Thank you so much for these studies. I pray that I do not get distracted from coming back each week to be filled by these words. God bless you and all who are helping in these messages.🙏🏻♥️
Very well done my brother! When you spoke of how the remnant remain all throughout the Bible, it reminds me also of Matthew 24:41-42. When Jesus says one is taken the other left. Most apostate protestant churches believe the ones taken are secretly raptured. However it is as you showed, those that are taken are the wicked and those that are left(remain) are the righteous, whom will meet Christ in the air. Praise God Always! 🙏
Amen is so true , the church cannot and will never fall, God is the foundation, the Architect and the builder. So no matter how the church seems like it is going to fall it will stand forever. Because, God said the gates of hell shall not prevail against his foundation the church which he builds. Stay faithful God is on his way Amen.
How do you leave God's church...my understanding is renouncing the truth because the church is the pillar and foundation of truth...how can you remain under apostasy and claim to be in the church?...remember during the time of trouble the church of God will not be congregating in buildings yet the church will still exist
It is very important for all persons who claim to be seventh-day adventists to thoroughly understand what is the omega of deadly heresies mentioned in chapters 24 and 25 of the book 1 SM.
May God continue to bless you my dear Brother. Just came upon this and found Present Truth hear. The Everlasting Gospel is not so popular because most of us just want air our dirty laundry on RUclips re: to our dissatisfaction with the GC. Truth be told i've been one of them because it's shameful what's going on. But this video was a breath of fresh air and I prefer learning about the Remnant TRUTH as opposed to the gossip. Time is too short. And lately I want to be FAITHFUL and live . May the LORD richly bless you and i subscribed so i hope that you give more Bible study videos. I'll review with my notebook and take notes. My favorite subjects: History and Biblical Prophecy. Happy Sabbath to you and yours. MARANATHA WATCHMAN. 🔊🔊🔊📡📖
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. “Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them” (Matthew 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church.
It is clearly a particular denomination. Rev 14:12 states “here is the patience of the saints (those waiting for His return, not all denominations are), those who keep Gods commandments (only 1 denomination keeps all 10 of the commandments) and those who have the faith of Jesus (not all denominations believe Jesus is the son of God). Only 1 denomination fits all 3 and give the 3 angels messages. There are many in other Christian denominations and religions (including atheists) that will join Gods church at the crunch time just before probation closes as they are called out of Babylon (systems that teach false doctrines).
Pastor, many of those that leave the denomination, whether by choice or through being kicked-out, are not "leaving" the Church. They still claim to be Adventists. They know that not being attached to the organization in itself is not God's remnant Church. My personal concern is that the church is no longer teaching the message of the Almighty God and the Lamb of Revelation, His only begotten Son. Also, while Loma Linda is directly UNDER the GC it has failed greatly. (There are other examples, but for one, the church there has promoted an LGBTQ graduation celebration and the hospital provides elective abortions which breaks the 6th commandment. The church should sell our hospitals and institutions that break God's commandments.) Curious if you are giving THEM the straight testimony? Yet you want to AGITATE those of us who believe in the "three great worthies," but NOT the Trinity? You want to orchestrate our shaking out? You say it's a serious thing and that you must agitate. Is that so prople like me are shaken OUT!? We don't disfellowship the above persons, but we will shake and agitate someone like myself? I consider myself a true member. Your position breaks my heart.
"God has a church upon the earth, made up of his chosen, commandment-keeping people. 𝗛𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘆 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝘀𝗵𝗼𝗼𝘁𝘀, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗮 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲.The truth is a sanctifying power, but 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝘁𝗿𝗶𝘂𝗺𝗽𝗵𝗮𝗻𝘁. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗮𝘁. “Wilt thou then that we gather them up,” was the question asked by the servants. But the Master answered, “Nay; lest, while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.” The gospel net drew not only good but bad fish as well; and the Lord knows them that are His." EA 98.2
Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon. His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God....
The brethren don't seem to understand what is the church? Is God coming for the conference? Or is God coming for his church? What comes first the church or conference? There was God's church long before there was a conference. Please don't confuse the two saints.
