It's clear Laci knew Scott was a cheat but she might have thought after they were married he would change. I think Scott enjoyed the way Laci loved him. She cooked, cleaned and took care of him. Scott continued being Scott and once she got pregnant it was over for him. Connor was going to be the center of all the family and Laci's attention, she also would want Scott home more. If he got a divorce the thought of having to pay alimony to Laci and Conner I believe would be unimaginable for Scott. This was a man who spent lots of money on his mistresses...wine, dozens of roses, dinner, drinks, hotel rooms. There would be no way for him to continue paying, not to mention his favorite pass time was golfing at a country club. Everything he was doing cost a lot of money. I think in his sick mind getting rid of Laci and Conner was his only option to continue his fantasy life style. I say fantasy because he wanted to be that guy who travels the world and is not held down by any one person.
My thing is this: I do not believe that a woman would leave the house and leave the door unlocked. When I go walking, I lock the door and my keys are with me. When Peterson got home, the door was unlocked and Laci's keys were still there with her purse. Hard to believe she ever left the house.
Scott killed Laci and just left things where they were instead of trying to get rid of her things. I'm just so glad that storm we had was so harsh it brought Laci and Connor up to the surface, otherwise he would be walking among us.
@@rhondapowell3054 I agree with this. However what if burglars entered their unlocked home while she was in it & threatened her with the gun they had just stolen from the neighbors that same morning as they were canvassing the entire neighborhood. Maybe they saw Scott leave & thought he was gone for the day. There’s also a guy who knew at least 1 of the alleged 5 burglars who said Laci confronted the burglars at the neighbors when she saw them. If either circumstance happened, she likely didn’t lock her door behind her.
@@VivAnn1121 it’s funny you happen to know for sure those 2 things are fact…because they were NEVER proven. Multiple witnesses said they saw three dark skinned individuals next to a van outside the Peterson home that morning of the 24th… (the two burglars arrested were white) a police informant who named the two men arrested, said there was more than two people involved. And even Susan Medina, the neighbor burglarized thinks for sure the burglary happened on the 24th for her own reasons. In fact, Judge Hill literally just approved Scott’s lawyers to have access to many pieces of evidence surrounding the burglary because she’s not sure the burglary was only 2 people & on the 26th. She agrees it should be investigated again. Period.
When I saw the picture of the fishing gear that Scott said he was using to fish for stergeon I knew he was guilty. The fishing gear was light tackle for freshwater fish not the heavy rods and reels that are needed for huge and heavy stergeon.
He should have just been honest. He went there with his new boat to dick around for a little while. But he can't help himself. He is a pathological liar
He was in a lake boat. It didn't even belong in salt water. There are so many lakes near Modesto, but for "some reason" he wanted to take it 90 miles out from his home and fish for Sturgeon that...even if he was lucky to catch one, wouldn't even fit in his boat. Those fish are really big! Scott Peterson is a LIAR!!
@@motocatz87 That is very interesting information that should be considered - it shows that his explanation makes absolutely no sense to somebody who knows his fishing, both in fresh water and in salt water - in which he allegedly fished for sturgeon, apparently a fish of such great size that he would have had problems getting it into his small boat. Now this isn't evidence, but it is a plausible explanation that his alibi is just a lot of rubbish.
Who leaves texts and phone messages you don't expect an answer to, and don't wait for any to, unless you already know that the person is no longer alive and can't answer because you killed them? And I believe he killed her the night before. She never was on the computer that morning, it was Scott. He simply accessed her account to make it look like it was her. I have some of those online ordering accounts on my computer and they could easily be accessed by someone pretending to be me while browsing or putting items in a 'cart' online. Doubtless, that's what he did.
Ridiculous. I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell you. This is a waste of time. The poor woman and her unborn child got in his way. He is guilty, boys. Sorry.
