I used to play in the silk stream in burnt oak when I was a kid 1970’s , I used to love the live eels for sale outside the fishmongers and I used to buy clothes from the army surplus store at the top of the hill , I would buy a “ Red Bus Rover “ and just jump on and off the open backed double decker buses ...truly wonderful memories ❤️ Burnt Oak ❤️
I played in the tramway ditch in Montrose Park. Why was there a tramline through the park? Yes I remember eating chips in the Wimpy for 15p a plate and watching fish-mongers cut the heads off eels if you asked them to! Eels are nearly extinct now!
in the the mid 1960's i used to love going to a second hand book shop ( opposite the underground station ). last year i was back in the uk and while in london on business i thought i would visit burnt oak to see how much the area had changed, i was shocked to see how run down it had become.
@121Bollox thanks mate for giving us ur input, much appreciated, its nice to talk to someone like urself who as we say comes from the old school, and knows the score how burnt oak itself and the boys around it used to operate, however burnt oak has changed our memorys wont change we know how good it WAS and we wont forget the place or the people that died in it, ur a goodun 121
Burnt Oak is a dump. All the shops sell the same bloody crap as well. I can remember as far back into the 70's. It was pretty crap then as well but it actually got worse!
@@michellea9857it wasn't run down , it was working class. Now it is a shanty town. If diversity is our strength, this should be the strongest place in the UK.
Lived near there Mill Hill/Burnt Oak Boarders from 1971 when my family moved out of central London, when my father got a job in Edgware, so I was brought up there and have fond memories of that area, and worked in various places in the area, until I left in 1994 when I realised how the place was starting to go down hill rapidly, tbh glad I'm now away from there, after seeing what it's like now on Google street view, quite sad really.
I was born in Edgware General Hospital in 1948 and until lived all over the nicer areas of NW London e.g. Mill Hill, Edgware and Hendon. Burnt Oak in the 1950' s and 60's always had a reputation because of the Watling Estate.Nevertheless it was still a resonably crime free and in parts a respectable place to live with a good range of shops and pre war housing. From the previous comments I would say that few areas of NW London have escaped from rising crime or decay. I will keep my memories of how it was and just glad I lived there when it was fairly nice and not a dump.
I grew up in Burnt oak in the early 90's after my dad lost his job at Colindale school. Yea ok its a dump , it needs cleaning up n doing up , but hey the council being serious here , wont waste their money or time doing so . Look i dont mind a couple of fruit and veg shops , but a whole street ? And all the hair salons are afro Caribbean. They definitely need to do something about the level of crime also as it's geting worse . The only reason I travel there is to visit my dad n brother who unfortunately still live there .
I think the problem with burnt oak is that it sits on the boundary of Brent, Harrow and Barnet and they're all probably passing the buck on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area. I went to Colindale primary in the early to mid 90s I wonder your father ever taught me!
@121Bollox im a bit unsure about some of the names you mentioned, maybe cos we would have grown up at different time periods, i do remember the market when it really was a market, now you can hardly call it a boot sale its so crap. can i name you 1 english shop ... YES HASSANS the mens clothes shop in the watling, there used to be 2 hassan shops but 1 closed, well thats the only english shop i can think of now. iranian /turkish grocery shops are in abundance, u can get more fruit than u need.
Many years past since my last comment on here so 10 years older and burnt oak is still slowly declining, no thanks to massive buildings goin up in the colindale grahame park and surrounding areas, bringing more trouble in our streets and area, more people more problems and constant reminder of that is police and ambulance sirens going off and i was watching police at grahame park where they were shot at chasing people through the shopping centre. Where will our town be in another 10 years time, covid hasent helped closing down many businesses yet new shops n offices are goin up in colindale all burnt oak got was a revamped montrose and silkstream park !
@121Bollox to b honest havent heard anythin abt that school in some years so id say possibly not ? the bidmeads were in abbots road, was a big family, orange hill school at top of abbots rd is a college, woodcroft and goldbeaters schools still going good, barnfield school got top marks in the education field. apart from that much the same buildings, just the people thats different.
