I agree with some comments..x.77 cars had no chrome on welds and the cross ram was not on this car..it had a 780 Holley carb and 4bbl intake original..car would have been better with original stuff..no jl8 brakes either...it sounds good but no headers on stock z cars..too many non.stock items.r
anyone notice the tach shows a 6000 redline, when actual Z-28 tachs have a 6500 redline ? both of mine were 6500. i think this one might be a very well done clone.
@@Micah-kbluezr as i re-watch the video, i can see its not a clone. mine did not have the cross ram manifold, or the rear disc brakes. they did have headers that i installed myself. i can't explain the discrepancy in tachs, both of mine had the yellow warning at 6200, and the redline at 6500 to 8000. all 69 Z-28's had the 8K tach, it was part of the Z-28 option package. the salesman is incorrect.
The twin 4-barrel Holly's were just right for a cross-ram Z28. Keep in mind that the stock version of those crabs had vacuum secondaries, so most of the time you were actually running on 4 barrels... not 8. The secondaries on both carbs didn't open up unless you were really revving the motor. Hey, it's not a family car. It's a gas guzzling monster and man, what a sweet ride. This comment iscoming from a former owner of a '69 Z. Hottest car that I've ever owned, bar none.
Wow! Talk about a chance viewing leading to a lengthy and enjoyable trip down memory lane. I was a freshman in college (GMI in Flint, Michigan) and one of my fraternity brothers had a father who was some sort of big shot at GM (they were somewhat common at GMI back then) and he had scored a 1967 Z28 in a company car resale. It was yellow with black stripes, a black vinyl interior, and a black vinyl top. I don't remember the carburetor, but it had headers. a fancy cowl intake cold air system, and a 2.20 first gear M22 Rockcrusher. If it wasn't running, there was little to give indication as to its potential besides the stripes. There was no markings indicating the engine size and it didn't even have the little crest over the Camaro script on the front quarters that the cars with the basic 230 6 cylinder had. But there was no question when it was running. The cam had to be pretty radical, because the idle was rough and lumpy and high. And it was loud. I enjoyed reading all the comments about people who had encountered or owned Z28s. I remember that this car was a real SOB to get off the line. The combination of the 2.20 low gear, the radical cam, and the high volume carburetor made it hard to launch, and even when you were successful, the results (initially through low gear) were less than stellar. It also didn't help that it almost took both legs to depress the clutch and the clutch was "grabby." ...But once you managed to launch and get the RPMs up, the car transformed into something mythical and magical. And (for it's time) it had a precision in handling that was unlike anything I'd ever experienced before. Winding trough small twisty back roads in Southeast Michigan in the fall was memorable now, and remains memorable even more than fifty years later. So, what happened to this car? Damned if I know. But this fraternity brother apparently had a "silver spoon in his mouth" and it may have proved to be a disadvantage; because he never really "dug in" and washed out of GMI shortly after entering for grades. ...One of those cases where "being hungry" compensated for perhaps even being "the sharpest knife in the box" or "the guy with the coolest car." All I remember is the draft breathing down my neck with the promise of a scholarship to "Saigon U." if I didn't perform. I didn't need any additional inspiration or motivation for this short term goal.
I think I see a few things wrong with this car. The X77 Z28 did not come with the chrome style package and this car has it such as the chrome fender gills. Only the X33 Z's had those.
The oil fill tube is for a 1968 Z-28, not a 1969, which had the oil fill hole in the left valve cover, as this card does as well. Two oil fill holes on the same engine? Something seems amiss here.
Jeff: I have owned two 1969 Camaro Z/28s,both purchased new in 1969 at Rosenthal Chevrolet in Arlington,VA. Is your Z a late build? The reason I asked is because I don't recognize the primary gauges on your car. I,by no means, don't want to start a war with everyone that reads this I'm simply asking a question.
@Boredout454 Very wrong. The 1969 Camaro Indy Pace Car came stock with the cowl hood. I purchased my second 1969 Z/28 in August '69 and it came to the dealership with the cowl hood [as an option ]. I'm sure you remember the 1970 Camaro went with a complete body change and the 302cuin engine was replaced with the 350cuin. There is no way a '69 cowl hood would fit a '70 Camaro.