So he drives 90 mins hooks the boat, gets a ticket, checks e-mails, spends 90mins on the boat...Does he ever try to reach his very pregnant wife during these hours ? 🙄🤔
Totally agree that the rationalization of EVERYTHING to do with the boat & the hairs consistent with Laci's hair in the pliers points to Scott's guilt -in the face of the fact that the bodies ended up washing up almost in the exact area Scott was boating in , in a boat pretty much noone knew he owned and that he paid cash for a few days after lying to AMBER that he had LOST his wife and it was the first Xmas he would be spending without her ! He says this almost 2 weeks before she actually went missing !! Like WTF ?? The fact that he supposedly went fishing last minute and lied to a few people and said he went Golfing , when he actually got a fishing license ahead of time on Dec 20th , good for only Dec 23 and 24-says a lot ! Apparently the last time this guy ever got a fishing license was in 1994 0r 1997 . . And who goes fishing out of the blue on a cold rainy day ALONE last minute like this or even planned on Christmas EVE, INCOGNITO , when you have plans with the family and errands to run that your 8 month preggers wife has asked you to do ( pick up a gift basket for Papa ) and when your wife is definitely not feeling the best ( this is well documented by her Doctor , friends and yoga teacher ) ??? Laci would have most likely spoken about the boat to her family and friends if she knew about it ! The theory about the so called flimsy boat unable to hold Scott and Laci is ridiculous . Tall , big beer bellied Men go out on the water with their "fishing buddies" in boats like this all the time . Laci is only a 5 ft 1 , 153 pound woman , so that BS theory makes no sense ! Lastly obviously he picked the best day he could have to commit this act and dispose of the body . Almost Noone is out on the bay " Fishing " on a very cold , rainy Xmas eve , so it was indeed the best time to dispose of the body in the daytime . Another thing -if I am not mistaken , LE pretty fast got a search warrent for the house and Scott's warehouse , and pretty fast they found pretty compelling evidence hat it appeared he made between 4-5 homemade anchors , yet they could only account for 1 anchor , which was supposedly used for the fishing trip to the bay , yet it was missing any kind of rope and he denied making any more anchors and instead he used the rest of the 90 pound bag of cement for his driveway-which they later tested and said was not consistent with the type of cement from the 90 pound bag . So where did the rest of the cement go ? . The main take away about these " Anchors and cement " is LE predicted right from the beginning that Scott weighed her down with those 4 anchors they believed he made with that 90 pound cement bag and there really is no other logical way she managed to wash up 4 months later missing her limbs ( and head ) and in such a decomposed way and yet Connor was relatively in tact . They knew she was in that bay right from the get go and thats the only reason Scott kept making secretive trips to the bay in rental cars -to see if they were looking where he dumped her and if they would find her ! Otherwise , why wasn't he helping more in the searches and present ? It's clear she was anchored probably with 4 anchors, 1 on each limb . There's only one person we know for sure who went out on the same bay on the same day she went missing and its almost exactly where she ended up washing up on the shore decomposed and missing her limbs consistent with being anchored on each limb !! Anyone who thinks Scott is innocent after doing a deep dive -needs their head seriously examined .
Correction - all fishermen claim Scott was full of sh*t. He didn’t have proper lures and was in a small boat generally used in fresh water, not the San Francisco Bay
Yes! Along with over 1100 items entered into evidence against SP. It's ridiculous anyone tries to claim, 'There was no evidence.' Over 1100 items will never be considered no evidence on any planet.
Not all fishermen. The guy at the bay who worked on boats said boats like Scott’s could and would be used for fishing. He also told police he just wanted to test the boat in the water since he’d never used it since purchasing.
His cell was picked up by the cell tower near the house at 10:08 am. Servas put the dog back in at 10:18. Laci’s were found in the house. She didn’t leave voluntarily and he didn’t leave at 9:30 as he claimed.
Laci's StepDad was such an avid fisherman that he actually kept fishing rods in his vehicle and he didn't require a cheap " freshwater fishing boat " or need to drive 90 miles out to go to a saltwater ocean bay to fish . He literally fished within a few miles of his home ! Big difference .
I doubt Scott knew that. That was his first fishing trip alone. He could not name the bate he used and said he's fishing for sturgeon. He is a beginner and fishes for a huge fish. Yeah...nah.
I enjoy listening to this dynamic duo. Scott didn't HAVE to sell Laci's car to get himself another truck. He knew she would not be back. When he was finally arrested he had come up with that red car and 15 grand on him🤔
I obviously know too little about this case to be able to follow all the details, and certainly not enough to come to a conclusion whether he was guilty or not, but some of the comments below from experienced fishermen in which they explain that he couldn't even have fished for sturgeon with the rods he had, let alone pull one of those massive fish onto his small boat, seem to be very plausible and damning in his case because it makes his alibi seem concocted and even ridiculous.