Thank God for the "Offshoots" They are the only ones who have been blowing the trumpet with a certain sound. These are the only watchmen who are not afraid to "Bark". The "Organization" is not the church. The people who love Jesus and keep His commandments is the "Church"
There cannot be a shaking and sifting in the people of God who are keeping the commandments of God. The shaking and sifting takes place in the church that is composed of both wheat and tares. This cannot be the invisible church of the people of God but the visible church. For there will be no point of a warning of the shaking if it only takes place in the invisible church. It is because the visible church will be shaken that is why we are warned. Furthermore, you said the organized church is not the church. Did you know that goes directly in opposition to what God has said? Beware of those who arise with a great burden to denounce the church..... - {3SM 17.2} I tell you, my brethren, the Lord has an organized body through whom he will work. There may be more than a score of Judases among them, there may be a rash Peter who will under circumstances of trial deny his Lord. There may be persons represented by John whom Jesus loved, but he may have a zeal that would destroy men’s lives by calling down fire from heaven upon them to revenge an insult to Christ and the truth. But the great Teacher seeks to give lessons of instruction to correct these existing evils. He is doing the same today with his church. He is pointing out their dangers. He is presenting before them the Laodicean message. - {3SM 17.3} Do you think that the Peters and Judases could be in the leadership as well? Yes. But does it change the fact that God has an organized body? No. This is great time of deception. Inspiration is clear: When anyone is drawing apart from the organized body of God’s commandmentkeeping people, when he begins to weigh the church in his human scales and begins to pronounce judgment against them, then you may know that God is not leading him. He is on the wrong track. - {3SM 18.4} Let’s all get back on the right track. God bless.
"God has a church upon the earth, made up of his chosen, commandment-keeping people. 𝗛𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘆 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝘀𝗵𝗼𝗼𝘁𝘀, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗮 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲.The truth is a sanctifying power, but 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝘁𝗿𝗶𝘂𝗺𝗽𝗵𝗮𝗻𝘁. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗮𝘁. “Wilt thou then that we gather them up,” was the question asked by the servants. But the Master answered, “Nay; lest, while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.” The gospel net drew not only good but bad fish as well; and the Lord knows them that are His." EA 98.2
God have an organized body. Look at the human structure. Even thou some members weak. We should unite and keep the body together as what the apostle Paul said. We cannot come out of which is not Babylon thou the tendencies exist.
All these GC apologist failed to prove what is the church? All they believed is that the GC is the church.They failed to read and see Jesus was not part of the Sanhedrin church at that time,whst John the Baptist, Elijah, Jeremiah and tbe others....why are they staying away from the example of Jesus? What does SOP said that constitute 'The Church?' What i would line all these apologist to do ,is all SOP quotes that pertain to a particular subject ,is to compile them and discuss... I observed they arw taking quotes out of context,or misapplying them.
Good Morning Bro Norlon, Thank you for these studies. I have a question. Are we right now in judgment? Or the earth being judged? If you may help me please
When Ganoune Diop a GC leader being paid by God's holy tithe publicly supports the papacy and ecumenism should we remain under such apostasy and say God will take care of the matter... When Loma Linda University of which Ted Wilson is a board member hires a Catholic Priest as a chaplain and promotes the idolatrous ceremony of Ash Wednesday, should we remain under and support this system... When Israel rebelled at the Jordan God commended Phinehas son of Eleazer for using the javelin against the apostate leader...where is Phinehas today?
Happy Sabbath ❣️ I believe he addressed this. From what I understand, there are these strange things that are occurring in the SDA church to fulfill the prophesy of the Sifting. This process is ordained by God for a purpose. From this Sifting, those that remain are part of the "one fold" that Jesus foretold would happen. Those who are calling in out the actions of the GC, remain yet in the church. If we chose to leave, where would we put ourselves? Is there a new movement that will be created that would match the Revelation church? If our church has been infiltrated, does He who "sees the evil and the good", not know it? Is He insufficient to steer the ship into port? I believe we "stand still and see the salvation of the Lord". Jesus said "...the gates of Hell shall not prevail..." I'm not preaching at, nor lecturing any. I feel this is the time to be instant, constant in prayer for the Latter Rain, for the leaders and lay of the church and for ourselves and loved ones.
The church was before the cooperation of the regime GC and it will be after it's foundation is removed God's church is not the GC to depart from the faith was never to leave or are kicked out of the organisation of a denomination John 9 desire of ages 23 it is to reject Christ comandment or law his word
When my Pastor tells me that the bible doesn’t mean what it says. That I need special hermeneutical understanding to truly understand what the bible means and that patriarchal mysoginistic men such as Moses and Paul wrote from the culture of their day using their own understanding should I stay…..? I do not attend to imbibe error but I will hold firmly to the truth this movement has been entrusted with. God knows false shepherds have scattered his sheep and He will deal to it.
In seeing the stance of the church regarding Rome today, do you think Sunday law will be accepted by the leadership or will they oppose Sunday law that carries death penalty, risk cancellation of its legal registration, tax exemption, risk its church buildings being taken and their hospitals taken by the government? If stand true to God will God miraculously continue to register all levels of conference structure during that time so the boat is still intact?
I just have one question. I have never read that the investigative judgement passes from the living to the dead after the Sunday law and after we are sealed. Every single passage I have ever read says we will not know when it passes from the living to the dead. Please give a reference for this statement. Blessings
Is it possible that those who are against God's remnant church (SDA) as is clearly shown in the SOP can pretend that they are for the TRUTH when the real aim is to separate the honest from the vehicle that God has chosen? Absolutely it is. Whatever arguments against this sermon have been given, including those on the LIVE CHAT REPLAY are doing nothing to the clear truth presented in this sermon. Greetings from Malawi. God bless the SDA Church.
