobi 150 watt inverter and love it. I also have the ecoflow river pro with the extended battery. These power stations are an addiction with utility. I already had to use them in an outage and if course camping
I have several of Ryobi's 40V tools and got one of their 300W inverter to let me use those batteries when I have a power outage at home. The drawback with them is they don't seem to have a charger that lets you do simultaneous charging and running the inverter for the 40V line. ☹
I took a look at their 1800W inverter, but ended-up buying this unit as it should be able to run anything I would need in a short-term outage.
I love your little 6-legged inspector/assistant at 4:35.
I really wanted to not like this new offering from Bluetti, mostly because of the Energizer 240 I bought a while back. I think the decision to give this small unit a surprisingly large inverter AND the "power lifting mode", makes this a completely different beast. Throw in crazy fast charging and it's no surprise the battery is only rated to 2,000 cycles, but is that really a problem? Who is going to cycle this every single day for 5.5 years and then complain it didn't last very long?
Most commercial UPS products designed for keeping your PC up and running will only last for a very short time, if you have a power outage. Those products usually retail for $75 to as much as you want to spend, but almost all of them come with some kind of lead-acid battery. Something not often discussed with conventional UPS products is that those lead-acid batteries degrade over time, even if you aren't using them. That means when you finally do have a power outage of any length, your PC still crashes before you have time to shut it down, because the battery in the UPS is now basically junk. This Bluetti EB3A would be a far better choice because of the LiFePO4 battery characteristics, so for not a whole lot more money, you get a far better value, if a computer UPS is your primary use case.
Is this generator a true 600 watt or is there a catch to that claim? The average price for solar gens has been $100 per watt. I don't get how they are able to sell this unit for $50 a watt. Sounds too good to be true.
@@Bizzare77777 - I think you're confusing how many watts the inverter can put out with how many watt-hours worth of capacity the battery holds. Watch the whole review and your questions are answered in full.
😅🤣😂😂 Ummmm... not many people. lol
Had some issues using the UPS feature but following updates using the app, now works perfectly. Very pleased.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Went to purchase, had questions about cables so will try tomorrow when they are available. This will be a gift so I want to make sure I have it right. This is a great deal! Thanks
I was just told the solar cable is now included with purchase. The car charging cable if you need it will be added to the page shortly.
@@HOBOTECH thank you.
I ordered one with the car charger cable and 200W solar panels this morning. Thanks for your help and code.
Finally something cheap for non-apocalyptic use!
For me having these for phones etc for short power outages is ideal.
I watch every review though because I like excellence. You’re right up there with project farm, outstanding reviews always.
Shout out to Project Farm, fully agree with this comment!
Your video was fantastic. It answered all my questions and some I didn't even know that I didn't know!
Here is how you can expand the internal battery with an external battery and an AC charger.
During the day, when the Bluetti battery is full, plug in the AC charger and charge the big external battery. Albeit at 100W max.
Sure you'll lose some efficiency, but when the Sun goes down, unplug the charger, plug the external battery to the DC input.
This way, you're using the Bluetti's internal MPPT to charge its internal battery at 200Wh, while taking power from Bluetti's inverter to run the external charger to charge the external battery.
Your code doesn't work for Canada? I like to buy one and support you at the same time if I can.
this is awesome. I currently use 15+ apc 1500s. Most only last a year or so, so I'm constantly replacing them(the lead acid batteries). I went as far as buying a bunch of 18650 and putting them in a 7s config with a small bms to see if I could replace the 24v lead acid battery with lion. I was never happy with my nickel spot welding job and so never finished it.
Thanks again for your time and help... For me camping and Ham radio..
Updated comment after living with it. Worked great in the car running a F40C4TMP 12 Volt Refrigerator 24 Quart (23L). EB3a kept the fridge on without interruption for days, whether car was on or off. It powered the fridge and a fan all night, charged fast once driving resumed. Super useful. Had "overload" issues with the UPS function once home, but after updates were installed via the app, UPS now works perfectly. So super happy with it.
