Peavey Invective 120 - Demo
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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I had a blast playing that amp for the last 5 months.
I hope I didn't destroy it too much for you, Ryan.
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Shut up...
I work in shipping and receiving and truth is we could really get away with this stuff left and right if we pleased so respect the people that bring you the carp you buy
JayDog or you could just do the job you get paid for like a professional rather than demanding respect for doing it like you’re doing people a favour.
Periphery IV : Riffs, Beards and Gear
Ilian Petit God I want that album so bad
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@@MickZarco PIV Producer Pack : The Dream Warriors
This is the best sounding amp you've demoed in a while honestly. At least to my ears. Thick and gnarly, with the perfect amount of bite and hair.
Great idea to have shared EQ for crunch/lead rather than clean/crunch. I can't say for others but I usually set up my crunch and lead channels quite similarly. Having and independent EQ for cleans makes it so I can have a usable clean channel by itself without having to redial anything when I switch to crunch or lead. I wish more amp makers did that!
Misha's stuff is so well thought out.
its hereeeee
Please do the PRS MT15. I would love to see how it stacks up to some of the bigger amps you deal with.
THIS!
YES PLEAASEEEE
MT15's are awesome amps!
Apparently it gets loud AF, like, people in bands were told to lower the volume of this 15 watts amp because it was too loud during band practice. Apparently that's what you get when you put 6L6s in a mini 15 watts amp, heh.
Luke Roush they’re amazing but much too loud
Holy cow that sounded amazing, huge tone dude!
i mean, Misha said that it was a 5152 Block letter that they modded the shit out of.. so, basically, its still a 5150, in its bones.
$1900 for the head, $700 for the cab! If that's cheap I have a couple things I'd like to sell you at a "Cheap" price. 🎵🎸
Lol. This is the cheapest amp I'm considering by a long shot. Hell a dual recto is 500-700 dollars more.
@@Knoxvillemoto Thank God for the used market. I've stumbled on Rectos for $600 to 900 whereas there are no Invectives in the second hand market.
Hopefully these things will sell well so us poor folks can buy them used later on.
EDIT: NOT SURE WHERE THE AMP IS MADE. DOING MORE RESEARCH NOW.
We were promised it was going to be made in USA... Which may have justified the $1900 price tag. But hearing stories of some reliability issues is enough for me to stay away from this Chinese risk. I'd much rather grab a 5150 III for $100 less. Made in mexico (might have switched production to vietnam now) and three channels with FULL EQ control.
Great vid as always sir
Dude Mexico makes good stuff to be honest.
It IS made in the USA. The China thing has just been a weird rumour.
Mexico makes a lot of good stuff. I agree. I apologize if I sounded like I was poopin on their products.
Interesting. I'll have to look into it more. I'm gonna edit my comment in the meantime to avoid spreading false garbage.
@@soad11dude Your good I was just adding the they make good stuff. I love my MiM Strat.
This amp is just amazing! Completely blows the 5150, 6505 out of the water! The versatility is impressive bc the amps I mentioned weren't so much imo. I'm thinking I need to pick one of these up! Very impressed!
I’ve been waiting a long time for this review. Can’t believe you didn’t do a side-by-side comparison with a 5150/6505. Come on Fluff!!
Had the privilege of trying one along with other high-end amps when I went on vacation in Japan a couple of weeks ago. To be honest, I had a lot of trouble dialing it in. I thought it would be as simple as 12-noon knobs, moderate gain, then boost and gate for that modern sound. Except I got some weird, overly processed and sort of fuzzy gain no matter how much I tweaked the depth control, presence, EQ, etc. I really wanted to like it because its features are amazing. Maybe I just needed more time with it, but I ended up moving on to other amps and having MUCH more fun with an OG 5150 (mean sounding as fuck), an ENGL Invader 2 (tighter than a nun), and the Mesa Triple Crown (meaty as hell) also in the same store.
All three seemed to be loud as sin, but could handle lower volumes and balls better than the Invective. Although I am very willing to accept that I just dialed the damn thing wrong and moved on quickly lmao.
With that said, this demo does sound good. Wasn't a big fan of Ola's demo because I heard that overly processed, pure fuzzy pre-gain sound I experienced in person but I'd love to try give the amp another chance if I come across another one.
we NEED that riff in a Rest, Repose song!
Sounds really good honestly.
