Gotta admit that I loved how Fontaine's was a bit hidden since the nation revolves around lies, deception, and performances. While it can also be creative if you interpret it on how Fontaine is the center of arts in Teyvat
Also I read a analysis that they think they make fontaine ost disconnected from each other (at least not as connected like other region) is because it is the nation of lies and masks too!
I'll be honest... I'm really disappointed in the fontaine ones. Feels so far removed that it doesn't even feel connected. Definitely doesn't give me my fluctuations fix
I understand genshin switched composers during that time, but still I wish they made one single song have a very distinct section. Fontaine really feels unfinished without one. Meanwhile Natlan comes out the gate swinging with fluctuations
I think fontaine was supposed to be more unique. But ofc internet hated how it does not sound like genshin. So natlan, they just decided to make it sound like mondstadt.@@BluecoreG
Yeah this solidified my theory that this is Tevat's theme. It's in EVERY battle theme, even if it's hidden. A very fascinating way to build the world, but as a music nerd I just can't help but smile!
fun fact, Photon of Fluctuation was, supposedly, at some point going to be Genshin's main theme, so this is technically correct, it is Teyvat's theme! Its also why they keep using it as a leitmotif
I didn’t notice Fontaine had them! I was watching the Japanese livestream and when Natlan music started playing, a lot of the Japanese people were commenting “Mondstadt?” Because they heard the leitmotifs 😆
Oh wow, I did NOT expect someone to actually see those comments I made, much less make a video from them lol. I mostly made them for myself since I enjoyed looking for the Photon of Fluctation motifs in each battle theme. I also made a list for the Natlan battle themes (but those are on video leaks, I might post them when the actual OST releases on YT though.) Glad they helped out! Edit: Bonus fun fact, in Rondeau des fleurs et des rapières, the Narzissenkreuz Ordo leitmotif plays at 1:35-1:56 in the official track. Super cool detail especially since it's the battle theme that was featured in the Fontaine Symphony video, way before the Narzissenkreuz Ordo was explorable in game.
Some people can't hear them, and others have a very strict idea of what properly resembles a leitmotif. Had someone argue with me that the very first track in this video was not using Photon at all.
The letmotif appearing in "God Devouring Mania" despite not being able to react with Dendro: 👁👄👁 (Tbf it was maybe meant to be a normal-ish battle theme at one point)
something I havent heard anyone talk about is that the main theme of sumeru was actually heard way back when we first heard music in windblume, I think its called "An Interesting Labour"? it uses a quicker, upbeat version of the Sumeru theme, or rather, the sumeru theme uses a slower, grander version of its melody since it was released first? I wonder if this was from earlier in development? maybe they planned on the mond festival we got to be ludi harpastum like what was shown in the manga and there was going to be some link with collei? idk. it is always interesting to hear this piece after getting sumeru tho.
Check out teyvat chapter storyline, Mondstadt is the only nation not given a chapter, instead being considered the prologue. And not to get into leaks but there is definitely an unfinished story to be told.
im pretty sure the photon leitmotif appears in virelai des marees too, right before when the horns play the main melody at ~2:00, on the piano. good video😊😊
im not day 1 player. but after looking everyone's talking about this leitmotifs, i understand that these leitmotifs contain some notable melody from monstadt's battle theme. is that the correct definition of leitmotifs here?
Bruh my mind is blown, wtf ?? I always thought it seemed familiar but i never knew there was this kind of stuff in music. Looking forward to catching it while fighting in fontaine fr fr
A tune (in music) or imagery (in film) that comes up again and again as a persistent theme throughout the whole production Think….. if the whole game of Genshin was Wolvendom forest, and throughout the forest there are woofhook berries hidden to tie everything together and remind you of where you are. The leitmotif are the berries.
Admittedly, I'm still not fully convinced of the letmotifs in Lamentation et Triomphe, but I am more convinced than before so thats a plus Guess it doesn't sound close enough. The rhythm is there, though. A "Letmotif" is probably much wider in definition than I think... Also, finally, someone points out the motifs in "Rondeau des fleurs et des rapieres"
I might be misreading it because I'm pretty bad at picking out the leitmotif but isn't it also in the drums at the start of Anthem of the Savannah? At 2:48 the louder drums play the rhythm, though they leave off the last of the 6 notes.
