Wow, man, thanks a lot, i never tought i will meet someone on youtube who actually agrees with me in something! And by the way, I still enjoy doing jma, just sometimes I feel that endless drills and kihons should be replaced by actual sparring. What's funny, is that I can see the relief in my mates' eyes when we are told we will do some sparring... doesnt matter, just feeling good.
That particular video was in a dojo, between kendo practicioners. Also, if you mind taking a look at european swordfighting, that includes a lot of grapling, too. Japanese doesn't, because japanese swords didn't have a large guard, thus had smaller variety in combat. they became great at cutting, and fighting their own way, but even such small things as using a crossguard can change a fight.
pre-arranged kata is common for safety reasons, you see this in all if not most of their arts. in aikido for example, the "loser" allows the other practioner the benefit of practicing for many repetitions. you can only master the technique after many repeats. if you just focus on just free fighting, progress is slow, and you dont learn as much bec the enemy doesnt not allow you to use other moves. time spent healing could have been used for practice.
I know japanese used grappling, but I am not talking about wrestling, and such. I am talking about sword grappling, by which I mean, going half-sword, and locking in with your crossguard, your leg, using bodypower, and a lot more. also, to position the blades in a way that you can kill the opponent from a stationary position, without slashes or thrusts. this is usually dirty, and requires the attacker to risk getting close. japanese swordfight is a bit more distant, in this term.
I wasn't speaking of katas, I was trying to tell that while JMAs might be effective in self defense, two trained opponents, one JMA, the other BJJ, the BJJ mostly wins, because he sacrifices innovativity and simplicity for effectiveness. by this, i mean he might not block as well, be cant do so beatiful throws, buthe knows one, and can do it any time, at any cost. practice is obvious to be done by having an attacker and a defender, I only say that sometimes the defender could react realisticly.
This is a very common complaint, but in all fairness, the purpose of kata is not necessarily to train you for actual combat. Kata highlight individual concepts, ideas and central theory. The only place to actually learn the real application of the techniques demonstrated in kata is through free sparring, which, you're right, is tragically lacking in a lot of traditional Japanese martial arts.
I didnt mean fight, i meant sparring in the dojo, which i presume, you do, and also, dont tell me you didnt want to fight as an adolescent all the time, or at least think about it!
Now I have had enough of this, that you can't reply in a way that It actually progresses the debate. IN MY OPPINION japanese swordfights taught nowadays teach you how to fight unarmored, while being aware of the sword's extreme sharpness, and that every little cut can be deadly. In contrast, European fighting was 'braver' because the risk was lover (protection+duller swords), and it game them a more innovative, and thus more adaptive fighting style.
same banana, dude, armored grapples with swords and glaives happend on the battle field also. you're comparing the unamored combat forms with their armorless counterparts.
just to show what I mean, here are some video. It is easy to find a good, but these two look promising. watch?v=B4X1FNhYx3U watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg And again, I repeat, I have no problem with japanese martial arts. I only think that there are certain parts of it that require development. There is also self defence. Have you noticed that if two fight with swords, they use short, quick blows, but if it is a disarm, the attacker uses wide strikes, and swings the sword like a maul?
I am not an expert, and i don't want to sound dumb, but most of these strikes could have been interrupted, or at least, equiated by a different strike. Imo this is the problem with all japanese martial arts, they expect the enemy to be untrained, slow, and able to be taken down by one hit, yet expect the attacker to attack in a way THEY would attack, for example, with a clean perpendicular cut(to the ground). They dont train for the unexpected, only at master level. experience: 6 years karate
For what? For the supperiority of BJJ over Japanese Martial Arts in the ring? Just watch any "freestyle" fighting, and you can see it. And I involved BJJ because I dont have experience with swordfighting or fencing schools, and because the main philosophy of JMA reflects in all of them: simplicity, effectiveness, but sometimes the lack of unknown factors. I have recetly seen a video of a high ranked kendo practicioner get hit on the head multiple times in a fight. that is weird i think.
You might enjoy it, but I suppose you are a girl/woman. I am a boy, and as every other boy, I want to fight, and to be effective in real life. No offence, just sain'.
you dont speak for all guys . Im a guy , practice martial arts and dont want to fight . Every time you fight you risk chance of injury and law suit , it aint worth it .
南北朝時代の念流からの広まった戦国時代の小太刀中心の殺人剣の動きがよく分かります。この自分の頭を防御しつつ相手を攻める技は、小太刀の柄を狙う影流、新陰流に受け継がれます。尾張柳生をかじったことがある私には興味深く勉強になります。
Wow, man, thanks a lot, i never tought i will meet someone on youtube who actually agrees with me in something! And by the way, I still enjoy doing jma, just sometimes I feel that endless drills and kihons should be replaced by actual sparring. What's funny, is that I can see the relief in my mates' eyes when we are told we will do some sparring... doesnt matter, just feeling good.