The price is a hair high for me - I could get a used KSR Orthos for that much.
"...you have a whole bunch of features that you don't normally see in a production amp that doesn't cost thousands and thousands of dollars."
[is $1900]
Dang it Fluff, you really had this broke college student hoping for a second. For that sound though, I think it might be worth it. That demo got me excited!
Sounds sweet!!! As always. Been watching you for about 5 years now. Can you be the first reviewer that starts a trend and does several reviews on the same amp? Plus, I'd like to hear an EVH 6l6 too. You never reviewed it. Take the evh el34/6l6 and dial the mids down all the way, treble up and bass up. A metal player from Seattle showed me that. He said, he adds a boost and an eq but I don't think that it needs it. I'd like to see what you come up with using your gear.
Woah, now there's a bass tone!
Edit: the Invective also sounds nice :)
I'm gonna have to get this! To my ears it's the best sounding amp out there! I would take this over a mark v, any diezel, anything, sounds amazing and the features, and that pedal man, this amp is simply amazing!
It's fucking awesome!
My buddy put his up for sale the next day after playing my Diezel.
The Peavey Ultra Plus 120 is reborn!!
Keep the midi, go down to channel 1 and 2, make it so you can turn off the cab emulation and go directly into an interface, knock it down to 30 Watts and get rid of all the other features. That’d be the ultimate small head. Even at $700 it’d probably sell like crazy.
You just described the 6505 MH.
Jarod Fleming does the 6505 mini have midi? It’s also not loud enough to play live with. But if it has midi and had just some more power then that’d be sick too.
Oops I midi the midi part.
*missed
Jarod Fleming I mean a 30 watt 6505 mini with midi function would be so sick. Maybe have real el34s or 6l6s in it.
The TONE! Add to cart.
This sounds extremely amazing!
This amp sounds great...until I compared it to a Mesa Triple Crown. The Mesa's cleans are so much more pleasant and the other channels are as good if not better IMO. The peavey might possibly sit better in a mix as it has a lot of mids, especially when you have really low tuned guitars and 7s and 8s and what not....but we spent the whole night trying to get the Peavey to sound like the Mesa...rather than the other way around. You can almost make the Mesa sound however you want, the Peavey..if you don't love how it sounds...there isn't a ton you can do.
Still a great amp with a lot of great features...but the Mesa is only slightly more expensive and it's the much more versatile amp IMO. I canceled my Invective order (partly because it kept getting delayed...and pushed back a month each time) and ordered a TC-50 instead.
Cool story bro I know...
Just ordered TC 100 yesterday
Dual Rec. That's all I'm sayin
Actually I really appreciate this observation. I have been wanting to know how the TC sounds compared to other amps. I’ve got a Mesa Roadking II and it’s very versatile as well (120 something combinations of tones) but it is still a rectifier; therefore, it still has the flubby lows for extended guitars without a boost. For some stupid reason I’m kinda a purist when it comes to amps. I prefer not to have to use a boost if possible.
Josh Hernandez I like being able to shape my tone however fits the song and not. The Invective seems to have a good amount of compression on the clean channel. Nothing wrong with that, but you can’t turn it off either. I tend to prefer minimal compression if any at all on cleans. I at least want to control it.
The TC just has such a higher definition on the clean channel. It’s like good headphones vs amazing headphones. It doesn’t sound bad, in fact it sounds better than a lot of amps clean channel, but the Mesa sounds way better. Idk that it’s even a matter of taste, it just sounds better. Much more clarity.
The invective more or less has a precision drive built in. Great feature, but I already have that pedal.
I’d much rather add a pedal to get the sound I want and be in full control than be sorta stuck with a certain tone.
That’s just sorta how I feel about the invective. I get why it was designed the way it was, but if you don’t love the sound, IMO there isn’t a whole lot you can do. It’s almost versatile in a narrow scope if that makes sense. For Periphery, totally see the thought process. You got three guitarists, low tunings, and you need something to cut.
Again it’s a bad ass amp, it sounds great and has a lot of features.
For me, once I heard the Mesa, there was no going back. What works in the studio doesn’t always translate and vice versa...maybe the Invective shines more there. For just jamming, the Mesa all day.