As far as the app, before owning this unit felt an app was a gimmick. But now that I have the app, being able to check to be sure everything is running right using phone is awesome. Not a gimmick after all. App connects instantly, and really intuitive. FWIW, velcro-ed an "Apache 550" case from Harbor Freight, $15., to the back of the unit, (sizes match) so all EB3a cables can live in one place, always with the unit. This is working super well.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Thank you for the update. Nice trick with the plastic box going to steal your idea :D
I just ordered my second one of these. I like this model because of its Bluetooth connectivity. I own the eb55 that doesn’t have Bluetooth. I like the way you can monitor it from laying in your hammock with a iPhone. I want all of Bluetti models to have Bluetooth in the future
Thanks hobo! Used the code. This will get my feet wet with a solar generator. I was eyeing the eb70s, but at this price point I can play around and figure stuff out.
I just purchased mine based on this review. Thanks!!
Instead of saying 'fake solar' you should say 'faux-tovoltaic' 😅
Sir, your 5 likes are criminally miniscule. I tip my hat to you.
Quite possibly the most clever thing I have heard all week. Thank you
This is my kind of humor 😁
that was good dude !
A man ahead of his time
Hey HOBOTECH I always enjoy watching the videos just wanted to say I’ve wanted a solar generator/power bank forever and even though I plan on buying a bigger one in the future I’m super excited to be getting this little guy thank you for the great reviews.
Having all the ports on the same side as the reason why I just bought one before finishing the video. I use an earlier Bluetti to run a portable fridge in the back of my car, and the fact that the input for the cigarette lighter is on the back and the output for the refrigerator is on the front means that it's impossible for me to figure out how to keep it running on the seat of the car, if you strap it in you'll be bending one cable or the other against the seat or blocking the fan. when I get this one I can put it in my back passenger seat safely and still have access to all of the plugs on the front.
Which fridge are you running
Damn! I just ordered a River yesterday. I'm thinking of returning it now and getting this!
Oh, and subbed! :)
Hobo, you said in the video that the Power Lift mode would allow a 600 watt power draw, although at a lower voltage. I bought one of these and tried it on my 840 watt coffee maker using Power Lift. It only delivered 382 watts at about 78 volts.The same happened with my 850 watt toaster. I wondered what was wrong with my unit, so I refreshed my memory by watching your review over again. Although you SAID @ 9:56 that it would continue to deliver 600 watts, your own test clearly shows it's only delivering 268 watts at 53 volts. Later @ 10:43 you said the 1600 watt heater was running at 600 watts. (wasn't on camera, but I trust your word) Did you misspeak when you said 600 watts or are our units malfunctioning? I can't make toast or brew coffee at this wattage unless I take all day. I was willing to wait 25% longer at 600 watts. This doesn't seem to be of much use just because it will "run" the appliance. Effectively, if you tried to run eight 100 watt light bulbs on Power Lift, you would get 382 watts worth of light. Where is the utility in that? Also, have you noticed your unit only charging from the wall at 120 watts sometimes, even though the charger is in Boost mode? Could this be a heat thing, since it seems to happen when I've run the battery down with a high load?
In my understanding, it just allows it. Runs the higher wattage appliances but at lower power. A better than nothing scenario. My mini unit would just shut off like a fuse.
It translates power to work, not actually give impossible amounts of power, but as Hobo says, you’re pushing it to translate power this way.
@@Sparkyspage I think that you my not understand what watts are. 600 watts can be 1 ampere at 600 volts or it can be 600 amperes at 1 volt. Additionally, it can be 300 amperes at 2 volts or it can be 2 amperes at 300 volts or it can be 5. 2 amperes at 115 volts. About 115 volts is what a toaster is usually powered by when it's plugged into a typical wall socket. If that wall socket were to be limited for some reason to a maximum output of 600 watts, a toaster that would like to have 850 watts available to it to work "normally", like my toaster requires, would have to settle for the 600 watt limit that the wall socket was able to provide and it wouldn't get as hot or toast as fast, BUT, it would eventually toast my bread and would be limited to a draw 5.2 amperes to stay within the 600 watt limit that the socket had placed on it, in this hypothetical example. Now imagine that the wall socket is this power pack. It promises to provide 600 watts of power to my toaster that wants 850 watts of power. It can do that by allowing the voltage to stay at 115 volts and just delivering 5.2 amperes or it can drop the voltage to 90 volts and allow the amperage to climb to 6.7 amperes. My toaster is a purely resistive load, so, like a 850 watt light bulb, it doesn't care how it gets the 600 watts, it just needs a combination of volts and amperes equal to 600 watts to "sort of" work and eventually toast my bread. In my own experience, after buying one of these, and after watching the on screen example on this RUclips video, the unit only puts out 380 watts and that isn't 600 watts. At that low wattage it might as well trip its over current protection because it will never make a piece of toast or brew a pot of coffee in anything that would remotely be considered a reasonable length of time. It is a useless feature if this is the way it was designed to work. I think the company has promised something they aren't delivering and I think Hobo is claiming to see a performance that isn't backed up in his video. I invite you to change my mind.
