Psychological Astrology: The Astrology of the Mind
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- An interview with astrologer John Green about psychological astrology, and some of the unique and valuable contributions the blending of astrology and depth psychology has made to contemporary astrological practice over the past few decades.
John is the director of the Mercury Internet School of Psychological Astrology (MISPA), which offers a diploma course that combines astrology with depth, humanistic, and transpersonal psychology.
He originally studied with and became a tutor at the Centre for Psychological Astrology (CPA), which was founded by Liz Greene and Howard Sasportas in the 1980s, and his school represents a continuation of that lineage.
This interview was motivated by a discussion that John and I had about the recent revival of older forms of astrology, and how they might be synthesized with some of the some of the contemporary approaches to astrology that developed in modern times.
The main questions we tried to address in this interview were 1) to articulate what psychological astrology is, and 2) to talk about some of the important and valuable things it has to contribute to any future synthesis of the various astrological traditions.
While some of this may be review for those who have been in the astrological community for the past few decades, it may be useful for newer students of astrology who are just coming into field now, and don't necessarily know what they might be missing if they only study traditional forms of astrology.
In some ways this episode represents the continuation of a series over the past few years that has documented the emergence of modern astrology in the 20th century through figures such as Alan Leo, Evangeline Adams, Carl Jung, and Dane Rudhyar. This episode brings that series closer to completion by talking about some developments that occurred towards the end of the 20th century.
This interview was conducted in-person on Wednesday, June 19, 2019, in the research library of the Theosophical Society in London, towards the end of my trip to the UK to attend the 51st Annual Conference of the Astrological Association of Great Britain.
For more more information about John, see his website:
www.psychologicalastrology.com
This is episode 210 of The Astrology Podcast:
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:09 John Green and Mercury Internet School
00:05:56 History of psychological astrology
00:08:58 Jung
00:10:30 What makes psychological astrology different
00:16:28 Counseling skills
00:20:24 Synthesis of psychological and traditional astrology
00:24:40 Trigger points
00:28:37 Problems with learning traditional astrology first
00:31:28 Less is more
00:32:46 Importance of astrological jargon
00:38:15 How to explain transits
00:44:27 Orbs
00:47:43 Transits as cycles of development
00:53:48 Family dynamics
01:00:36 Astrologer as storyteller
01:16:49 Fate
01:17:56 John Green's website and book
So glad that I came upon this podcast! Thank you!❤
Thank you!
I’ve been thinking about changing my career based on my interest. Just a day ago, June 27, 2019, I wrote “psychological astrology” (simply because I have interest in psychology and astrology) in my book, and out of nowhere, this video emerged in my timeline 💕
That also the reason why I subscribe to this channel, just did it this morning!!
they say that this how moon in Sagittarius works... or Jupiter in Pisces... ^^ i can't remember
Interesting the conversation about transits. I'll never forget saturn squaring my venus at 0 degrees. I was always a very centered person, healthy self steem... and this transit almost destroyed me last year. I'm very happy it's over. I can't imagine how terrible must feel to be born with this aspect. When I get a client with this aspect now, I'll be so much more sympathetic with their situation.
Great questions and beautiful reflections, Chris. I'm a therapist working towards integrating astrology. This person is so insightful and grounded, and this is such a useful interview! Thank you!
I was missing my teacher John Green, so it was nice to see and hear him again. I had a wonderful experience being his student a few years ago. Thank you for having done this interview.
he seems like a really lovely man.
Considering becoming a student. I’d love to hear more about your experience. He seems like a lovely man
@@404manda404 He is, and is also a wonderful teacher! Go for it without hesitation :)
I like how this filmed. 👍
Brilliant interview, it was great to see John again (I've done his foundation course).
Great interview. Thank you so much for sharing.
Wonderful video. Thanks for sharing
Very nice interview. Waiting eagerly for the Enneagram to start leaking into astrology.
This was very helpful Chris, thank you so much. :)
Excellent.
Thank you so much
This might be the way I want to go!!! Mary
i had a reading in around 2002 about my personality and were i was going towards but at that time i could not comprehend the information, i was to busy with my life. around 8 years later my life started to change, and my change of work was in that reading, and it was all about following my north node path ;)
Wholly shit... thats the only time ive ever seen a thumbnail come to life... that was cool 😎👍
Fantastic interview, so much helpful info to start with. Like others here, I found the term psychological astrology just recently, after three years of studying astrology for personal development and as a hobby. And the signs keep on coming. Thank you for your passion.
My school is within and the wisdom gained has come from experience. Take Manly Hall for instance. He was a wisdom scholar who didn't want to be boxed in to a school of thought. Freedom to think for ourselves is a problem that can be easily solved. Attributes and personalities are expressed in many ways. From an intuitive point of view, from studying history, biology, human physiology and psychology, it becomes a broad based skill when we bring in astrology. For me it was the icing on the cake. When we bring studies together rather than keeping them separate it makes more sense. Jung paved the way for the astrologer to use integration of shadow work to change the way mankind perceives his reality. When I work with someone to show them a loved one who isn't in the physical body anymore, they are amazed how their energies show up in a chart. Astrology imo should evolve as the astrologers skill moves forward with new information. We cannot box in an intuitive means to know ourselves through the art of astrology. Time is dual in terms of life and death. To integrate monism releases a native from their grief which is a huge psychological nuance.
I love that poem.
“They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.”
― Philip Larkin
Philip Larkin is my favorite poet! I love that poem too.
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44:25 - responding to criticism of Psychological Astrology
1:01:20 - why it’s worth bringing psychology into hellenistic astrology
Great works by Erich Carl Kuehr (orig.: Kühr):
Psychologische Horoskopdeutung, Band I, Görlitz, 1938
Psychologische Horoskopdeutung, Band II, Görlitz, 1941
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Carl_K%C3%BChr
hi, womdering if liz green is still around. I knew her as a little girl
Really? Interesting..was that when she lived in US? Yes she’s still around and imagine London .
Sadly she IS still around; but I am afraid she has lost her way due due to being influenced by the so called the Mountain Astrologer.
Astrology is not a simple Craft -it is the utmost Science. No mere pseudoscience - but the purest of all sciences.
My father married her for a short time, so I grew up with her.. He edited and published some of her books too. Is there any way I can get in touch or know more about this?
Peace divine are you in the UK? Yourself or
I want like this video but the likes are at 777 which are my Angel numbers. I think I know what I need to do…
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