The built in reverb on the TC-100 also sounds amazing. Really smooth spring reverb that doesn’t have that annoying twang at the end that a lot springs do. It’s only there if you max it. Which for me, that’s what I like. 🤷♂️
Can always be like my buddy and have both 😂😂
I got the chance to play a TC-50 at Sweetwater a couple months back, and was underwhelmed. The high gain channel is too fizzy on the top, and muddy on the bottom. The tight switch helps, but it cuts off too much bottom end, leaving the sound thin. I think I'll stick to a 5150 to get a 5150 sound.
Not a huge Peavey fan but that thing sounds pretty decent. Maybe a little bit fizzy but not in a bad way. Also, I said it before but your playing is so much better after this last tour. Tight.
Nice riffs. Has a post hardcore feel that I love.
Great work Faceplate is totally Star Wars!! Cheers and rock on!!
Would love to see a shoot out between this and the classic 5150 and/or a 6505+
On the clean channel I use a Boss GT-8 with it. Every default setting sounds unbelievable. I get an amazing metal tone with the wall of 8x12's setting, like old school Thrash. Nicely scooped.
Thanks for doing a nice, through explanation of this amp, and showing everything it can do. It was cool to hear a variety of styles of music played on it. Seems like a versatile amp!
the fishman pickup looks gorgeous on that guitar
Years ago I thought Peavey just wasn't a good amp company. Brother had a cheap one and I went down the Marshall path. about 7 years into playing guitar realized I was chasing a Heavy tone that I just couldn't find. Went into a guitar shop and asked what was the heaviest metal amp they had. That day I took home a 6505 and I'll put my money were my mouth is to other guitarists with that thing that It is a bareknuckle bitch from Hell Cranked. Props to Peavey for Killing it with these Metal amps .
Balaguer Growler for the MFing win! Was there an amp demo at the beginning of this? I was too busy drooling over that beauty to notice. For the record though, I have never played a Peavey I didn't like, and that includes bass amps, hybrids, and solid states, but I will admit I have never touched one of the VIP modelers. Awesome video as always Fluff, and don't you dare stop living the dream amigo. Cheers!
All they gotta do is keep pumping out the 6505/vypyr stuff and they'll be good forever yet they still make new amps which is cool
my vypyr 120H is still a beast, even next to my mesa and orange i finally bought, what with not being a broke teenager anymore.
Been thinking about buying one for fun, even though I have my Boss Katana 2x12 and Boss GT-1000. More stuff to fart around with.
I love my vip3. I still have my vypyr 120, which is great, but rarely use it just because tubes. Plus the vip is just so much lighter and easier to take with.
Awsome Ryan. That amp is really interesting. Ive been wanting to get my hands on one for awhile. Thanks man !!!
LOVE that Balaguer
120 watts and channel volume and master volume on 8!!!!!
My only problem Fluff, is you make everything sound so good ;)
Awesome Review, seemed a little rushed. I have had this amp for 5 months and it's very versatile. clean channel is dece, but really shines when you experiment with the OD. Crunch channel is my go to with the OD engaged tightens up the bottom end and pushes the mids, improved the clarity at rehearsals (lots of notes and metal riffing) channel 3 is set for leads. I love the 5150 sound, this is my favorite incarnation. I a/b with my 5150 ii and it's better imho. Not a huge fan of the emulated out. I prefer my v30 mesa 4x12 and 57 combo.
As a UPS employee, I would like to say... It happens all the time, and no, we're not sorry. 😂
Edit: Wicked sounding amp, by the way. Sounds similar to my 5150 III, but perhaps more versatile.
Paul As a fellow UPS employee, I both agree with and verify what this man is saying.
No wonder I hate UPS so much nowadays. Y'all are a bunch deecks! ;P
Used to work for ups. Those workers threw a mothafuckin flat screen tv. DO NOT ship ups lmfao
Kolton McCallister Yep, definitely ship through Fed Ex. I always do.
To be fair, I don't think FedEx is any better. If I remember correctly, it was actually a FedEx driver that was caught on camera throwing a TV over the fence.
Glad it finally made it's way to you!
That Riff is great... I think you already used it on another demo. Please make a song out of it and invite me to sing that song!
luispower1979 at least 3 demos to be exact (with different variations)
I couldn't really hear much difference between channel 2 and 3 at the full gain settings. Cool if you wanna use one for heavy rhythm and the other for solos though for the high gain metal, though; it's what I do for OD1 and OD2 on my choke modded Marshall JVM 410 head.
