I love when people just think it’s as easy as throwing money out there and the fighter becomes big. Some people are great talents but don’t have the appeal to the masses like you’d expect. So if you spend a million dollars in marketing and the fighter is only able to pull in a quarter of that then it’s bad business. The goal is how to make them more marketable to the casuals? Being undefeated is cool but what would make someone who is a fan of hockey or racing cars or shopping break away just to watch him fight? What would make another country like him? It’s wayyyy deeper than just throwing money at the problem-sometimes the fighter doesn’t resonate with the targeted audience themselves.
@@jm-ph4tt You aren't Top Rank's accountant, much less did you go to school for business and finance, but here you are speaking with empty and false confidence based on ignorance. How did your generation become this way?
I like the way Bob thinks about pay-per-view events. A lot of these comments take a single thing he said and paint him like some dumb fat oaf, but he makes good points. Standing on the principle that most fights should be free to the public otherwise the sport will start dying, it's something I can get behind regardless of his other opinions on my favorite fighters
I concur. Bob has a level head on PPV stuff. DAZN just recently wayyy overcharged for Haney v Prograis and the numbers stunk. PBC charges way too much for their PPV matches, especially with most cards not being loaded top to bottom. I can’t see them getting away with that on a new platform that’s never hosted nor is known for professional boxing. PBC will struggle mightily if they keep the same regimen
@@realtalkwithjordan8026 Exactly. In this generation, it's forbidden to think with your own mind and disagree with anyone. Pure blind rebellion. You can say anything under the sun as long as you don't disagree with anyone.
And that's exactly why Crawford should've signed with PBC. And this is coming from someone who isn't a PBC fan in the slightest. But it's obvious now that top rank had no idea what they were doing with Crawford.
Nothing he could have done. Anyone who’s unbiased could see that PBC likes to hold their belts hostage. Those guys would only make one fight a year and they supposedly had all the too contenders and three of the belts
@@christianmartinez8you can't compare the super middle weight to welterweight and plus only two of those belts were in pbc. All the top welterweights were fighting each other so If Crawford would have signed wit them sooner when everybody including Spence was encouraging him the fight would have still happened
Im really gonna miss Bob when hes gone. He's living on a reoccurring 6 month lease. The doctor keeps giving Bob 6 months to live and when Bob goes back for his appointment the doctor just gives him another 6 months
He does all these free fights and has hundreds of fighters, yet everyone talks about the PBC ppv fights way more. Maybe he should focus on his own company.
@@ShotgunSandwichENT then watch the free fights you get from Top Rank, DAZN, & Matchroom. There’s hundreds of fighters signed to those three companies, enjoy them.
He knew pacquiao could fuck around and beat his horse....even at the age of 40...trust me...even tho crawford wantd it top rank and match makers did not necessarily favor tbud over pacuiao by much...if at all..
Only people that want there to be a rematch are the same people that wont buy it. The fight was too 1 sided. It be a different story if it was a 1 punch KO but 3 knock downs was a 1 sided ass whoopin
Based on the question you know the interviewer you know he was surprised Bob Arum has no interest in resigning Crawford. The only way we'll know if he can do similar numbers in the Spence rematch. Or 300K + PPVs against someone else like Jermell, Boots or Tim Tzyu
@@uu99ful A promoters job is to promote. Manny couldn't even speak English. Canelo could not even speak English. Inoue can't speak English. There goes your argument.
@@karriemshariefInoue doesn’t demand the ridiculous amount that Crawford does. Manny and Canelo were proven draws due to their countrymen backing them. Seems like black folks don’t like backing their own.
@@Abstract.Noir414 Bob said the same thing about Floyd Mayweather and refused to give Floyd the Oscar fight. Both fighters had to leave Top Rank to make that fight. Floyd went on to become the best selling fighter of all time. Crawford landing his biggest fight after leaving Bob Arum. He's a horrible promoter. And he robbed Manny blind.
@@samueldavis5895 where ? I can't find the full fight anywhere, just highlights....or the full fight but from the audience, recorded on somebody's phone.
You are wrong. I know plenty of people wanting a rematch to see if Crawford is that good or, did Spence have a bad day? A rematch should answer this question.
The question I would ask in response to that would have been what other fight would Bob have been willing to promote if he was never going to make the Spence fight?