I don't think you're going to get a reply. It says right at the beginning of the video that it's a paid promotion. He gets paid to promote this product. I've seen a lot of people complaining about the same low power output on the Facebook ad and some of the reviews.
Great video, thanks. I have been looking for a power station to use as a UPS when not for long outages and Bluetti wasn't my first choices, but it's become clear it's the best option with proper UPS support and is cheaper than the other common brands.,
The UPS feature for this product is awesome. I already have a GoLabs 200w so haven’t been looking for a small device but this device is making me reconsider. I hope they incorporate this feature set in replacements for the eb70s and the AC200Max (but agree on the lack of quick charge, charging from the front and don’t really care about the new power lifting mode).
Same, I have the same golabs unit. These things advance so fast! I want to just keep returning them for upgrades
Hi,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode?
Thanks!
I’m happy to watch your review. I just bought one for a friend who has a portable oxygen machine and electric wheelchair which have batteries that last a few hours but would be a huge problem if the power went out for a few days. I’m hoping that she can keep her oxygen plugged into this so it stays fully charged and will keep her oxygen flowing if the power goes out while she is asleep.
Your A good friend. GOD Bless You!!!
Wow just in time , I was just about to grab me the Ecoflow River untill i saw your review , thanks!
Same thinking this is a way better product... Only reason I was going to buy the ecoflow was fast charging but this is even better plus it will last way longer
Just got mine! Thanks Hobo!
Watch out!!! I ordered two of these pups but the discount of $10 was given to both units. So I ordered one, got the ten spot and will order the other unit separately. Hey, $20 bucks is $20 bucks! OMG!!! Hobo Dude, you totally forgot to fondle that 12 volt DC lighter port with your gloved finger. I'll have to deduct a star for that. lolol (kidding) The more blinking lights on that pup the more I want one. My 👽 friends are waiting for me to contact them. And finally, the devil doll was an added bonus to this video. Peace Tom! 😎
Watching this again after the use of mine for several months.
I actually ordered a 2nd one via Amazon Black Friday sale for a great price!
I've been using them for van travel to keep my 12 volt car fridges running when boondocking at night. I use one fridge ,54 qt for a fridge, the other a 30qt for a freezer. It's so nice to have these options these days!
My GoLabs R300 will keep the fridges running too, but not for as long (of course) & it quit powering devices on the 12 volt side.
Bluetti's eb3a made it quite affordable!
Can you leave this unit plugged into the 12V cigarette lighter and plug your fridge into it? Charge while driving and still run the fridge when parked and engine off? If so, will it keep the battery topped off enough to run the fridge continuously if you drive the vehicle every day? I know there are a ton of variables but wanted your thoughts
@@racehosspromotions I don't see the purpose of leaving the Bluetti plugged into my Van's cig lighter to plug the fridge into the Bluetti while driving? Unless you are thinking this way, that the Bluettu keeps charged up too? I've heard that too much pass through charging & using at the same time can damage power station batteries. I don't know if there's truth to that or not?
However, I used my fridges plugged into the van, then when parked, I used the Bluetti's. But on a 4 day road trip off grid, I found that the Bluettis could not charge entire nights, they drained out. Thus, it became a game of timing on usage between the Bluetti, cig lighter & fridges.
Worrying about fridge Temps. It worked, but I found a much better alternative!
Watch HoboTechs vid on the Dr Prepare batteries with the hubs! I ordered 2 of those (1 for each fridge) & ran a test with the fridge that I use for a freezer.
My Dr Prepare did not have a full charge on it yet, it had 3 out of 4 bars charged. It ran my freezer for 58 hours before shutting down.