Rear disc brakes & dual 4 barrel cabs?? I dont think so. That manifold & carbs look brand new aftermarket... Never seen a z28 with those options and I've never heard ANYONE TALK ABOUT IT...
Dan Perron in Charleston, SC bought a 1967 X-Ram, dual-4 barrel, chambered exhaust Z/28 and turned it into a M/E drag car named 'LITTLE HERO' that ran 10.30 @ 3299 Lbs with a 287 cid SBC
My cross ram was not as nice as this one, but it was pretty cool. Had it in 2000 and most of my parts came from Rick's Camaro's . The air filter back then was $500 for a reproduction. Changed it to a single four barrel and was more manageable on the street.
Now I beg to differ with the guy that said these cars were slow off the line I had the pleasure of riding in the one my aunts husband had and he worked at a GM plant anyway she drove that thing like a bat out of hell and kicked many mustangs and even other cars with larger displacements ass on the streets so I'm sorry bruh I gotta disagree with you on that one the way that thing pulled you would have swore it was a big block powered car.
Anything thats period correct is worth more these cars are strictly investment show cars!!! And the Z28 is an awesome muscle car!!! Better looking than the corvette as far as im concerned!!!
Not only better looking than the Corvette, but the nicest Camaro ever built. I can say this as I have had a 1969 Z/28, 302,4 speed and I wish I had it back now. Compared to todays car's, In a heart beat! No pun intended. LOL!Check out my vid,( Entering an Oklahoma freeway). 05 GMC short wide sierra.
I have had two friends who had these Z-28's brand new in 1969. The x-ram and the headers were not installed by the factory or the dealers. When the cars were delivered the manifold and headers were in the trunk. Not one of these cars had headers installed from the factory.
I know it's been over 3 yrs ago since you posted, but everyone already knows that the cross ram ( it's NOT an "x ram" ) intake & headers not installed at the factory & came in the trunk only on special order. For crying out loud, in this video the man said QUOTE: "These units were NEVER installed at the factory, they were special ordered dealer installed options only". And YES, the dealers WOULD install them, but of course it was cheaper to install them yourself. But don't sit there & make the bullshit claim as if "NO dealer would install these parts, they simply refused". ANY dealer that you bought this car from, special ordered with the cross ram, duel 4 bbl's, and headers would install them IF you were willing to pay for it. I had friends that owned these cars too, bought brand new. One had them dealer installed.......the other installed them himself at his buddy's shop, with his help.
That is a gorgeous car.My fav Camaro ever made is a 69 Z/28. Thats exactly the way id want it NOS parts used and/or original restored parts.Nice price for a cross ram car also :D
@thewhox56 Yes, they were either dealer installed or installed by the owner. Never from the factory. Chevy had to make them available for racing purposes ;-)
Hey Jeff, I love this Z. Very nice but I would highly recommend fixing that vacuum line that goes to the brake booster. Not a hater just noticed. Tight pinch on vac is never good. Keep up the good work.
Is it my imagination or does this guy sound like Obama? I'm talking about his voice only, not political views. The difference is he's not selling us a load of crap!
I'm having trouble getting a chevy intake or chevy exhaust manifolds that bolt up. Did Pontiac. Buick or Cadillac or Corvette have something that bolts up? I pulled these heads from a Camaro, but there was no intake manifold, I found out that big block headers don't even come close to bolting up the intake I can only describe as a cross ram. The intake manifold looks like a cross ram, but won't bolt up to chevy small block. I've put a chevy distributor and carburetors on it. That's all that fits. Oh, chevy oil pans fit, but chevy valve covers dont fit. Will caddy covers fut?
I’ve got a 68 302, 73,000 mi owned 45 yrs 31 aug 21 was 22 when I bought it for $1,900.00 1/4 mile, 13.05 @ 115 , 7500 in 3rd, with 9” slicks L stock nat’l index 12.9 for L/STOCK IN 77-78! Ready to restore, lots of new parts etc.