Born 1.5.1933 went to infant school at the age of five then through the junior senior school until the.age of fourteen then went to Hendon commercial college..played cricket and football for school and Hendon borough.form master Mr o,Keene , head master Mr hodgeinson, Both very sports minded..how many of could still be around...
121 bollox, i was born in edgware hospital too in 1958, and unfortunatly my comments are fact, lyndhurst park the council just decided to put a small play area for the kids, very little tho so thats 1 positive but its not the same here anymore. but saying that i moved once, then moved back after a year so i guess some of stay where our original roots lie. i moved in this house in blundell road in 1974 with my mum n dad and nan, all 3 are dead now and my mum just recently, im still here now.
dreadful dump, as a temporary immigrant myself to the place, it's a textbook example of multiculturalism not working, very dirty, all the shops are Romanian/African/Arabian/Indian etc, the only Brits are old pensioners. It's kinda weird because you can feel it was a proper original / traditional London suburb 20 years ago. Sad to see really.
I am a Brit myself and Burnt Oak has always been dodgy and run down, actually when many African and East Europeans arrived the area has become slightly safer as the immigrants brought their culture with them. A lot of the hardcore feral English working class culture has diminished. I am not saying Burn't Oak is the nicest area in the world it certainly isn't, it suffers from a lack of investment by the council, but no one should fool themselves that Burn't Oak was once a really nice place.
@121Bollox yeh everyones gone and dissapeared around here, except me i guess, there used to be a family here who i was good mates with were called the BIDMEADS does that ring a bell ? most of them have either died or moved away. its amazing isnt it how non english people look at us british folks on here simply call racism the moment you chat abt wot the area was like, the post started with the history of burnt oak and us being a big part of that, we want to portray what it used to be like
Was a nice place when my parents moved to colindale, was just on the border of burnt oak. I grew up there, Montrose park and silkstream nice. All nice shops... I moved abroad in 1992 and would visit my parents over the years... I watch this place go to be a shit hole.. not many English left there now.
@121Bollox 121 bollox, i was born in edgware hospital too in 1958, and unfortunatly my comments are fact, lyndhurst park the council just decided to put a small play area for the kids, very little tho so thats 1 positive but its not the same here anymore. but saying that i moved once, then moved back after a year so i guess some of stay where our original roots lie. i moved in this house in blundell road in 1974 with my mum n dad and nan, all 3 are dead now and my mum just recently, im still ere
I grew up in the area in the 70s and people moaned about immigrants then. You know the Irish, Scots and Indians who have done so much to build this country! They spoke English and some had better jobs than nowadays, so maybe they integrated more quickly. I must say the housing in Burnt Oak is mostly good. Compared to the flammable high rise towers in the private sector, which still haven't been made safe.
Thank you for this film, showing how Burnt Oak once was. I lived in Egware for over 20 years & Burnt Oak was always a bit run down
I used to play in the silk stream in burnt oak when I was a kid 1970’s , I used to love the live eels for sale outside the fishmongers and I used to buy clothes from the army surplus store at the top of the hill , I would buy a “ Red Bus Rover “ and just jump on and off the open backed double decker buses ...truly wonderful memories ❤️ Burnt Oak ❤️
I played in the tramway ditch in Montrose Park. Why was there a tramline through the park? Yes I remember eating chips in the Wimpy for 15p a plate and watching fish-mongers cut the heads off eels if you asked them to! Eels are nearly extinct now!
in the the mid 1960's i used to love going to a second hand book shop ( opposite the underground station ). last year i was back in the uk and while in london on business i thought i would visit burnt oak to see how much the area had changed, i was shocked to see how run down it had become.
That bookshop was The London Lending Library owned and run by Mr.Puddy.It closed in the early 1980s.
Thank you . this is a great record of just how it was and is.
+polly.pongo look at the finished burnt oak now.