Guess it depends on the footswitch (or bring your own midi switch) to get your clean and crunch out of channel 1 if you're looking for that, too
Sounds ok. I would take a Marshall DSL over this for tone.
Sounds great, but I'm not in love with the faceplate. Looks like a cheap consumer grade 3D printing.
@Chris E. well I'm sorry, but maybe if I'm paying almost two grand for an amp, maybe I'd like it to be made out of some quality components that won't break, or is that too much to ask for? :^)
Looks looks like a Diezel.
But not as cool as a diezel, not even close.
I wouldn't consider mesa or orange of that much greater quality(if at all) than the invective. Even though it's a peavey(6505's and such are production, yes), these invectives are still being built in the USA, like mesa's(so I've heard, don't @ me). & Orange amps are mostly production, excluding a few of the pricier ones like the CS50(custom shop hand-wired). Friedman amps are all hand-wired, however the BE50 is mean't to be a cheaper variant of the BE100 for those who aren't able to spend(or flat out don't want to spend $3800 on another friedman). Overall the damn look of an amp shouldn't be a concern. Overall, tone matters way more than aesthetics.
Oh gotcha. Got the feeling you were saying amps of higher quality that were in that same price range. But in all fairness, what I assumed still works with what amps you're mentioning. Thanks for clarification though. But still a BE50 is $3499, so that's out the window. & I like the mention of synergy. That stuff looks very interesting.
I dig your reviews sir, so I pose this question;
I see this amp, I’ve seen the Hughes and Kettner’s that have the direct out, then I look at the Helix, and similar, and then Amp Sims like Positive Grid and similar.
If you had to have one of what’s out there for your home practie/ playing and recording needs, what would you pick? A budget pick of say, $1000, and then a no budget pick. And maybe they’re the same pick.
Curious on your thoughts.
That first song demo play through was killer!
Hey Fluff, it seems like you rarely mic up amps these days. Do you use loadboxes for the convenience factor, for the silence, or what?
So many studio guys all use load-boxes, Torpedo Cab sims, etc. Why not just use all digital stuff anyway? Setting up all these tube amps and load boxes and cab sims seems like blowing out a candle with a jet engine.
Miking up cabs sounds infinitely better in my experience.
as apposed to miking them up later? How does miking them up (immediately) sound infinitely better? I find that miking up a cab with great validity leads to intermediate sounds......
My bad-edited that out- I meant that the results you get from miking a cab are more immediately awesome than going direct/using IR's/sims/etc. I just leave my mic setup the way it is, and wheel in the amp I need when recording.
isolate your cab , find 2 spots on your speaker one for the low mid and treble guitars and one for the high mid and treble guitars . record your guitar or duplicate the track 4 times all in mono , then pan the tracks as follow
low guitars 100 right 100 left , high guitars 68 left 68 right. compressor and 5 band amp eq would work magic along.
That first song demo sounds like a good song for RR
Damn it's been a minute since I heard a fluff demo that actually sounded sick letsgooo
I didn't really get your honest take on it. You usually do really helpful and descriptive videos and I dig your channel. I'd be curious to know your thoughts vs 5150 6505+ and evh 5150 III.
Hope you all don't forget about the Undercover Boss episode with Peavey. If not you can find it readily available here on RUclips.
Yeah??Didn't know they did an episode wid Peavey.
I shat my pants with the brown notes.
So much brown...
Nice amp, but it is thousands and thousands of dollars. I don't know why you said it wasn't. It's actually 2.000€ in Thoman and thats OMG expensive!
Sounds like it's got the fizz thing going on rather that the lumpy chunk, but hard to tell from just this video. A little bit more of a run through of front and back would've been nice too.
Cool amp, but cool tune too, bro! That opening little ditty was nice!
ah finally! You are officially allowed to review a peavey amp! wow. Peavey found you worthy! finally
Peavey found him worthy 6 months ago, apparently. xD
or better yet. Peavey forgot to send out the package.
Omg long delivery Haha! Great tone man!
That Balaguer is so sick!
Sounds awesome just hope they don’t break after a month
I'd love to see the mix plug-in setup for the song.... Perfect mix!!!
So level with em Fluff... you keepin it?
Do you reply to comments? How easy was it to use the MSDI on this thing? Is it just plug and play? I know using amps without a cabinet is dangerous for them and I wasn't seeing a button or anything next to the MSDI to enable or disable it.