That particular video was in a dojo, between kendo practicioners. Also, if you mind taking a look at european swordfighting, that includes a lot of grapling, too. Japanese doesn't, because japanese swords didn't have a large guard, thus had smaller variety in combat. they became great at cutting, and fighting their own way, but even such small things as using a crossguard can change a fight.
pre-arranged kata is common for safety reasons, you see this in all if not most of their arts. in aikido for example, the "loser" allows the other practioner the benefit of practicing for many repetitions. you can only master the technique after many repeats. if you just focus on just free fighting, progress is slow, and you dont learn as much bec the enemy doesnt not allow you to use other moves. time spent healing could have been used for practice.
I know japanese used grappling, but I am not talking about wrestling, and such. I am talking about sword grappling, by which I mean, going half-sword, and locking in with your crossguard, your leg, using bodypower, and a lot more. also, to position the blades in a way that you can kill the opponent from a stationary position, without slashes or thrusts. this is usually dirty, and requires the attacker to risk getting close. japanese swordfight is a bit more distant, in this term.
you have actual statistics for this? this video is abt swordfighting. how did bjj get involved in this?
i want to learnn pleeeeeeeeaseeeeeeeeeee i'll be a good student n.n what do you say??
I wasn't speaking of katas, I was trying to tell that while JMAs might be effective in self defense, two trained opponents, one JMA, the other BJJ, the BJJ mostly wins, because he sacrifices innovativity and simplicity for effectiveness. by this, i mean he might not block as well, be cant do so beatiful throws, buthe knows one, and can do it any time, at any cost. practice is obvious to be done by having an attacker and a defender, I only say that sometimes the defender could react realisticly.
nope, japanese created jujitsu and related arts. the japanese used a lot of grappling too.
Tout est dans la maitrise de l'arme,
ce n'est pas dans sa longueur.
merci pour ce beau kata .
彼女達の速さは私をとても驚かします。 戦いで鋒を全然注目しません。
(Sorry for my bad japanese language.)
This is a very common complaint, but in all fairness, the purpose of kata is not necessarily to train you for actual combat. Kata highlight individual concepts, ideas and central theory. The only place to actually learn the real application of the techniques demonstrated in kata is through free sparring, which, you're right, is tragically lacking in a lot of traditional Japanese martial arts.
Biultiful!!
O-tanto or Wakizashi?
I didnt mean fight, i meant sparring in the dojo, which i presume, you do, and also, dont tell me you didnt want to fight as an adolescent all the time, or at least think about it!
Now I have had enough of this, that you can't reply in a way that It actually progresses the debate. IN MY OPPINION japanese swordfights taught nowadays teach you how to fight unarmored, while being aware of the sword's extreme sharpness, and that every little cut can be deadly. In contrast, European fighting was 'braver' because the risk was lover (protection+duller swords), and it game them a more innovative, and thus more adaptive fighting style.
same banana, dude, armored grapples with swords and glaives happend on the battle field also. you're comparing the unamored combat forms with their armorless counterparts.
I doubt it will work.
just to show what I mean, here are some video. It is easy to find a good, but these two look promising.
watch?v=B4X1FNhYx3U
watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg
And again, I repeat, I have no problem with japanese martial arts. I only think that there are certain parts of it that require development. There is also self defence. Have you noticed that if two fight with swords, they use short, quick blows, but if it is a disarm, the attacker uses wide strikes, and swings the sword like a maul?
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I am not an expert, and i don't want to sound dumb, but most of these strikes could have been interrupted, or at least, equiated by a different strike. Imo this is the problem with all japanese martial arts, they expect the enemy to be untrained, slow, and able to be taken down by one hit, yet expect the attacker to attack in a way THEY would attack, for example, with a clean perpendicular cut(to the ground). They dont train for the unexpected, only at master level. experience: 6 years karate
For what? For the supperiority of BJJ over Japanese Martial Arts in the ring? Just watch any "freestyle" fighting, and you can see it. And I involved BJJ because I dont have experience with swordfighting or fencing schools, and because the main philosophy of JMA reflects in all of them: simplicity, effectiveness, but sometimes the lack of unknown factors. I have recetly seen a video of a high ranked kendo practicioner get hit on the head multiple times in a fight. that is weird i think.
sorry you can't prove that. ring fighting rules favor a lot of grappling.
武道を嗜む女性は何故こうも美しいのだろう。
You might enjoy it, but I suppose you are a girl/woman. I am a boy, and as every other boy, I want to fight, and to be effective in real life. No offence, just sain'.
you dont speak for all guys . Im a guy , practice martial arts and dont want to fight . Every time you fight you risk chance of injury and law suit , it aint worth it .