There are huge problems with the statements from so called witnesses who see Laci with black trousers on. Because she was not found with that colour on the waist band when the torso was washed up. Secondly she'd have to be barefoot because her walking shoes were at home . Police established there were other pregnant women with dogs in the area at the time. Some of these witnesses are bored people who simply want to be famous. NB if you murder someone at home at night and then dump them somewhere else you might well forget to put their outside shoes on before you do the removal. Finally by Scot's own admission her keys were in the house and the door was open. It sounds as if he 's thinking of a story that she was snatched from the house because if she was out with the dog, then she must have locked the door if she left after he did - which is what he says. At this point, he has no idea that a convenient burglary is about to happen but only in a 50 hour window of time. The neighbour who was burgled could have been burgled any time from about 11am onwards on 24th, on the 25th or on the 26th. The police say the 26th December but that's based on what the criminals told them. Most burglars do not operate in the middle of the day. There are exceptions but that's the general rule. Scott initially tells people he's going to go golfing . Then he goes out on the bay. He then tells someone he went fishing. He 's go the receipt to prove it. Finally when the LE get involved he sticks to the fishing story. He likely told the golf story because it was a windy cold day and going fishing would make no sense to those of Laci's family he told firstup. Also Ron was a fisherman , Scott does not want Ron G to come along. When he's out at the warehouse he cuts himself on the hand while messing around with assembling a router machine. This is highly convenient if he cut himself earlier and wants and alibi for a cut. So there's no rush about going fishing even though it is an hr and a half at least away from Modesto. When he gets back he sees Laci is missing because the keys have been left behind (give him benefit of doubt) and rings the Rochas immediately without ringing Laci's phone to check where she might be. Now that's strange, she went out presumably on foot or in a friend's car without her keys and purse but she did take her phone. The door is left unlocked - he says. That's unprovable. it seems highly inconsistent. However he's already rung Laci's phone - alibi call- on the way back from the fishing trip. It of course goes unanswered. It's Ron Granski who rings the LE, not Scott. Rather than leaving the boat cover on the boat out in the warehouse , he brings it back home and puts it in the garden shed where it gets saturated in Gasoline in a pseudo accident . It is therefore useless forensically. What a chain of coincidences and inconsistencies and we are only about 7 hrs in. TEF
I was pregnant at the same time she was, I was high risk. My ex-husband was always running out the door no matter what the day, so idk I don’t think it’s really that odd for him to leave on Christmas Eve Morning
You stated the Modesto Police did a "fantastic job". I would disagree. The manager of Scotts' warehouse said Lacy was there with the boat and Det. Brochini left it out of his report. The Aponte tape was given to the Modesto police and it disappeared . And the van that was seen by Diane Jackson, which she saw Lacy with the men had a mattress with blood on it and set on fire a mile from lacys house, which the police never tested! So where exactly is this "fabulous job" that the Police did??
@@paulphillips684 you’re totally correct. Not only did the police do a ridiculously horrible job and have often been accused of corruption (witnesses have recently said they fear police retaliation if they speak about this case, etc), but apparently the prosecutor habitually commits prosecutorial misconduct as well. Judge Hill essentially just agreed October 7, 2024 that Scott’s team was denied loads of evidence they should’ve had for the past 20 years that they were never given access to surrounding the burglary, the missing lieutenant Aponte tape, and the burned van/bloody mattress evidence. It’s literally appalling this type of thing happened on a case when the entire world was watching. I can’t understand how people can still defend the police investigation or the prosecution’s actions at this at this point. Most of all, Laci’s mother should be downright furious with them - because of the fact that they dropped the ball either purposefully or accidentally (which doesn’t matter in the eyes of the Brady law) it could mean that Scott has a chance to be released. If he really did kill Laci, that would be devastating. And it would be all the fault of the prosecutor/police for the multiple Brady violations.
Not a fantastic job, but a good enough job. Your facts are off. Laci didn't see the boat. Here's the report from a neighboring occupant (not sure if it's the manager) of the warehouse building. "O’Donnell explained that Laci had used the bathroom in her warehouse unit on Dec. 20th or 23rd. The police thought this was to prevent Laci from seeing Scott’s boat. Further, the warehouse was so full it was difficult to get to the bathroom in Scott’s warehouse." A diagram of the warehouse showed the shop was jammed packed with pallets and other equipment. A very pregnant woman would not want to climb through all that to get to the bathroom. Did you even try to see the diagram? Moving on, Diane Jackson first said the van was white, then tan or brown. The van that burned was orange and was a mile away. She also said she saw it at 11:40 but the loose dog was seen at 10:18; the van wasn't seen. She also said there were 3 short, dark skinned burglars, but there were only 2 white guys who did it. It's easy to get fooled by the conspiracy theorists and their documentaries, until you look at the fine details that the police looked at.