I'm quite impressed with that! I find value in both the Bluetti and the Dr Prepare. 👍
I noticed something strange about my EB3A that you did not mention, and might want to look at on other units as well. The first couple of charging cycles, the charger display would indicate 0 watts of charging, but left alone, the state of charge would continue to increase. Especially from 98% to 100%. The very first initial charging cycle, the fans would ramp up and the charging would simply cut off at around 200 watts. I didn't wait to see if it would restart on its own, I just unplugged the cord and restarted it. Turbo mode would shut off immediately, standard would last a bit longer, but even silent, at 103-108 watts would eventually cause the fans to ramp up and shut down the charging cycle.
The 2nd charge cycle went somewhat better as standard mode would hold fairly steady at around 150 watts.
You do such a great job. So proud of you. Being stranded in Wyoming to look at you know. You rock
For the UPS mode, so if it bypasses the battery completely (if at 100%), would it be “safe” to leave this plugged in indefinitely without causing harm to the battery?
Just ordered! thanks for the informative video it helped me decide.
Just bought my first solar generator. At this price, how can I loose? Thanks for all of your great reviews!
I'm sold. I ordered one today. The regulated 12V and passthrough sold me.
Those cheap ferrite cores from amazon are Ni-Zn which don't suppress much. If you have a proper core from Fair-Rite such as Mix 31 made with Mn-Zn do suppress better. That said it won't make much of a difference below 500kHz.
Well, then it won't make any difference, since that hum is 60Hz AC hum.
And put it closer to the amp end of the cord.
@@unknownquantity4440 that’s actually 120Hz, the 2nd harmonic.
Guess I missed the HOBOEB3A discount because the "sale" price is $279. I have a Wattfun, which served us well during a 6 hour blackout. And I would have gotten a second one, but you convinced me because the EB3A has double the Watts, and UPS. Amazon had it for $299 - $50 coupon. I guess since I have the fast USBs on the Wattfun, I'm okay with investing in the EB3A now to bookend my set. Our reason for having these small generators is to run fans when the AC is out just long enough to get us to sleep. So we bought rechargeable fans with timers. Now we have enough battery power for two fans, two iPhones and plenty of Netflix or Prime via cellular. Thanks.
Thanks for making tech fun again !
Edit: RF interference with the power amp is likely a proximity effect/lack of shielding, etc.
Most of us don't concern ourselves with Amp interference.
If he added enough RF chokes it would have worked. Adding a single one isn't going to cut it. Wrapping the AC cord through a toroid a dozen times would do the trick.
Just received mine... well built compact unit... I can confirm mine did not come with solar cable. Thanks HOBO I did get $10 off
The cable is shipping separately.
@@HOBOTECH yup... Email from Bluetti...
"Dear EB3A customer:
Thanks for supporting BLUETTI and purchasing EB3A as your next power source on the road. To improve your using experience, first, we're sending you the MC4 to DC7909 cable (for solar panel connection) for FREE."
Seems to be a good product, however, the low "wh" is a deal breaker for me.
P.S. You did mention Jan instead of June @ 24:23 into your program, check it out !!!!
I know for a minute I thought I missed the sale and was watching an old video. Lol
You can always get the River and attach an extra battery at the bottom whenever you need it.
@@timothydriver6751 The river is not a LiFePo4. I rather invest in a solar generator with 2k to 3k cycle's vs one with 500 cycle's. Space is also important, 2 batteries attached?
Just started using the Bluetti EB3A (June 2023). Unfortunately, not a UPS candidate for small computers because it will shut itself off. Even with ECO mode OFF, it will shut down the AC output after about 10 hours of less than 50 watts output. Still, a nice backup for my Jackery due to the Bluetti fast recharge times. Bluetti fast charging and the not needing a brick makes Bluetti an excellent choice for weekend camping for CPAP users (IMO). Thanks for your reviews.
I bought Bluetti hoping to get away from the Jackery automatic shut off. I did call and e-mail Bluetting but could not get past the language barrier for a clear answer. Now I know.
Seems to me, for the price of a decent dedicated UPS with similar capacity lead acid battery, you get a high quality lithium and a bunch of other features thrown in at no extra cost with this unit. Edit". To run small fridge in vehicle cab during long trips can pass through power from 12v port then EB3A kicks in when the ignition is turned off. Perfect solution, ordered! Thank you.
which fridge do you recommend?