Thanks Fluff. Hope to hear back.
what string gauge you use on the green guitar? that thing sounds heavy!
APEX PREAMP? Is a very similar sound ... great videos men !!
drooling at this beast
What rig are you using that slides your camera while filming? Very slick!
Fluff, I'm wondering, do you put down the drum tracks for each video individually with a software such as EZ drummer or do you get a drum track from somewhere and then noodle over it?
this amp sounds huge
Guys I have a quick question! Do you have to have a speaker plugged in to use the MSDI? I've been running the MSDI to my interface to do recordings but I don't want to have my 2x12 plugged in as it gets pretty damn loud. The manual also makes it seem that you can just bring your head to a Venue and plug in directly to the house. Thanks in ad advance! I've been reading the manual but it doesn't seem to answer that question.
Sounds like Bugera...
May I ask what guitar (jazzmaster type) you’re using? I’ve been looking for one in that shape and want something other than fender. Or if anyone has any suggestions on companies it would be be greatly appreciated.
Great Riff. Sounds awesome!
Holy snot that jam was sick
Awesome demo!
My favorite peavey amp
Ugh, it sounds horrible outside the mix ;// Has that farty DI/mixer clipping sounds and mids are very recessed to my ears. Great in a band context tho
so like everything misha makes
So many people shit on this amp for how it sounds. After hearing your demo, I know now they just don't know how to set it up.
KaldDodeGitarist fluff didn't get it proper either.
that mix was so low end you could use the mud to make a pigpen.
C Exactly! Get Colin over here to teach him how to be haired!
@@Cole-ek7fh no way. It sounded fucking killer. But everybody has their own idea of "good tone". As a death metal lover, I like a lot of low end
@@Cole-ek7fh but this didn't sound muddy to me
Life needs a side by side comparison with the 5150MK1
what kind of mic did u use for this demo..i think may of missed that part.
God damn that sounds fucking sick
Hey Ryan, Can you post the settings you were using?
Would love a mini version with powersoak !
wish I could figure out how to get that big airy sound when recording? My recordings just sound like something recorded and played back doesn't have that big stereo sound.
Realy its a amazing distortion amp but my cuestion is ? are you using some other diferent efect pedal distortion and what is the tone of your guitar have nice day Dude !!!
Was gonnna get a 6505 plus but this is worth saving up for.
Just cos Im actually interested in buying a used Invective, tell me if Im wrong but were not hearing just the amp as of 1:30 right? Its post production if you will. Hes tweaked it.
But most of these dudes do this on these "demos". But they're not demos. lol Ola caught hell for that after awhile (good hearted) cos every amp, pickup or pedal demo all sounded alike.
So were really just sitting here watching him jam some stuff he made up. lol Tell me if Im wrong though.
The in the mix demo is of course not raw. But I will note in this case there was only the standard high pass and low pass filters and some compression added.
@@RiffsAndBeards Thanks, Ive been wondering how yall do that. And big of you to answer such a ahole comment with grace
Hey Ryan , love your videos . what song are you playing ?? it kicks ass
Holy fuck that guitar is sick.
Could anyone provide a little insight please. Looking to pick one of these up locally. I currently use an axe fx and bypass the cab sim because i run ggd cali cab sims in my DAW to give me the flexibility of changing IR's without re-recording. The MSDI section of this amp already has a mic sim built in.... is there a way for me to run the raw amp tone into my axe fx and maintain the flexibility of using my own IR's in my daw? Do i need to run an attenuator to do so and if the output knob on the attenuator gets bumped i fry my axefx? Lol. If i do need an attenuator, any recommendations for this 120w beast? Ideally I'd like that option as well and being able to play it separately through my Randall cab at bedroom levels.... any help is appreciated 🙏
Great riffs fluff!
So! So! In 💘 Love with this thing!!!
hmmm, not as good sounding as I expected, can't tell if it was how fluff dials his tones, or the amp itself
Where are those drums coming from? They sound great!
Superior Drummer 3. I don't know what pack he uses or how he processes them though.
@@lfox02 thank you!
Is it stiff like the 5150?
Buzzy at all?
Love that green guitar too. Who makes that?
Would love to hear you A/B it with 6L6 and EL34’s. Also what pickup is in the bridge of the Growler? Doesn’t look like Fishman
I would stick a 12at7 in place of a 12ax7 for the PI.
Gosh dang I love that riff. Can I use it?