EE are here
@121Bollox thanks mate for giving us ur input, much appreciated, its nice to talk to someone like urself who as we say comes from the old school, and knows the score how burnt oak itself and the boys around it used to operate, however burnt oak has changed our memorys wont change we know how good it WAS and we wont forget the place or the people that died in it, ur a goodun 121
Born in Edgware general, lived in Watling Ave!! Very proud to be a Burnt oak bird!!!@!@
You live in the apartments above the shops?
Burnt Oak is a dump. All the shops sell the same bloody crap as well. I can remember as far back into the 70's. It was pretty crap then as well but it actually got worse!
Burnt oak now is truly disgusting place
Full of roadmen and junkies
I will agree with you all
I live there but all you should shut the fuck up
Remind me when it was nice, because I was there in the 70s and it was completely rundown, nowt as changed.
@@michellea9857it wasn't run down , it was working class. Now it is a shanty town. If diversity is our strength, this should be the strongest place in the UK.
Amazing thanx a lot!!!!
Lived near there Mill Hill/Burnt Oak Boarders from 1971 when my family moved out of central London, when my father got a job in Edgware, so I was brought up there and have fond memories of that area, and worked in various places in the area, until I left in 1994 when I realised how the place was starting to go down hill rapidly, tbh glad I'm now away from there, after seeing what it's like now on Google street view, quite sad really.
I live in Burnt Oak ! That’s why i watched this!
Same u prob live some where close
What do you think of Burn't Oak?
@@michellea9857 run down
I was born in Edgware General Hospital in 1948 and until lived all over the nicer areas of NW London e.g. Mill Hill, Edgware and Hendon. Burnt Oak in the 1950' s and 60's always had a reputation because of the Watling Estate.Nevertheless it was still a resonably crime free and in parts a respectable place to live with a good range of shops and pre war housing. From the previous comments I would say that few areas of NW London have escaped from rising crime or decay. I will keep my memories of how it was and just glad I lived there when it was fairly nice and not a dump.
I lived in the Watling estate in the 1960s it was a good place to live and a great community we had a safe childhood there
I grew up in Burnt oak in the early 90's after my dad lost his job at Colindale school. Yea ok its a dump , it needs cleaning up n doing up , but hey the council being serious here , wont waste their money or time doing so . Look i dont mind a couple of fruit and veg shops , but a whole street ? And all the hair salons are afro Caribbean. They definitely need to do something about the level of crime also as it's geting worse . The only reason I travel there is to visit my dad n brother who unfortunately still live there .
Ztop violating burnt oak
I think the problem with burnt oak is that it sits on the boundary of Brent, Harrow and Barnet and they're all probably passing the buck on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area.
I went to Colindale primary in the early to mid 90s I wonder your father ever taught me!
@@kingsleyfrizzell4044hrs not violating it he's js saying there's alot of crime which is true
Hello it's me I'm glad to be as far away from burnt Oak as possible and the people there?d,b
@121Bollox im a bit unsure about some of the names you mentioned, maybe cos we would have grown up at different time periods, i do remember the market when it really was a market, now you can hardly call it a boot sale its so crap.
can i name you 1 english shop ... YES HASSANS the mens clothes shop in the watling, there used to be 2 hassan shops but 1 closed, well thats the only english shop i can think of now.
iranian /turkish grocery shops are in abundance, u can get more fruit than u need.
Many years past since my last comment on here so 10 years older and burnt oak is still slowly declining, no thanks to massive buildings goin up in the colindale grahame park and surrounding areas, bringing more trouble in our streets and area, more people more problems and constant reminder of that is police and ambulance sirens going off and i was watching police at grahame park where they were shot at chasing people through the shopping centre. Where will our town be in another 10 years time, covid hasent helped closing down many businesses yet new shops n offices are goin up in colindale all burnt oak got was a revamped montrose and silkstream park !