Tombox. Hi, I have an Iceco JP42. Great for camping and power down situation. Many great fridges out there with various features - removable wheels on larger ones, lids that open both ways, batteries that can go inside the body or stick to the side, and so on. The mid range price brands have largely caught up in quality to the premium brands. But, for inside my vehicle, eg on the passenger seat or even between seats, looking at something simple and compact. Inexpensive, like the BougeRV 23 or 30 qt on Hobotech site, that will fit the need for me. My (initial) plan is to place the EB3a on the floor in front of the passenger seat, power it with the 12v vehicle port, and place the small fridge on the passenger seat, powered off the EB3a. That way I can access from the driver's seat, and fridge will remain powered when the vehicle is not running. Sorry for long explanation, but hope that helps.
@@bkanegson thank you for the explanation. I might get one later down the road, and what you recommend looks good!
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Scored one for $178 can't wait to get it. the only real pooper for me is the lack of bi directional USB C being able to CHARGE IT with 100w PD would have been nice !! in fact most of the time I won't TOUCH a unit that won't let me charge by USB but the only exception I make to this is when its built in AC charging with a C-13 cable. I am also peeved about the pathetic 10amps over DC. that is just a slap in the face. needs to be at least 20amps.
Another great review Professor. I have just bought the Bluetti EB55 and I am really pleased with it, I wish it had some of the EB3A's features though. Was going to buy the EB3A too but unfortunately I am in the UK and it is not listed on the Bluetti UK website at all not even a hint of a UK release.
Im in the UK too - I asked Bluetti yesterday when it will be released and they said October.
@@ivorhooper Thanks for that I will keep an eye out for it thank you
Between your and Bob Wells reviews I decided to buy one and I love love love it❤
It charges up so fast on that panel🎉
I'm a little sad that the USB C PD port is only one-way. I've grown fond of charging my GoLabs with USB C. The efficiency is really good. But its nice that it has a direct AC input and a silent charging mode. The efficiency on the DC side is horrible though. I'm a little skeptical that they would be willing to double the C-rate on that battery pack verses the EB55, though. That's a bit scary.
Its nice that the EB3A has an actual UPS mode. I wonder how good the switch-over is when the mains go down and whether it detects the mains going out of spec or not (or how well it detects that). I'd love to see these features on the bigger units.
I am quite happy with my current EB55, but it took a lot of work to make it silent. It can push a good chunk of power out the AC inverter without turning on its fan, but the fan turns on when you use the MPPT to charge and if you use bluetti's AC adapter on the adapter input the fan on the bluetti doesn't turn on, but the fan on the adapter just stays on forever (and is loud). Once I replaced bluetti's AC adapter (which was a chore in of itself - see note 1), though, I was able to get something totally silent. That's my current 'UPS'... not ideal, but it works. The loss in efficiency going through two voltage conversions (AC->DC for charging, then DC->AC for the inverter output)... is like 30%. Pretty nasty.
note 1 - On the EB55 the 'adapter input' port is not regulated. It is basically a direct connection to the battery and just a solid state switch. The EB55 monitors it and 'gives up', shutting it off, if it goes over 200W or over 10A, or the voltage drops below around 23.6V. On the plus side, that makes the input extremely efficient (no voltage conversions), and doesn't add any heat to cause the internal fan to turn on. On the minus side, the adapter DC input is really, really finicky. You absolutely have to provide a properly current-limited and power-limited source, else it either doesn't work at all or it shorts out the source when the battery is low.
-Matt
Thanks for another great review. I picked-up one of these 2 weeks ago and made sure to check your reviews when comparing the different makes and models available at that price point. before I did.
Love that intro. You make interesting boring stuff Awesome.
Fun fact: if you watch him on 1.5 speed, it's a lot more fun in my opinion
I just ordered for this device after watching this video. Can't wait to have it
Thanks for putting this video together. Very nicely presented. Loved the dino joke about USB A ;-) Interesting to see the sinewave distortion. I looked at my Jackery 300 on a battery scope while running a 200+W transmitter (SB-102) and every cycle when the power supply caps charged back, it pulled down the sinewave a bit. Hoping this will do better since it's 600W rated. Regardless, great review of a great product. I have one on order !