5:10 this also sounds like Secret or Trials of Mana like damn. People may have said before how Visions of Mana looks a bit like Genshin. But that's fair, considering I'm pretty sure Genshin was HEAVILY inspired by the Mana series. It's so obvious. And I love it. So it's perfectly understandable that a new Mana game would look like Genshin in many ways. I have to say though, Genshin does just look better. As did Trials, honestly. I preferred the art style a lot.
Gotta admit that I loved how Fontaine's was a bit hidden since the nation revolves around lies, deception, and performances. While it can also be creative if you interpret it on how Fontaine is the center of arts in Teyvat
Also I read a analysis that they think they make fontaine ost disconnected from each other (at least not as connected like other region) is because it is the nation of lies and masks too!
wait, that is such cool way to look at fontaine, never realized that, thanks
fontaine was the least obvious while most other region battle ost have this similar part
I'll be honest... I'm really disappointed in the fontaine ones. Feels so far removed that it doesn't even feel connected. Definitely doesn't give me my fluctuations fix
I understand genshin switched composers during that time, but still I wish they made one single song have a very distinct section. Fontaine really feels unfinished without one.
Meanwhile Natlan comes out the gate swinging with fluctuations
I think fontaine was supposed to be more unique. But ofc internet hated how it does not sound like genshin. So natlan, they just decided to make it sound like mondstadt.@@BluecoreG
@@Zliarx Rondeau des fleurs et des rapieres Is a banger. If this is what they mean by unique then it is worth the photon loss
@@BluecoreG very contradicting comment prior to your 7 day old comment.
Yeah this solidified my theory that this is Tevat's theme. It's in EVERY battle theme, even if it's hidden. A very fascinating way to build the world, but as a music nerd I just can't help but smile!
fun fact, Photon of Fluctuation was, supposedly, at some point going to be Genshin's main theme, so this is technically correct, it is Teyvat's theme!
Its also why they keep using it as a leitmotif
fontaine really was creative with it
Finally, someone other than me that recognizes this little detail
Musicians rise up
You missed one
at 5:35 when the music fades out, the Photon of Fluctuation motif plays on the horns and then on the strings, but REAL slow
wow i didnt notice that at all
I didn’t notice Fontaine had them! I was watching the Japanese livestream and when Natlan music started playing, a lot of the Japanese people were commenting “Mondstadt?” Because they heard the leitmotifs 😆
Oh wow, I did NOT expect someone to actually see those comments I made, much less make a video from them lol. I mostly made them for myself since I enjoyed looking for the Photon of Fluctation motifs in each battle theme. I also made a list for the Natlan battle themes (but those are on video leaks, I might post them when the actual OST releases on YT though.) Glad they helped out!
Edit: Bonus fun fact, in Rondeau des fleurs et des rapières, the Narzissenkreuz Ordo leitmotif plays at 1:35-1:56 in the official track. Super cool detail especially since it's the battle theme that was featured in the Fontaine Symphony video, way before the Narzissenkreuz Ordo was explorable in game.
THE GOAT IS HERE 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@justtpieeKudos my friend!
Nice work.
Though I'm confused that people are saying they can't find the leitmotif in fontaine's tracks. They're obvious to me.
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Some people can't hear them, and others have a very strict idea of what properly resembles a leitmotif. Had someone argue with me that the very first track in this video was not using Photon at all.
this was what I was looking for after listening to the natlan concert just released. thanks haha
np! btw do you felt bored while watching the video? like at some point you want to click away?
@@justtpieeNah the tracks are too much of a banger to click away ngl
The Natlan one at 5:38 is like crack to me
The Photon of Fluactuation is an embodiment Anemo element as well as it can combine to different elements like Electro, Hydro, Pyro and Cryo
The letmotif appearing in "God Devouring Mania" despite not being able to react with Dendro: 👁👄👁
(Tbf it was maybe meant to be a normal-ish battle theme at one point)
Gallant challenge?
something I havent heard anyone talk about is that the main theme of sumeru was actually heard way back when we first heard music in windblume, I think its called "An Interesting Labour"? it uses a quicker, upbeat version of the Sumeru theme, or rather, the sumeru theme uses a slower, grander version of its melody since it was released first?