The third angel message speaks of patience of the saints that is why no sanction is given to draw part from the organized body. What offshoots dont understand is thay they are unbelievers because they hate patience. They love comfort and to be seen and heard of men. They think God can have many folds. Jesus only established one fold whom he is leading. He is cleaning uniting his fold not dividing it.
I don‘t understand the discourse of the shaking. First the three conditions were given that would result in some no longer coming to church (some have already left): the straight testimony, heresies and the mark of the beast crisis. Then when you asked the question under topic under the sifting: what happens to sinners after the sifting? The answer was - they‘re out. Then you made reference to Matthew 13:24-30 about the wheat and tare growing together until harvest (the end of the world). Then it is said the sinners are in the church together with the saints. Are you saying the agitation caused by the shaking cause some to leave the church but, with sifting there will be some sinners that are sifted out but are still present in the church (though they’re lost) to help purify or make the remnant holy?
Hi Pastor, would like to know if the remnant that remain remain in a structure or remain in the 3 angels messages. Are you suggesting that the remnant is the structure?
A lot of people are missing the message. Its not about staying under the leadership of the church. Its about staying in the church as a whole. The leadership and the laity make up the GC and the whole church. There is far far more laity in the church than leaders. That's whats meant by staying in the church, the SDA remnant Church, not off shoot churches. To many peope are letting pride get in the way of staying the course God has set for us from the beginning.
You do not understand the bible, it's the Remnant not the Remnant Church that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus. The Remnant Church is Ladoceia which is spewed out of Christ's mouth. Ladoceia, the last of the seven churches in Revelation.
@@cityoftruth503 Oh I'm sorry my brother, I understand the Bible just fine. For you to say I don't just proves what spirit is coming from your mouth. You must be a separatist I guess. Christ's church will be a unified church, not a bunch of offshoots. All churches are basically Laodecean today, especially our church, so your point is?
@biblicalendoftimes9677 Come out of her, my people, including the GC SDA which will be a part of Babylon. You really think people like Ganone Diop are going anywhere? You really think those pushing the LGBTQ agenda are going to leave .They are not leaving the GC they will change it from within, just like those Pastors who supported Desmond Ford.
If according to your chart the sifting heavily happens during sunday law. Sunday law will cancel any structure that doesn't comply including the SDA structure if they refuse to keep Sunday. Where is the boat at this time? Is the boat based on structure or obedience through grace th the 3 angels messages?
“The remnant remains “. “I left because……..” “Stay with the ship” “ The shaking, the sifting “ The main question we all need to ask ourselves is REMAIN WHERE? We therefore must remember that God’s Remnant Church is clearly defined as those Who keep the Commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. That is the church brethren. The Church is not defined as a corporate structure with a GC and Administration . These are supposed to be GOOD SHEPHERDS in God’s church. If they aren’t, they too will be sifted out in like manner of those of the Old Testament Church who partnered with ROME . So, ease up on the sheep for now and turn your attention on the Shepherds. How are they leading and protecting God’s sheep? The COVID crisis is part of the shaking. God help us please.
If a person is part of the 144,000 and follows the Lamb and the Lamb tells that person to leave the nominal SDA church who teaches Spiritualism as defined in chapter 67 of the book Patriarchs and Prophets, is this person still on the boat?
Your message makes me so angry!! Do you think that the physical buildings will be open when the Sunday Law is passed??? The Remnant who believe the same thing and not in bed with Rome will huddle together and take this message to the rest of the world 🌍 I wonder if he watched the meeting that the SDA Conference had with the Catholic Church last week? Did he hear them say that the PROTEST is over and we are all CATHOLICS? So God’s people who want no part of that must remain??? Does this preacher realize as well that the quote from Sister White about staying on the ship and remaining with the Conference was in 1901??? WE ARE NOW IN THE 20TH Century!!! Things have changed! She was speaking for her time! If Sister White was alive now do you think she’d say remain? Hell no!!
"There have been and always will be tares among the wheat, the foolish virgins with the wise, those who have no oil in their vessels with their lamps. There was a covetous Judas in the church Christ formed on earth, and there will be Judases in the church in every stage of her history. But because there are such, it does not do away with the fact that God has a church. There were murmurers, envious and jealous ones in the tribes of Israel, journeying to the promised Canaan; but, notwithstanding, God led them by a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night. The deceitful hearts of individuals will lead them astray because they see imperfections in the church, but these very ones have defective characters that they do not discern. These very ones are capable of being useful in the church were they connected with the great Head of the church. But if they choose to be presumptuous, and in self-sufficiency draw off on some tangent, the church will move on without them. Every member of the church is bound by the most solemn vow to advance its interests and to labor unselfishly and devotedly for its success." ST October 23, 1879, par. 10
They that will be doers of the word are building securely, and the tempest and storm of persecution will not shake their foundation, because their souls are rooted to the eternal Rock.-Letter 108, October 28, 1886,
And who says the judgement of the living cannot begin before the last test? Did God tell us that at Sunday law he beginning with the living? I thought when God finished with the dead then he would move to judge the living (order). I did not know it depends on the mark of the beast. Even thou the mark of the beast is a sealing time for the living, this is not evidence to say that the judgement of the living cannot start before this time.