Have you used it? does it work?
and I wonder when would you need the quick charge functionality? I think generally we have enough time to recharge the power station
@@chanff7378 Yes, I got one and have used it some. On the ham radio transmitter it solved the issue that I saw with the Jackery 300. Sinewave looks good at all times now. I haven't used the fast/turbo charge mode. In fact, I think I have it programmed in quiet mode currently - since as you said, there's plenty of time to charge normally. My only small complaint is that the surge power rating is possibly too short in duration. I turned on an 800 Watt heater and it tripped out in what seemed like less than one second. So what I've learned from that is to not read anything into the 1200W surge specs on "solar generators". I just use it below 600W and it's fine. Very nice unit ! I love the fact that the charger is built in so I don't have to keep track of yet another power brick 🙂
My month is complete ive seen the Dancing Alien... love that little guy
I have been thinking about several Bluetti products, but that ridiculous charger stopped me. This is a good place to start I think. Thanks for all of your great videos!
Hey Tom, several of us have found the ups function doesn’t work correctly. Can you run a quick test to see if your unit has the same problem? When running in UPS mode, connected to the utility, the relay will randomly click, the power will drop for about 1 second and then return. This happens even though we didn’t loose power. I tested this with a 60 watt lamp and watched the light go out and then back on. So as a Ups for a cable modem this ends up rebooting the modem. Leave yours on for an hour or so and you will probably see the issue. Let us know. Thanks.
@@troyd.521 Yes. A firmware update fixed the bug. UPS works correctly now.
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Thanks for the review and code. Ordered one, and now need to look at the solar panels you recommended.
This was a hard "NO" until..........SOS LIGHT!!! NOW I'm ALL IN!!!!!👽👽👽👽
Thank you as always for creating this kind of content!
Love the channel. Just used your coupon code to purchase one. Quick question, does utilizing the UPS feature stress the battery since it's constantly plugged in and/or impact the number of charging cycles over time? I understand it's being used as a pass-thru, but it's still charging, or being topped off which is why I'm asking.
on ecoflow the battery is not used and does not affect the cycles so i assume its the same
Hello,i read somewhere when using as ups it produces noise,even at 100% charge. Moreover both charger and station making this noise. Can you confirm? Are you using it in silent mode? Also if i have a power supply 750 watt,will i be able to use it as ups? Actually my pc doesnt takes so much power,but in case i game theoretically it can take some more than 600 watt,wont it let my pc turn off if i have black out? Thanks
Thank you, Professor. This Canadian trusts your intel ...
Great review Tom! I'm still looking for a bluetti and now this device has my attention.
Wish they had a 800/900w version
Eb70s
they have an EB70S for like 500 right now
I found one at Mercado Libre in Mexico
Thank god you tested that most important feature! LMAO. I have been a fan and follower for a few years now. I thank you for your content. I just bought one of these, and of course decided until after to see if it tested well, per YOUR standards of testing. I am glad to see it does. Thank you!
I setup my own grounding rod for a living room outlet that had no ground. Technically, the grounding is setup through a 3way splitter that's plugged into the outlet and then the grounding cable sneaks it's way along the wall and outside. Old House.
But anyway, I took a car audio subwoofer that I converted to a living room subwoofer through an AC to DC box to power the amp. It's that conversion box that I plugged into my AC200 Max and listening to the sub, you could tell there was noise. I decided to try plugging my 3 way splitter with that grounding wire still attached to it, and plugging the conversion box into the splitter into my AC200 Max, and the noise was gone.
I don't know how realistic it is for anyone to do their own ground, but maybe something to consider? Maybe worth a mention for these manufacturers to add an "output" option that's just for diy ground?
1) Inverters have no ground 2) A plastic box can't be grounded -- and none of these even have grounded outlets 3) A ground doesn't make it any safer as both inverter leads are hot 4) Watch my Renogy Lycan review it has a ground because it's a steel box.
But what I'm saying is that the devices you plug into the box could be. A vacuum for example can generate a lot of static electricity. Especially in dry cold weather. That ground gives it a place to go.
Edit: A bluetti box itself may not have grounded outlets, but because of how my 3 way splitter is setup with a ground built directly on it, and plugging that into the Bluetti box, anything I plug into that 3 way splitter is grounded.
Maybe you're float grounded? Old houses (like mine) were usually float grounded.
