Do LONG ARMS Make Bench Press Harder?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Long arms are NOT by themselves a predictor of your bench press performance. Today we go over some of the research!
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Let me tell you, I can touch my knees while standing. It’s harder. 😭
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do you have long arms or short torso xD
@@watermelon1221 Long arms. I can reach a regulation basketball rim at 5’6”.
Edit: jumping of course. Lol
@@SM-cq1mm Condolence? Long arms are beneficial in almost every sport except for olympic weightlifting.
I think people often attribute total wingspan to arm length when the two are often correlated but not always. Having a wide shoulder girdle will add to your total wingspan. Others might have longer arms, but narrower shoulders. Something to consider I guess.
That makes a lot of sense. "Big chest" had me confused, this cleared it up. I
Yeah wingspan and arm length definitely isn't always the same. Wingspan might be the same but if someone's chest is 2 inches wider then the arms are shorter.
Though it isn't just that. What he says in the video is pretty obvious. Those with a big chest usually have the biggest muscle and that also reduces the range of motion regardless of arm length. The worst at benching tend to be lanky people, which is obvious. Smaller, thin, long arms. Someone else may have the same arm length but be thicker boned, more muscular, with a wider chest.
1. Upper arm length is more relevant than forearm length.
2. Muscle ATTACHMENT point determines leverage power which is significant.
What length should upper arm be?
Not a good topic for „youtube shorts“, as there is much more to cover.
First it depends on the ratio between forearm/upper arm… you cant just say, short or long arms…
My thoughts exactly
Excellent point! Similar to squat where femur length plays a role in overall performance more than overall leg length. I would imagine segment length of the arm (humorous vs. forearm) play more of a role than overall length.
If you look at Marvin Eder who was an utterly phenomenal presser, his upper arm is noticeably short relative to his forearm. He had a big chest too. His records for not only bench press but military press, pull-ups and dips are insane. 😮
Have a 6’8 wingspan being 6’2 height and tell me the same thing. Feel like benching for a mile on the way up
holy shit 6'8????? Everyone better be asking you to reach for stuff lmfao😂
@@tasbirmiah5247 damn right😭.
@@erickvelasquez6410 Grandma gonna be talking to you about how much you've grown and my midget ass will never hear that 😂😂
@@tasbirmiah5247 lmao
😂 I swear half of heavy lifting is all mental, I had a couple fiends in high school same weight different height, both started lifting with me at the same time and the taller one with longer arms was able to bench more naturally, long arms don’t mean shit in my opinion, I have very long arms and was able to out do people with short arms who had been benching longer. I think it’s a myth that some tall dude made up because he didn’t want to accept that a shorter person was stronger then him lol, and now it’s in people heads fuckin with there work out., it makes for an easy excuse.
My buddy in high-school was barrel chested with trex arms and massive triceps, wasnt even fair.
that's like saying you'll squat more if you have bigger legs
It's simple physics! Longer limbs make lifts harder! This is why short stocky dudes can *naturally* get to bigger weight vs the same person with longer limbs! Now if they're getting that *jamba juice* help, then all logic is gone! It's the same physics that make longer breaker bars work better than shorter ones!
@AK Milli scientifically proven?!
Forget the fact that i'm the one that goes through with what i said, since it's 'scientifically proven', do explain the physics of how breaker bars work ,and why a longer bar works better than a shorter one, and why (especially with all natural lifters) people with shorter bar path (shorter limbs) lift more than people with longer bar paths (longer limbs), on avg! Why are there no worlds strongest men that are 7ft or more and all natural?!
Because apparently leverage and physics has been disproven scientifically, according to you!
@AK Milli going to try this one last time: the same logic (physics and leverage) that applies to breaker bars, applies to everything else in the real world, including human limbs!
I'm done here!
@AK Milli The video doesn't prove anything... The study shown is not a proper answer to the question. A good study would be trained and untrained individuals with similar variables with the difference of shorter and longer arms put into a bench program and see how they progress.
What he just said is like saying arm length doesn't predict boxing performance but previous training does. Of course lol it's obvious but it doesn't deny that longer arms have advantages in that sport.
@@TENNSUMITSUMA this is moronic. if the moment arm is close to zero, the length of the lever is trivial. a bench press done right with proper grip width should not have an extreme moment arm
Your wrong, I’ve seen taller dudes at the same weight as short ones barely starting off benching and most of the time the taller guy is able to lift more even though they weight the same and his arms are longer it’s a myth, but a lot of short stocky guys do have a massive chest though witch is what he’s talking about if you watched the video. The only thing that really makes the bench easier/ harder is weight if you weigh more it will be way easier for you long arm or not. Don’t let the be your excuse for coming up short no pun intended lol.
Study with a small sample size versus hundreds, if not thousands, of people living the same experience and saying the same thing.
Sometimes, science is late to the party (like the benefits of full body workouts).
So it comes down to engineering mechanics and how far someone has to move a bar to count 1 rep (weight x distance = total work).
Work is a poor mesure of difficulty. It takes more work to take a 15kg weight and walk up a tall building’s stair than to bench 350kg, but it still much easier.
Absolutely
Wrong the bench get significantly easier once you get past the mid point of the lift after that it’s cake, arm length don’t mean shit weight does though that the one thing that always give me a good idea of how much some one can bench who has never benched before, not arm length.