I wonder if this was from earlier in development? maybe they planned on the mond festival we got to be ludi harpastum like what was shown in the manga and there was going to be some link with collei? idk. it is always interesting to hear this piece after getting sumeru tho.
photon of fluctuation is one bone chilling leitmotif for me idk why i love it so much
I believe this motif represents Aether/Lumine.
Check out teyvat chapter storyline, Mondstadt is the only nation not given a chapter, instead being considered the prologue. And not to get into leaks but there is definitely an unfinished story to be told.
@@BluecoreGdefinitely
letmotifs in Natlan Battle theme ||| sounds like Eula's demo to me
im pretty sure the photon leitmotif appears in virelai des marees too, right before when the horns play the main melody at ~2:00, on the piano. good video😊😊
im not day 1 player. but after looking everyone's talking about this leitmotifs, i understand that these leitmotifs contain some notable melody from monstadt's battle theme. is that the correct definition of leitmotifs here?
Basically yes
Thank you for putting this all together, I've always loved this detail
The Photon of Fluctuation letmotif (the guitar ones) in Natlan Battle Theme III are giving me strong "the lick" vibes
3:16 cleared one
5:50 and this one is sick!
this is the video i was looking for
Bro discovered fire.
ty!
Bruh my mind is blown, wtf ?? I always thought it seemed familiar but i never knew there was this kind of stuff in music. Looking forward to catching it while fighting in fontaine fr fr
5:39 smooth as yeahhh
Cool video! Would be very nice if you could put the instrument that's playing the leitmotif on the screen just like what you did on leitmotif 7.
it took me way too much time so i just quit and go to the other part
but sure, noted.
bit disappointed it's not as obvious in fontaine, but they're still pretty great
first of all, you are the goat for making this.
second of all, what are the actual notes in this motif? (like, piano note order or something idk)
thank you so much! tbh i did not dig down to the point that i could point out the actual notes of the motifs (or i just too lazy to do so)
Can someone explain leitmotif in razor language ?
A tune (in music) or imagery (in film) that comes up again and again as a persistent theme throughout the whole production
Think….. if the whole game of Genshin was Wolvendom forest, and throughout the forest there are woofhook berries hidden to tie everything together and remind you of where you are. The leitmotif are the berries.
same lady (tune) dressed in different outfits all depending on the moment, place or situation.
😂😂😂 @@ScrubLordKyle
Similar… tune… music, different… compositions
short recognizable melody appearing in different music
Thanks for this video. I've always wondered why Fontaine didn't have Photon of Fluctuation, but I just can't figure it out 🥹 Too short
np!
It's so hard to me to find the Photon of Fluctuation in Rondeau des Fleurs et Rapieres
W video
the goat is here!!!
Ahh yes my favorite way to spell afton photon
Admittedly, I'm still not fully convinced of the letmotifs in Lamentation et Triomphe, but I am more convinced than before so thats a plus
Guess it doesn't sound close enough. The rhythm is there, though. A "Letmotif" is probably much wider in definition than I think...
Also, finally, someone points out the motifs in "Rondeau des fleurs et des rapieres"
can someone explain what letmotifs mean for these songs i dont quite understand?
EDIT: Nevermind i figured it out lol 😭😂
I might be misreading it because I'm pretty bad at picking out the leitmotif but isn't it also in the drums at the start of Anthem of the Savannah? At 2:48 the louder drums play the rhythm, though they leave off the last of the 6 notes.
I'm too stupid to understand. Can a kind soul please explain? I would love to hear a simplified motif because I don't have the ear to pick it out.
It would be more noticeable with scores on screen
I agree. But with my current editing skill that seems impossible
I don't get it, wasn't this always the case for every regions.
Try to find matches and motives in the simulanka bgm
Whats the lemotife
2:18 bro this sounds so much like Secret of Mana I can't even
5:10 this also sounds like Secret or Trials of Mana like damn.
People may have said before how Visions of Mana looks a bit like Genshin. But that's fair, considering I'm pretty sure Genshin was HEAVILY inspired by the Mana series. It's so obvious. And I love it. So it's perfectly understandable that a new Mana game would look like Genshin in many ways.
I have to say though, Genshin does just look better. As did Trials, honestly. I preferred the art style a lot.
bro let the whole initial part of natlan play instead of skipping 🫡🫡🫡🫡