@revelation.. those who have forsaken the truth now still have a chance to repent of their sins and can become a part of the church again. isn't that possible?
The righteous will remain in the truth not ina building during presentation the building will close but the remant will be unmovable mr diop said to ont preach the third angels message you need to address that
Another wrong application of the Sunday Law! Some prophesies are not to be fulfilled in the literal sense the way we suppose, the serpent is a cunning creature. Why pass a literal Sunday Law when all he needs to do is to make SDAs disregard and pollute the sabbath, and this he has achieved to a greater extent, just going to church on Saturday is not sabbath-keeping. Those who wait for an open National Sunday Law for them to rebuke sin and apostacy in the church will come back to their senses when it is too late!
The death decree is in the sixth plague when Satan comes down as an angel of light and persuade the kings for the battle of Armageddon. Look back in the book Great controversy and read the events surrounding the sixth plague please.
Please know that Jesus is the "Ship" not the conference organization, before there was a GC there was a church. If the GC no longer exists, there will be a Church.
Are you implying GC is the church? I don't think that's what he's saying... Christ would still go into the synagogues (whose leaders were the pharisees, Sanhedrin etc) and preach. Did it mean the Sanhedrin was the church? No I don't think so.
Brother you are misleading the people the operative word REMAIN is this in the organisation in the building or is it in Christ the word his way if you are teaching REMAIN in the organisation your presentation is misleading all through the scripture the abiding and remain is in Christ not a building and organisation when one stand for the word and is excommunicated from membership are you saying that they should recant for coming back into membership your message isn't straight matt 18:20 desire of ages chapter 23 you know many other text and references
The word remains is the same word abiding found in the Scriptures John 15 through out Paul's writing and 1john it's simply stay in Christ but one can only depart from the faith when the manifestation of Christ in his life is rejected not the indoctrinational concept many true points but the false application is dangerous brother (Father have mercy on us free us please from the doctrine of men
Brother... your sermon is very good.. but you need to understand that the General Conference is not the church. The church is Gods faithful people who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus. Where two or three are gathered in my name, that is Gods church. 2 Timothy 2:19, God knows which people belong to Him. The true church of God cannot be seen.. yet. until the 7 last plagues.. then will be revealed Gods people. Storm and tempest will sweep away the structure. In the last days, there will possible be no GC. The remnant remain in the truth - they will not remain with an apostate leadership. The remnant will come out of an Apostate system that has accepted Rome as its master. And just before Titus returns to destroy Jerusalem, Gods people, the remnant will have left as per Jesus command. So, good message but hit the nail on the head.... Philp - Papua New Guinea.
Are you saying that when you leave the church you are lost? Are you teaching that only those in the organisation will be saved? Are you saying that salvation is in the church? I hear what you are saying and thats what you are teaching.
Jesus said it was His Church. There was nothing said about a corporate entity. It’s been said that none of the SDA pioneers could join if they were alive today because they couldn’t agree to the 28 fundamentals of today’s SDA church. I believe the off-shoot groups is the loud cry you’re looking for.
Thank you so much for these studies. I pray that I do not get distracted from coming back each week to be filled by these words. God bless you and all who are helping in these messages.🙏🏻♥️
Very well done my brother! When you spoke of how the remnant remain all throughout the Bible, it reminds me also of Matthew 24:41-42. When Jesus says one is taken the other left. Most apostate protestant churches believe the ones taken are secretly raptured. However it is as you showed, those that are taken are the wicked and those that are left(remain) are the righteous, whom will meet Christ in the air. Praise God Always! 🙏
The true Church will not be dependent on money to survive. It will depend on Jesus.
Amen 🙏
Amen is so true , the church cannot and will never fall, God is the foundation, the Architect and the builder. So no matter how the church seems like it is going to fall it will stand forever. Because, God said the gates of hell shall not prevail against his foundation the church which he builds. Stay faithful God is on his way Amen.
The majority are already a part of the "new organization" which has abandoned the "only true God and Jesus Christ" to worship the Papal god.
It will not achieve its aims without it. Money answereth all things. This is why the children of the East will bring their gold to the Remnant.