@@harryprice6019 Paul's facts are not off. I've researched this case for years and I literally have copies of all the recent motions submitted to Judge Hill this year. Much evidence proves Laci was aware of the boat. First of all, Laci's stepfather Ron said in his testimony that most of the conversations he ever had with Scott (in Laci's presence) was about fishing and how he wished he had a boat because he didn't own one - he only had a float for fishing. When Scott told police the boat was meant to be a Christmas morning surprise for Ron to be able to use when he wanted, and he could go fishing with Ron and his new son... they didn't believe this, but Ron's own testimony and other evidence actually shows this could have been true. Scott paid for the boat with money from a joint bank account he shared with Laci - not a private account to hide the expense. Secondly, as you mentioned, the warehouse neighbor said Laci was there on December 23rd to use her bathroom, which coincided with what Scott had told police from start... that Laci had come to see the boat on the 23rd. Who knows the reason she used the bathroom - whether she THOUGHT it was blocked, or she didn't want to be near any chemicals, etc. As if all that weren't enough to prove Laci knew about the boat, there's physical evidence that still exists which has been submitted to the judge. Police found post-its that were near Laci's computer that were clearly pricing out anchors from two different marine stores in Modesto. The handwriting on the post its matches the same ink and handwriting of Laci's grocery lists found in her purse. I've seen it myself. When compared alongside Scott's handwriting, it doesn't match - it makes sense it would be Laci's. This both offers proof Laci both knew about the boat AND she was helping Scott with this surprise for Ron's use...and it also explains why Scott made anchors. He told police they discovered an anchor would be as much as $50 and the one thing the previous boat owner did not sell Scott was an anchor. The man who sold Scott the boat confirmed this - he kept the anchor because it was new and he wanted to keep using it. Scott already had cement in his warehouse, and used it often for work and home projects, so he says he used that to create one anchor. And the Diane sighting was more about the multiple shady characters seen outside the Peterson home unaccounted for. You do know that criminals don't work alone, right? Multiple vans can be used by a criminal network of multiple criminals, which is very typical. Gangs don't only use all one vehicle. Multiple witnesses saw shady characters outside the Peterson's neighbors in the same timeframe Laci went missing which was the same time of another crime...which is weird. And wasn't just Diane Jackson who mentioned the 3 dark skinned individuals, it was also another neighbor named Linda Chilles who is the widow of a Modesto Police Detective. Her statement is also in the recent motion. And to your point - the 3 dark skinned individuals don't match the description of the two men who took the fall. Meaning, they didn't work alone. Were you aware that the police informant (who turned those 2 white men into police to begin with) stated that at least 3 men were involved in the burglary. Who is that other man, and who were the other 3 dark skinned individuals multiple people saw? You also have to remember that word on the street within the crime network from the Airport District was that Steven Todd got into a verbal altercation with Laci the morning of her disappearance. Why would that rumor even exist among the inmates in the crime ring? Likely because multiple men were there who witnessed it. Also, this wasn't just any burglary. $30,000 in cash was taken from a safe which was never accounted for even after police arrested the two men. Multiple g*ns were stolen. Bizarrely, anonymous man turned in one of the weapons at the police station the day after both white men got arrested. Why turn that in? Were they afraid they'd trace that weapon back to a crime? That's not even getting into the watch pawned down the street days after Laci disappeared that matched the description of Laci's watch, pawned by a woman who was in the same crime ring as one of the burglars. Anyone who overlooks all of these items has blinders on. All of these things should have been properly and fully investigated and shown to the defense with plenty of time to show the jury. I'm not saying he's innocent, but even I can admit this is weird.
It's a real puzzle tbh. What do you think of the theory that a serial killer framed Scott? Outlandish I know, but there's a doc on it. Will post if i find it again.
@@sophie8394 it's crazy anyone gives the EWE theory a second thought, right? Even crazier is. . . anyone believing a so-called 'documentary' backed by the killers family.
It's clear Laci knew Scott was a cheat but she might have thought after they were married he would change. I think Scott enjoyed the way Laci loved him. She cooked, cleaned and took care of him. Scott continued being Scott and once she got pregnant it was over for him. Connor was going to be the center of all the family and Laci's attention, she also would want Scott home more. If he got a divorce the thought of having to pay alimony to Laci and Conner I believe would be unimaginable for Scott. This was a man who spent lots of money on his mistresses...wine, dozens of roses, dinner, drinks, hotel rooms. There would be no way for him to continue paying, not to mention his favorite pass time was golfing at a country club. Everything he was doing cost a lot of money. I think in his sick mind getting rid of Laci and Conner was his only option to continue his fantasy life style. I say fantasy because he wanted to be that guy who travels the world and is not held down by any one person.
He's held down in his prison cell.
@@margaretmorgan1551 face down or face up ??
TEF
Finally yes he was the "Golden Boy". He did not want competition he regressed to a 9 yr old narcissist socio path psycho
lacy and connor show up dead in the exact same bay that Scott went fishing to obvious he is fcking Guilty
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You don't need more than 7 minutes to determine what happened. If you do, you need a second head.
lol
A much smarter second head.
still no evidence.........
@roseaugatzke7877 lol. You think if you keep saying that, it'll become true. LMAO. Over 1100 items entered into evidence says otherwise.
My thing is this: I do not believe that a woman would leave the house and leave the door unlocked. When I go walking, I lock the door and my keys are with me. When Peterson got home, the door was unlocked and Laci's keys were still there with her purse. Hard to believe she ever left the house.