@@samueldavis5895 I agree, the pandemic played a small part in it I’m sure. But the truth is that Top Rank never had any intention to work with PBC to make the fight happen. If Crawford stayed with Top Rank the fight would have never happened.
Maybe if Bob arum would have gave Crawford that Pac-Man fight he would have been recognized by the casual fans.. bottom line is bob didn’t promote Crawford right
No we don’t. Nobody wants to see a fucking rematch of a one sided ass fight. What we want to see is Crawford fight other good opponents around his weight divisions
@@dquest007They tried to not promote it because they thought Haney was going to walk over Loma deep down , if they would’ve known how close it would be they would’ve promoted tf out of it
@@here4boxingit shouldn’t have been a PPV. PPV should be reserved only to fighters who do big numbers, mega fights between top elite exciting fighters and fighters who bring people to tune in.
The only reason to take Crawford before on your side is for him to fight all A side fighters and international fighters 🥊💪 and he would have incredible boxing record of all time. He is very good 👍 🙂.
Bob has a legit point... A rematch with Spence probably won't do as well and the reason for that is Spence was beaten so soundly. The fans who love to bet on boxing won't bet against Bud and no one that knows boxing thinks Spence has anything close to a chance at beating Bud now. Most of us considered that 1st fight a even match but Bud and Spence both proved it wasn't. Spence should retire. He's dealt with more than enough physical damage and he should be well enough off financially to live good from here on out.
It worked out quite well for Crawford. Arum is really being disingenuous and a little "Butt Hurt" when discussing Crawford. He admitted to keeping Manny away (and who else) from Crawford - while promoting Crawford. Um, ...??? Arum done a great job but its time to hand over the reigns to someone in their 30'-60s. Leave Crawford alone and enjoy a great career and life.
PBC are fucking awful for keeping guys active, Crawford gets this signature win in July and there’s still no word on this pointless rematch he’s being forced into
I can't wait for Bob to retire. He said Terrence Bud Crawford wasn't Marketable. But due to Politics and Racism 😢 he never wanted to Promote one of the best Pd-4-Pd fighters in the world🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ Make it make sense.🫠🙃🫠🙃
He made a lot of "progress" financially for Top Rank. He never wanted to make the Manny and Bud. I believe he knew there was a good chance Bud would beat Manny.
They are talking about numbers but Crawford vs Spence was the most rewatched fight in a decade before showtime took it down. I don’t care how these promoters feel but if Spence vs Crawford didn’t happen boxing wouldn’t have this burst of publicity like it did after the fight. Ppl were talking about that fight for months. I agree we dont need a rematch. Though. Meanwhile tank vs Garcia did 1.4 million and no one rewatched it or talked about it more than a week afterwards. Spence vs Crawford had to happen for the validity of the sport even if someone took a loss. They gonna keep playing these numbers games a throwing circus fights until the core fans stop watching the sport. When the core fans leave boxing is nothing
Crawford lack of marketability is down to the way he was promoted…. Love him or hate him, Eddie Hearn would of had Crawford on every board/TV channel/RUclips reporting outlet until everyone knew his name and placed him in the right fights/cards that would get him recognised. Bob has a good business but times have changed for how to build fighters.
Wow on prime? Really? Look at that turning people around or trying to lol he knows how to adjust and adapt doesnt he? People should really learn from him. Hes had to adjust and adapt 4 times over lol.
I disagree with bob about bud's marketability. I think bob expects fighters to do his job for him which is sort of ridiculous bc if the fighters have to do all of that then there is no need for people like bob.
He's not wrong. I been said it. It was a one-sided ass whooping, and it will be again. Nobody wants to see that. Even if the rematch is not a one-sided ass whooping, you're not convincing the people that it won't be the same as the first fight. It won't do numbers.
It' seems like you are as a promoter did a shitty job promoting your golden goose. Crawford gave you skills and knockout and you gave him shit! Like it's his fault his numbers are not good
@@Violator225it’s most black fighters who don’t fight the best though 😂😂😂. Black fighters are the ones who get the least backing from their own kind than anyone yet are also the ones who ask for the most money. Mexicans back their own all the time, as do Ricans, Filipinos, etc….And they all come to fight anyone anywhere. Loma was from that same fold, and he never demanded ridiculous amounts of money like you fools do. Floyd really did fuck up your ways of thinking. Y’all went from the likes of Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield, etc…to fucking divas of today 😂😂😂.