How do you leave God's church...my understanding is renouncing the truth because the church is the pillar and foundation of truth...how can you remain under apostasy and claim to be in the church?...remember during the time of trouble the church of God will not be congregating in buildings yet the church will still exist
Today's church is joined together with the Roman Catholic, our church Adventist Church is joined to the world church with the Pope.
It is very important for all persons who claim to be seventh-day adventists to thoroughly understand what is the omega of deadly heresies mentioned in chapters 24 and 25 of the book 1 SM.
Amen!
History is prophecy fulfilled. Prophecy is history foretold!
May God continue to bless you my dear Brother. Just came upon this and found Present Truth hear. The Everlasting Gospel is not so popular because most of us just want air our dirty laundry on RUclips re: to our dissatisfaction with the GC. Truth be told i've been one of them because it's shameful what's going on.
But this video was a breath of fresh air and I prefer learning about the Remnant TRUTH as opposed to the gossip. Time is too short. And lately I want to be FAITHFUL and live .
May the LORD richly bless you and i subscribed so i hope that you give more Bible study videos. I'll review with my notebook and take notes. My favorite subjects: History and Biblical Prophecy.
Happy Sabbath to you and yours. MARANATHA WATCHMAN.
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God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. “Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them” (Matthew 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church.
It is clearly a particular denomination. Rev 14:12 states “here is the patience of the saints (those waiting for His return, not all denominations are), those who keep Gods commandments (only 1 denomination keeps all 10 of the commandments) and those who have the faith of Jesus (not all denominations believe Jesus is the son of God). Only 1 denomination fits all 3 and give the 3 angels messages. There are many in other Christian denominations and religions (including atheists) that will join Gods church at the crunch time just before probation closes as they are called out of Babylon (systems that teach false doctrines).
Pastor, many of those that leave the denomination, whether by choice or through being kicked-out, are not "leaving" the Church. They still claim to be Adventists. They know that not being attached to the organization in itself is not God's remnant Church.
My personal concern is that the church is no longer teaching the message of the Almighty God and the Lamb of Revelation, His only begotten Son. Also, while Loma Linda is directly UNDER the GC it has failed greatly. (There are other examples, but for one, the church there has promoted an LGBTQ graduation celebration and the hospital provides elective abortions which breaks the 6th commandment. The church should sell our hospitals and institutions that break God's commandments.)
Curious if you are giving THEM the straight testimony? Yet you want to AGITATE those of us who believe in the "three great worthies," but NOT the Trinity? You want to orchestrate our shaking out?
You say it's a serious thing and that you must agitate. Is that so prople like me are shaken OUT!?
We don't disfellowship the above persons, but we will shake and agitate someone like myself? I consider myself a true member. Your position breaks my heart.
"God has a church upon the earth, made up of his chosen, commandment-keeping people. 𝗛𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘆 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝘀𝗵𝗼𝗼𝘁𝘀, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗮 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲.The truth is a sanctifying power, but 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝘁𝗿𝗶𝘂𝗺𝗽𝗵𝗮𝗻𝘁. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗮𝘁. “Wilt thou then that we gather them up,” was the question asked by the servants. But the Master answered, “Nay; lest, while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.” The gospel net drew not only good but bad fish as well; and the Lord knows them that are His." EA 98.2
😊 love the no go show. God bless you 🙏
Same to you!
Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon. His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God....
The brethren don't seem to understand what is the church? Is God coming for the conference? Or is God coming for his church? What comes first the church or conference? There was God's church long before there was a conference. Please don't confuse the two saints.
Thank God for the "Offshoots" They are the only ones who have been blowing the trumpet with a certain sound. These are the only watchmen who are not afraid to "Bark".
The "Organization" is not the church. The people who love Jesus and keep His commandments is the "Church"
There cannot be a shaking and sifting in the people of God who are keeping the commandments of God. The shaking and sifting takes place in the church that is composed of both wheat and tares. This cannot be the invisible church of the people of God but the visible church. For there will be no point of a warning of the shaking if it only takes place in the invisible church. It is because the visible church will be shaken that is why we are warned.
Furthermore, you said the organized church is not the church. Did you know that goes directly in opposition to what God has said?
Beware of those who arise with a great burden to denounce the church..... - {3SM 17.2}
I tell you, my brethren, the Lord has an organized body through whom he will work. There may be more than a score of Judases among them, there may be a rash Peter who will under circumstances of trial deny his Lord. There may be persons represented by John whom Jesus loved, but he may have a zeal that would destroy men’s lives by calling down fire from heaven upon them to revenge an insult to Christ and the truth. But the great Teacher seeks to give lessons of instruction to correct these existing evils. He is doing the same today with his church. He is pointing out their dangers. He is presenting before them the Laodicean message. - {3SM 17.3}
Do you think that the Peters and Judases could be in the leadership as well? Yes. But does it change the fact that God has an organized body? No.