She didn't leave the house. Not alive anyway.
Scott killed Laci and just left things where they were instead of trying to get rid of her things. I'm just so glad that storm we had was so harsh it brought Laci and Connor up to the surface, otherwise he would be walking among us.
@@rhondapowell3054 I agree with this. However what if burglars entered their unlocked home while she was in it & threatened her with the gun they had just stolen from the neighbors that same morning as they were canvassing the entire neighborhood. Maybe they saw Scott leave & thought he was gone for the day.
There’s also a guy who knew at least 1 of the alleged 5 burglars who said Laci confronted the burglars at the neighbors when she saw them.
If either circumstance happened, she likely didn’t lock her door behind her.
@@truecrimemattersthere weren’t five robbers, and the burglary wasn’t on the 24th
@@VivAnn1121 it’s funny you happen to know for sure those 2 things are fact…because they were NEVER proven. Multiple witnesses said they saw three dark skinned individuals next to a van outside the Peterson home that morning of the 24th… (the two burglars arrested were white) a police informant who named the two men arrested, said there was more than two people involved. And even Susan Medina, the neighbor burglarized thinks for sure the burglary happened on the 24th for her own reasons.
In fact, Judge Hill literally just approved Scott’s lawyers to have access to many pieces of evidence surrounding the burglary because she’s not sure the burglary was only 2 people & on the 26th. She agrees it should be investigated again. Period.
If he'd confessed an affair, Laci would've thought the fishing trip was a mistress trip. She wouldn't have allowed it.
good point
When I saw the picture of the fishing gear that Scott said he was using to fish for stergeon I knew he was guilty. The fishing gear was light tackle for freshwater fish not the heavy rods and reels that are needed for huge and heavy stergeon.
Yes, I agree. How can anyone even play with the idea of him being innocent, when it's so obvious he's guilty???
He should have just been honest. He went there with his new boat to dick around for a little while. But he can't help himself. He is a pathological liar
He was in a lake boat. It didn't even belong in salt water. There are so many lakes near Modesto, but for "some reason" he wanted to take it 90 miles out from his home and fish for Sturgeon that...even if he was lucky to catch one, wouldn't even fit in his boat. Those fish are really big! Scott Peterson is a LIAR!!
@@motocatz87
That is very interesting information that should be considered - it shows that his explanation makes absolutely no sense to somebody who knows his fishing, both in fresh water and in salt water - in which he allegedly fished for sturgeon, apparently a fish of such great size that he would have had problems getting it into his small boat. Now this isn't evidence, but it is a plausible explanation that his alibi is just a lot of rubbish.
In California, a person does not have to be missing for 24-48 hours. Never let any California’s agency tell you that.
Who leaves texts and phone messages you don't expect an answer to, and don't wait for any to, unless you already know that the person is no longer alive and can't answer because you killed them? And I believe he killed her the night before. She never was on the computer that morning, it was Scott. He simply accessed her account to make it look like it was her. I have some of those online ordering accounts on my computer and they could easily be accessed by someone pretending to be me while browsing or putting items in a 'cart' online. Doubtless, that's what he did.
Ridiculous. I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell you. This is a waste of time. The poor woman and her unborn child got in his way. He is guilty, boys. Sorry.
Totally 💯 agree.
So he drives 90 mins hooks the boat, gets a ticket, checks e-mails, spends 90mins on the boat...Does he ever try to reach his very pregnant wife during these hours ? 🙄🤔
Why bother? He murdered her.
That just makes him an a hole, not a murderer
@@janlundberg5924the “totality of the (circumstantial) evidence”, makes him the murderer. Can’t escape it.
He called her on the way home and left a phony message about picking up a basket for Papa.
He probably went fishing to get away from her.
And what about the plastic bags and ropes found in the vehicle. 10s of 1000s in cash. Map of Amber's area. No regard for human life.
I thought he intended to kill A
mber also. If the affair with her came out to the police that would be the motive for killing Laci.
24 hr period does not count if you are a vulnerable person . As she was pregnant, she was a vulnerable person.