Bro ?? Let the Boxers Box … don’t just let the arena fillers Box ?? Get smaller arenas ??? Duuuh ?? Boxing shouldn’t line everyone involved pockets only ??? Damn !!!It’s almost like saying don’t let 16-0 Titans play football. Until they are Super Bowl material.
Exactly sports like NFL and NBA don't need PPV because they get a lot sponsorship and advertising money. The PPV is dying and that's a lot of money leaving boxing
What makes Terrence Crawford not marketable?? maybe because he doesn’t sell himself self short (the things many do for fame) surely there’s a market for trash talk fighters, flamboyant in/out the ring. That was floyd recipe and it worked. Why wasn’t arum saying this when he was 20 fights in with Crawford, 30 fights…no because they build them up just to rinse & repeat champions and throw dirt on them why they couldn’t market them.
700k ppv buys against spence. crawford is one of the biggest stars in boxing since he left arum. mayweather did the same. fhe problem arum didnt want bud to be a star. he wanted lomachenko to be the star. but loma kept losing and lost all the belts. bob is bitter and racist.
@@cutthewicked700K buys in what was supposed to be the most anticipated fight between two undefeated American fighters, both p4p and both KO artists. That shit should have been over a million buys, period. So no, Crawford ain’t a star, if he was, he would be doing those type of numbers fighting nobodies. Canelo did a little more than that against Caleb fucking Plant, whom nobody even in his hometown knows who the fuck he is. THAT is star power.
OP is 100% correct. Todays young black fighters demand a ridiculous amount of money and they don’t move the needle at all and more importantly, they avoid all the best fights
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn says you? whos to say it was suppose to be over a million buys. especially in this economy. it did what it did and bud is the subject of every boxing channel. hes been on every mainstream media outlet. what are u talking about? sounds like u just hating tbh. canelo has a big mexican fan base in MEXICO. an entire country plus his american fans. if u want to compare canelo to someone, compare him to floyd mayweather.
Bob needs to stop always hating on Crawford also promoters need to stop thinking of the pocket lost. What happen to the love of the sport giving us who live and breath this sport what is deserve. I have respect for Bob abs what he has done but I have to disagree looking to see what’s going happen with prime now let’s go 🎉
Bob I don't think you're being honest but more vengeful than anything because of the breakup! Terrance Crawford Brand didn't match up with his Boxing Talent! However to blame him is completely wrong that Promo Marketing & Networking his brand was outdated! To go along with that to spoon feed a fighter or to keep him on a rope he will never be happy! Let the fighters fight & Managers/ Promtors do their job to build Mega Stadium fights!
Shakur needs to learn how to put a beating on overmatch opponent instead of putting everyone but the fighter in front of him to sleep if he ever wants to move the needle
Bob Arum is just mad that he can’t make money off him anymore. Bob is lying if he was loosing money he wouldn’t have promoted him that long . Why any fighter would have Arum as their promoter is beyond me.
Wasn't it the PROMOTER'S job to PROMOTE the fighter and make him marketable. Especially a great fighter like Crawford.
Yup that is TOTALLY a promoter's job so it was Bob's fault for that but he will never take the blame for it.
Naw Bud was supposed to promote himself and just hand over the money to Bob
@@jaysonwilliam850hahaha😂
Exactly… loma don’t promote he barely talks. I’ve never heard no one say Loma needs to promote
I love when people just think it’s as easy as throwing money out there and the fighter becomes big. Some people are great talents but don’t have the appeal to the masses like you’d expect. So if you spend a million dollars in marketing and the fighter is only able to pull in a quarter of that then it’s bad business. The goal is how to make them more marketable to the casuals? Being undefeated is cool but what would make someone who is a fan of hockey or racing cars or shopping break away just to watch him fight? What would make another country like him? It’s wayyyy deeper than just throwing money at the problem-sometimes the fighter doesn’t resonate with the targeted audience themselves.
If Bud didn’t work economically on Top Rank but did work economically on Showtime, maybe Top Rank was the issue.