Ha I want response back 2 c wt u think. I'm gifted playing with toys. Early 70s I bought a 69 z28 . It had a burnt valve. I took the 2o2 heads off put a set of 194 early double humps smaller chambers 62cc new valves 3 angled big springs done nice port job 2elebrock.single plane intake . Lot work top an down 750 Holley double pumper carb dual point distributor chevy phase 2 cam springs lifters hooker headers trust mufflers . 2 ring munchie r 2.52 1st munchie 4.88 gears trackson bars roller rockers Shafer clutch pressure plate race fan bullies. Under hood only thing u notice was intake. Do u think it run good. U bet ur sweet ass. Them aar cudas challengers 340 an 440 69 an 70 boss mustang's 302 an 351 gtos gtxs 454 chevelles lt1 Camaro wt ever on the street different places I was n ass kicking mode. Lol I'm a good driver means alot balls 2 the wall. The good ole days gone. That i94 ported heads on a 302 running on the street is the pig n the poke LOL. WISH SOMEBODY TRY THIS AN REPORT BACK.
My dad had the same car his had the painted bumpers and no consol 4 speed 4 wheel disc bought new from yenko dealership in canonsburg PA. Hes kicking him self for saling it
hard to get big money for them. I saw a 1 owner 69 Z with the factory disk brake setup that looked near new. Zero rust .he couldnt get 18K for it at the Zephyrhills auction in Fl
The rear stripes on this car are wrong also!! They should line up with the stripes on the hood! Not the edge of the rear window glass!! But still a very nice piece!!
You poor bastard, I'm in the process of building a 302 using a vortec block chevy and vortec 76cc heads. But being a somewhat decent mechanic who is a chevy guy, I'm planning on doing a 302 ci with twin turbo and fuel injection.
JL8 Disc rear end,should have been standard on every V8 Camaro / Trans Am muscle car! Trans Am had to wait until '78! I tell you even with a stock motor the 77 Trans Am I had sucked with rear drums!
I agree with some comments..x.77 cars had no chrome on welds and the cross ram was not on this car..it had a 780 Holley carb and 4bbl intake original..car would have been better with original stuff..no jl8 brakes either...it sounds good but no headers on stock z cars..too many non.stock items.r
anyone notice the tach shows a 6000 redline, when actual
Z-28 tachs have a 6500 redline ? both of mine were 6500.
i think this one might be a very well done clone.
Did you listen to the vid? Says special order 8k tach.
@@Micah-kbluezr as i re-watch the video, i can see its not a clone. mine did not have the cross ram manifold, or the rear disc brakes. they did have headers that i installed myself. i can't explain the discrepancy in tachs, both of mine had the yellow warning at 6200, and the redline at 6500 to 8000. all 69 Z-28's had the 8K tach, it was part of the Z-28 option package. the salesman is incorrect.
@@normhodgkinson6965 I believe copo cars have more options available. I'm jealous you've owned 2 lol I've never personally seen one in person.
The twin 4-barrel Holly's were just right for a cross-ram Z28. Keep in mind that the stock version of those crabs had vacuum secondaries, so most of the time you were actually running on 4 barrels... not 8. The secondaries on both carbs didn't open up unless you were really revving the motor. Hey, it's not a family car. It's a gas guzzling monster and man, what a sweet ride. This comment iscoming from a former owner of a '69 Z. Hottest car that I've ever owned, bar none.
Me too!!!
Nope. These cars were one of only 2 Chevys that had mechanical secondaries, not vacuum.
Negative. The Holleys used on the crossrams were double pumpers.
Wow! Talk about a chance viewing leading to a lengthy and enjoyable trip down memory lane. I was a freshman in college (GMI in Flint, Michigan) and one of my fraternity brothers had a father who was some sort of big shot at GM (they were somewhat common at GMI back then) and he had scored a 1967 Z28 in a company car resale. It was yellow with black stripes, a black vinyl interior, and a black vinyl top. I don't remember the carburetor, but it had headers. a fancy cowl intake cold air system, and a 2.20 first gear M22 Rockcrusher.
If it wasn't running, there was little to give indication as to its potential besides the stripes. There was no markings indicating the engine size and it didn't even have the little crest over the Camaro script on the front quarters that the cars with the basic 230 6 cylinder had. But there was no question when it was running. The cam had to be pretty radical, because the idle was rough and lumpy and high. And it was loud.