This is great time of deception. Inspiration is clear:
When anyone is drawing apart from the organized body of God’s commandmentkeeping people, when he begins to weigh the church in his human scales and begins to pronounce judgment against them, then you may know that God is not leading him. He is on the wrong track. - {3SM 18.4}
Let’s all get back on the right track. God bless.
Amen
"God has a church upon the earth, made up of his chosen, commandment-keeping people. 𝗛𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘆 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝘀𝗵𝗼𝗼𝘁𝘀, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗮 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲.The truth is a sanctifying power, but 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝘁𝗿𝗶𝘂𝗺𝗽𝗵𝗮𝗻𝘁. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗮𝘁. “Wilt thou then that we gather them up,” was the question asked by the servants. But the Master answered, “Nay; lest, while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.” The gospel net drew not only good but bad fish as well; and the Lord knows them that are His." EA 98.2
Offshoots do now trumpet but they have heresies. God only have one fold. Jesus said that.
God have an organized body. Look at the human structure. Even thou some members weak. We should unite and keep the body together as what the apostle Paul said. We cannot come out of which is not Babylon thou the tendencies exist.
All these GC apologist failed to prove what is the church? All they believed is that the GC is the church.They failed to read and see Jesus was not part of the Sanhedrin church at that time,whst John the Baptist, Elijah, Jeremiah and tbe others....why are they staying away from the example of Jesus? What does SOP said that constitute 'The Church?' What i would line all these apologist to do ,is all SOP quotes that pertain to a particular subject ,is to compile them and discuss... I observed they arw taking quotes out of context,or misapplying them.
the church is God's faithful people.
Thanks you thru the H/S made it clear.
It will be a shaking out of what we once believed. Not out a physical building.
Luke 21 John 9 physical kicked out
Amen!
I am asking where is the church is it with a conference that already converted the Catholic
In Adventist today our message is gone, so where is the church we should go to listen to the present truth message
Good Morning Bro Norlon, Thank you for these studies. I have a question. Are we right now in judgment? Or the earth being judged? If you may help me please
Sir: Ellen White separated herself from the conference organization when she became a board member of Madison College.
Does the "Remnant " remain in Jesus or in a physical place?
In Christ Alone!
@@msladymack1960Amen!
When Ganoune Diop a GC leader being paid by God's holy tithe publicly supports the papacy and ecumenism should we remain under such apostasy and say God will take care of the matter...
When Loma Linda University of which Ted Wilson is a board member hires a Catholic Priest as a chaplain and promotes the idolatrous ceremony of Ash Wednesday, should we remain under and support this system...
When Israel rebelled at the Jordan God commended Phinehas son of Eleazer for using the javelin against the apostate leader...where is Phinehas today?
Happy Sabbath ❣️ I believe he addressed this. From what I understand, there are these strange things that are occurring in the SDA church to fulfill the prophesy of the Sifting. This process is ordained by God for a purpose. From this Sifting, those that remain are part of the "one fold" that Jesus foretold would happen.
Those who are calling in out the actions of the GC, remain yet in the church. If we chose to leave, where would we put ourselves? Is there a new movement that will be created that would match the Revelation church? If our church has been infiltrated, does He who "sees the evil and the good", not know it? Is He insufficient to steer the ship into port?
I believe we "stand still and see the salvation of the Lord". Jesus said "...the gates of Hell shall not prevail..."
I'm not preaching at, nor lecturing any. I feel this is the time to be instant, constant in prayer for the Latter Rain, for the leaders and lay of the church and for ourselves and loved ones.
Desire of ages chapter 23
The church was before the cooperation of the regime GC and it will be after it's foundation is removed God's church is not the GC to depart from the faith was never to leave or are kicked out of the organisation of a denomination John 9 desire of ages 23 it is to reject Christ comandment or law his word
When my Pastor tells me that the bible doesn’t mean what it says.
That I need special hermeneutical understanding to truly understand what the bible means
and that patriarchal mysoginistic men such as Moses and Paul wrote from the culture of their day using their own understanding should I stay…..?
I do not attend to imbibe error but I will hold firmly to the truth this movement has been entrusted with. God knows false shepherds have scattered his sheep and He will deal to it.
In seeing the stance of the church regarding Rome today, do you think Sunday law will be accepted by the leadership or will they oppose Sunday law that carries death penalty, risk cancellation of its legal registration, tax exemption, risk its church buildings being taken and their hospitals taken by the government? If stand true to God will God miraculously continue to register all levels of conference structure during that time so the boat is still intact?