He would never admit that
There was never a fight as lucrative as the Spence fight available on top rank 😂 you guys just don’t understand business & that’s fine…
@@user-if8qo5dj2i you hit the nail on the head 🫡
@user-if8qo5dj2i well he should just say that but he always blames bud
errol vs terrence would’ve worked on any network
This man is 92 years old and still goes to every event, including this one in Japan, and does interviews. Legend.
Crazy if I was him I’d be in a island just chilling waiting for death 😂
@@joelortiz8490and miss the big fights? 🤦♂️
And people still be hating on him which is crazy!
@@RobgeeeYet you hate on greatness all day shut it up you kinda people like biased opinions till it’s about your favorite fighter 😂😂😂
@@Violator225 Hate on greatness? What boxer are you referring about?
Arum has remained RELEVANT ALL THESE YEARS 🗣️💯
Good point Bob. Don't feed the greed. Make boxing more accessible like with other sports. Couldn't agree more.
Yea starve the fighters while the promoters bank all the money yea good for you
@@jm-ph4tt You aren't Top Rank's accountant, much less did you go to school for business and finance, but here you are speaking with empty and false confidence based on ignorance. How did your generation become this way?
I like the way Bob thinks about pay-per-view events.
A lot of these comments take a single thing he said and paint him like some dumb fat oaf, but he makes good points. Standing on the principle that most fights should be free to the public otherwise the sport will start dying, it's something I can get behind regardless of his other opinions on my favorite fighters
That’s bait trying to sound noble and virtuous when you know danm well his job is to get a % of the most lucrative matchups on the table
@@hakeemlecco4109lol a man being objective is now fake trying to sound noble 😂😂😂
This generation is something else man.
I concur. Bob has a level head on PPV stuff. DAZN just recently wayyy overcharged for Haney v Prograis and the numbers stunk. PBC charges way too much for their PPV matches, especially with most cards not being loaded top to bottom. I can’t see them getting away with that on a new platform that’s never hosted nor is known for professional boxing. PBC will struggle mightily if they keep the same regimen
@@realtalkwithjordan8026 Exactly. In this generation, it's forbidden to think with your own mind and disagree with anyone. Pure blind rebellion. You can say anything under the sun as long as you don't disagree with anyone.
And that's exactly why Crawford should've signed with PBC. And this is coming from someone who isn't a PBC fan in the slightest. But it's obvious now that top rank had no idea what they were doing with Crawford.
Naw bro it was all right, it was the way it was suppose to happen
If he was with pbc they'd never fight, how many belts did they have at 168 and non of them unified.
@@christianmartinez8 That's probably true.
Nothing he could have done. Anyone who’s unbiased could see that PBC likes to hold their belts hostage. Those guys would only make one fight a year and they supposedly had all the too contenders and three of the belts
@@christianmartinez8you can't compare the super middle weight to welterweight and plus only two of those belts were in pbc. All the top welterweights were fighting each other so If Crawford would have signed wit them sooner when everybody including Spence was encouraging him the fight would have still happened
He’s not promoting boxing! He’s promoting entertainment boxing!
Yea he salty he fumbled the ball with Terrence and trying to make it look like he didnt
Bob Father is still unbelievably sharp at 92, long live to the legend.
Im really gonna miss Bob when hes gone. He's living on a reoccurring 6 month lease. The doctor keeps giving Bob 6 months to live and when Bob goes back for his appointment the doctor just gives him another 6 months
He might just outlive you.
Is that supposed to be funny ???
Its from Goodfellas but he butchered the joke. Its hard to repeat the joke on the internet, so not really his fault@Freddy-kw5hq
He’s gona live 50 more years bro
@@Freddy-kw5hq buzz killington over here.
He does all these free fights and has hundreds of fighters, yet everyone talks about the PBC ppv fights way more. Maybe he should focus on his own company.
And now PBC is starting all over again. Again. Again. Again…We need free fights just like every other sport. Every fight being a ppv is ridiculous!
@@ShotgunSandwichENT then watch the free fights you get from Top Rank, DAZN, & Matchroom. There’s hundreds of fighters signed to those three companies, enjoy them.
You do know top rank had to find a network once HBO ended boxing right?@@ShotgunSandwichENT
You blocked the Pacquiao fight. Marginalizing Terence career.