I enjoyed reading all the comments about people who had encountered or owned Z28s. I remember that this car was a real SOB to get off the line. The combination of the 2.20 low gear, the radical cam, and the high volume carburetor made it hard to launch, and even when you were successful, the results (initially through low gear) were less than stellar. It also didn't help that it almost took both legs to depress the clutch and the clutch was "grabby."
...But once you managed to launch and get the RPMs up, the car transformed into something mythical and magical. And (for it's time) it had a precision in handling that was unlike anything I'd ever experienced before. Winding trough small twisty back roads in Southeast Michigan in the fall was memorable now, and remains memorable even more than fifty years later.
So, what happened to this car? Damned if I know. But this fraternity brother apparently had a "silver spoon in his mouth" and it may have proved to be a disadvantage; because he never really "dug in" and washed out of GMI shortly after entering for grades. ...One of those cases where "being hungry" compensated for perhaps even being "the sharpest knife in the box" or "the guy with the coolest car." All I remember is the draft breathing down my neck with the promise of a scholarship to "Saigon U." if I didn't perform. I didn't need any additional inspiration or motivation for this short term goal.
this is wrong. Z stripes on a 69 in the rear are wider than the front.
I think I see a few things wrong with this car. The X77 Z28 did not come with the chrome style package and this car has it such as the chrome fender gills. Only the X33 Z's had those.
The oil fill tube is for a 1968 Z-28, not a 1969, which had the oil fill hole in the left valve cover, as this card does as well. Two oil fill holes on the same engine? Something seems amiss here.
Jeff: I have owned two 1969 Camaro Z/28s,both purchased new in 1969 at Rosenthal Chevrolet in Arlington,VA. Is your Z a late build? The reason I asked is because I don't recognize the primary gauges on your car. I,by no means, don't want to start a war with everyone that reads this I'm simply asking a question.
I think he said that they were COPO ordered.
@Boredout454 Very wrong. The 1969 Camaro Indy Pace Car came stock with the cowl hood. I purchased my second 1969 Z/28 in August '69 and it came to the dealership with the cowl hood [as an option ]. I'm sure you remember the 1970 Camaro went with a complete body change and the 302cuin engine was replaced with the 350cuin. There is no way a '69 cowl hood would fit a '70 Camaro.
My favorite Camaro ever made other than a 69 ZL-1 is a 69 Z28. Such a beautiful car
i find it strange there are 2 oil fill locations on the engine. i thought only the 67-68 302's had the "tube" style oil filler..
Such BS out there.🙄
@@joeyramirez6355 yep, and some sucker ended up laying down 6 figures for a car that is not even period correct.
Rear disc brakes & dual 4 barrel cabs?? I dont think so.
That manifold & carbs look brand new aftermarket...
Never seen a z28 with those options and I've never heard ANYONE TALK ABOUT IT...
Dan Perron in Charleston, SC bought a 1967 X-Ram, dual-4 barrel, chambered exhaust Z/28 and turned it into a M/E drag car named 'LITTLE HERO' that ran 10.30 @ 3299 Lbs with a 287 cid SBC
My cross ram was not as nice as this one, but it was pretty cool. Had it in 2000 and most of my parts came from Rick's Camaro's . The air filter back then was $500 for a reproduction. Changed it to a single four barrel and was more manageable on the street.
Your prices are way to high
That price was from 2011. It sold for $100,000.00
One of my favorite car's of all time!!👍👍😎
Jeff....I miss your presentations and post. You are a true American muscle car enthusiast
I wouldn't spend a penny on a radio in that car! I had 2 and don't even know if the radios worked!
Now I beg to differ with the guy that said these cars were slow off the line I had the pleasure of riding in the one my aunts husband had and he worked at a GM plant anyway she drove that thing like a bat out of hell and kicked many mustangs and even other cars with larger displacements ass on the streets so I'm sorry bruh I gotta disagree with you on that one the way that thing pulled you would have swore it was a big block powered car.
Anything thats period correct is worth more these cars are strictly investment show cars!!! And the Z28 is an awesome muscle car!!! Better looking than the corvette as far as im concerned!!!