Amen 🙏
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A good chart by the way
I just have one question. I have never read that the investigative judgement passes from the living to the dead after the Sunday law and after we are sealed. Every single passage I have ever read says we will not know when it passes from the living to the dead. Please give a reference for this statement. Blessings
Is it possible that those who are against God's remnant church (SDA) as is clearly shown in the SOP can pretend that they are for the TRUTH when the real aim is to separate the honest from the vehicle that God has chosen? Absolutely it is. Whatever arguments against this sermon have been given, including those on the LIVE CHAT REPLAY are doing nothing to the clear truth presented in this sermon. Greetings from Malawi. God bless the SDA Church.
The third angel message speaks of patience of the saints that is why no sanction is given to draw part from the organized body. What offshoots dont understand is thay they are unbelievers because they hate patience. They love comfort and to be seen and heard of men. They think God can have many folds. Jesus only established one fold whom he is leading. He is cleaning uniting his fold not dividing it.
I don‘t understand the discourse of the shaking. First the three conditions were given that would result in some no longer coming to church (some have already left): the straight testimony, heresies and the mark of the beast crisis. Then when you asked the question under topic under the sifting: what happens to sinners after the sifting? The answer was - they‘re out. Then you made reference to Matthew 13:24-30 about the wheat and tare growing together until harvest (the end of the world). Then it is said the sinners are in the church together with the saints. Are you saying the agitation caused by the shaking cause some to leave the church but, with sifting there will be some sinners that are sifted out but are still present in the church (though they’re lost) to help purify or make the remnant holy?
Hi Pastor, would like to know if the remnant that remain remain in a structure or remain in the 3 angels messages. Are you suggesting that the remnant is the structure?
A lot of people are missing the message. Its not about staying under the leadership of the church. Its about staying in the church as a whole. The leadership and the laity make up the GC and the whole church. There is far far more laity in the church than leaders. That's whats meant by staying in the church, the SDA remnant Church, not off shoot churches. To many peope are letting pride get in the way of staying the course God has set for us from the beginning.
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You do not understand the bible, it's the Remnant not the Remnant Church that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus. The Remnant Church is Ladoceia which is spewed out of Christ's mouth. Ladoceia, the last of the seven churches in Revelation.
@@cityoftruth503 Oh I'm sorry my brother, I understand the Bible just fine. For you to say I don't just proves what spirit is coming from your mouth. You must be a separatist I guess. Christ's church will be a unified church, not a bunch of offshoots. All churches are basically Laodecean today, especially our church, so your point is?
You still do not understand.
@biblicalendoftimes9677 Come out of her, my people, including the GC SDA which will be a part of Babylon. You really think people like Ganone Diop are going anywhere?
You really think those pushing the LGBTQ agenda are going to leave .They are not leaving the GC they will change it from within, just like those Pastors who supported Desmond Ford.
If according to your chart the sifting heavily happens during sunday law. Sunday law will cancel any structure that doesn't comply including the SDA structure if they refuse to keep Sunday. Where is the boat at this time? Is the boat based on structure or obedience through grace th the 3 angels messages?
In the time of Jesus Christ why John baptist separate himself from the leader then
“The remnant remains “. “I left because……..”
“Stay with the ship”
“ The shaking, the sifting “
The main question we all need to ask ourselves is REMAIN WHERE?
We therefore must remember that God’s Remnant Church is clearly defined as those Who keep the Commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
That is the church brethren.
The Church is not defined as a corporate structure with a GC and Administration . These are supposed to be GOOD SHEPHERDS in God’s church. If they aren’t, they too will be sifted out in like manner of those of the Old Testament Church who partnered with ROME .
So, ease up on the sheep for now and turn your attention on the Shepherds. How are they leading and protecting God’s sheep? The COVID crisis is part of the shaking.
God help us please.
When yoy say "left the church" are you saying the they went back to the world, started doing wordly living, went back to sinning? Please clarify
If a person is part of the 144,000 and follows the Lamb and the Lamb tells that person to leave the nominal SDA church who teaches Spiritualism as defined in chapter 67 of the book Patriarchs and Prophets, is this person still on the boat?
Exactly! He is being paid by the Conference!
Your message makes me so angry!! Do you think that the physical buildings will be open when the Sunday Law is passed??? The Remnant who believe the same thing and not in bed with Rome will huddle together and take this message to the rest of the world 🌍 I wonder if he watched the meeting that the SDA Conference had with the Catholic Church last week? Did he hear them say that the PROTEST is over and we are all CATHOLICS? So God’s people who want no part of that must remain??? Does this preacher realize as well that the quote from Sister White about staying on the ship and remaining with the Conference was in 1901??? WE ARE NOW IN THE 20TH Century!!! Things have changed! She was speaking for her time! If Sister White was alive now do you think she’d say remain? Hell no!!
"There have been and always will be tares among the wheat, the foolish virgins with the wise, those who have no oil in their vessels with their lamps. There was a covetous Judas in the church Christ formed on earth, and there will be Judases in the church in every stage of her history. But because there are such, it does not do away with the fact that God has a church. There were murmurers, envious and jealous ones in the tribes of Israel, journeying to the promised Canaan; but, notwithstanding, God led them by a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night.