Arum kept his priorities with keeping Manny away from Crawford, stunting a career
Indeed.
That was supposed to be Crawford breakout fight
Yep.
He knew pacquiao could fuck around and beat his horse....even at the age of 40...trust me...even tho crawford wantd it top rank and match makers did not necessarily favor tbud over pacuiao by much...if at all..
Arum tried to make it pacquiao fight
Only people that want there to be a rematch are the same people that wont buy it. The fight was too 1 sided. It be a different story if it was a 1 punch KO but 3 knock downs was a 1 sided ass whoopin
I was in the building, I want to see the rematch
I agree they need more free fights and no one wants to see the rematch
Speak for yourself
I agree also on both points.
@@Chalando.9431 I think the consensus is more divided than you think
@@Chalando.9431he speaks for the vast majority
Based on the question you know the interviewer you know he was surprised Bob Arum has no interest in resigning Crawford. The only way we'll know if he can do similar numbers in the Spence rematch. Or 300K + PPVs against someone else like Jermell, Boots or Tim Tzyu
Bob was doing fine intil that last question about working with other companies because Top Rank is the king of in-house fights.
He promoted Crawford horribly. He thought the first fight would do horrible.
No he didn't... Terrence didn't like to be interviewed on go on ESPN
@@uu99ful A promoters job is to promote. Manny couldn't even speak English. Canelo could not even speak English. Inoue can't speak English. There goes your argument.
@@karriemshariefInoue doesn’t demand the ridiculous amount that Crawford does. Manny and Canelo were proven draws due to their countrymen backing them. Seems like black folks don’t like backing their own.
He said crawford was a pain in the ass business wise and imm sure top rank would not have paid crawford what he got vs spence
@@Abstract.Noir414 Bob said the same thing about Floyd Mayweather and refused to give Floyd the Oscar fight. Both fighters had to leave Top Rank to make that fight. Floyd went on to become the best selling fighter of all time. Crawford landing his biggest fight after leaving Bob Arum. He's a horrible promoter. And he robbed Manny blind.
Spence vs Crawford was rewatched more than Mayweather vs Pac-Man in just 3 months. Numbers do lie
I still rewatch it.
@@samueldavis5895 where do you watch it at…I’ve been checking showtime weekly but they never put it back up
@@samueldavis5895 where ? I can't find the full fight anywhere, just highlights....or the full fight but from the audience, recorded on somebody's phone.
@@East_Texas_Gaming if you have showtime you can still pull it up and watch the full fight. Should even work with a made up email and free trial pass
But which fight sold more tho? Got it.
You are wrong. I know plenty of people wanting a rematch to see if Crawford is that good or, did Spence have a bad day? A rematch should answer this question.
And I know plenty that don't, so he's right!
lol
I wouldn't pay for it and 90% of the ones who want to see a rematch, will not pay to see it. 💯
Who needs to see if Crawford that good ? That’s asinine to say
@@Violator225 Sorry fool 😂. Eat better food.
@@MalevolentBite You need to be benevolent my malevolent being.
The question I would ask in response to that would have been what other fight would Bob have been willing to promote if he was never going to make the Spence fight?
He aint wana spend the $ lol
@@Fendersonn Cool, what other fights would he have made instead?
My thing is that the fight imo would’ve sold more had it been made earlier and properly promoted so he’s capping it would’ve been worth making
@@samueldavis5895 I agree, the pandemic played a small part in it I’m sure. But the truth is that Top Rank never had any intention to work with PBC to make the fight happen. If Crawford stayed with Top Rank the fight would have never happened.
@@Unclejack328 idk idgaf about bob arum 😂 he take care of his pockets only
Maybe if Bob arum would have gave Crawford that Pac-Man fight he would have been recognized by the casual fans.. bottom line is bob didn’t promote Crawford right
Its said that Manny asked for too much money to bob not wanting to pay crawford to blah blah blah
Punch been saying this for years. They should put some free boxing match on free tv like back in the day
Yea then they’ll really lose money 😂😂
There has been not much as of lately
Not always about number sometimes it is nice to see best in division face each other
Why did you keep Manny away from Bud? But gave Horn the payday?
*lights cigar*
Excellent question.