This is just high school physics
@@brunojambeiro6776Yeah but we are talking about Work done in about the same amount of time. Not something that has 10x+ the amount of time to accomplish that amount of work
This doesn't prove anything... Of course anyone can get a big bench if they train for long enough doesn't matter the arm length if the chest grows. But i bet that if you compare untrained and similar trained individuals on the same bench press routine the individuals with shorter arm length will progress faster.
That’s Kyle from Tanks, I used to train there and he helped me a lot with me bench!
My chest is huge and my bench sucks,but I'm 100% stronger in pulling movements
You call that extremely long arms lol ?
The dude ain't even pushing 6.2. Bro I'm 6.5 and when you would measure both my arm length it would end up being almost 2 meters long and that is over my height...
I dont understand how biomechanically longer arms wouldnt be disadvantageous. The force you generate gets lost on the angle at the elbows.
As a short guy the study is kinda bs. OFC is someone with longer arms who trained and has a big chest better in benchpressing than a untrained dude with short arms. But that doesnt mean that arm lenght doesnt matter.
But anyways dont use it as an excuse.
I don’t know why they fail to mention this the goal of benching is to touch the bar to your chest. If you have a barrel, chest and short arms, you are moving the bar shorter basically to 90° most of the time.
My weights are not that much impressive due to my long arms, however my chest is insanely bigger than the guys who can bench more than me , i believe its due to rang of motion advantage
If your weights aren’t impressive it’s because your not as strong it as nothing to do with arm length if it did you would be able to lift it as high as there arm length is before you gave out and dropped the weight.
In competition arm length contributes, arch and arm length reduces range of motion, but this guys struggle in deadlift :)
i have a slightly shorter torso but supa long legs and arms
Source: *my friend*
lmao bro i am 6.4 its just basic knowledge, longer arms require a greater range of motion, dont get me wrong but yapping for views without giving the whole context is just lazy
and before any hardcore fan of this channel rolls up sleeves against me, get the idea of what im saying
long arms will influence our benching but not our ability to bench, lifting is physics the amount of distance the weight travels will make a difference, and the lever greatly increases, and if the friend of this guy can is just a "scenario" take two beginners, same diet, same routine, one short & one long armed, the one with shorter arms will be raising the weights quicker than the other its a fact
so why do the best benchers in the world not have short arms, but a variety of arm lengths?
Fun thing if you research it a bigger chest and quads are related to bigger lifts, with deadlifts the research isnt there as far as i have found. (with the back etc)
I think that the combination of having long arms and a short torso is what can make it hard. I’m built like an Orangutang and have basically no arch and long arms to go with it
I think long arms sort of make it harder to bench not necessarily in a strength way though, if you have longer arms you can put more muscle on them of course so I think it's abouuut even, harder in exertion I think is quite possible because of the longer range of motion though
Idk if this is a good study as chest girth isn't a precise measurement of skeletal proportions (of course this short doesn't explain how they measured this data) obviously dudes who are more muscular are going to have larger chest size due to muscle mass 🤷🏻♂️ and also be the stronger individuals in the study regardless of arm length.
But it is interesting nonetheless
Did that study account for the fact people with longer arms on average have a bigger chest?
One person to lock out have to lift the weight 12" the other dude have to lift a weight 22"..... I think there are some mathematical disadvantages to that. I would need measuring tools to know for sure
It's because they have the genetics to become so strong that they develop such massive chests, not the other way around. So yes, a huge upper body reduces ROM because your pecs are closer to the bar, but you'll never get to that place if you're not able to.
lmao you did not understand what they meant by girth.
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Wait. You have a bigger chest when you bench a lot. Your arm length doesn’t matter here. But it doesn’t mean it’s not harder for one over the other, no?
I have long arms with a tiny chest lol
Well most of the times, you are at damn disadvatage. This is why you shouldn't always rely om studies.
Just today my buddy did 5 PRs in the same session, and my jaw dropped when I saw that. We both were following same program, and decided to test our 1RM. I failed, and he did fuckin 5 PRs!!
Why? Because his arm length gave him tremendous advantage.
i have t rex arms
Legit 5 ft 10 with a 6 ft 2 wingspan I was the most feared duck duck goose player back in kindergarten, so let me tell you Bench is hard if you have long arms
As a long skinny type guy, I like to think my bench and squat are low because I have farther to lift ;(
jk, I know I just need to train more!
It does make biceps curls hell though.
This is just dumb. W = FD, work is equal to force times distance. Having longer arms literally makes benching more difficult as the weight has to move further, as well as longer levers making balancing the weight more difficult
Weird. I have a tiny chest but have always benched more than nearly everyone at gyms.
Muscle attachment points are more important but harder to measure than total length.
Well damn I guess I'm just weak then
Nah this video is not proof of anything
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His arms looked short to me 🤔
Here is a good follow up Do this arm length study on preacher curls long arms vs short arms there maybe a little difference.
Dude needs to put a jock strap on under the suit. TMI. No mushroom caps, please.
Your frend doesnt have long arms what are you on dude..
Yes. Next. More range of motion means more distance to travel. How fucking hard is that.
I think the point is rather leverage