Totally agree that the rationalization of EVERYTHING to do with the boat & the hairs consistent with Laci's hair in the pliers points to Scott's guilt -in the face of the fact that the bodies ended up washing up almost in the exact area Scott was boating in , in a boat pretty much noone knew he owned and that he paid cash for a few days after lying to AMBER that he had LOST his wife and it was the first Xmas he would be spending without her ! He says this almost 2 weeks before she actually went missing !! Like WTF ?? The fact that he supposedly went fishing last minute and lied to a few people and said he went Golfing , when he actually got a fishing license ahead of time on Dec 20th , good for only Dec 23 and 24-says a lot ! Apparently the last time this guy ever got a fishing license was in 1994 0r 1997 . . And who goes fishing out of the blue on a cold rainy day ALONE last minute like this or even planned on Christmas EVE, INCOGNITO , when you have plans with the family and errands to run that your 8 month preggers wife has asked you to do ( pick up a gift basket for Papa ) and when your wife is definitely not feeling the best ( this is well documented by her Doctor , friends and yoga teacher ) ??? Laci would have most likely spoken about the boat to her family and friends if she knew about it ! The theory about the so called flimsy boat unable to hold Scott and Laci is ridiculous . Tall , big beer bellied Men go out on the water with their "fishing buddies" in boats like this all the time . Laci is only a 5 ft 1 , 153 pound woman , so that BS theory makes no sense ! Lastly obviously he picked the best day he could have to commit this act and dispose of the body . Almost Noone is out on the bay " Fishing " on a very cold , rainy Xmas eve , so it was indeed the best time to dispose of the body in the daytime . Another thing -if I am not mistaken , LE pretty fast got a search warrent for the house and Scott's warehouse , and pretty fast they found pretty compelling evidence hat it appeared he made between 4-5 homemade anchors , yet they could only account for 1 anchor , which was supposedly used for the fishing trip to the bay , yet it was missing any kind of rope and he denied making any more anchors and instead he used the rest of the 90 pound bag of cement for his driveway-which they later tested and said was not consistent with the type of cement from the 90 pound bag . So where did the rest of the cement go ? . The main take away about these " Anchors and cement " is LE predicted right from the beginning that Scott weighed her down with those 4 anchors they believed he made with that 90 pound cement bag and there really is no other logical way she managed to wash up 4 months later missing her limbs ( and head ) and in such a decomposed way and yet Connor was relatively in tact . They knew she was in that bay right from the get go and thats the only reason Scott kept making secretive trips to the bay in rental cars -to see if they were looking where he dumped her and if they would find her ! Otherwise , why wasn't he helping more in the searches and present ? It's clear she was anchored probably with 4 anchors, 1 on each limb . There's only one person we know for sure who went out on the same bay on the same day she went missing and its almost exactly where she ended up washing up on the shore decomposed and missing her limbs consistent with being anchored on each limb !! Anyone who thinks Scott is innocent after doing a deep dive -needs their head seriously examined .
Cheating doesn’t make him a murderer. They’d say that about Chris Watts if he hadn’t confessed.
Correction - all fishermen claim Scott was full of sh*t. He didn’t have proper lures and was in a small boat generally used in fresh water, not the San Francisco Bay
Yes! Along with over 1100 items entered into evidence against SP. It's ridiculous anyone tries to claim, 'There was no evidence.' Over 1100 items will never be considered no evidence on any planet.
And Scott the beginner said he fished for Sturgeon, a huge fish.
Not all fishermen. The guy at the bay who worked on boats said boats like Scott’s could and would be used for fishing. He also told police he just wanted to test the boat in the water since he’d never used it since purchasing.
@truecrimematters if he just wanted to test the boat, he didn't have to drive 90 miles.
@@truecrimematters
Are you one of the delusional ppl who thinks he's innocent?
His cell was picked up by the cell tower near the house at 10:08 am. Servas put the dog back in at 10:18. Laci’s were found in the house. She didn’t leave voluntarily and he didn’t leave at 9:30 as he claimed.
Laci's StepDad was such an avid fisherman that he actually kept fishing rods in his vehicle and he didn't require a cheap " freshwater fishing boat " or need to drive 90 miles out to go to a saltwater ocean bay to fish . He literally fished within a few miles of his home ! Big difference .
Rainy wet weather IS often when U want 2 go fishing because in those conditions most fish R biting better. Just a friendly FYI!!
I doubt Scott knew that. That was his first fishing trip alone. He could not name the bate he used and said he's fishing for sturgeon. He is a beginner and fishes for a huge fish. Yeah...nah.
yeah he sure caught a big one that day!
I enjoy listening to this dynamic duo. Scott didn't HAVE to sell Laci's car to get himself another truck. He knew she would not be back. When he was finally arrested he had come up with that red car and 15 grand on him🤔
Right! Back then, 15grand could get you a fabulous car!
Typical innocence fraud bs.its disgusting and evil those who are crapping on all these victims familys by shilling for dispicable people like scott
And he heard the message from Ron asking Lacey to pick up Cool whip, That's when he calls Ron back because he thought Lacey was over there
Think they were struggling with money, and they were just about to have a baby. Everyone is trying to save money when you are having a baby
I obviously know too little about this case to be able to follow all the details, and certainly not enough to come to a conclusion whether he was guilty or not, but some of the comments below from experienced fishermen in which they explain that he couldn't even have fished for sturgeon with the rods he had, let alone pull one of those massive fish onto his small boat, seem to be very plausible and damning in his case because it makes his alibi seem concocted and even ridiculous.