@121Bollox to b honest havent heard anythin abt that school in some years so id say possibly not ?
the bidmeads were in abbots road, was a big family, orange hill school at top of abbots rd is a college, woodcroft and goldbeaters schools still going good, barnfield school got top marks in the education field.
apart from that much the same buildings, just the people thats different.
Do you remember the Annex Primary School that was by the Edgware hospital
It closed in the 1970's and I believe has houses built where it once stood.
I rember a school there didnt know the name of it tho. Another has been built thete quite modern too
Born 1.5.1933 went to infant school at the age of five then through the junior senior school until the.age of fourteen then went to Hendon commercial college..played cricket and football for school and Hendon borough.form master Mr o,Keene , head master Mr hodgeinson, Both very sports minded..how many of could still be around...
Even if its a tip ill allways have to visit my grandma
Burnt Oak needs Jesus.
121 bollox, i was born in edgware hospital too in 1958, and unfortunatly my comments are fact, lyndhurst park the council just decided to put a small play area for the kids, very little tho so thats 1 positive but its not the same here anymore.
but saying that i moved once, then moved back after a year so i guess some of stay where our original roots lie.
i moved in this house in blundell road in 1974 with my mum n dad and nan, all 3 are dead now and my mum just recently, im still here now.
And anyway I'm old school burnt Oak but I will never go back?
dreadful dump, as a temporary immigrant myself to the place, it's a textbook example of multiculturalism not working, very dirty, all the shops are Romanian/African/Arabian/Indian etc, the only Brits are old pensioners. It's kinda weird because you can feel it was a proper original / traditional London suburb 20 years ago. Sad to see really.
I am a Brit myself and Burnt Oak has always been dodgy and run down, actually when many African and East Europeans arrived the area has become slightly safer as the immigrants brought their culture with them. A lot of the hardcore feral English working class culture has diminished. I am not saying Burn't Oak is the nicest area in the world it certainly isn't, it suffers from a lack of investment by the council, but no one should fool themselves that Burn't Oak was once a really nice place.
@121Bollox yeh everyones gone and dissapeared around here, except me i guess, there used to be a family here who i was good mates with were called the BIDMEADS does that ring a bell ? most of them have either died or moved away.
its amazing isnt it how non english people look at us british folks on here simply call racism the moment you chat abt wot the area was like, the post started with the history of burnt oak and us being a big part of that, we want to portray what it used to be like
Wow i live in burnt oak LOLLL
Me to
I deliver mail around there :p
Was a nice place when my parents moved to colindale, was just on the border of burnt oak. I grew up there, Montrose park and silkstream nice. All nice shops... I moved abroad in 1992 and would visit my parents over the years... I watch this place go to be a shit hole.. not many English left there now.
I've heard being called Little Romania
All the crap shops, people spitting and peeing in the streets. Full of rubbish. Happy my parents have to see that no more.
And anyway I'm the most well known bargery in burnt Oak and don't forget it
Lived in the oak from 82-98 it was always a shit hole but st least you kinda new everyone in a round about way.
Burnt oak some people called it barnt ok
@121Bollox 121 bollox, i was born in edgware hospital too in 1958, and unfortunatly my comments are fact, lyndhurst park the council just decided to put a small play area for the kids, very little tho so thats 1 positive but its not the same here anymore.
but saying that i moved once, then moved back after a year so i guess some of stay where our original roots lie.
i moved in this house in blundell road in 1974 with my mum n dad and nan, all 3 are dead now and my mum just recently, im still ere
Son are you alive
OI MY SCHOOL IS BURNT OAK STOP SAYING ITS BAD AND DISGUSTING ITS A SCHOOL! OKAY?!
I grew up in the area in the 70s and people moaned about immigrants then. You know the Irish, Scots and Indians who have done so much to build this country! They spoke English and some had better jobs than nowadays, so maybe they integrated more quickly. I must say the housing in Burnt Oak is mostly good. Compared to the flammable high rise towers in the private sector, which still haven't been made safe.
Well spotted Optimum - now, get out of Middlesex!
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