That is Short coming in the Promotion not the Fighter the fighter did his job
Seems like he is still mad, and Bob we the people support the rematch 100%
No we don’t. Nobody wants to see a fucking rematch of a one sided ass fight. What we want to see is Crawford fight other good opponents around his weight divisions
Bob is very smart and hes right, I was at the fight and dont want to see it again. Hes also right about PBC
Bitter old hater. He didn't state one fact about Terrance Crawford.
I believe PPV should be for special bouts
I would also like to know how much money they have lost/gained promoting Lomachenko.
They have lost on every Loma fight except the Haney fight.
@@dquest007 Haney-Loma didn't even break 150K. They either lost money or broke even. There's zero chance they made much, if anything.
Loma not asking nowhere near what Bud believes he's worth. Plus Top Rank does a better job promoting foreigners and people more drawn to his fights
None of the 3 fighter he named can beat tank.facts
@@dquest007They tried to not promote it because they thought Haney was going to walk over Loma deep down , if they would’ve known how close it would be they would’ve promoted tf out of it
“Fights should be free to the consumer” says the guy making us pay Ppv for Haney fights.
🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯
Haney vs Loma was indeed a PPV quality matchup.
@@here4boxingit shouldn’t have been a PPV. PPV should be reserved only to fighters who do big numbers, mega fights between top elite exciting fighters and fighters who bring people to tune in.
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn whether or not you think it was or wasn’t, it was a PPV caliber matchup.
The only reason to take Crawford before on your side is for him to fight all A side fighters and international fighters 🥊💪 and he would have incredible boxing record of all time. He is very good 👍 🙂.
Bob has a legit point... A rematch with Spence probably won't do as well and the reason for that is Spence was beaten so soundly. The fans who love to bet on boxing won't bet against Bud and no one that knows boxing thinks Spence has anything close to a chance at beating Bud now. Most of us considered that 1st fight a even match but Bud and Spence both proved it wasn't. Spence should retire. He's dealt with more than enough physical damage and he should be well enough off financially to live good from here on out.
It worked out quite well for Crawford. Arum is really being disingenuous and a little "Butt Hurt" when discussing Crawford. He admitted to keeping Manny away (and who else) from Crawford - while promoting Crawford. Um, ...??? Arum done a great job but its time to hand over the reigns to someone in their 30'-60s. Leave Crawford alone and enjoy a great career and life.
Bob arum should be ashamed of himself.
Bob made fighters take the tough fights. We barely see that nowadays.
Alls Ima say is… Money May used to fight on HBO when it was free ☕️🐸
Bob Aurum is the best promoter! I like the fights he promotes. Wish another Lomachenko will fight soon!
Give Bob his flowers, he old AF and will soon leave us
Crawford a living legend and he don’t seek cuz he’s too humble and honest to promote the way bobs team does.. respectfully
PBC are fucking awful for keeping guys active, Crawford gets this signature win in July and there’s still no word on this pointless rematch he’s being forced into
He blocked that dudes career like he has done to other people.
I can't wait for Bob to retire. He said Terrence Bud Crawford wasn't Marketable. But due to Politics and Racism 😢 he never wanted to Promote one of the best Pd-4-Pd fighters in the world🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ Make it make sense.🫠🙃🫠🙃
Changed that tune lol.
Bob Arum deserves all the credit in the world for all the progress he has contributed to the sport of boxing.
He made a lot of "progress" financially for Top Rank. He never wanted to make the Manny and Bud. I believe he knew there was a good chance Bud would beat Manny.
They are talking about numbers but Crawford vs Spence was the most rewatched fight in a decade before showtime took it down.
I don’t care how these promoters feel but if Spence vs Crawford didn’t happen boxing wouldn’t have this burst of publicity like it did after the fight. Ppl were talking about that fight for months. I agree we dont need a rematch. Though.
Meanwhile tank vs Garcia did 1.4 million and no one rewatched it or talked about it more than a week afterwards.
Spence vs Crawford had to happen for the validity of the sport even if someone took a loss.
They gonna keep playing these numbers games a throwing circus fights until the core fans stop watching the sport. When the core fans leave boxing is nothing
Crawford lack of marketability is down to the way he was promoted…. Love him or hate him, Eddie Hearn would of had Crawford on every board/TV channel/RUclips reporting outlet until everyone knew his name and placed him in the right fights/cards that would get him recognised.