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I am so sickof the Kachava commercials
There are huge problems with the statements from so called witnesses who see Laci with black trousers on. Because she was not found with that colour on the waist band when the torso was washed up. Secondly she'd have to be barefoot because her walking shoes were at home . Police established there were other pregnant women with dogs in the area at the time. Some of these witnesses are bored people who simply want to be famous. NB if you murder someone at home at night and then dump them somewhere else you might well forget to put their outside shoes on before you do the removal.
Finally by Scot's own admission her keys were in the house and the door was open. It sounds as if he 's thinking of a story that she was snatched from the house because if she was out with the dog, then she must have locked the door if she left after he did - which is what he says. At this point, he has no idea that a convenient burglary is about to happen but only in a 50 hour window of time.
The neighbour who was burgled could have been burgled any time from about 11am onwards on 24th, on the 25th or on the 26th. The police say the 26th December but that's based on what the criminals told them. Most burglars do not operate in the middle of the day. There are exceptions but that's the general rule.
Scott initially tells people he's going to go golfing . Then he goes out on the bay. He then tells someone he went fishing. He 's go the receipt to prove it. Finally when the LE get involved he sticks to the fishing story. He likely told the golf story because it was a windy cold day and going fishing would make no sense to those of Laci's family he told firstup. Also Ron was a fisherman , Scott does not want Ron G to come along. When he's out at the warehouse he cuts himself on the hand while messing around with assembling a router machine. This is highly convenient if he cut himself earlier and wants and alibi for a cut. So there's no rush about going fishing even though it is an hr and a half at least away from Modesto.
When he gets back he sees Laci is missing because the keys have been left behind (give him benefit of doubt) and rings the Rochas immediately without ringing Laci's phone to check where she might be. Now that's strange, she went out presumably on foot or in a friend's car without her keys and purse but she did take her phone. The door is left unlocked - he says. That's unprovable. it seems highly inconsistent.
However he's already rung Laci's phone - alibi call- on the way back from the fishing trip. It of course goes unanswered. It's Ron Granski who rings the LE, not Scott.
Rather than leaving the boat cover on the boat out in the warehouse , he brings it back home and puts it in the garden shed where it gets saturated in Gasoline in a pseudo accident . It is therefore useless forensically.
What a chain of coincidences and inconsistencies and we are only about 7 hrs in.
TEF
Wgy bother to do this? The questions these guys have no answers to have all been answered comprehensively and definitively. Do the research.
Yes, they have been answered. He's guilty.
You can’t sell the boat. It was state’s evidence.
I was pregnant at the same time she was, I was high risk. My ex-husband was always running out the door no matter what the day, so idk I don’t think it’s really that odd for him to leave on Christmas Eve Morning
Generation Duh
You stated the Modesto Police did a "fantastic job". I would disagree. The manager of Scotts' warehouse said Lacy was there with the boat and Det. Brochini left it out of his report. The Aponte tape was given to the Modesto police and it disappeared . And the van that was seen by Diane Jackson, which she saw Lacy with the men had a mattress with blood on it and set on fire a mile from lacys house, which the police never tested! So where exactly is this "fabulous job" that the Police did??
Documentary watcher 😂
Who else had a motive to murder this woman? Who? Only him.
@@paulphillips684 you’re totally correct. Not only did the police do a ridiculously horrible job and have often been accused of corruption (witnesses have recently said they fear police retaliation if they speak about this case, etc), but apparently the prosecutor habitually commits prosecutorial misconduct as well. Judge Hill essentially just agreed October 7, 2024 that Scott’s team was denied loads of evidence they should’ve had for the past 20 years that they were never given access to surrounding the burglary, the missing lieutenant Aponte tape, and the burned van/bloody mattress evidence.
It’s literally appalling this type of thing happened on a case when the entire world was watching. I can’t understand how people can still defend the police investigation or the prosecution’s actions at this at this point. Most of all, Laci’s mother should be downright furious with them - because of the fact that they dropped the ball either purposefully or accidentally (which doesn’t matter in the eyes of the Brady law) it could mean that Scott has a chance to be released. If he really did kill Laci, that would be devastating. And it would be all the fault of the prosecutor/police for the multiple Brady violations.