The smaller physical size, 100w DC, and 600w AC make this a compelling alternative to the new EcoFlow River 2. That said, I prefer having all the power inputs together on the back, and all the outputs on the face - cleaner look and operation in use.
“We’re screwing up down here!” Amen lol
I couldn’t resist-got two! Twins… 💕💕 (Bonus! Bluetti purchases earn points toward future
purchases. And you WILL make future purchases 😉).
Man I want this in UK version. Has everything I’ve been looking for eco flow with the better battery. ✌️. Would like to see this doing some basic “off grid “ cooking with an air fryer and maybe a kettle to see if the small battery can handle it or if after one boil it’s dead 😅
Made coffee and waffles for 6 people on a single charge
did you get it? we want something for camping .. lights, phones etc
I just bought 2 of these during Prime Day. They had a promotion where you could save an extra 5% if you bought two Bluetti items. This particular item has a clipped additional 5% off, so I got 10% off the REGULAR price of $299 ea.
Then with the Prime Day discount, I paid $169 each for two of them.
It's a really nice little unit however I wish it got a few more watt hours to bring it up closer to the 300wh mark. My Golabs which is a budget micro power station has 299wh and is 2/3rds the size. I'm sure they could have fit another 2 cells in there. Like couldn't they charge another $10 for that 32wh more? Sure it doesn't sound like a lot but on these microstations every watt counts. Hell Golabs and Bluetti probably buy their cells from the same damn factory.
Each Lifepo4 cell is 3.2v. Where 3.2 * 4 = 12.8v for 12v applications and double that for 24v applications.
They would need to keep their ~12 or ~24 volts which means they'd always have to add 4 or 8 cells depending on what voltage target they had to pair with the inverter.
This could scale up to 48v or whatever, too, obviously, depending on application.
@@HutchinsonJC Then use higher capacity cells, the golabs uses 4000mAh cells. If you had 8 cells total say 4 x 4000mAh hour cells x2 in series running parallel you could easily bump up the capacity a bit.
@@chrissinclair8705 You could do that. It would likely be a premium for a higher amp hour cell used. Can't say I'm in their head on how to build these and market these, but these sell on Amazon for $299 and have a 50 dollar off coupon. I think HOBO's link saves you a bit more than 50. Anyway, if they are targeting a certain price point, or targeting a certain % of profit, or targeting an undercutting of a competitor's product, or targeting supply availability, or any number of targets or reasons, you can imagine they build them with something to those effects in mind.
I don’t understand, I thought this unit was 600 watts? Where are you getting 300 watts from?
@@briizcustoms9543 people often confuse watts and watthours.
Watts is a unit of energy used at any given instant or an amount of energy capable of being distributed at any given instant.
Watthours is a total measurement of energy either stored or used in an hour.
This box has a 600 watt inverter. So it can output 600 watts at any given instant. It has a surge rating higher than that, but that's there and available usually only for a very few seconds and is great for initial startup of some kinds of loads, notably many loads with a motor as the startup power to get one moving is often pretty high compared to its normal operating power draw.
It does not have a 600 watthour battery - it's less. It can only output 600 watts for less than 30 mins because it has a 268watthour battery and because of efficiency losses.
With 268 watthours, if we pretend efficiency losses don't exist, you would be able to power 268 watts for one hour or 134 watts for two hours or 67 watts for four hours, etc.
Thanks for including the "food saver mode" information. After learning the hard way, it's the first thing I look for now. (And of course, the S.O.S. is the second.)
This is a great, relatively inexpensive battery bank. It should charge my little lunch box kit and phone, maybe even a portable water heater for tea or coffee. Love the quick charge feature. If dining on the road and there is an outlet at a restaurant, charging this unit probably would easily pass the critical eye of the server. Time to pony up the funds!
Careful anything that needs heat is gonna drain and use a lot of energy
These small ones can't power coffee pots, heaters etc
Bought one. Thanks Hobo you saved me an extra $10!
Great video as always.
I'm wondering if you've heard of the mango power Union? Seems like a very powerful device, but without you or Will Prowse reviewing it, I won't even consider purchasing it.👍🏾
Hey the S.O.S. light is really a party strobe light. C'mon man! You know how the little guys and gals love to party! Fogger is optional. Ok on a serious note. I prefer all the connectors on the same side as it is more practical in tight spaces. Awesome review and keep up the great videos!