Not only better looking than the Corvette, but the nicest Camaro ever built. I can say this as I have had a 1969 Z/28, 302,4 speed and I wish I had it back now. Compared to todays car's, In a heart beat! No pun intended. LOL!Check out my vid,( Entering an Oklahoma freeway). 05 GMC short wide sierra.
I have had two friends who had these Z-28's brand new in 1969. The x-ram and the headers were not installed by the factory or the dealers. When the cars were delivered the manifold and headers were in the trunk. Not one of these cars had headers installed from the factory.
I know it's been over 3 yrs ago since you posted, but everyone already knows that the cross ram ( it's NOT an "x ram" ) intake & headers not installed at the factory & came in the trunk only on special order. For crying out loud, in this video the man said QUOTE: "These units were NEVER installed at the factory, they were special ordered dealer installed options only". And YES, the dealers WOULD install them, but of course it was cheaper to install them yourself. But don't sit there & make the bullshit claim as if "NO dealer would install these parts, they simply refused". ANY dealer that you bought this car from, special ordered with the cross ram, duel 4 bbl's, and headers would install them IF you were willing to pay for it. I had friends that owned these cars too, bought brand new. One had them dealer installed.......the other installed them himself at his buddy's shop, with his help.
Absolutely Outstanding
Those taillights are incorrect.
I noticed that also!
That is a gorgeous car.My fav Camaro ever made is a 69 Z/28. Thats exactly the way id want it NOS parts used and/or original restored parts.Nice price for a cross ram car also :D
@thewhox56
Yes, they were either dealer installed or installed by the owner. Never from the factory.
Chevy had to make them available for racing purposes ;-)
My machinist bought one(single carb) in the mid 70’s in high school, said it was a beast...
LOL, "302 C.I. rated @465 hp!"...really?
Stock 302 made around 405 at the crank....add the intake, exhaust, headers and I can see 450 but NOT factory rated...
Factory rated 290
I think 2 4 barrels is too much gas for a 302 regardless of the cam but that car is super are with that system-- nice paint too
Did not come from the factory with duel carbs, that was an over the counter item sold by Chevy.
Hey Jeff, I love this Z. Very nice but I would highly recommend fixing that vacuum line that goes to the brake booster. Not a hater just noticed. Tight pinch on vac is never good. Keep up the good work.
I heard somewhere that the cross ram came from the factory in the trunk.
Is it my imagination or does this guy sound like Obama? I'm talking about his voice only, not political views. The difference is he's not selling us a load of crap!
***** Oh no...call off the dogs! Actually, they will only come around if there's money to be made.
pddevilbiss yes he his selling it 😂
He sounds like Osama(woooops!I mean Obama)hope the announcer doesn't have to get therapy because of our comments.
I'm having trouble getting a chevy intake or chevy exhaust manifolds that bolt up. Did Pontiac. Buick or Cadillac or Corvette have something that bolts up? I pulled these heads from a Camaro, but there was no intake manifold, I found out that big block headers don't even come close to bolting up the intake I can only describe as a cross ram. The intake manifold looks like a cross ram, but won't bolt up to chevy small block. I've put a chevy distributor and carburetors on it. That's all that fits. Oh, chevy oil pans fit, but chevy valve covers dont fit. Will caddy covers fut?
I’ve got a 68 302, 73,000 mi owned 45 yrs 31 aug 21 was 22 when I bought it for $1,900.00
1/4 mile, 13.05 @ 115 , 7500 in 3rd, with 9” slicks L stock nat’l index 12.9 for L/STOCK IN 77-78!
Ready to restore, lots of new parts etc.
Ha I want response back 2 c wt u think. I'm gifted playing with toys. Early 70s I bought a 69 z28 . It had a burnt valve. I took the 2o2 heads off put a set of 194 early double humps smaller chambers 62cc new valves 3 angled big springs done nice port job 2elebrock.single plane intake . Lot work top an down 750 Holley double pumper carb dual point distributor chevy phase 2 cam springs lifters hooker headers trust mufflers . 2 ring munchie r 2.52 1st munchie 4.88 gears trackson bars roller rockers Shafer clutch pressure plate race fan bullies. Under hood only thing u notice was intake. Do u think it run good. U bet ur sweet ass. Them aar cudas challengers 340 an 440 69 an 70 boss mustang's 302 an 351 gtos gtxs 454 chevelles lt1 Camaro wt ever on the street different places I was n ass kicking mode. Lol I'm a good driver means alot balls 2 the wall. The good ole days gone. That i94 ported heads on a 302 running on the street is the pig n the poke LOL. WISH SOMEBODY TRY THIS AN REPORT BACK.