Bob has a good business but times have changed for how to build fighters.
bob didn't even know how to promote bud
Breakout year? Undefeated Champions & 1st ballot Hall of Famers dont have "Breakout years". Especially when they only fought once all year
The Rematch is not attractive for those who understand boxing without personal feelings. ✌️
Wow on prime? Really? Look at that turning people around or trying to lol he knows how to adjust and adapt doesnt he? People should really learn from him. Hes had to adjust and adapt 4 times over lol.
Lmao you could’ve done a better job promoting the best fighter in the world 🤦🏾♂️
I disagree with bob about bud's marketability. I think bob expects fighters to do his job for him which is sort of ridiculous bc if the fighters have to do all of that then there is no need for people like bob.
Yes Sir Free Fights
He's not wrong. I been said it. It was a one-sided ass whooping, and it will be again. Nobody wants to see that. Even if the rematch is not a one-sided ass whooping, you're not convincing the people that it won't be the same as the first fight. It won't do numbers.
It' seems like you are as a promoter did a shitty job promoting your golden goose. Crawford gave you skills and knockout and you gave him shit! Like it's his fault his numbers are not good
A lot of potential mega-fights he let go to the waste side. He is the worst promoter ever….
Mannn
Id like to see Crawford Whoop on tyzu
Tzsyu camp wants the fight, they said last month March or April was a good start.
Crawford will get whooped badly
@@Kennyporterstoppedmyfight Crawford would Whoop tyzu like he Whooped Spence even worse
@@shawnterrance7204 no way buddy, Tzsyu will go to war. It would be a great matchup.
@@johnny_truth tzyu basic just like Spence
Speaks 💯
As a promoter he never promotes , just says how ppl wont sell.
Don’t matter how good of a fighter you are if nobody cares about it, you won’t make no fucking money and that’s the short &skinny of it
He said the first one wouldn't do numbers and it did. Crawford and spence both made big paydays. The next fight will be a better fight.
The next fight will be more brutal than the first one, Bud is going to make Errol pay.
Only a good promotional company can promote a P4P king. Top rank stopped being a good promotional company in the 90s
You didn’t lose money on Loma? 😂😂😂
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 fight
F Arum he’s a hater against Black fighters. Same. man that said lomo is the best and keep getting be beat
Big fax 💪🏾 only race fans like promoting ducks and guys not taking on the best
@@Violator225it’s most black fighters who don’t fight the best though 😂😂😂. Black fighters are the ones who get the least backing from their own kind than anyone yet are also the ones who ask for the most money. Mexicans back their own all the time, as do Ricans, Filipinos, etc….And they all come to fight anyone anywhere. Loma was from that same fold, and he never demanded ridiculous amounts of money like you fools do. Floyd really did fuck up your ways of thinking. Y’all went from the likes of Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield, etc…to fucking divas of today 😂😂😂.
Sorry Bob we want the Rematch
Said nobody ever.
Nobody would buy the rematch Crawford vs Spencer
I'm happy Bob didn't profit from that fight. He didn't have much respect for Bud.
Bro ?? Let the Boxers Box … don’t just let the arena fillers Box ?? Get smaller arenas ??? Duuuh ?? Boxing shouldn’t line everyone involved pockets only ??? Damn !!!It’s almost like saying don’t let 16-0 Titans play football. Until they are Super Bowl material.
Boxing has to find another outlet to generate income to the promoters outside of the gate and PPV buys
Exactly sports like NFL and NBA don't need PPV because they get a lot sponsorship and advertising money.
The PPV is dying and that's a lot of money leaving boxing
Bob was busy promoting Loma not Crawford fucking racist but blame Bud for not selling but it’s the promoter job to make sure he gets exposure
Dont matter if it will or wont the man desrves his rematch see now its all about the money
You lost a lot of money with Bud because you wouldn't match him up with Spence. 🤷♂️
This is why Saudi Arabia is taking these fight and putting up the money. These American promoters are Greedy. Boxers need to wake up
Coming from a guy who never promoted Crawford in the past anyway
What makes Terrence Crawford not marketable?? maybe because he doesn’t sell himself self short (the things many do for fame) surely there’s a market for trash talk fighters, flamboyant in/out the ring. That was floyd recipe and it worked. Why wasn’t arum saying this when he was 20 fights in with Crawford, 30 fights…no because they build them up just to rinse & repeat champions and throw dirt on them why they couldn’t market them.