The deceitful hearts of individuals will lead them astray because they see imperfections in the church, but these very ones have defective characters that they do not discern. These very ones are capable of being useful in the church were they connected with the great Head of the church. But if they choose to be presumptuous, and in self-sufficiency draw off on some tangent, the church will move on without them. Every member of the church is bound by the most solemn vow to advance its interests and to labor unselfishly and devotedly for its success." ST October 23, 1879, par. 10
They that will be doers of the word are building securely, and the tempest and storm of persecution will not shake their foundation, because their souls are rooted to the eternal Rock.-Letter 108, October 28, 1886,
When Paul was Saul was he part of the remnant or was he part of Zion - the chosen of God?🤔
The ark is Jesus not the organization 🙌
And who says the judgement of the living cannot begin before the last test? Did God tell us that at Sunday law he beginning with the living? I thought when God finished with the dead then he would move to judge the living (order). I did not know it depends on the mark of the beast.
Even thou the mark of the beast is a sealing time for the living, this is not evidence to say that the judgement of the living cannot start before this time.
@revelation.. those who have forsaken the truth now still have a chance to repent of their sins and can become a part of the church again. isn't that possible?
Conference organization?🎉...why not Put God's remnamt church?
Draw apart from what🤔
STAY ON THE SHIP THAT TEACHES THE WINE OF BABYLON?? GOD FORBID!
The righteous will remain in the truth not ina building during presentation the building will close but the remant will be unmovable mr diop said to ont preach the third angels message you need to address that
what is the last message that faithful seventh-day adventists will give? is it not the message from heaven found in Revelation 18:4?
Another wrong application of the Sunday Law! Some prophesies are not to be fulfilled in the literal sense the way we suppose, the serpent is a cunning creature. Why pass a literal Sunday Law when all he needs to do is to make SDAs disregard and pollute the sabbath, and this he has achieved to a greater extent, just going to church on Saturday is not sabbath-keeping. Those who wait for an open National Sunday Law for them to rebuke sin and apostacy in the church will come back to their senses when it is too late!
You could as well be wrong
The death decree is in the sixth plague when Satan comes down as an angel of light and persuade the kings for the battle of Armageddon. Look back in the book Great controversy and read the events surrounding the sixth plague please.
Please know that Jesus is the "Ship" not the conference organization, before there was a GC there was a church. If the GC no longer exists, there will be a Church.
Are you implying GC is the church? I don't think that's what he's saying...
Christ would still go into the synagogues (whose leaders were the pharisees, Sanhedrin etc) and preach. Did it mean the Sanhedrin was the church? No I don't think so.
Brother you are misleading the people the operative word REMAIN is this in the organisation in the building or is it in Christ the word his way if you are teaching REMAIN in the organisation your presentation is misleading all through the scripture the abiding and remain is in Christ not a building and organisation when one stand for the word and is excommunicated from membership are you saying that they should recant for coming back into membership your message isn't straight matt 18:20 desire of ages chapter 23 you know many other text and references
The sifting and shaking does NOT mean the physical buildings! It will be a sifting and shaking out of the truth!!!
The word remains is the same word abiding found in the Scriptures John 15 through out Paul's writing and 1john it's simply stay in Christ but one can only depart from the faith when the manifestation of Christ in his life is rejected not the indoctrinational concept many true points but the false application is dangerous brother (Father have mercy on us free us please from the doctrine of men
The GC is Not the church!!! The church!! The Remnant ‘remains’ does NOT mean in the apostate church building!!!
Brother... your sermon is very good.. but you need to understand that the General Conference is not the church. The church is Gods faithful people who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus. Where two or three are gathered in my name, that is Gods church. 2 Timothy 2:19, God knows which people belong to Him. The true church of God cannot be seen.. yet. until the 7 last plagues.. then will be revealed Gods people.
Storm and tempest will sweep away the structure. In the last days, there will possible be no GC.
The remnant remain in the truth - they will not remain with an apostate leadership. The remnant will come out of an Apostate system that has accepted Rome as its master. And just before Titus returns to destroy Jerusalem, Gods people, the remnant will have left as per Jesus command.
So, good message but hit the nail on the head.... Philp - Papua New Guinea.
Are you saying that when you leave the church you are lost? Are you teaching that only those in the organisation will be saved? Are you saying that salvation is in the church? I hear what you are saying and thats what you are teaching.
How can a person remain on a ship that is joining hands with Rome? You got to be kidding!!!
Jesus said it was His Church. There was nothing said about a corporate entity.
It’s been said that none of the SDA pioneers could join if they were alive today because they couldn’t agree to the 28 fundamentals of today’s SDA church.
I believe the off-shoot groups is the loud cry you’re looking for.