Love that car. Would cost more than my house!
My favorite car in the world.
great video Jeff. amazing car.
WOW!!!!! F*CK YEA!!! Not a fan of the color, but what a machine!!!
Hey Jeff whats the price?
Is it still available
Sounds terrible.
My dad had the same car his had the painted bumpers and no consol 4 speed 4 wheel disc bought new from yenko dealership in canonsburg PA. Hes kicking him self for saling it
Beautiful car
Dream Machine
Speechless !!!
hard to get big money for them. I saw a 1 owner 69 Z with the factory disk brake setup that looked near new. Zero rust .he couldnt get 18K for it at the Zephyrhills auction in Fl
lol suuuuuuuuuuuuuure
@@jesselee4405 Ill get you pics,, We had 3 indy 500 cars, One big block actually used in a race pace, and it only got mid 20's. and it was mint
@@91rss No kidding. That's truly amazing. I would have jumped on that without delay
My next of the woods: losangeles.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=camaro+1969
Literal piles of dump going for 15G
My Uncles 1969 Z28 302 4spd stage 2 solid lifter cam.
It was very fast!!
@EliteComputerBuilds
We don't take in outside resto jobs. We can barely keep up with our cars for sale.
Thanks for checking out the vid's!!
OK, so what's the toggle switch in the trunk lid for??
Gorgeous!
It would be more authentic if it had an 8 Track
is it wrong to have a bonner whn you started that beast ?
Do NOT like the green.
I prefer the 1968 Z-28.
I Prefer, red, yellow, blue.
Wrong alternator bracket.
Afraid to ask but how much?Know worth every pennny !!!
@masterkorp
No, it's required! ;-) Better than Viagra!
@Boredout454 Thanks for your reply it's nice to get a friendly one every now and then.
This Z-28 is so perfect it is wrong! Man what I'd give to own it.
@MrRueruerue1367
ok, I will check it out, thanks!
jiminy cricket that's nice
Nice and rare but fix the brake light switch
Nice
@jpo2084028 Thanks. You are correct. This car was a COPO ordered car with 140 mph speedo and other distinctions.
Ha!! Real car guy...
Why are the tail lights on?
lol....yes he does......
@Boredout454 Wrong.
Finally some one that got the rear stripes right!
Got the rear stripes right?
The rear stripes on this car are wrong also!! They should line up with the stripes on the hood! Not the edge of the rear window glass!! But still a very nice piece!!
The cross ram option makes it even rarer..... A true 💎 gem❤👌👌👌💪💪💪👍👍👍☝☝☝☝🇺🇸
It was not an option, you had to get it from Chevy dealers parts dept.
The best z28 I have ever seen.
You need to get out moore.
@XboobtubeX Flappers on cowl induction Chevrolet products was not released until 1970 no never.
@XboobtubeX Those were only on the 1970 - 71 Chevelles. Its just a good old cowl induction.
You poor bastard, I'm in the process of building a 302 using a vortec block chevy and vortec 76cc heads. But being a somewhat decent mechanic who is a chevy guy, I'm planning on doing a 302 ci with twin turbo and fuel injection.
Why oh why did they keep those ugly bumper guards on this car?
If that's what the car came with when new, then they should be retained to keep it factory original. That's why.
@@HiTechOilCo I'm sure those bumper guards didn't have to come with the car. And they're still ugly.
Where's the smog pump?
It's dumb to run duel carburetors on the street.
Wrong my brother 66 vette had a cross ram
@@427bullis You shouldn't talk about your brother like that.
Not that fast had one zl11le will smoke it
JL8 Disc rear end,should have been standard on every V8 Camaro / Trans Am muscle car! Trans Am had to wait until '78! I tell you even with a stock motor the 77 Trans Am I had sucked with rear drums!