Crawford doesn’t move the needle, doesn’t bring in what he wants to be paid…
700k ppv buys against spence. crawford is one of the biggest stars in boxing since he left arum. mayweather did the same. fhe problem arum didnt want bud to be a star. he wanted lomachenko to be the star. but loma kept losing and lost all the belts. bob is bitter and racist.
@@cutthewicked700K buys in what was supposed to be the most anticipated fight between two undefeated American fighters, both p4p and both KO artists. That shit should have been over a million buys, period. So no, Crawford ain’t a star, if he was, he would be doing those type of numbers fighting nobodies. Canelo did a little more than that against Caleb fucking Plant, whom nobody even in his hometown knows who the fuck he is. THAT is star power.
OP is 100% correct. Todays young black fighters demand a ridiculous amount of money and they don’t move the needle at all and more importantly, they avoid all the best fights
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn says you? whos to say it was suppose to be over a million buys. especially in this economy. it did what it did and bud is the subject of every boxing channel. hes been on every mainstream media outlet. what are u talking about? sounds like u just hating tbh. canelo has a big mexican fan base in MEXICO. an entire country plus his american fans. if u want to compare canelo to someone, compare him to floyd mayweather.
Just like ya boy said hes not a PAY PER VIEW ATTRACTION
Bob needs to stop always hating on Crawford also promoters need to stop thinking of the pocket lost. What happen to the love of the sport giving us who live and breath this sport what is deserve. I have respect for Bob abs what he has done but I have to disagree looking to see what’s going happen with prime now let’s go 🎉
He lost millions of dollars..what are you talking about
Big fax he canceled the Crawford vs paqciauo fight he never wanted bud to shine
@@RobdeKlerk-qg6lcIf you think a shrewd Jewish Lawyer like Bob lost money on Bud for years you're delusional.
@l.b.9567 If he made money he wouldn't fire Crawford
@@RobdeKlerk-qg6lcWhen Crawford decided not to resign with Top Rank that's when Bob started slandering his name
Bob I don't think you're being honest but more vengeful than anything because of the breakup! Terrance Crawford Brand didn't match up with his Boxing Talent! However to blame him is completely wrong that Promo Marketing & Networking his brand was outdated! To go along with that to spoon feed a fighter or to keep him on a rope he will never be happy! Let the fighters fight & Managers/ Promtors do their job to build Mega Stadium fights!
This dude said he never saw a tank fight, but somehow, he thinks all his guys beat him 😅😅😂. Respect, but you need to retire.
When was the last time TR put on a mega event?
When’s the last time there was even a mega event? Pac-Floyd? Arum had his part on that.
It STUCKS we gotta watch ESJ lose again. Hes litterally about to rematch into an A$$ whooping. I like EJ, but YOU CANT WIN!!
Bob don’t promote that fight and he wasn’t promoting the first fight, bob is cap smh
Anyone who thinks a Shylock like Bob lost money on Bud for years is delusional
I don't know this man, but something about him rubs my spirit wrong
Give that man his rematch stop playing
Shakur do your due diligence before resigning with Top Rank
Shakur needs to learn how to put a beating on overmatch opponent instead of putting everyone but the fighter in front of him to sleep if he ever wants to move the needle
Only way it does numbers is if its at 154
Probably would have did better if he actually fought Pac-Man before Bud fight !!
Anybody up for watching Spence get outclassed and stopped again, in a ludicrously one sided return?
Bob Arum is just mad that he can’t make money off him anymore. Bob is lying if he was loosing money he wouldn’t have promoted him that long . Why any fighter would have Arum as their promoter is beyond me.
Yeah, cos Inoue does huge numbers. Knock it off Bob & leave Bud alone
Inoue doesn’t demand ridiculous amount of money like Crawford does. Plus Inoue is a big star in Japan
Bob is only saying this bc he doesn’t have any ppv fighters.
what re his excuses for wallin getting stopped on the stool??
I will not ever buy an event on Prime
I disagree with Bob who wouldn't want to see a comeback from errol
Nobody wants to see a rematch