Not a fantastic job, but a good enough job. Your facts are off. Laci didn't see the boat. Here's the report from a neighboring occupant (not sure if it's the manager) of the warehouse building. "O’Donnell explained that Laci had used the bathroom in her warehouse unit on Dec. 20th or 23rd. The police thought this was to prevent Laci from seeing Scott’s boat. Further, the warehouse was so full it was difficult to get to the bathroom in Scott’s warehouse." A diagram of the warehouse showed the shop was jammed packed with pallets and other equipment. A very pregnant woman would not want to climb through all that to get to the bathroom. Did you even try to see the diagram?
Moving on, Diane Jackson first said the van was white, then tan or brown. The van that burned was orange and was a mile away. She also said she saw it at 11:40 but the loose dog was seen at 10:18; the van wasn't seen. She also said there were 3 short, dark skinned burglars, but there were only 2 white guys who did it. It's easy to get fooled by the conspiracy theorists and their documentaries, until you look at the fine details that the police looked at.
@@harryprice6019 Paul's facts are not off. I've researched this case for years and I literally have copies of all the recent motions submitted to Judge Hill this year. Much evidence proves Laci was aware of the boat. First of all, Laci's stepfather Ron said in his testimony that most of the conversations he ever had with Scott (in Laci's presence) was about fishing and how he wished he had a boat because he didn't own one - he only had a float for fishing. When Scott told police the boat was meant to be a Christmas morning surprise for Ron to be able to use when he wanted, and he could go fishing with Ron and his new son... they didn't believe this, but Ron's own testimony and other evidence actually shows this could have been true. Scott paid for the boat with money from a joint bank account he shared with Laci - not a private account to hide the expense. Secondly, as you mentioned, the warehouse neighbor said Laci was there on December 23rd to use her bathroom, which coincided with what Scott had told police from start... that Laci had come to see the boat on the 23rd. Who knows the reason she used the bathroom - whether she THOUGHT it was blocked, or she didn't want to be near any chemicals, etc. As if all that weren't enough to prove Laci knew about the boat, there's physical evidence that still exists which has been submitted to the judge. Police found post-its that were near Laci's computer that were clearly pricing out anchors from two different marine stores in Modesto. The handwriting on the post its matches the same ink and handwriting of Laci's grocery lists found in her purse. I've seen it myself. When compared alongside Scott's handwriting, it doesn't match - it makes sense it would be Laci's. This both offers proof Laci both knew about the boat AND she was helping Scott with this surprise for Ron's use...and it also explains why Scott made anchors. He told police they discovered an anchor would be as much as $50 and the one thing the previous boat owner did not sell Scott was an anchor. The man who sold Scott the boat confirmed this - he kept the anchor because it was new and he wanted to keep using it. Scott already had cement in his warehouse, and used it often for work and home projects, so he says he used that to create one anchor.
And the Diane sighting was more about the multiple shady characters seen outside the Peterson home unaccounted for. You do know that criminals don't work alone, right? Multiple vans can be used by a criminal network of multiple criminals, which is very typical. Gangs don't only use all one vehicle. Multiple witnesses saw shady characters outside the Peterson's neighbors in the same timeframe Laci went missing which was the same time of another crime...which is weird. And wasn't just Diane Jackson who mentioned the 3 dark skinned individuals, it was also another neighbor named Linda Chilles who is the widow of a Modesto Police Detective. Her statement is also in the recent motion. And to your point - the 3 dark skinned individuals don't match the description of the two men who took the fall. Meaning, they didn't work alone. Were you aware that the police informant (who turned those 2 white men into police to begin with) stated that at least 3 men were involved in the burglary. Who is that other man, and who were the other 3 dark skinned individuals multiple people saw?
You also have to remember that word on the street within the crime network from the Airport District was that Steven Todd got into a verbal altercation with Laci the morning of her disappearance. Why would that rumor even exist among the inmates in the crime ring? Likely because multiple men were there who witnessed it.
Also, this wasn't just any burglary. $30,000 in cash was taken from a safe which was never accounted for even after police arrested the two men. Multiple g*ns were stolen. Bizarrely, anonymous man turned in one of the weapons at the police station the day after both white men got arrested. Why turn that in? Were they afraid they'd trace that weapon back to a crime?
That's not even getting into the watch pawned down the street days after Laci disappeared that matched the description of Laci's watch, pawned by a woman who was in the same crime ring as one of the burglars.
Anyone who overlooks all of these items has blinders on. All of these things should have been properly and fully investigated and shown to the defense with plenty of time to show the jury. I'm not saying he's innocent, but even I can admit this is weird.
It's a real puzzle tbh. What do you think of the theory that a serial killer framed Scott? Outlandish I know, but there's a doc on it. Will post if i find it again.
Total bs.
I saw that doc. No way he killed Laci.
@@sophie8394 it's crazy anyone gives the EWE theory a second thought, right? Even crazier is. . . anyone believing a so-called 'documentary' backed by the killers family.
bestiality?? what.the.hell.