Do you provide comparisons for whole house generators?? You are excellent at your presentations and technical analysis. It would be great if you could advise on whole house generators like Generac, Cummings, Kohler etc.
hobotech.tv/large-home-backup-ups-240v-solar-generator-power-stations/
You made it sooo easy for me to pull the trigger.....ty
I think it would be cool if these companies released some sort of companion software to go with their ups featured products that could shut down computers during a power loss event. Sort of like what Cyberpower does for their ups products.
Would need a USB port to plug into said computer first :)
Just ordered one. Used your discount code and got $ 1.00 off. Out the door price was $ 250.61.
Nice review. I just got a Jackery 300 to run my compressor fridge and thank goodness for free returns at Amazon because that sucker is going back and I've already ordered an EB3A (note, power stations above this 300 W model for pretty much all the manufacturers do not have free returns on Amazon). I'd watched a lot of videos on these things (I refuse to drink the KoolAid and call them Solar Generators), and everyone was whining about the noise from the brick fan, not having a true percent charge remaining display, dim green power lights etc). It looks like Bluetti watches these videos too because they seem to have addressed each of those gripes in the EB3A (even though you griped about the placement of the input plug for 110). You also did not mention that even though this will charge in "turbo" mode in an hour, my understanding is this stresses the batteries out and should not be done on a regular basis.
Charging EV's in turbo mode is fine up to 80% but not recommended after that for the life of the lithium battery so switch to slow charge after 80%
If Bluetti and EF combined companies, I think that'd be the sweetest thing ever, but Bluetti sure did do a great job at blowing the River Mini completely out of the water.
As always I’m impressed by your work! I’d like to offer some feedback for fun discussion sake.
1. Referring to the power feature that lowers voltage etc, it is not accurate to state that “it’s 600 watts, less voltage = more amperage”. This can vary quite a bit by the loads and sources, they interact with eachother and can even “enable” more or less of one another… meaning higher voltage can allow some loads to draw more amps and the inverse is also true, lower voltage can reduce the amperage a load can draw (keeping it on). Try it! Please test and monitor the amps of your loads with the reduced voltage mode active. This lower power usage enabled the unit and load to stay on, but not necessarily at the desired output.
2. Charging rate- I’m unclear why the recharge time is so important to you, most of us don’t mind charging phones for hours each night. I’d much rather you’d criticize products with separate (noisy) charging blocks. All of these units should be able to (slow) charge without external added junk.
I think more credit should be given to clean and effective packages, some have solar that folds up and is enclosed (Montek)
Does this unit really charge fast? It’s just that it has a small energy capacity, fun example does it take more time to fill a 1 gallon gas can or a 5 gallon gas can?
3. What’s the history of the “solar degenerator”?
Thanks
Charging time is a huge feature that's a priority for me. Quick charge👍👍
@@hawaiian0074 thanks for the comment- why is it a priority ? (What the scenarios that cause this? Do you only have access to an outlet for 20 minutes?)
@@dannywitz Working in the field (no AC), a quick stop for coffee or a bite to eat also allows a quick recharge via an AC outlet.
@@dannywitz
Make breakfast battery be depleted
you can hook up a 4-500w inverter to your car
Charge this in a 40 min car ride
Ready charged for next meal time.
then charge on your way home etc
Bigger options would be better charge at home or whatever but something small like this with no power brick you could charge anywhere coffee shops / pubs / bars no one’s gonna think much of it. Carry in an ac200x and plug that in some eyebrows will raise 😅
@@dannywitz - LOL, I believe he nicknamed that thing the "solar degenerator" because it has killed (or exposed boastful claims) of some of these units. Can't remember exactly, someone with better tech knowledge will describe the reason for the nickname more accurately.
Unfortunately the poor usb c support is a deal breaker for me. Was waiting for a lifepo4 with ecoflow like specs but this isn't the one. Bummer.
It has 100w usb-c it doesn't get better than that!
Usb c in would allow me to scrounge up any power bank and pass juice to the more useful machine.... also one wire accross most modern devices. Its usb c in/out or bust. This company has wonderful support and they are aware now. Hopefully an update will fix.
The River is way, way better than the EB3A and you can add an extra battery to double the capacity.